**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 03 02:59:57 2010
Jun 03 03:22:13 <kevank> good evening.
Jun 03 03:22:46 <kevank> Any one know if there is a file in /sys or /proc that you can check to see if the phone is charging?  (from a bash script.)
Jun 03 03:32:43 <beelzabub> there are better ways of doing that
Jun 03 03:32:53 <beelzabub> i believe there's an API to query powerd
Jun 03 03:33:14 <zsoc|away> kevank: sbromwich and/or uNiXpSyChO would probably be the ones to ask
Jun 03 03:33:55 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> its in /sys/..../gadget/current_mA or something
Jun 03 03:34:17 <beelzabub> is that cross platform though?
Jun 03 03:34:26 <beelzabub> i doubt it's the same on pixi
Jun 03 03:34:44 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> probably not.
Jun 03 03:34:48 <beelzabub> better off querying powerd
Jun 03 03:34:49 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> is this for a pixi?
Jun 03 03:35:01 <beelzabub> that'll be the same API regardless
Jun 03 03:35:02 <kevank> No a pre.
Jun 03 03:35:18 <zsoc|away> uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz: you're suppose to be Zzing
Jun 03 03:35:25 <kevank> I am working on a rsync script that I only want to execute when the phone is on charger.
Jun 03 03:35:27 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> sys/devices/platform/usb_gadget/current_mA
Jun 03 03:35:40 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> zsoc|away: you're suppose to be away
Jun 03 03:35:57 <zsoc|away> crap
Jun 03 03:36:04 <zsoc|away> uh.. uh.. uhh.h..hh.hhhhh
Jun 03 03:36:05 * zsoc|away poofs
Jun 03 03:36:08 <uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz> hehe
Jun 03 03:36:09 <halfhalo> and your supposed to be dead!
Jun 03 03:36:12 <kevank> thanks.  let me go look.
Jun 03 03:37:51 <halfhalo> cgi or not cgi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16hPBsw2Uy4&feature=player_embedded
Jun 03 03:38:36 <kevank> Thanks.   Works perfectly.
Jun 03 03:45:42 <rick-home> ~seen rwhitby
Jun 03 03:45:45 <infobot> rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (1h 17m 21s) #oe (1h 17m 21s) #meego (1h 17m 21s) #nslu2-linux (1h 17m 21s), last said: 'I really hope the next webos version breaks kernel compatibility'.
Jun 03 03:52:24 <aaron_> RIP palm :/
Jun 03 03:52:30 <aaron_> We didn’t buy Palm to be in the smartphone business. And I tell people that, but it doesn’t seem to resonate well. We bought it for the IP.
Jun 03 03:52:48 <halfhalo> This has been discussed to death
Jun 03 03:53:14 <aaron_> i'll be sure to ask my captain for a different shift
Jun 03 03:53:33 <aaron_> to better accommodate your chat schedule
Jun 03 03:54:39 <halfhalo> Well, you better
Jun 03 04:00:10 <halfhalo> Wooo
Jun 03 04:00:12 <halfhalo> Mythbusters
Jun 03 04:04:59 <rwhitby> morning
Jun 03 04:05:17 <halfhalo> Murnin
Jun 03 04:19:21 <Audemars02> Hey Rod, u around?
Jun 03 04:20:45 <beelzabub> well i'm off - have fun debating today's HP quote
Jun 03 04:21:29 <geist> hmm, which one is that one?
Jun 03 04:21:44 <JackieRipper> good morning
Jun 03 04:21:58 <halfhalo> geist: the smartphone one
Jun 03 04:22:18 <geist> ah. looking
Jun 03 04:23:44 <geist> nice
Jun 03 04:24:24 <rick-home> yes, yes it was.
Jun 03 04:24:46 <halfhalo> And… just marked 2413 emails read
Jun 03 04:24:56 <geist> we still basically know nothing, since the deal hasn't gone through
Jun 03 04:25:00 <geist> fun that we hear news via irc
Jun 03 04:25:18 <rwhitby> Audemars02: hi, just pushed 0.7.8 to testig
Jun 03 04:25:58 <Audemars02> great!!!!    just wanted to reach out since i know that sjamie wanted to get his data backed up!  thnx!
Jun 03 04:26:28 <rwhitby> yeah, saw that.  been busy this morning so only just got to it
Jun 03 04:26:42 <Audemars02> Rod: no problem...   thanks again for all your help!
