**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 18 02:59:57 2010 Apr 18 03:17:09 I just succesfully installed precorder from the testing feeds. There are no screen shots, the error handling is buggy as hell, and the icon transparancies are messed up Apr 18 03:17:49 sounds successful Apr 18 03:17:58 super successful Apr 18 03:18:00 prealpha ftw Apr 18 03:18:08 lol Apr 18 03:18:11 we need a testing-testing feed, that not everyone and his brother has on his phone lol Apr 18 03:20:39 why are there so many palm-* feeds? Apr 18 03:22:05 why not? Apr 18 03:25:28 whats precorder? Apr 18 03:25:56 wasnt that the old video recording app before 1.4? Apr 18 03:26:06 VincentLaw: Yes, that's what it /used/ to be Apr 18 03:26:32 so now what's it do? >.> Apr 18 03:26:58 the new one is called the same thing for a lack of naming creativity :) Apr 18 03:27:49 *sigh* guess I don't get to know >.> Apr 18 03:29:10 well it certainly doesn't record anything Apr 18 03:29:25 since there isn't any other type of recording after video....... Apr 18 03:29:36 >.> Apr 18 03:29:50 * oil waits for 2 and 2 to equal 4 Apr 18 03:30:29 if you're trying to say it still records video, why bother? :p Apr 18 03:30:46 * oil gives up... Apr 18 03:30:59 * VincentLaw cries Apr 18 03:31:11 its late at night, if it isn't spelled out I'll never get it Apr 18 03:31:21 * oil isn't going to spell it out Apr 18 03:31:32 [23:27:10] *sigh* guess I don't get to know >.> Apr 18 03:32:31 oil: nah, it's an alpha name Apr 18 03:32:37 It's totally going to be called Prelolo Apr 18 03:32:40 xD Apr 18 03:32:45 lol Apr 18 03:33:17 hey is there an updated way to install the lighty web server with php support? Apr 18 03:33:58 the conf file installed with preware does not show the mod_fastcgi Apr 18 04:13:44 hello all Apr 18 05:45:37 Would it be possible to install Chrome OS on the Palm Pre? Hehe. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 18 07:53:18 2010 Apr 18 07:57:45 * uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz is away Apr 18 09:23:36 (01:45:25)yoshiness: Would it be possible to install Chrome OS on the Palm Pre? Hehe. Apr 18 09:23:44 goodnight Apr 18 12:42:07 [random exclamation with unnecessary enthusiasm]! Apr 18 12:54:22 * rwhitby adds swipe to delete to Saved Package List Apr 18 12:55:11 * rwhitby bbt Apr 18 12:55:54 any plans for a search function? Apr 18 13:10:50 RagingMind: want to add a search function? Apr 18 13:31:13 yay, mplayer just mplayed an flv on my pre :) Apr 18 13:31:35 s/mplayed/played/ Apr 18 13:37:57 hey,where would be best to go to suggest a feature/improvement to preware? Apr 18 13:38:38 kreiger: here would be okay, but you're likely to hear "that's a great idea, why don't you implement it?" Apr 18 13:38:43 :) Apr 18 13:39:46 ooh, while i'd like to learn the ins and outs of preware and learn to code for it, i dont have time atm :P Apr 18 13:40:25 i'd just like to see a feature to remove single packages from the "saved packages list" in the alpha, i know its new, but it'd be nice to see in the final (or whichever) release Apr 18 13:40:43 [08:54:21] * +rwhitby adds swipe to delete to Saved Package List Apr 18 13:40:50 luckily for you, you were beaten Apr 18 13:40:54 ah cool :) Apr 18 13:41:08 thats good Apr 18 13:41:49 im currently using it to reinstall about 200 packages :P and theres a few error'd ones stopping it Apr 18 13:41:57 so i have to do those manually before i can run through the lot Apr 18 13:42:52 ah man, it cheated... it used the framebuffer, not sdl... Apr 18 13:45:02 not terribly interested in mplayer unless it garners good framerates on h264 :p Apr 18 13:45:09 with subs >.