**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 31 02:59:56 2010 May 31 03:20:39 bpadalino: .de pixi plus is still in transit from .ch to .us May 31 03:21:02 oh, you're trafficking through .us to get to .au ? May 31 03:21:12 yep, to get .us app catalog May 31 03:21:15 gotcha! May 31 03:21:21 rwhitby: Hey Rod. May 31 03:21:30 hey BeeRad May 31 03:24:09 Anyone running the reduced drag radius patch? May 31 03:26:57 hey rod...it's Audemars02 from the forums...u around? (figured that instead of all the back-and-forth around the save/restore, i would look for you here) May 31 03:27:11 Audemars02: hey May 31 03:27:32 Audemars02: hexdump -C /var/svc/org.webosinternals.saverestore/com.glu.app/transg1 May 31 03:27:41 Audemars02: put the output on webos.pastebin.com please May 31 03:27:52 oops May 31 03:27:55 Audemars02: hexdump -C /var/svc/org.webosinternals.saverestore/com.glu.app.transg1 May 31 03:29:14 rod: http://webos.pastebin.com/W39FsRrD May 31 03:30:55 Audemars02: you wrote the file on windows? May 31 03:31:08 yes...using notepad May 31 03:31:25 ok, I suspect it is the file endings which are causing the problem May 31 03:31:29 saved as a .txt file...erased the ".txt" extension, then used webOS QI to "send file" May 31 03:31:50 Audemars02: do you know about windows vs linux line endings? May 31 03:32:00 rod: no clue! May 31 03:32:55 Audemars02: windows ends each line with 0x0d 0x0a (two characters). Linux ends each line with just 0x0a (one character0 May 31 03:34:13 Rod: interesting... so, um, how can i fix that? do i need to find a way to edit the file within Linux directly or can i fix it within Window? (and if i need to use linux, how do i then edit that way?) May 31 03:34:34 To change it in windows, use something like http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/index.shtml May 31 03:35:55 Audemars02: in linux, you can say: May 31 03:35:59 Audemars02: tr -d '\15\32' < dosfile.txt > unixfile.txt May 31 03:36:10 Audemars02: so in your case: May 31 03:36:42 Audemars02: probably easiest for you to do it in windows and send the fixed version over May 31 03:42:08 Rod: just downloaded... if i am reading this correctly, i just got to the Command Prompt (in DOS/Window) and would type in: "fromdos com.glu.app.transg1" to convert? is that correct? May 31 03:45:03 Rod: nevermind on the question...it seemed to work! so what do I need to do in order to get you the script? post in the forum? send as PM? etc May 31 04:02:50 Rod -- posted a ZIP file in the forums with 2 scripts for you! May 31 04:03:11 Rod -- thanks again for all your help. Time for bed now. gnight May 31 04:49:15 hey egaudet, you still there? May 31 04:51:02 possibly May 31 05:02:25 So could the dashboard widget homescreen be implemented? May 31 05:02:50 and if it could, it could also be manipulated in the lockscreen as well ala QuickSystemTasks May 31 05:14:50 I assume it could be implemented, just need to find someone willing and able May 31 05:36:47 if i could, i would May 31 05:58:12 so how many people are happy about govnah keepin the last setting on restart May 31 06:00:19 everyone that asked for it? May 31 06:03:08 yeah I know tons asked for it. I didn't but still like it. May 31 06:04:20 how are you oil May 31 06:04:35 not bad May 31 06:09:33 that's good May 31 06:09:55 TheSavaLord: sticky govnah was just a matter of working out how to make it safe, and then getting off my butt to add a method to the service to write the upstart file May 31 06:10:24 well awesome work May 31 06:10:24 rwhitby: also, ive been thinking about putting the stickey code in the apply function May 31 06:10:38 and integration with modeswitcher May 31 06:10:59 as it is now, and profile another app would set would be stuck May 31 06:11:35 oil: yeah, maybe making something sticky has to be a conscious selectiong. May 31 06:11:36 I haven't tried out modeswitcher yet May 31 06:12:00 like a checkbox in the profile list May 31 06:12:38 use the pushpin image to show which is stuck May 31 06:16:59 oil: can you test 0.4.1, and select Fixed Speed 800 profile, and then restart Govnah? It comes back as profile unknown May 31 06:17:51 it just means the function that tries to match the current settings to a profile isn't getting it right May 31 06:17:54 does it on mine May 31 06:18:06 (most likely due to the profile being created wrong) May 31 06:18:26 i assume its one from the default profiles file? May 31 06:18:48 yep May 31 