**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 02:59:57 2010 Mar 26 03:00:43 likely a good idea Mar 26 03:00:56 dtzWill, what's the git url for those repos for push btw? Mar 26 03:02:36 gaffo_home: it's listed on the gitweb interface (for future reference, jic someone isn't here, etc), but if your url now is git://host/path/repo.git, it's now git@host:path/repo.git Mar 26 03:02:56 kk, thanks Mar 26 03:06:08 gaffo_home: np, ty for contributing :) Mar 26 03:07:06 only cause I have to to compile :) the other times I've tried to contribute palm has made it obsolete a day or so later Mar 26 04:00:29 AnOutsider: Save/Restore 0.3.1 in the feeds Mar 26 04:00:35 AnOutsider: now with application names **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:06:14 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:09:37 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 26 13:12:14 2010 Mar 26 13:25:07 anyone get a "Could not determine values for POLL* constants" when trying to make the WIDK and glib-2.0? Mar 26 13:25:29 heh my palm lether case broke Mar 26 13:31:57 morning Mar 26 13:32:15 morning Mar 26 13:46:23 bah, it was just that I didn't have the doctor extracted :( Mar 26 13:48:11 I am trying to get ssh working using the preware installer and not have having success. Is there a web page to walks through it? I gen the key and move it to the linux machine but can't log in from the linux machine Mar 26 13:48:46 djk1: are you logging in as root on port 22 over wifi? Mar 26 13:49:16 djk1: the openssh homepage link in Preware has instructions Mar 26 13:49:17 yes Mar 26 13:49:55 but it's just standard openssh usage. root public key in /home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys with the correct permissions. hundreds of guides on the net on how to do it. Mar 26 13:50:18 I have tried to follow the http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH Mar 26 13:51:13 and you did http://unixwiz.net/techtips/putty-openssh.html ? Mar 26 13:51:38 oh, your client is linux too? Mar 26 13:51:58 yes I was trying it on an ubuntu box Mar 26 13:52:18 heh, that page assumes that linux folks already know how to drive ssh Mar 26 13:52:25 now on a windows box and have putty already there Mar 26 13:52:27 so it only has instructions for windows Mar 26 13:53:48 * rwhitby bbt Mar 26 14:02:46 i think that 800Mhz kernel patch borked usb drive Mar 26 14:02:48 http://wklej.org/id/304273/ Mar 26 14:02:52 it's not showing up Mar 26 14:11:46 en0x: not for me. works fine here Mar 26 14:15:29 You know what would be really good? If people actually employed the rigour of testing with and without for four times and proving causality before saying "I think this patch breaks something" :-) Mar 26 14:16:31 yeah but that'd require them to do work and not you, and that's just silly. Mar 26 14:16:35 why would I want to do work Mar 26 14:19:36 gaffo_home: yeah, that's why I simply ignore "bug reports" unless they have that rigour attached, or unless 10 different people are reporting the same thing. Anything that doesn't meet either of those criteria is always user error. Mar 26 14:21:32 what I want to know is if 800mhz was some physical limit that was tested out, or if it was just a number they deemed safe and stopped there Mar 26 14:21:50 cause 800mhz overclock works so well, I almost want to see what 900, or even 1ghz would be like >.> Mar 26 14:22:38 it's already faster than the Nexus One in benchmarks. it's awesome :D Mar 26 14:23:22 :> Mar 26 14:23:25 VincentLaw: 800 is because the kernel patch that came from other 3430 projects on the internet did 720 and 800 as OPP6 and OPP7. Mar 26 14:24:30 nothing related to overclocking the Pre is actually new - it's all based on stuff that's been done elsewhere. Mar 26 14:25:45 ahhh Mar 26 14:26:20 So I assume there's no OPP8 (whatever that is?) at like, 880 or something? :p Mar 26 14:27:06 nope, but if you know the right combinations of the multiple frequencies and voltages in a complex SoC like the 3430, then you can change OPP6 and