> Apr 18 13:48:06 VincentLaw: I just wanted to try to cross-compile it, should've been straightforward as it can use SDL Apr 18 13:49:12 VincentLaw: but it doesn't detect the sdl library during configure, which hints at the setup here being broken... again Apr 18 13:50:48 VincentLaw: nevertheless, do you have an url to a h264 example Apr 18 13:50:49 ? Apr 18 14:20:13 asmw: courtesy of the google ... http://movies.dpreview.com.s3.amazonaws.com/panasonicGH1/00007.m4v Apr 18 14:20:59 asmw: here is the page that I found this sample on (it is the one with the Pigeon) http://www.dpreview.com/news/0905/09051503panasonicgh1preview.asp Apr 18 14:21:40 asmw: I typed "h.264 sample video" into the search box on the google. It looked on the interwebs and found some matches. Apr 18 14:23:45 asmw: heh, that file won't play on my Pre Apr 18 14:23:46 :) Apr 18 14:24:34 nt4cats: I was interested in a particular resolution/bitrate whatever VincentLaw is interested in Apr 18 14:24:52 nt4cats: so I could see if it was playable at all Apr 18 14:25:16 asmw: ahh, I thought maybe you hadn't heard of the google before. I found it myself only recently ;) Apr 18 14:25:20 nt4cats: as mplayer doesn't use gstreamer and thus none of the palm dsp stuff, i guess it's not going to go well Apr 18 14:26:01 nt4cats: as soon as mplayer finds the sdl libs again, i'm going to throw h264 at it, we'll see Apr 18 14:26:13 now out for some icecream Apr 18 14:39:35 nt4cats: not sure exactly what you guys are talking about, but gstreamer has an sdl plugins package Apr 18 14:39:44 ffmpeg also supports sdl i believe to an extent Apr 18 14:40:20 it's just going to be 1000 times more efficient to take the time and build an application for webOS with the proper backend, rather than trying to port a video player which is going to be a hassle and code you're not familiar with to tweak properly Apr 18 14:45:40 good morning Apr 18 14:46:48 morn webchatter Apr 18 14:50:24 anyone here that might be able to help me with getting ipkg updated? Apr 18 14:50:51 iv tried everything i read, nothing seems to work Apr 18 14:51:32 what do you mean? Apr 18 14:51:38 what's wrong with the version of ipkg you have? Apr 18 14:52:14 Failed to download lighttpd. Perhaps you need to run 'ipkg update'? Apr 18 14:53:54 its trying to get this /lighttpd_1.4.24-1_arm.ipk, but i noticed here :http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/unstable/ that its version lighttpd_1.4.26-1_arm.ipk Apr 18 14:54:03 zsoc: if he's having optware issues don't forget to tell him all about http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Optware Apr 18 14:54:30 best. wiki. page. ever. Apr 18 14:55:01 im trying this http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Tutorials_Linux_DDNS_Update_Client_wget Apr 18 14:55:19 but i get that ipg update error Apr 18 14:56:01 ipkg-opt update ? Apr 18 14:56:02 jeffwilson: I'd recommend that you make sure you are setup as indicated on that page, and then 'ipkg-opt update' and then 'ipkg-opt install lighttpd'. Apr 18 14:56:04 i have updated preware and the feeds and its not looking at the current build of that ipkg Apr 18 14:56:27 ... but if all you want is to do dynamic dns, I wouldn't follow those directions at all :) Apr 18 14:57:00 my goal was to get this google gps tracking to work Apr 18 14:57:09 jeffwilson: oh, okay Apr 18 14:57:23 is there an easier way? Apr 18 14:57:48 the version of lighty in preware conf file doesnt show it will render php Apr 18 14:58:06 jeffwilson: for doing dynamic dns, I think that installing "ex-ipupdate" from Preware's optware feed is very easy Apr 18 14:58:12 s/ex-/ez-/ Apr 18 14:58:28 what about the php rendering? Apr 18 14:59:14 jeff: the title of