06:18:53 yeah May 31 06:18:57 its just got something wrong May 31 06:19:26 when you fllick the app from there back to hhere and back again it comes up properly May 31 06:20:47 does it on all of them May 31 06:21:24 oil: ah, something to do with the startup-assistant and visible() thing May 31 06:21:38 oil: minimize and restore and it shows correctly May 31 06:23:23 yeah that will bring it back also May 31 06:24:13 this.visible() should fix it May 31 06:24:27 I've got that in 0.4.1 May 31 06:24:44 i mean, that calls the code to update the profile May 31 06:25:15 it could be a problem with profiles.findProfile May 31 06:25:44 you can try some debug info in there May 31 06:25:56 see what its doing May 31 06:27:13 oh, does the this.visible() in main-assistant setup need to be after the dataHandler setMainAssistant and start() ? May 31 06:28:09 doesn't matter May 31 06:31:19 oil: in main-assistant activate function, is the polarity of the this.firstActivate test correct? May 31 06:31:28 haha May 31 06:31:35 yeah, it seems backwards, but its not May 31 06:31:51 since that code is being ran by visible on setup May 31 06:31:58 it doesnt need to be called there on first launch May 31 06:33:40 I dunno what the problem with the profile display is then. May 31 06:34:06 I wish the aresDebug stuff worked on the real device May 31 06:34:10 haha May 31 06:34:20 like i said, i bet its in the profiles.findProfile function May 31 06:34:39 because the fact it says unknown May 31 06:34:48 means the code ran, and it didn't know which profile the settings matched May 31 06:34:56 rwhitby the ares debug stuff will work on a real device "soon" May 31 06:34:59 so something there is funky May 31 06:35:00 it's in the works. May 31 06:35:21 that's been publicly announced. No secret squirrel stuff May 31 06:35:22 if it wasn't ran it would still be "..." May 31 06:56:57 * rwhitby bbl May 31 07:12:35 hmm. May 31 07:13:22 How am I connected right now? Heh May 31 07:15:32 Hi... May 31 07:15:39 Anybody awake? May 31 07:15:52 naw May 31 07:15:59 Lies. May 31 07:16:22 we are all sleeping with our eyes open May 31 07:16:31 Impressive May 31 07:16:53 You're sleeping with yours eye open as well as responding to me on IRC. May 31 07:16:58 Your* May 31 07:17:07 You get the point. May 31 07:17:37 Recommendations on how to remove Luna Manager from my Updates on Preware? May 31 07:17:51 lol I'm doing by my mind through a hightech chip in my brain May 31 07:17:57 Tries to update Package Manager and just sits there. May 31 07:18:23 I read Package Manager was now part of Preware and I assume that's why it's not updating. May 31 07:18:53 they combined it so you don't need package manager May 31 07:19:32 did you try to uninstall luna before updaging it May 31 07:19:52 Right...Preware is trying to update Luna Mgr which is saying it relies on Pkg Mgr. May 31 07:20:13 Tries to update Pkg Mgr and just sits there. May 31 07:21:10 uninstall luna then install it May 31 07:21:35 don't use the update May 31 07:21:39 Says it needs Pkg Mgr to install. Same problem. May 31 07:22:18 do you know how to uninstall it without going into preware May 31 07:22:45 Yeah May 31 07:23:09 I uninstalled it via Preware. Gone from the Launcher. May 31 07:23:18 hold down the opt button then click on the icon. then go into preware to install it again May 31 07:23:47 I know but it's gone from the Launcher :D May 31 07:24:16 hmmmm May 31 07:24:49 I know Luna Mgr is in Preware but it opens way faster. May 31 07:24:51 restart the cell after it's gone May 31 07:25:10 then try instaling it May 31 07:25:25 I'll give it a shot. I'm on my phone now so I'll be back after the reboot. May 31 07:26:02 it might have to cleanup. the package manager might be running in the background May 31 07:27:23 I think I had to do that when changing luna managers May 31 07:31:37 Y hello thar. May 31 07:32:20 welcome back May 31 07:32:45 Word. May 31 07:32:56 trying it again May 31 07:33:29 Yessir. Didn't prompt for Pkg Mgr install that time. May 31 07:33:35 Sec... May 31 07:34:36 Success. May 31 07:35:09 cool May 31 07:35:18 Rebooted before, weird. Guess it was removal through Preware + reboot. May 31 07:35:54 Thanks for the input while you're sleeping. Much appreciated. May 31 07:36:11 when it comes to stuff being run in the background it's always best to reboot after uninstall May 31 07:36:34 no prob lol was just messing around about sleeping May 31 07:36:48 I had, just never