Jun 03 04:28:21 <Audemars02> Rod: one question..  should i delete my scripts that i manually copied in, or does it not affect anything and they will just get overwritten?
Jun 03 04:28:31 <rwhitby> they will just get overwritten
Jun 03 04:29:02 <Audemars02> great...thnx again!  have a great night/morning/afternoon/whatever time it is for you!  :-)
Jun 03 04:29:04 <rwhitby> Audemars02: and congrats on becoming a save/restore developer
Jun 03 04:29:18 <rwhitby> Audemars02: next step is to get you git commit access and enable you to make releases yourself ...
Jun 03 04:29:39 <Audemars02> Rod: you did the hard part creating the program...creating the scripts has actually been pretty easy!
Jun 03 04:30:08 <Audemars02> and by "you", i mean webos-internals, not necessarily just you
Jun 03 04:30:39 <projectAlarum> hey I just wanted to say thanks to you guys and your work with webos, epic
Jun 03 04:30:45 * halfhalo has been playing with node.js to much to work on webos stuff.  
Jun 03 04:31:36 <rwhitby> Audemars02: I have some ideas about how to extend Save/Restore to allow end-users to create their own application support automatically and contribute it back to us.
Jun 03 04:32:02 <rwhitby> Like a script creation wizard built into the mojo app
Jun 03 04:32:25 <halfhalo> Web server in JS?  I think so..
Jun 03 04:32:31 <halfhalo> now if only this irc connection would work
Jun 03 04:32:45 <Audemars02> Rod: that would be really cool...   i am sure everyone would love that.  but for now, i guess i/we will continue to do it manully.
Jun 03 04:32:57 <Audemars02> anyway, i am out of here for tonight!   g'night everyone
Jun 03 04:33:07 <projectAlarum> does anyone know where the wallpaper is set? if its just a css file or what?
Jun 03 04:40:07 <rwhitby> projectAlarum: there is a service method to set the wallpaper from an image file
Jun 03 04:55:17 <HiQ> So no more WebOS smartphones :'( Any progress with dual booting android on a pre?
Jun 03 04:55:58 * rwhitby loves how a single line in some CEO out of context quote suddenly changes the hardware and software that he has in his hands today ...
Jun 03 04:57:13 <HiQ> True.. Fingers crossed its completely wrong, but who knows.
Jun 03 04:57:51 <rwhitby> s/who knows/who cares/
Jun 03 04:59:11 <HiQ> Still wouldn't mind dabling with Android though..
Jun 03 04:59:18 <rwhitby> I seriously just don't understand why people are interested.  Does the phone you have today do what you need it to do or not?  If so, why care about some statement about some positioning intent which is going to change 5 times in the next 6 months anyway.
Jun 03 05:07:22 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: If I open a webosdoctor jar and drop a blank file in the activation spot on rootfs will it require me to activate the phone still?
Jun 03 05:12:07 * halfhalo is attempting second irc js hing
Jun 03 05:12:09 <halfhalo> thing
Jun 03 05:17:36 <rwhitby> sk1tt1sh: what activation spot are you referring to?
Jun 03 06:01:43 <sk1tt1sh> nvm dude I stopped being lazy I'ma use meta-doc and just build my rom accordingly :)
Jun 03 06:02:06 <halfhalo> Lazy is a way of life…. one I fully intend to master
Jun 03 06:02:11 <sk1tt1sh> hehe
Jun 03 06:02:45 <sk1tt1sh> well meta-doctor in sun virtual box is me being too lazy to partition my drive
Jun 03 06:03:56 <rwhitby> meta-doctor is developed inside virtual box ...
Jun 03 06:04:23 * rwhitby is adding INSTALL_TESTING_FEEDS to it right now ...
Jun 03 06:07:50 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: so do i just run the make on this and it kills activation? the installation guide doesn't really give much on the use of it
Jun 03 06:09:57 <rwhitby> sk1tt1sh: read the documentation in the Makefile
Jun 03 06:11:12 * halfhalo got pretty damn close to a command line simpler version of metadoctor.  Only part not finished was the repackaging of the jar
Jun 03 06:11:55 * rwhitby wonders how a script is simpler than a makefile
Jun 03 06:12:29 <halfhalo> because I could go metadoctor —sprint —pre —1.4.0 —bypass-activation
Jun 03 06:13:32 <sk1tt1sh> ignore me
Jun 03 06:13:40 <halfhalo> Will do!