the link you sent was "DDNS" ... so I offered you an alternate solution for dynamic dns. I am not making any recommendations about php or GPS Apr 18 14:59:59 ... to get back to your original question about lighttpd, I think I offered you a solution (make sure your optware env't is setup correctly using the link I posted, then do the two 'ipkg-opt' commands I said) Apr 18 15:00:00 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Lighttpd ipkg-opt install lighttpd php-fcgi Apr 18 15:00:17 ok Apr 18 15:01:19 I need to head off to Church (sorry) -- I'm sure people here can help you with any other problems (I'll be back at 12:30p Eastern time) Apr 18 15:01:51 that worked , it updated and is dl/installing now thanks! Apr 18 15:02:20 you can add "php-fcgi" to the "ipkg-opt install ..." command (or do it separately) Apr 18 15:11:05 hi there Apr 18 15:11:27 is there anybody out there who can tell me where I can find an old WebOS Doctor? Apr 18 15:11:35 Version 1.1.3 for O2 Germany? Apr 18 15:14:51 why do you want 1.1.3? O.o Apr 18 15:16:20 to try creating an almost clean webos and then updating to 1.4.1 Apr 18 15:16:35 why can't you just doctor to 1.4.1? Apr 18 15:17:36 because it doesn't remove all the patches Apr 18 15:18:17 by installin 1.1.3 it seems to remove them deeper and cleaner Apr 18 17:40:01 Can anyone answer a question about patch updates? Apr 18 17:40:40 More specifically, what the process is and how long it usually takes to get an update in Preware once a patch is submitte. Apr 18 18:12:16 hello, can i hide the location services icon? Apr 18 18:13:14 i see apps in preware for hiding others, but if i have an http gps.php and someone turns off the location services what good is it? Apr 18 18:16:07 is there a way to remove an icon via terminal? Apr 18 18:20:13 yeah, i think there's a way you can hide an app by editing it's the appinfo.json file Apr 18 18:20:37 where is it located? Apr 18 18:21:00 hmmm...lemme check Apr 18 18:24:36 what app are you trying to hide? Apr 18 18:26:29 oh....location services Apr 18 18:26:50 so go to /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.location Apr 18 18:27:59 edit the appinfo.json and add "visible": false, (including the comma) after splashicon Apr 18 18:30:07 anyone ever managed to enable a framebuffer console? Apr 18 18:31:22 sorry i got d/c Apr 18 18:31:41 i think ive found it in the /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.location$ Apr 18 18:31:57 but i dont know what exactly to edit to make it hidden Apr 18 18:39:02 jeffwilson: Apr 18 18:39:02 19:23 < preoccupied> oh....location services Apr 18 18:39:03 19:23 < preoccupied> so go to /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.location Apr 18 18:39:06 19:24 -!- jeffwilson [~ae9c042d@gateway/web/freenode/x-ovebnxvqmbmwzvvd] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] Apr 18 18:39:09 19:24 < preoccupied> edit the appinfo.json and add "visible": false, (including the comma) after splashicon Apr 18 18:40:37 on the same line or below it? Apr 18 18:46:35 so thats how we hide any icon then? Apr 18 18:46:58 worked great thanks Apr 18 18:52:36 hey everyone Apr 18 18:53:28 it seems that i can trip the "phone,messaging,email" background processes disappearing problem by using preware Apr 18 18:54:01 anyone else seen this? Apr 18 19:00:03 latest pre update stopped preware from working, i suppose i have to go through the install process again? Apr 18 19:01:22 i would install the latest version, yes Apr 18 19:50:02 hey hey Apr 18 19:58:13 hey Apr 18 20:04:40 i can make the phone/messaging/email background processes disappear by using preware Apr 18 20:04:44 anyone had this before? Apr 18 