OPP7 to whatever freq you want. Mar 26 14:27:17 But good luck working out what those voltages should be. Mar 26 14:27:42 meh, not that daring. Mar 26 14:27:57 the current patches uses the values from a later chip in OMAP family, and just applies those values to the 3430. Mar 26 14:28:11 yeah, I gathered that Mar 26 14:28:35 naturally TI needs to make a 1GHZ OMAP chip to use :p Mar 26 14:29:00 omap4 Mar 26 14:29:29 rwhitby, my compile borked over night, I'm re-running it. The the only thing that has failed so far is curl Mar 26 14:29:49 somthing about sizeof. I'm going to go back and try that once I get through the rest of the compiles. Mar 26 14:43:21 lol i just read an artictle that it states that "google is paying phone manufuctures to use android" Mar 26 14:43:24 lol Mar 26 14:43:41 actually It hought it said operators Mar 26 14:44:01 and giving them a cut of search revenue earned from devices on their networks Mar 26 14:44:17 AnOutsider: Save/Restore 0.3.3 is out Mar 26 14:44:25 and if true, it's a smart business move. They lose very little and gain a huge jump in marketshare (which it has been lately) Mar 26 14:44:36 * AnOutsider boots up preware Mar 26 14:45:04 http://paidcontent.org/article/419-androids-secret-sauce-googles-little-known-advertising-rev-share-deals-/ Mar 26 14:45:25 AnOutsider: The next thing needed is to read the list and listApps at startup, and filter then to display a cut-down list for saving (based on matches to installed apps) and restoring (based on saved data, which I need to return in the list array) Mar 26 14:45:57 @en0x: Google is sharing advertising revenues with carriers that use Android, according to multiple sources who are familiar with the deals. In some cases, sources said, Google is also cutting deals with the handset makers Mar 26 14:46:11 so it's both, and it still stands to be a good business move Mar 26 14:46:22 I don't personally like the android OS though. way too bland Mar 26 14:46:36 too much is going on in it Mar 26 14:46:46 like the widgets on your screen etc Mar 26 14:46:55 @rwhitby: shouldn't be a problem, does preware store that info in a JSON object or a database? Mar 26 14:46:59 never really checked the code Mar 26 14:47:22 @en0x: I don't mind the widgets, especially when done tastefully (and they're in your control) Mar 26 14:47:30 AnOutsider: I added a listApps method which returns it for you. See the new 'installed' scene. Mar 26 14:47:34 the base OS is just so bland, utilitarian and uninspired though Mar 26 14:47:39 k Mar 26 14:48:26 AnOutsider: just need to move the requesting of those lists to the top-level, so that we can put the right numbers against each of the rows in the main scene, and have pre-filtered lists for save and restore Mar 26 14:49:18 anyone working on that currently? Mar 26 14:51:35 AnOutsider: not yet, and I'm about to hit the sack. Mar 26 14:51:37 ah cool, readable app names Mar 26 14:52:27 AnOutsider: assume that you will get another field in the return JSON objects for the list service method which says whether there is any saved data for that app. Mar 26 14:52:37 (I'll implement that tomorrow somehow) Mar 26 14:52:51 k Mar 26 14:53:19 If we can get numbers working on the main screen, like in Preware, that will be awesome. Mar 26 14:53:55 btw, it looks like the numbers are there, but not visible unless tapped. CSS issue im guessing Mar 26 14:54:44 AnOutsider: BTW, working on Save/Restore has already flushed out and solved a number of issues in advance of packaging a C version of ipkgservice in the same package as Preware Mar 26 14:55:00 it's a great guinea pig app Mar 26 14:55:15 that's actually useful at the same time Mar 26 14:56:06 ok, I'm out. Mar 26 14:56:09 * rwhitby bbt - night all Mar 26 14:56:10 dangit Mar 26 14:56:19 was just about to ask a question, night Mar 26 14:56:27 heh Mar 26 14:56:28 gaffo_home: shoot Mar 26 14:56:42 okay, the first thing that fials on the move of SDL is that evas Mar 26 14:56:56 because the palm SDL isn't listed in package_config Mar 26 14:57:15 