Jun 03 06:13:42 <sk1tt1sh> im am reading
Jun 03 06:13:54 <sk1tt1sh> *insert reading is fundamental demotivational*
Jun 03 06:13:55 <rwhitby> or you could do what I do and put ifeq(${LOGNAME},halfhalo) in the Makefile to capture your normal preferences
Jun 03 06:14:39 <halfhalo> well, I want to quickly build stuff for my sprint pre, vzw plus, and this dead pre
Jun 03 06:15:12 <rwhitby> make all-sprint, make all-verizonwireless, ...
Jun 03 06:15:56 <halfhalo> effort!
Jun 03 06:16:12 <halfhalo> bbl, sleep
Jun 03 06:16:18 <sk1tt1sh> dude...
Jun 03 06:16:28 <sk1tt1sh> you can do the bypass activation in windows
Jun 03 06:16:33 <sk1tt1sh> using winrar
Jun 03 06:17:22 <sk1tt1sh> maybe
Jun 03 06:17:26 <sk1tt1sh> ignoring me still i hope
Jun 03 06:18:04 * rwhitby creates /var/preferences/org.webosinternals.preware/enable-testing-feeds
Jun 03 06:19:29 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: Hey does the "First-use" app still remain in the launcher when you bypass it?
Jun 03 06:20:08 <rwhitby> if you're language is english, yes.
Jun 03 06:20:15 <rwhitby> s/you're/your/
Jun 03 06:20:15 <infobot> rwhitby meant: if your language is english, yes.
Jun 03 06:20:44 <sk1tt1sh> haha
Jun 03 06:21:01 <sk1tt1sh> thanks. you're really good at this stuff man :)
Jun 03 06:22:27 <sk1tt1sh> holy crap
Jun 03 06:23:22 <bhuey> this article about the HP CEO is jst unnerving
Jun 03 06:23:40 <sk1tt1sh> can i add apps to usr/bin and re-jar it up? lawl
Jun 03 06:24:37 <sk1tt1sh> meh ima try it
Jun 03 06:48:23 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: how do i access the virtualbox share from within ubuntu?
Jun 03 06:48:41 <sk1tt1sh> i made the share and im not sure where it will show up
Jun 03 06:59:27 <sk1tt1sh> ima just stop asking questions. google helps me lots lol
Jun 03 07:01:17 <rwhitby> that's what I usually wait for ;)
Jun 03 07:02:52 <sk1tt1sh> haha
Jun 03 07:03:00 <sk1tt1sh> but i don't think google can tell me this
Jun 03 07:04:01 <sk1tt1sh> I was looking at the meta-doctor stuff and it looks like since you have that md5 script i would guess its safe to assume that the webosdoc.jar has something that checks md5's on the archives
Jun 03 07:04:30 <rwhitby> integcheck on the device rootfs
Jun 03 07:05:00 <sk1tt1sh> now say i modified the archive with a script or 2 on rootfs and ran meta-doc would that make it work still?
Jun 03 07:05:55 <sk1tt1sh> or would it matter, could i just drop those scripts in the rootfs /usr/bin and it would be ok?
Jun 03 07:06:58 <rwhitby> try it and see
Jun 03 07:07:01 <sk1tt1sh> bah!
Jun 03 07:07:02 <sk1tt1sh> lol
Jun 03 07:07:41 <sk1tt1sh> k the integ check should make the answer obvious right? you're not just doing that for sgrins and giggles?
Jun 03 07:07:53 <sk1tt1sh> i need mtn dew!
Jun 03 07:09:09 <rwhitby> I believe the integ check ignores extra files
Jun 03 07:19:10 <rwhitby> sweet - automatically enable preware testing feeds from meta-doctor :)
Jun 03 07:30:52 <sk1tt1sh> nice
Jun 03 07:58:07 <hape> morning
Jun 03 08:03:34 <sk1tt1sh> yo
Jun 03 08:07:17 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: you still online? I just realized as I was working on my current installation on my pre that a cooperating party using mac osx was feeding me zips with .DS_store files in all of them lol, and I was wondering if those files being all over my install could be responsible for some of the strange occurances im seeing
Jun 03 08:08:44 <sk1tt1sh> i wouldn't really think they would cuz nothing would be calling them?