20:04:52 i've heard of it Apr 18 20:04:57 not sure i've seen it repeatable Apr 18 20:06:19 not really repeatable Apr 18 20:06:41 just remember it having it two times after using preware (because i have jstop open to see when it happens) Apr 18 20:07:00 not saying it's preware just something related to preware (e.g app store or app install) Apr 18 20:07:24 maybe resource exhaustion Apr 18 20:12:50 that might be .. but i have watched jstop and didn't see anything Apr 18 20:13:16 are you coming to the dev days, jacques? Apr 18 20:16:09 i'm in contact with a palm engineer that wants to look at my phone during the dev days Apr 18 20:16:26 it's about time they can reproduce it and find out the root cause Apr 18 20:20:30 swisstomcat, yes, I will be at the dev days Apr 18 20:20:40 cool Apr 18 20:20:44 hope to meet you there Apr 18 20:21:01 airport is closed because of the damn volcano Apr 18 20:21:19 swisstomcat, it's great that you are coming - are you coming all the way from Switzerland? Apr 18 20:21:27 yeah Apr 18 20:21:29 if i can Apr 18 20:21:55 nice. we should definitely meet Apr 18 20:21:56 also going to visit my family while i'm over there Apr 18 20:22:10 that works out well then Apr 18 20:22:28 if only that damn volcano would stop spewing ash Apr 18 20:23:00 yeah :-\ Apr 18 20:23:25 lots of people at the CELF ELC (conf I was at last week) were stranded Apr 18 20:23:43 i wanted to go to that one too Apr 18 20:23:55 did you see matthew's talk? Apr 18 20:24:29 yes, I thought it was quite good Apr 18 20:24:38 will they put up the slides? Apr 18 20:25:04 yeah, they are going to put up slides and videos, but slides are two weeks away, and videos maybe longer Apr 18 20:25:09 great Apr 18 20:25:18 i heard he mentioned webos-internals Apr 18 20:25:39 he mentioned webos-internals several times :-) Apr 18 20:26:47 jsconf sounded interesting too Apr 18 20:28:45 jsconf? Apr 18 20:28:48 are you going to be there on thursday already? Apr 18 20:29:02 jsconf was in DC Apr 18 20:29:10 jsconf.us Apr 18 20:30:11 I should be arriving thursday morning Apr 18 20:30:43 OK, I need to go for a while - back later Apr 18 20:30:47 we'll probably have a thursday night meetup already Apr 18 20:30:50 social event Apr 18 20:30:53 that would be nice Apr 18 20:31:01 get in touch with roy-pre101 Apr 18 20:31:13 we're trying to find a good venue Apr 18 20:31:28 depends on how many ppl Apr 18 20:31:46 http://doodle.com/8wvkve2cs4pgrvfu Apr 18 20:31:49 here's a poll Apr 18 20:32:15 chuq/adora/lemketron will probably join as well Apr 18 20:32:22 nice Apr 18 20:33:14 now i have to find a tactical nuke to blow out that volcano Apr 18 20:33:37 OK I just did the poll Apr 18 20:33:42 really gotta go now :-) Apr 18 20:33:47 later Apr 18 20:38:33 sooooo, i want stellarium on my Pre. Is the best techique to do this1) re-package the arm release for the Pre, or 2)attemp to install X, and install it there? Apr 18 20:40:01 does it use SDL? Apr 18 20:43:34 yes and opengl es Apr 18 20:44:22 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/stellarium Apr 18 20:45:08 then it should work i think Apr 18 20:45:24 swisstomcat: how? Apr 18 20:45:25 e.g the navit port was done like this too Apr 18 20:45:43 i'm no expert but the WIDK/PDK would be a good start Apr 18 20:46:24 I got to the make stage command from the WIDK instructions Apr 18 20:46:33 am not sure where to go from there Apr 18 20:48:03 have you seen the instructions for building doom that follow after the widk install instructions Apr 18 20:48:12 yes Apr 18 20:50:46 you think if I can replace stellarium with doom? hrmmm. it's worth a stab Apr 18 20:51:28 but what about all those dependencies Apr 18 20:52:49 