I can just hard code the SDL_CFLAGS into the evas makefile Mar 26 14:57:33 and the same for SDL_LIBS Mar 26 14:57:47 does that make sense? Mar 26 14:57:50 or alternatively install the .pc file for libSDL from the source Mar 26 14:58:25 hrm. well, palm is providing the SDL source Mar 26 14:58:41 so I guess I should put sdl back into the build. Mar 26 14:58:59 they are providing the headers and libs, but we can still build the source and install the pkgconfig file from there. Mar 26 14:59:27 well, their OSS'd version provides it all. I was just trying to save time by not building it. Mar 26 14:59:33 I'll just revert that part. Mar 26 14:59:35 thanks Mar 26 14:59:44 no worries. ciao. Mar 26 16:04:06 rwhitby: when you arise, the code is committed and ready for you to add a flag to packages indicating if they've been saved or not Mar 26 16:04:16 left comments too so you can see what I moved, removed and added Mar 26 17:21:47 I had to restart my phone with webosdoctor and now it will not let me put preware back on, it says the system manager package isn't installed. but i follow the exact directions on preware.org to install it Mar 26 17:25:06 Guest: do you mean the package manager service? Mar 26 18:01:34 networks suck Mar 26 18:01:52 sure they do.... Mar 26 18:04:59 good afternoon guys, I installed the 600mhz patch (from preware) a while back, but since then it has obviously been removed. How can i remove that patch now? Mar 26 18:05:19 its not in /var/home/root btw Mar 26 18:06:39 * nt4cats is experiencing a serious sushi-induced coma right now Mar 26 18:07:28 any thoughts? Mar 26 18:07:54 are there any information how to build a java service? Mar 26 18:07:56 no1lefty: I think sushi is good Mar 26 18:08:14 noaXess: there are examples on www.webos-internals.org Mar 26 18:08:16 lol Mar 26 18:08:38 noaXess: .... and you can download the source for several of the services available in preware ... Mar 26 18:08:42 nt4cats: and where exactly ? :) Mar 26 18:08:47 aha Mar 26 18:08:48 good afternoon guys, I installed the 600mhz patch (from preware) a while back, but since then it has obviously been removed. How can i remove that patch now? Mar 26 18:10:00 noaXess: I went to http://www.webos-internals.org/ ... typed "java service" in the Google search box. The first link that came up was http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Java_Services Mar 26 18:10:32 nt4cats: ;).. thanks Mar 26 18:10:48 no1lefty: does it show up in your installed patches list in preware now? Mar 26 18:11:11 no1lefty: I don't know anything about that specific patch, so I should probably be quiet. Mar 26 18:11:23 doctor will kill it Mar 26 18:11:27 xD Mar 26 18:19:24 nt4cats: hm.. on the Java_services wiki page, i don't really find example code... are there other places? Mar 26 18:19:49 git.webos-internals.org is all the repos Mar 26 18:20:29 but c services > java services Mar 26 18:26:22 hi Mar 26 18:26:35 'lo karotte Mar 26 18:26:52 i tried to create my first app with the aeres web-IDE Mar 26 18:27:04 and u failed? Mar 26 18:27:05 :) Mar 26 18:27:10 hi nt4cats Mar 26 18:27:19 ahm... yes and no Mar 26 18:27:42 i wanted to create a easy calculator Mar 26 18:28:23 but i dont how can i get the string from the texflied Mar 26 18:28:33 i kmo Mar 26 18:28:38 upps Mar 26 18:29:09 i know that in java its: texfield.getText(); but by palm? Mar 26 18:29:50 karotte_exee: I'm not saying that people here can't / won't help you, but the best place for this sort of question is #webos, not #webos-internals Mar 26 18:30:13 but i like this channel xD Mar 26 18:30:19 can't youhelp me? Mar 26 18:30:35 karotte_exee: I don't know the answer to your question myself, no. Mar 26 18:30:48 hm... :( Mar 26 18:30:56 karotte_exee: a lot of people here have never/barely touched mojo stuff :) Mar 26 18:31:10 kk Mar 26 18:31:12 <--- never Mar 26 18:31:23 Sooo...anyone free and willing to help me get FreeTether working? Mar 26 18:31:25 same i havent either Mar 26 18:31:38 <--- hacks on his Pre as a portable linux device