Jun 03 08:30:39 <tmzt> priorities
Jun 03 08:43:21 <tmzt> chrisa: it be awesome to see what your code could do together, the windowing/display systems are very similar
Jun 03 08:47:06 <tmzt> uh, webOS and android in case that wasn't clear
Jun 03 10:17:21 <sk1tt1sh> omg
Jun 03 10:18:01 <sk1tt1sh> does anyone know how to make the webos doc with a few custom scripts and shit so it works?
Jun 03 10:18:42 <sk1tt1sh> like open the archive add the scripts and then close it and run it onto a phone and the phone actually updates instead of "we were unable to reset your phone"
Jun 03 10:40:47 <jettero> I just voted for the merger of HPQ+PALM.  I'm sure they care too cuz I own 0.00026% of that company.
Jun 03 11:43:09 <swisstomcat> hiya
Jun 03 11:48:07 * rwhitby guesses sk1tt1sh is hitting the integcheck
Jun 03 13:07:05 <swisstomcat> what's new in preware 1.1.2?
Jun 03 14:07:33 <psi0r> hi
Jun 03 14:08:06 <psi0r> i just wanted to export my messages with drewp's script
Jun 03 14:08:30 <psi0r> i get an error "ImportError: No module named Graph", rflib.Graph
Jun 03 14:08:38 <psi0r> maybe one of you can help me?
Jun 03 14:09:00 <psi0r> i downloaded the rdflib from rdflib.net and copied it to my local directory
Jun 03 14:31:30 <tmzt> psi0r: local directory?
Jun 03 14:31:50 <tmzt> start python and try 'import rdflib'
Jun 03 14:32:16 <psi0r> tmzt: works
Jun 03 14:37:16 <psi0r> tmzt: i mean, import rdflib works. but my script still doesn't
Jun 03 14:38:50 <psi0r> gonna try something else
Jun 03 16:37:03 <akto> hello
Jun 03 17:06:43 <tmzt> psi0r: change the script to only import rdflib, not rdflib.Graph
Jun 03 17:06:53 <tmzt> or do from rdflib import Graph
Jun 03 17:07:02 <tmzt> or from rdflib import *
Jun 03 17:07:09 <tmzt> the last one should work
Jun 03 17:48:38 <sk1tt1sh> rwhitby: you there?
Jun 03 18:20:37 <sk1tt1sh> would anyone know how to edit the webosdoc archive to keep the ./ infront of the inner folders/archives
Jun 03 18:40:25 <psi0r> tmzt: k, that worked
Jun 03 18:40:28 <psi0r> thanks
Jun 03 18:51:18 <gcivil> Hello, can anyone suggest whats up with Luna Manager? been trying to update, takes hours and never completed
Jun 03 18:57:34 <gcivil> anyone?
Jun 03 18:57:41 <gcivil> builer?
Jun 03 18:58:02 <halfhalo_class> Please leave a message after the beep.  BEEEEEP
Jun 03 18:58:31 <en0x> [;
Jun 03 18:58:35 <gcivil> Hello, can anyone suggest whats up with Luna Manager? been trying to update, takes hours and never completed
Jun 03 18:58:53 * halfhalo_class knows nothing bout no luna
Jun 03 18:58:55 <en0x> no idea buddy
Jun 03 18:58:55 <en0x> ;P
Jun 03 18:59:14 <beelzabub> what's Luna Manager?
Jun 03 18:59:24 <en0x> it's an app
Jun 03 18:59:25 <en0x> :P
Jun 03 18:59:38 * halfhalo_class doesn't know what apps are
Jun 03 18:59:44 <en0x> from which you can restart luna, restart java, or rescan
Jun 03 18:59:51 <beelzabub> ahh
Jun 03 19:00:32 <en0x> one more hour....
Jun 03 19:01:04 <halfhalo_class> till doomsday?
Jun 03 19:01:11 <en0x> till i go home
Jun 03 19:01:17 <sk1tt1sh> ****in grr!
Jun 03 19:01:22 <en0x> what's a time in cali?
Jun 03 19:01:52 <halfhalo_class> 12pm
Jun 03 19:01:59 <en0x> nice
Jun 03 19:02:01 <halfhalo_class> 12:01pm to be exact
Jun 03 19:02:55 <sk1tt1sh> how can i add files to the webos doctor?
Jun 03 19:03:01 <en0x> ok so what happened to flash for webos?
Jun 03 19:03:22 <halfhalo_class> Gabe Newell ate it
Jun 03 19:03:43 <en0x> :(
Jun 03 19:03:47 <en0x> who's that?