removed it through Preware, always did it via the Launcher. May 31 07:37:10 No clue. Regardless, it's good now. May 31 07:37:58 no prob we all learn I'm just an enduser like you May 31 07:38:29 Indeeeeed. May 31 07:39:25 well I already went through it lol May 31 07:40:41 Wtf, there is an app in Preware called iWebOS and the screenshots are of iPhone OS. May 31 07:42:56 theme or app May 31 07:43:30 App May 31 07:47:33 looks like a front end multiple app launcher for the basic apps May 31 07:48:16 Yeah...launch an app that launches apps. May 31 07:48:22 Makes sense to me. May 31 07:48:52 lol May 31 07:49:41 Off to sleep. Take it easy, thanks again. May 31 07:50:24 no prob May 31 07:50:28 nite May 31 07:55:24 goodnight everyone May 31 10:18:52 There's a rumour going round that WebOS Internals is working on an overclock kernel for the Pixi - can anyone confirm/deny this? May 31 10:25:33 errade, do you have the programming reference for the ASIC used in the Pixi? May 31 10:46:11 ka6sox: No - are you saying we lack the information needed to create it? May 31 11:04:55 errade: I can officially deny that rumour. May 31 11:12:02 Thanks rwhitby :) May 31 11:33:08 hi there. is flash player support available or not (yet)? I googled it, and it said it should work from 1.4 with the flashplugin from the app catalog, but I cannot find it May 31 11:56:36 hello May 31 13:37:44 Hi, I am using a German GMS Pre (unfortunately, the interface language can't be set differently from the input language), and would like to use some of the various top bar patches (such as Data in Device Menu etc). May 31 13:38:06 neither of them works. Is this due to my localization? If so, is there a workaround? May 31 13:38:47 because, changing the language to English is not really an option since the input of umlauts and the like becomes a pita May 31 13:39:46 damada: Then you need to hope thyt someone adds the localization to the patch May 31 13:40:21 hape: ah, so multi-language patches are possible? May 31 13:40:27 damada: The most pachtes only pathc the en UI and the js libs. As the US Pres only have the en ui code. May 31 13:41:27 damada: yes. e.g. the 'phone time in caller list' by rwhitby is mutilanguge and has e the German lkang too May 31 13:41:39 I use it mayself (I'm from Germany too) May 31 13:42:31 hape, OK, thanks! May 31 18:15:27 evening May 31 18:19:44 rawr May 31 23:19:39 * bhuey was finally able to restore his messanging app to a default state May 31 23:19:53 too bad the reverse patches borked it in the first place May 31 23:20:12 seems to be white space damage creating a hunk mismatch May 31 23:27:04 bhuey, if you can fix them so that doesn't happen again? May 31 23:33:17 * uNiXpSyChO upgraded his bleeding-edge kernel to 2.6.24.7 May 31 23:33:59 uNiXpSyChO, so it boots on the pre now....right? May 31 23:33:59 :D May 31 23:34:24 i hope you werent thinking i ported 2.6.34? ;-) May 31 23:34:43 you didn't??? May 31 23:34:54 shame on me May 31 23:35:09 it should just "come up" May 31 23:35:35 should have been easy.... i mean ALL the drivers are there and open source. May 31 23:35:57 ya, but we know that palm did some "interesting" things. May 31 23:36:14 "dragons" May 31 23:36:18 and for sure you probably need to move charger-detect over. May 31 23:36:53 'for sure probably' thats precious. May 31 23:37:00 why? everything is upstream now and open... its way better May 31 23:37:11 * uNiXpSyChO the sarcasm is killing me May 31 23:38:08 without charger-detect it *will* shutdown May 31 23:38:23 (I found that out the hard way) May 31 23:38:37 never.... upstream knows best. open source rulez May 31 23:38:49 * uNiXpSyChO now i'm gagging May 31 23:41:35 ka6sox: his patches seem to all around leave stuff, May 31 23:42:09 it's like he's got th wrong parameters to diff or something like that and it's hosing out a bunch of unapply attempts May 31 23:42:20 bhuey, well...if you can fix it then please do. May 31 23:42:29 I don't have acess to his repos May 31 23:42:39 it's his own private patch as far as I known May 31 23:42:41 know May 31 23:43:01 which patch and who is he? May 31 23:51:37 ka6sox: the message plugin patch May 31 23:51:46 greg somebody May 31 23:52:23 What versions of webOS was it qualified for? May 31 23:52:38 pretty much all of them from his postings May 31 23:52:55 let me find the original post May 31 23:53:05 I know he's been offline overseas for a couple of weeks May 31 23:53:30 well, wehen he