Mar 26 18:31:49 lol nice Mar 26 18:32:17 Vista doesn't seem to like the usbnet driver...and yeah, I know Vista sucks, but it's what I've got at the moment. Mar 26 18:34:18 ahm i think "mobile hotspot is the better way" Mar 26 18:34:41 mytether sucks Mar 26 18:35:41 I thought 1.4 broke mobile hotspot for Sprint users? Mar 26 18:35:48 this.controller.get('idoftextwidget').mojo.value()? Mar 26 18:35:58 And it required FreeTether to work anyway? Mar 26 18:36:30 im by o 2 ;o Mar 26 18:37:15 oh, its getValue() Mar 26 18:37:43 thx Mar 26 18:37:58 https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1932&Itemid=310 Mar 26 18:38:02 the methods section at the end Mar 26 18:38:09 is element.mojo.method() Mar 26 18:39:38 then i have to write: "textfield.getValue()"? Mar 26 18:40:45 ahm... why cant you try to tether over wifi oder bluetooth? Mar 26 18:40:52 no Mar 26 18:41:08 this.element.get('id-of-text-field').mojo.getValue(); Mar 26 18:41:52 omg! Mar 26 18:43:37 then ahm... "variable = this.element.get('tf1').mojo.getValue();"??? Mar 26 18:44:01 yeah Mar 26 18:44:09 wait Mar 26 18:44:10 no Mar 26 18:44:17 why did i type this.element? Mar 26 18:44:20 its this.controller.get Mar 26 18:44:31 like i typed the first time :) Mar 26 18:46:06 kk Mar 26 18:46:08 thx Mar 26 18:46:12 np Mar 26 18:46:31 that was an easy question Mar 26 18:47:16 ahm Mar 26 18:47:57 and what is when i want to change the value in the textfiel? like textfield.setText();??? Mar 26 18:48:10 Sooo.... I broke my device stage Mar 26 18:48:36 karotte_exee: click the link i posted, and look at the bottom of the page Mar 26 18:49:46 im so glad nt4cats client tells me when it was built Mar 26 18:49:57 that is useful information Mar 26 18:50:12 oilsworkn: I can't see my own login message Mar 26 18:50:31 has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4030, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-02-25 23:12:54 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] Mar 26 18:50:46 lol Mar 26 18:51:01 Its more interesting than any crap you spout off oil Mar 26 18:51:02 :p Mar 26 18:51:15 well, you might want to react differently if my client was built at 23:12:56 versus 23:12:54, ya know Mar 26 18:51:19 if i have control over my quit message Mar 26 18:51:24 i usually just bang on the keyboard Mar 26 18:51:36 like this Mar 26 18:52:17 I couldn't wait for him to leave -- finally! Mar 26 18:52:25 I KNOW! Mar 26 18:53:09 wb guys :) Mar 26 18:55:05 bb Mar 26 18:55:21 handbrake makes transmogrifying videos for playing on the Pre quite easy Mar 26 18:55:28 true Mar 26 18:55:38 but its still a pain to actually transfer the files Mar 26 18:55:57 easier than an iphone :P Mar 26 18:56:05 not really Mar 26 18:56:11 hmmmm, see a need, fill a need. Mar 26 18:56:14 iPhone: plug in it syncs Mar 26 18:56:15 unless you LIKE itunes (pukes at the tought) Mar 26 18:56:17 thought* Mar 26 18:56:42 I use it on the mini, but use WMP on windows Mar 26 18:56:45 i like itunes Mar 26 18:56:49 i miss using my pre with it Mar 26 18:57:03 i have an ipod touch that i dont even use because i fucking DESPISE itunes and i dont run windows normally Mar 26 18:57:29 I'm still of the opinion that the pre needs a proper desktop application in order to be appealing to normal people/ people coming from iphones Mar 26 18:57:31 i need to investigate alternatives now that palm has given up compatibility Mar 26 18:57:39 i would love palm desktop for pre Mar 26 18:57:52 I have semi gotten a win 7 device stage working Mar 26 18:58:05 trying to play with making a wmp sync plugin for it Mar 26 18:58:06 if you make such a program please dont make it look like itunes or i will be forced to kill you Mar 26 18:58:49 I know it isn't free, but doen't DVDJon's product interact with the Pre like iTunes does for the iPhone? Mar 26 18:59:23 So far, I can detect a pre plugged it, Win 7 shows the fancy icon for the pre (although dev mode breaks it), and it then tried to fire off a command to both throw the pre into usb mode and sync wmp with it, then