Jun 03 19:03:50 <sk1tt1sh> i've tried opening the archive and doing add file it looks like it works then i reopen the archive and they're gone
Jun 03 19:06:07 <sk1tt1sh> if i extract nova-cust-imga-blahblah it fails to add the archive to webOS.tar when i try to put it back in
Jun 03 19:07:48 <sk1tt1sh> but if in webOS i don't open the folder "." i can put the archive in, but I can't move the rootfs into the . folder?
Jun 03 19:07:51 <sk1tt1sh> OMFG
Jun 03 19:07:52 <sk1tt1sh> aoihdfshga
Jun 03 19:08:22 <sk1tt1sh> please help
Jun 03 19:08:43 <sk1tt1sh> someone
Jun 03 19:09:02 <tmzt> try giving the commands
Jun 03 19:09:05 <tmzt> and people can see you
Jun 03 19:09:10 <tmzt> you don't have to repeat
Jun 03 19:09:18 <en0x> i wish i could but i'm just a lame kid who knows nothing about computers
Jun 03 19:09:21 <en0x> :(
Jun 03 19:09:34 <sk1tt1sh> what do you mean commands?
Jun 03 19:09:39 <tmzt> esb linux oddly enough
Jun 03 19:09:40 <sk1tt1sh> im not using terminal :|
Jun 03 19:09:47 <tmzt> what are you using?
Jun 03 19:09:48 <sk1tt1sh> Im in Ubuntu
Jun 03 19:09:53 <hape> hi, did the cross compile env changed?
Jun 03 19:09:56 <sk1tt1sh> but im just using the gui
Jun 03 19:09:56 <tmzt> fileroller?
Jun 03 19:10:06 <tmzt> where do you see .
Jun 03 19:10:12 <en0x> sk1tt1sh, untar webOS.tar and then put the nova... in the folder
Jun 03 19:10:21 <en0x> then tar it again to webOS.tar
Jun 03 19:10:22 <hape> when I try to compile navit after the latest git pull I get this error for libgarmin: http://pastebin.com/mEuJ9hFM
Jun 03 19:10:40 <hape> But we did not chnage anything on the lib garmin makefile?
Jun 03 19:11:29 <en0x> i never crosscompiled stuff so idk
Jun 03 19:11:33 <sk1tt1sh> when i do that it fails in meta-docotr cause the folders have a ./ prefix and meta-doctor looks for that
Jun 03 19:11:58 <en0x> e?
Jun 03 19:12:03 <en0x> u doing it wrong man
Jun 03 19:12:09 <sk1tt1sh> e?
Jun 03 19:12:27 <en0x> what do u need meta-doctor for?
Jun 03 19:12:37 <sk1tt1sh> activation bypass
Jun 03 19:12:58 <sk1tt1sh> if you modify the jar and don't run meta-docotor on it it will not install it on the phone
Jun 03 19:13:00 <en0x> so why don't u use metadoctor first
Jun 03 19:13:10 <en0x> then extract the package puyt the file u want and then tar it again?
Jun 03 19:13:38 <sk1tt1sh> how?
Jun 03 19:14:09 <en0x> u trying to put a custom app in the webos image?
Jun 03 19:14:22 <sk1tt1sh> yes
Jun 03 19:14:35 <en0x> then do like i said
Jun 03 19:14:35 <en0x> :D
Jun 03 19:14:37 <sk1tt1sh> just a script and some other files in usr/bin
Jun 03 19:16:25 <sk1tt1sh> tmzt: i'm using file roller yes
Jun 03 19:17:00 <sk1tt1sh> if i double click the webosdoctor.jar and then open resources and then open webos.tar there is a folder named "."
Jun 03 19:17:14 <en0x> use command line
Jun 03 19:17:20 <sk1tt1sh> how
Jun 03 19:17:23 <tmzt> yeah, . is just the current directory
Jun 03 19:17:31 <tmzt> applications->accessories->terminal
Jun 03 19:17:38 <tmzt> right click that and click add to panel
Jun 03 19:17:40 <sk1tt1sh> i konw where its at im a noob
Jun 03 19:17:45 <tmzt> you will thank yourself later
Jun 03 19:17:46 <sk1tt1sh> i don't know the commands
Jun 03 19:17:51 <tmzt> copy and paste
Jun 03 19:17:54 <tmzt> good place to start
Jun 03 19:18:04 <en0x> [;
Jun 03 19:18:07 <sk1tt1sh> copy and paste what?