not replace but get a general idea how it's done Apr 18 20:53:08 you better wait for the experts Apr 18 20:53:17 morning Apr 18 20:53:53 g'day rwhitby Apr 18 20:53:59 good day Apr 18 20:54:31 rwhitby: have you heard of preware triggering the "phone,messaging,email background task disappearing problem"? Apr 18 20:54:50 swisstomcat: yep, never been able to get a repeatable test case though Apr 18 20:55:11 yeah, same here Apr 18 20:55:20 i had it two times in the last few days Apr 18 20:55:25 jstop was open Apr 18 20:55:29 not reproduceable Apr 18 20:55:36 or repeatable Apr 18 20:55:55 i've setup a meeting with a palm engineer during the dev days to look at my phone Apr 18 20:56:06 hopefully we can find the root cause Apr 18 20:56:17 rwhitby: do you know if installing Preware Alpha with Preware is supposed to remove the package manager service? I have a Sprint Pre w/1.4.1.1 Preware 0.9.36, Preware Alpha 0.9.61 and Save/Restore 0.6.7 Apr 18 20:56:18 what's your take on it? Apr 18 20:59:48 sethron|ubuntu: it intentionally removes the package manager service, because it includes a C service replacement. Is that not clear in the first post of the Preware Alpha thread? Apr 18 21:00:27 swisstomcat: can you reproduce with Preware Alpha and no separate package manager service installed? Apr 18 21:00:52 suppose it was not clear to me. Apr 18 21:01:05 have not tried it yet ... but i want to keep it in that stage now for palm to look at Apr 18 21:01:50 apparently they have not been able to reproduce it either Apr 18 21:05:14 swisstomcat: so you're running preware classic with the java package manager service? Apr 18 21:05:22 yep Apr 18 21:05:52 i really need a dev phone to test all the bleeding edge stuff and not hose my main phone Apr 18 21:08:29 preferrably one i can also get paid apps with :) Apr 18 21:09:59 swisstomcat: see /msg Apr 18 21:10:33 k Apr 18 21:16:34 what was that? Apr 18 21:16:47 (11:16:12 PM) mode (+v swisstomcat) by ChanServ Apr 18 21:17:19 swisstomcat: you are special now :O Apr 18 21:17:27 oh really Apr 18 21:32:26 sethron|ubuntu: did you tell anyone (other than me) about your 'swipe to delete' problem in Preware? Apr 18 21:32:50 * nt4cats missed his change to sethron|parenting Apr 18 21:33:41 night everyone Apr 18 21:34:31 rwhitby: sethron was here yesterday, said he couldn't delete custom feeds using Preware. I had to help him do it by CLI (I also wrote up http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Manually_Remove_Preware_Feeds) Apr 18 21:34:52 nt4cats: I'm pretty sure I've deleted custom feeds in Preware before Apr 18 21:36:17 rwhitby: I believe I have too (although not with the latest release) ... I'll delete the testing feed now to check Apr 18 21:37:44 it could be an enabled/disabled thing Apr 18 21:37:55 looks like the C service at least won't delete a disabled feed Apr 18 21:38:50 and neither the Java service Apr 18 21:39:37 rwhitby: behavior confirmed here (disabled and tried to delete, it didn't work) Apr 18 21:40:31 rwhitby: after re-enabling, it deleted happily Apr 18 21:43:08 * nt4cats added a note to the aforementioned wiki page recommending that folks enable feeds before deleting them Apr 18 21:49:30 rwhitby: is there a plan for merging build/crosscompile and tweaking the autobuilding? Apr 18 21:53:49 "Special Note - modified to convince people that I speak English" Apr 18 21:54:04 oil: stop making fun of me Apr 18 21:54:11 "Make sure people think nt4cats speaks betterer English" Apr 18 21:54:15 lol Apr 18 21:55:23 Lumiere: yes, but sb2 is not working properly on karmic on xen on amd for some reason Apr 18 21:55:38 i have setup a dyndns to my pre, i can ping the i have setup and i