unmounts the pre Mar 26 18:59:34 and doubletwist is free iirc Mar 26 19:00:10 I stand corrected. DoubleTwist appears to be free Mar 26 19:01:05 Stupid Dev mode triggers two more Hardware ID's that trip windows out Mar 26 19:02:12 dev mode isn't stupid :( Mar 26 19:02:23 It is in this case Mar 26 19:02:38 why would the extra hardware ID's break it ? Mar 26 19:02:41 I'm trying to stay within the normal phone abilities Mar 26 19:03:19 its causing windows to to complain that there are extras, but if I put them in, then it complains that they are not there for normal phones Mar 26 19:03:31 what's the alternate to the konami cokde to show the developer mode icon? webos20090612 Mar 26 19:03:32 ? Mar 26 19:03:33 which Is why I'm trying to switch to modelID's Mar 26 19:03:57 which don't care about the hardware ID's, but each sku has to have a different model id Mar 26 19:05:01 webos20090606 Mar 26 19:05:33 halfhalo: i lost you in this whole conversation .. sorry Mar 26 19:05:48 lol Mar 26 19:05:55 Its complicated, I know Mar 26 19:06:14 i don't understand why windows would give a crap about the interfaces Mar 26 19:06:38 Basically, the way I'm doing it now using hardwareID's are based off of the interface, while modelID's only care about the physical device Mar 26 19:07:14 and dev mode is adding both new hardwareID's plus the Novacom Modules to the Device container (AKA the Pre to the computer) Mar 26 19:07:36 In dev mode, the device stage fails and it defaults back to a generic "PMP" Mar 26 19:10:01 oh bull Mar 26 19:10:23 I forgot to change & to & Mar 26 19:10:32 and I just closed my guid window.... Mar 26 19:11:05 windows is stupid Mar 26 19:12:02 are you talking about the USB interface ? Mar 26 19:12:25 i guess i don't know how windows does it's USB stuff, so i am useless as it is Mar 26 19:14:29 hi Mar 26 19:14:41 ahm... i have a little question Mar 26 19:15:04 mabyyou know, the unreal engine 3 wasported to webos Mar 26 19:15:17 and i saw this nice demo on youtube Mar 26 19:15:46 1. existing a ipk for this unreal game? Mar 26 19:16:30 2. would be the unreal engine althoug avaliable for the pré? or is it to weak? Mar 26 19:32:08 cant wait for me to leave? wtf? Mar 26 19:32:19 * oil hates nt4cats and halfhalo now Mar 26 19:32:41 oil: I didn't say that, my IRC client did Mar 26 19:32:57 !!!!? Mar 26 19:33:06 lol Mar 26 19:34:07 rwhitby: messagin backup _work_ in saverestore? Mar 26 19:35:57 zsoc_wirc, test it :) Mar 26 19:36:11 Is there a way to open a sqlite db from the command line? Mar 26 19:36:20 sqlite filename.db? Mar 26 19:36:27 or something like that Mar 26 19:37:22 Sloloem: define 'open'? Mar 26 19:37:26 you can dump :p Mar 26 19:37:51 oil: well I just read the script. it backsup (sort of) but doesn't restore, heh Mar 26 19:38:07 Sloloem: 'sqlite3 file.db3' Mar 26 19:40:56 Yup, that's the one I was looking for Mar 26 19:41:04 Thanks Mar 26 19:43:13 Sloloem: whatcha playing with Mar 26 19:43:41 rwhitby: good work btw, the messaging app save is pretty awesome. we just need a good way to restore now :) Mar 26 19:47:07 zsoc_wirc, I just wanted to see what was in there and I couldn't read the binary format. I'm trying to find a way to kill off this phantom application that was keeping me from doing anything in the app catalog. Mar 26 19:48:09 that sounds weird to me .. Mar 26 19:48:14 Is there a way I can force applications reinstalled from the profile after a partial erase? Mar 26 19:48:26 phantom app would be a filesystem/ipkg thing .. not necessarily a database thing Mar 26 19:49:33 bpadalino|work, the app didn't actually exist, and it wasn't reported by anything I could find from calling services from the prompt. It only appeared in the app catalog when I went to try to update or install anything new Mar 26 19:50:02 sounds weird Mar 26 19:51:30 bpadalino|work, it was pretty lame. Handful of people on the forums had the same issue. But I tried to do a partial erase when I was poking the issue...now I want my apps back. Mar 26 19:52:24 heh Mar 26 19:52:35 