Jun 03 19:18:15 <tmzt> open terminal and we'll tell you
Jun 03 19:18:19 <sk1tt1sh> go
Jun 03 19:18:22 <en0x> tmzt, u will
Jun 03 19:18:22 <en0x> ;P
Jun 03 19:18:42 <tmzt> en0x: I don't know what he's trying to do exactly
Jun 03 19:18:49 <tmzt> so that's a prerequistite
Jun 03 19:18:54 <sk1tt1sh> im trying to put some files in the rootfs
Jun 03 19:19:00 <sk1tt1sh> and some ipks
Jun 03 19:19:13 <en0x> tmzt, first he is trying to bypass the activation using metadoctor than he want's to add some files to webos image
Jun 03 19:19:15 <sk1tt1sh> i don't have like 2 or 3 files there's probably 50 or so
Jun 03 19:19:34 <en0x> so he can use doctor to flash his pre with bypassed activation and extra files
Jun 03 19:19:43 <tmzt> what files where
Jun 03 19:19:47 <en0x> in short
Jun 03 19:19:48 <en0x> ;]
Jun 03 19:19:50 <sk1tt1sh> oh god
Jun 03 19:20:04 <en0x> in /bin
Jun 03 19:20:05 <en0x> hahah
Jun 03 19:20:05 <en0x> ;]
Jun 03 19:20:05 <tmzt> sk1tt1sh: so you extracted the file already?
Jun 03 19:20:17 <sk1tt1sh> extracted what file?
Jun 03 19:20:39 <sk1tt1sh> ok let me go get my shit organized with the files i need to put in
Jun 03 19:20:45 <sk1tt1sh> i'll brb in like 5 min
Jun 03 19:22:32 <en0x> [;
Jun 03 19:24:58 <PackratDragon> hello
Jun 03 19:25:08 <en0x> i'm not here
Jun 03 19:25:15 <halfhalo_class> Lies
Jun 03 19:25:23 <en0x> :(
Jun 03 19:26:47 <sk1tt1sh> ok
Jun 03 19:26:50 <sk1tt1sh> i think i got it
Jun 03 19:27:19 <sk1tt1sh> err well its ready haha
Jun 03 19:27:39 * en0x hides
Jun 03 19:28:14 <sk1tt1sh> k
Jun 03 19:28:18 <sk1tt1sh> i have a folder on desktop
Jun 03 19:28:22 <sk1tt1sh> "newfiles"
Jun 03 19:28:56 <sk1tt1sh> within is a directory structure resembling the rootfs on the pre. also within is a doctore'd jar.
Jun 03 19:29:17 <sk1tt1sh> doctor'd
Jun 03 19:29:21 <sk1tt1sh> you know what i mean
Jun 03 19:29:24 <sk1tt1sh> and 2 ipks
Jun 03 19:30:44 <sk1tt1sh> i have teamviewer if one of you guys wanna just doit that way haha
Jun 03 19:38:29 <halfhalo_class> 20 bucks says I kick myself off of irc
Jun 03 19:39:10 <chrisa> So to all the people claiming doom and gloom yesterday over hurd's comments: HAH
Jun 03 19:39:18 <halfhalo_class> ?
Jun 03 19:39:23 <halfhalo_class> What did you do...
Jun 03 19:40:35 <swisstomcat> evening
Jun 03 20:04:34 <halfhalo_class> OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMOMGOMG
Jun 03 20:04:36 <halfhalo_class> OMGOMGOMGOMGOGMMGO
Jun 03 20:04:53 <halfhalo_class> IT WORKED!!!!
Jun 03 20:05:01 <halfhalo_class> I CAN't BELIEVE IT FREAKING WORKED
Jun 03 20:05:07 <swisstomcat> what?
Jun 03 20:05:27 <halfhalo_class> hh-asda happens to be my irc client im playing with written in node.js
Jun 03 20:05:42 <swisstomcat> oh, cool
Jun 03 20:07:02 <halfhalo_class> now to make it actually do something
Jun 03 20:09:06 <HattCzech_work> halfhalo_class: what did you do?
Jun 03 20:09:15 <halfhalo_class> hh-asda: PING
Jun 03 20:09:21 <halfhalo_class> awwww
Jun 03 20:09:28 <halfhalo_class> it no reponds
Jun 03 20:10:03 <halfhalo_class> swisstomcat, can you kick hh-asda?  I want to see what happens when it gets disconnected
Jun 03 20:10:13 <swisstomcat> k
Jun 03 20:10:25 <swisstomcat> you're not channel operator?