get reply from the correct ip adress, but when i try to ssh to it i get a time out, i can ssh to it on the wifi ip just fine tho Apr 18 21:55:54 jeffwilson: does your cellular provider block any ports? Apr 18 21:56:44 i have it using port 8081, i did this to another pre at almost the same time as i did this one and the other pre is working perfectly Apr 18 21:57:22 i can ssh or even view that the lighttpd is running when i check it using the dyndns name Apr 18 21:57:34 and you've modified iptables to allow access from the cell interface? Apr 18 21:57:46 on this one tho i can only do it if i use the lan ip not the ppp0 ip Apr 18 21:58:27 rwhitby: well i followed the same steps on both, im guessing something didnt take for the iptables, can you help me check them? Apr 18 21:59:17 i also did a dyndns on my sisters phone too and it is working for me to ssh to Apr 18 21:59:51 i havnt set up the lighttpd on her phone yet, but i can ssh to her dyndns Apr 18 22:03:27 * uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz is back. Apr 18 22:09:15 jeffwilson: if you pastebin your iptables statements I can help you with that Apr 18 22:10:07 ok sure, ill need help with the command Apr 18 22:10:26 jeffwilson: what command do you need help with? Apr 18 22:10:42 displaying the iptables statements to pastebin lol Apr 18 22:11:15 jeffwilson: assuming you're using openssh, 'cat /etc/event.d/mobi.optware.openssh' Apr 18 22:11:33 that'll display the file contents Apr 18 22:11:43 copy-and-paste that to http://webos.pastebin.com/ Apr 18 22:12:03 no such file, maybe thats the problem? Apr 18 22:12:36 jeffwilson: which ssh daemon did you install? openssh? dropbear? Apr 18 22:13:11 i have an optware-openssh Apr 18 22:13:18 jeffwilson: or, more to the point, what file(s) did you edit to change your Pre to listen on port 8081? Apr 18 22:13:43 jeffwilson: did you use Preware to install openssh? Apr 18 22:14:03 (sorry that is two questions at once) Apr 18 22:14:06 no i used ipkg-opt Apr 18 22:14:30 jeffwilson: oh, okay, we can deal with that. If you do this again I'd recommend you use Preware Apr 18 22:15:06 well i tried it 2 ways, i didnt like the id_rsa way Apr 18 22:15:44 jeffwilson: If I recall correctly you had to create your own file in /etc/event.d to lauch openssh. If you don't remember what it is called you can type "grep sshd *" to find the file Apr 18 22:15:54 http://webos.pastebin.com/d1mJ8wN3 Apr 18 22:16:03 this is what i have Apr 18 22:16:14 jeffwilson: note that if you use a username and password, it's likely to break on each webOS update, whereas using keys will not. Apr 18 22:16:28 i have updates disabled Apr 18 22:16:49 that is using port 222, not 8081 Apr 18 22:16:56 yes for ssh Apr 18 22:16:58 ... and it is setup for WiFi only Apr 18 22:17:05 i have lighty using 8081 Apr 18 22:17:32 if you want to do WiFi or EVDO, simply remove the "-i eth0" clause from the two iptables statements Apr 18 22:17:46 so so what do i change to ... thank you Apr 18 22:18:05 http://webos.pastebin.com/tv9AKHhk Apr 18 22:23:26 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH has been updated with these instructions Apr 18 22:24:44 nt4cats: here is for lighttpd http://webos.pastebin.com/rr7eDcCx and it doesnt seem to work from evdo side either Apr 18 22:24:57 but it does from wifi sie Apr 18 22:24:59 side Apr 18 22:27:52 jeffwilson: the iptables statements in that file look okay to me. Did they previously have a '-i eth0' in them? Apr 18 22:28:06 no Apr 18 22:29:00 I wonder if Sprint filters traffic on port 8081 ... Apr 18 22:29:14 (that'd be silly) Apr 18 22:30:04 jeffwilson: please pastebin the output of '/usr/sbin/iptables -L' Apr 18 