Also, despite reading the installHistory.db in vi implied there was a lot in there, selecting * in sqlite only showed one entry with no information and an id of -1 Mar 26 19:53:01 fancy Mar 26 20:01:53 oil: when luna crashes I still have to manually restart the service Mar 26 20:02:06 eh? Mar 26 20:10:43 oil: it keeps my connection. it doesn't disconnect me Mar 26 20:10:51 wircd? Mar 26 20:13:03 * oil goes back to work Mar 26 20:26:15 Can someone direct me to the Mar 26 20:26:56 Proper channel for discussion on the new overclock patch Mar 26 20:32:42 there's a channel? Mar 26 20:32:50 I'd say this is pretty much it Mar 26 20:33:41 Well in that case it was a success so far Mar 26 20:34:07 Phone just got real fast Mar 26 20:37:17 Has any one reported batt charging issues after the oc 800 mhz patch Mar 26 20:40:25 are you going to? Mar 26 20:41:06 after doctoring my phone, how can i get SFTP back to work? Mar 26 20:43:02 Not sure if its a real prob or just a loose plug Mar 26 20:44:32 Reinstall the patch with novacom Mar 26 20:44:48 graak, can't get evas to compile under the WIDK, missing -lpng12 Mar 26 20:45:27 just make stage for libpng Mar 26 20:45:35 is the under packages Mar 26 20:45:54 what's evas? Mar 26 20:46:08 MetaView, I have, and it's in /srv/preware/cross-compile/staging/armv7/usr/lib/libpng.so Mar 26 20:46:17 it's some enlightment core library Mar 26 20:46:19 doctoring the phone seems to clear my home dir on the pre? Mar 26 20:46:55 gaffo_home: then your setup might not correct for the linkage stage? Mar 26 20:47:24 you should have a link from libpng12.so to libpng.so Mar 26 20:47:33 or like this, I have a look, wait Mar 26 20:48:46 libpng12.so libpng12.so.0 libpng12.so.0.42.0 libpng.so libpng.so.3 libpng.so.3.42.0 Mar 26 20:48:59 is what I have in /srv/preware/cross-compile/staging/armv7/usr/lib Mar 26 20:49:08 looks good Mar 26 20:49:24 you could check the pathes which gcc is looking for libs Mar 26 20:50:10 I tried but the makefile is silent Mar 26 20:50:24 I'm under /srv/preware/cross-compile/packages/evas/build/src/src/modules/loaders/png Mar 26 20:50:35 [SB2 mapping-armv7 armv7] widk@widk png $ make Mar 26 20:50:35 CCLD module.la Mar 26 20:50:48 why are there two different libpng's in staging? Mar 26 20:51:12 iono, one is libpng12 and one is libpng Mar 26 20:51:18 jacques: cause 2 are needed Mar 26 20:51:44 ok Mar 26 20:52:49 -lpng12 -lz -L/usr/local/lib Mar 26 20:53:00 it's a generated makefile so it's very fun to look at Mar 26 20:53:21 generated code usually is Mar 26 20:53:22 hm, the path makes no sense :) Mar 26 20:53:28 but the LDFLAGS seem right, -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib Mar 26 20:54:13 is there any way to get the make to actually spit out the command it's running? Mar 26 20:54:43 gaffo_home: add some of the -print- options to the LDFLAGS Mar 26 20:55:04 -print-multi-lib Mar 26 20:55:16 on some packages you can disable shave in the configure step Mar 26 20:55:17 -print-search-dirs Mar 26 20:55:53 so this is just the WIDK from source except that I upgraded the doctor to 1.4 Mar 26 20:56:12 which I use too Mar 26 20:56:56 yeah I noticed your libpng.so.3.42.0 is newer Mar 26 20:57:21 you probably should have mentioned that first Mar 26 20:57:32 :) Mar 26 20:57:34 sorry Mar 26 20:59:04 I wish the e builds cached - they all seem to checkout the code on each unpack, and it's a pain right now as I'm behind a firewall Mar 26 20:59:15 otherwise I whould look into this more now Mar 26 21:00:23 I wished they'd cache after the autoconf step Mar 26 21:00:30 that takes like 9 minutes Mar 26 21:02:41 MetaView, you have the 1.4 doctor working under widk? Mar 26 21:03:24 btw, those -print things did nothing when I added them to LDFLAGS Mar 26 21:05:49 gaffo_home: I added -print-search-dirs to my CFLAGS and got a lot of dirs printed during make Mar 26 21:05:59 aah, I'll try that Mar 26 21:06:19 depends if LDFLAGS is used at all Mar 26 21:07:01 My private key on my Pre is gone, when I create a new private key, I need a new public