comes back, I'm more than happy to be a tester for him Jun 01 00:06:19 http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/233983-messaging-plugins-add-more-im-options-your-pre.html Jun 01 00:18:51 Why do entries show up twice in Jstop? Jun 01 00:46:46 so Jun 01 00:46:51 im sorry to share this with you guys Jun 01 00:47:21 but as a day one pre buyer, i'm switching away from the pre (which out of all my phones is the only one i actually use) to another device shortly. Jun 01 00:47:31 i'll no longer be with you guys Jun 01 00:47:52 an EVO? Jun 01 00:48:06 correct. Jun 01 00:48:11 me too Jun 01 00:48:20 i have nothing against webos, i much prefer it to android, but webos simply has no applications Jun 01 00:48:25 but i'm still hacking on my Pre until it dies. Jun 01 00:48:34 my pre will go in a drawer Jun 01 00:49:14 efuse: I might go down that road as well, but not because of the applications Jun 01 00:49:24 the hardware also is pretty bad Jun 01 00:49:29 and there is nothing new in sight Jun 01 00:49:35 most applications that I've seen for android kind of suck Jun 01 00:49:40 palm blew it, they really did Jun 01 00:49:48 actually the Pre hardware isnt all that bad... its the casing that sux. Jun 01 00:50:01 if they launched a real sdk, with the ability to run real code on day one Jun 01 00:50:04 along with paid app support Jun 01 00:50:08 case doesn't bother me, it's survived a lot of punishment Jun 01 00:50:10 launch of the three major us carriers Jun 01 00:50:17 they'd fucking dominate Jun 01 00:50:20 but they didn't, so it's over Jun 01 00:50:25 efuse: please take it to #webos Jun 01 00:50:28 hp will kill palm in short order, and that's that Jun 01 00:51:05 so i have a quick question Jun 01 00:51:16 can i export my contact/email/calendar to my google account? Jun 01 00:51:18 and/or a file? Jun 01 00:51:20 heh, and you expect an answer in this channel after that rant? Jun 01 00:51:30 if you are butthurt, that's not my problem Jun 01 00:51:47 only stating the obvious Jun 01 00:52:08 efuse: a lot can happen in a few months, I definitely wouldn't count palm out Jun 01 00:52:32 there really isn't room for a third party Jun 01 00:52:37 the game only has room for two Jun 01 00:52:42 palm had the chance to be the second Jun 01 00:52:46 and that's not happening now Jun 01 00:52:48 anyway Jun 01 00:52:50 I've had many chances to move to other hardware only to see that android sucked Jun 01 00:52:54 anyone know the answer to my qusetion? Jun 01 00:52:55 so I haven't Jun 01 00:53:02 efuse: probably not Jun 01 00:53:12 i know theres a patch for contacts Jun 01 00:54:20 efuse: just a question, how well did you know the Pre btw? Jun 01 00:54:50 ? Jun 01 00:54:54 i bought the device day one on sprint Jun 01 00:54:58 i've had it about a year now Jun 01 00:55:00 pretty damn well Jun 01 00:55:04 ok Jun 01 00:55:55 I bought it a few weeks after it was available Jun 01 00:55:58 it was quite raw then Jun 01 00:56:05 it still is Jun 01 00:56:50 i couldnt disagree more Jun 01 01:07:03 I tink I taw a putty cat! Jun 01 01:09:56 Where oh where did my little pre go…. Jun 01 01:10:51 Mine's about to go out the window if i can't figure out why the battery is draining so fast Jun 01 01:11:02 Oh, oh, oh Jun 01 01:11:10 20 bucks says because its on! Jun 01 01:11:34 amiright or amiright Jun 01 01:12:25 well, given that I'm losing 15% an hour with only the messaging app open.. Jun 01 01:12:33 Hmmm Jun 01 01:12:41 Little bit excessive…. Jun 01 01:13:13 I know wirc does that to me, along with constant web browsing Jun 01 01:13:25 or using data with one bar Jun 01 01:13:27 it sat on my coffee table while i played Red Dead Redemption. after a few hours it beeped that it was at 20% Jun 01 01:13:43 restart solves all Jun 01 01:13:48 that's the thing, I only used it to text a couple of times. otherwise i never even turned it on Jun 01 01:14:40 i have restarted. it helped a little.. but it's still not back to normal Jun 01 01:15:09 I am watching a kitten fight the wind Jun 01 01:15:10 I win Jun 01 01:15:32 there was a contest? Jun 01 01:15:36 Yup Jun 01 01:15:43 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fb1_1275282308 Jun 01 01:36:27 I'm deciding whether I can be arsed to install my dev tools on my mac. I mean, its not like their installed anywhere else right now. Jun 01 02:27:08 how is the webos internals crew doing lately? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 01 02:59:57 2010