22:31:06 http://webos.pastebin.com/MJYFyxD5 Apr 18 22:31:32 nt4cats: i did all the same stuf to another phone and it all worked great Apr 18 22:31:51 on port 8081 , its the other phone on my account Apr 18 22:32:56 I don't think your firewall is getting in the way in this case. The statements to set it up look right -- and the list of active rules look good, too. Apr 18 22:33:22 jeffwilson: can you check your lighthttpd configuration? Maybe you have it listening explicitly on eth0 Apr 18 22:34:12 * nt4cats has too many ht's there Apr 18 22:38:06 jeffwilson: how's it look? I don't mean to rush you but I need to shave my head Apr 18 22:38:39 http://webos.pastebin.com/W9a0TKUL Apr 18 22:38:54 sorry i was trying to copy the info over for you Apr 18 22:39:47 netstat -anp | grep 8081 Apr 18 22:40:26 root@palm-webos-device:/etc# netstat -anp | grep 8081 Apr 18 22:40:27 jeffwilson: that 'netstat ...' was for you to type and let me see the results Apr 18 22:40:39 tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8081 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1356/lighttpd Apr 18 22:42:04 go shave your head and i will come back in a while Apr 18 22:42:15 i have to do something myself. Apr 18 22:42:18 jeffwilson: a few more things, then I'll run upstairs Apr 18 22:42:21 (quick things) Apr 18 22:42:22 ok Apr 18 22:42:24 (if you can) Apr 18 22:42:34 well i didnt want to keep you Apr 18 22:42:46 but if youre willing so am i Apr 18 22:43:19 jeffwilson: check the /msg I just sent you Apr 18 22:45:58 jeffwilson: I just connected to the IP you gave me on port 8081, so it is working Apr 18 22:46:24 on the bob or sean? Apr 18 22:46:34 bob works, sean does not Apr 18 22:46:48 I checked the network layer Apr 18 22:47:04 I can connect to port 8081 on sean Apr 18 22:47:12 I didn't try to fetch anything Apr 18 22:47:40 does the sean link i gave you work? Apr 18 22:47:52 i get page cannot be displayed Apr 18 22:47:53 ... but this tells me that iptables is letting the packets through and that something (according to the netstat output you sent me that is lighttpd) accepted the connection Apr 18 22:48:35 I thought we were working on a networking issue -- your network is fine. You seem to have a lighttpd / php issue. Apr 18 22:48:53 I don't use either of those things, so I'd be fumbling around a bit to try and fix them Apr 18 22:49:15 well it works fine when i use 192.168.1.1:8081/gps.php Apr 18 22:49:15 I'd look in /var/log/messages, in wherever lighttpd writes its logs and look for error messages Apr 18 22:49:58 so, had it come out a few months ago Apr 18 22:50:04 okay, well with apache you have to define host names in the config file where you tell it the web content lives ... maybe you need to tell lighttpd that it is serving up content for that name Apr 18 22:50:14 i wouldn't have questioned it… but whats up the non-functional precorder that hit the feeds? Apr 18 22:50:33 nt4cats: can you try that link and see if a map shows? Apr 18 22:51:15 I did get a map, yes Apr 18 22:51:35 you're between valley road and hwy 54 Apr 18 22:52:35 it looks like if you go north just a little bit you'd be wet. Apr 18 22:53:33 yes, lake ofthe ozarks Apr 18 22:53:45 more shoreline than california has border Apr 18 22:53:53 ok well thank you Apr 18 22:54:02 sure Apr 18 22:54:18 note to all: if you're ever looking for jeffwilson, I know how to find him. Apr 18 22:54:29 lol Apr 18 22:54:47 * nt4cats is going to register www.whereisjeffwilson.com now Apr 18 22:55:07 i learned how to disable the location services icon too, this way if i lost my phone or stolen they cant hide it from me Apr 18 22:56:49 * nt4cats is going to run up and shave his own head (#1 comb -- that's bald, folks). Apr 18 22:57:51 grade 1 WFM Apr 18 22:59:30 sbromwich: i dropped my phone recently and had a reset Apr 18 22:59:43 any bleeding pieces of kernel beef I should be testing Apr 18 23:00:09 FuMan: I'm actually just working on a new one now to track down, give me... 30 mins or so Apr 18 23:00:16 word Apr 18 23:00:25 how can i suppress these messaes when using terminal http://webos.pastebin.com/XW2rNWt0 Apr 18 23:00:27 are you hosting them in someone with a meaningful sequential access? Apr 18 23:00:45 jeff, there is a patch in preware for that Apr 18 23:01:08 which patch? Apr 18 23:01:11 sbromwich: that was worded horribly… i mean is there a place where I can see if I have the latest… or is it still random precentral posts Apr 18 23:01:18 ahhhh Apr 18 23:01:50 TBH this is the best place... I get people to test them out on here, and if they no-one complains terribly I go post an amusing warning message up on PC Apr 18 23:02:01 Quiet powerd Messages Apr 18 23:02:18 "This will silence the powerd messages. The powerd messages are the sleep/wake messages sent to ssh/terminal when the device sleeps or wakes." Apr 18 23:02:27 sbromwich: word, i idle enough its not a big deal Apr 18 23:02:37 *nod* Apr 18 23:02:45 im just having to try real hard to get out of the habit of my fairly frequent soft resets Apr 18 23:02:54 *grin* Apr 18 23:03:04 ill be out and about Apr 18 23:03:09 and realize i just neutered my phone Apr 18 23:03:10 I wouldn't recommend saving any of my kernels in /boot just yet ;-) Apr 18 23:03:29 hah, i wouldn't know quite how even if i wanted to Apr 18 23:03:36 but, thanks for the warning :> Apr 18 23:03:38 ultimately once I have the right fixes I'm going to try to DTRT and commit properly to the uber tree and it'll be in preware Apr 18 23:03:45 ;-) Apr 18 23:03:53 deluxe, daddy like Apr 18 23:04:42 that's the plan, stan Apr 18 23:28:29 * nt4cats|afk is soooooooooo good looking Apr 18 23:29:19 just did mine this morning too Apr 18 23:29:38 sbromwich: shaved your head? Apr 18 23:29:47 mmm Apr 18 23:30:19 (that's what I just did, and that's why I'm feeling sooooooo good looking right now) Apr 18 23:30:51 does a great job of hiding the grey too ;-) Apr 18 23:31:32 although my fitness level is high enough that I tend to have bulging veins around the temples, so I get a bit tufty around there Apr 18 23:32:37 * oil has longish hair Apr 18 23:32:41 cause im too lazy to get it cut Apr 18 23:32:42 slow day in webos-internals Apr 18 23:33:09 "fitness" -- I am not familiar with this concept. Apr 18 23:33:45 last time i got my hair cut Apr 18 23:33:49 phil_bw: will it make you happier if I tell you that I shaved my head by attaching a blade to my Pre, put it on silent, and then sent myself a bunch of TXT messages? Apr 18 23:33:49 i donated it all to locks for love Apr 18 23:33:52 and got a free cut Apr 18 23:33:52 haha Apr 18 23:33:59 I don't drive and I don't like being around other people, so I ride a bicycle or walk everywhere Apr 18 23:34:13 nt4cats, make me happier? nah, give me a chuckle, definitely Apr 18 23:34:18 side effect: I am in the top 2% fittest people in NS Apr 18 23:34:22 and just for the record I got a haircut yesterday myself :P Apr 18 23:34:32 which is a sad reflection on the state of health in NS rather than me being all that fit Apr 18 23:34:43 i work too far away to bike or walk there Apr 18 23:35:20 how far is too far? Apr 18 23:35:34 wow, I think I might have finally bricked my phone Apr 18 23:35:38 like 20 mins to drive there Apr 18 23:35:41 on the freeway Apr 18 23:36:00 the parking lot freeway? Apr 18 23:36:16 parking log freeway? Apr 18 23:36:20 lot*? Apr 18 23:36:32