key too, right? Mar 26 21:07:13 MetaView, they're a pair, yes Mar 26 21:13:05 well shave apparently is not relevant here Mar 26 21:14:49 here's what I get with those prints on cflags Mar 26 21:14:49 http://webos.pastebin.com/g2A7Q6vx Mar 26 21:14:55 jacques, what's shave? Mar 26 21:15:28 gaffo_home: it's a build-time feature of some packages which makes the build "pretty" and can be disabled in configure Mar 26 21:15:44 aah Mar 26 21:17:15 I'm building the evas deps now so I can see if I get same error Mar 26 21:18:28 kk Mar 26 21:22:35 evas is building now Mar 26 21:22:38 kk Mar 26 21:22:43 you using 1.3.5 or 1.4? Mar 26 21:24:02 I have question involving manually setting the cpu clock... Mar 26 21:24:15 I have been experimenting with manually setting the clock via /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed Mar 26 21:25:11 gaffo_home: I am using the WIDK as checked out a few minutes ago Mar 26 21:25:18 gaffo_home: 1.3.5 Mar 26 21:25:28 kk, master is still on 1.3.5, there's a branch for doctor_14 Mar 26 21:25:33 that's what I'm trying to get to work Mar 26 21:25:34 on the surface this works very well... has anyone run into issues (other than crashing), like time messing up? Mar 26 21:25:39 yeah I noticed two new branches Mar 26 21:25:40 ffff Mar 26 21:25:42 so I can merge it into master Mar 26 21:25:46 Stupid usb gadget site is down Mar 26 21:26:25 chlore: depending on what you're setting it to, you may be doing the exact same thing lunasysmgr does Mar 26 21:27:06 gaffo_home: so you are using the doctor_14 branch? no other changes to the WIDK? Mar 26 21:27:07 the other branch is to get the PDL*.h files in there from the PDK so that we can build against the native methods like PDL_GetCurrentPath Mar 26 21:27:21 I'm using the other one Mar 26 21:27:29 it appears almost instant... as I run a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep Bogo' directly after it Mar 26 21:27:37 OK, sorry for earlier then - I thought you had made a totally local mod to the WIDK Mar 26 21:27:41 I think I went a bit too aggressive :) I've got a cold tho so I wasn't thinking exactly correctly :) Mar 26 21:28:03 yeah, rwhitby gave me access to try and do those two changes yesterday Mar 26 21:28:32 gaffo_home: my "make stage" of evas completed Mar 26 21:28:48 hrm. I cleared libpng again and am re-building it an evas Mar 26 21:28:53 we'll see how that goes Mar 26 21:29:04 any chance you can try against doctor_14? Mar 26 21:29:56 not quickly - doing it right would probably require re-staging everything Mar 26 21:30:10 yeah, likely Mar 26 21:30:16 jacques: right now I am running two scripts a 500 and a 720... Mar 26 21:30:30 so I'm guessing you just rm'd evas's build directory Mar 26 21:30:41 and re-make stage'd it Mar 26 21:31:02 I hadn't staged evas until just now in this VM Mar 26 21:31:12 aah Mar 26 21:31:35 MetaView, did you get your keys sorted out? Mar 26 21:35:56 gaffo_home: not yet, works fine in windows but now I need to add the private(?) key into my ubuntu box without overwriting the existing key Mar 26 21:36:30 MetaView, so you're sshing from windows to Pre? Mar 26 21:36:38 and ubuntu to pre? Mar 26 21:36:43 or other way around? Mar 26 21:37:08 no fro mdesktop to pre Mar 26 21:39:35 okay, on anything you want to go to the pre for, you generate a key on the from box Mar 26 21:39:42 and then copy the public version of the key to the pre Mar 26 21:39:59 and append it to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 of the user you want to log in as with that key Mar 26 21:40:13 so typically scp it over using a password Mar 26 21:40:19 ssh to the pre Mar 26 21:40:22 and Mar 26 21:40:34 cat keyfile.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 Mar 26 21:40:46 do that for any box that you wish to get into the pre with Mar 26 21:41:35 gaffo_home: does it matter if there is a newline between keys? Mar 26 21:41:48 no Mar 26 21:41:49 well Mar 26 21:41:55 each key is typically on it's own line Mar 26 21:42:04 it just wraps in most editors Mar 26 21:42:08