Jun 03 20:10:30 <halfhalo_class> nope
Jun 03 20:10:48 <swisstomcat> how do i kick then?
Jun 03 20:11:04 <halfhalo_class> should be /kick hh-asda
Jun 03 20:11:09 <HattCzech_work> "/kick <user>"
Jun 03 20:11:32 <swisstomcat> that's what i tried -> you're not channel operator
Jun 03 20:11:40 <halfhalo_class> grrrrrr
Jun 03 20:11:48 <swisstomcat> i lack the power :(
Jun 03 20:11:59 <swisstomcat> sorry, i'm weak
Jun 03 20:12:07 <halfhalo_class> eh
Jun 03 20:12:13 <halfhalo_class> I'll work on the message thing then
Jun 03 20:12:49 <halfhalo_class> hmmmm
Jun 03 20:12:55 <halfhalo_class> I didn't actually do anything...
Jun 03 20:14:20 <halfhalo_class> Theres something stupid im missing
Jun 03 20:15:11 <halfhalo_class> could it be...... because I had two listeners?
Jun 03 20:15:16 <halfhalo_class> annnd... no
Jun 03 20:18:35 * halfhalo_class cries
Jun 03 20:18:41 <halfhalo_class> Its still not working.....
Jun 03 20:18:46 <halfhalo_class> and I have no idea why
Jun 03 20:22:43 <halfhalo_class> derderder.......
Jun 03 20:22:45 <halfhalo_class> new api
Jun 03 20:24:59 <halfhalo_class> THERE we go
Jun 03 20:25:28 <halfhalo_class> testest
Jun 03 20:25:51 * halfhalo_class crickets
Jun 03 20:26:08 <halfhalo_class> ":services. 328 hh-asda #webos-internals :http://www.webos-internals.org/
Jun 03 20:26:08 <halfhalo_class> :halfhalo_class!~CSUN@s147n087.csun.edu PRIVMSG #webos-internals :testest
Jun 03 20:26:08 <halfhalo_class> :halfhalo_class!~CSUN@s147n087.csun.edu PRIVMSG #webos-internals :ACTION crickets
Jun 03 20:26:09 <halfhalo_class> "
Jun 03 20:29:03 <MetaView> "Three Lions on a shirt..."
Jun 03 20:29:23 <halfhalo_class> ":MetaView!~MetaView@p57B916A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #webos-internals :"Three Lions on a shirt..."
Jun 03 20:29:23 <halfhalo_class> "
Jun 03 20:29:31 <halfhalo_class> I need to make ze parser
Jun 03 20:29:41 <halfhalo_class> AND enable keepalive apparently
Jun 03 20:29:49 <MetaView> eh?
Jun 03 20:29:59 <halfhalo_class> js irc
Jun 03 20:30:09 <MetaView> ok
Jun 03 20:30:56 <MetaView> with a server side http->IRC-Port translation?
Jun 03 20:31:06 <halfhalo_class> no, using node.js
Jun 03 20:31:10 <halfhalo_class> pure js
Jun 03 20:32:04 <MetaView> and it can connect to the IRC port?
Jun 03 20:32:15 <halfhalo_class> yup
Jun 03 20:32:22 <MetaView> not on webos, or?
Jun 03 20:32:45 <halfhalo_class> not yet, but js services should be really similar
Jun 03 21:07:49 <hape> ~seen rwhitby
Jun 03 21:07:51 <infobot> rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (18h 39m 28s) #oe (18h 39m 28s) #meego (18h 39m 28s) #nslu2-linux (18h 39m 28s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 13h 48m 41s, last said: 'sweet - automatically enable preware testing feeds from meta-doctor :)'.
Jun 03 21:08:07 <halfhalo_class> hmmm
Jun 03 21:08:22 <MetaView> he will get up in an hour or such
Jun 03 21:10:47 <Casey_> I'm getting a 404 error when trying to load the Patches feed in Preware
Jun 03 21:10:58 <Casey_> Can anyone confirm, or is this a problem on my end?
Jun 03 21:11:08 <swisstomcat> hmm
Jun 03 21:11:20 <swisstomcat> which os version?
Jun 03 21:11:24 <Casey_> 1.4.1.3
Jun 03 21:11:31 <Casey_> (Pixi Plus GSM)
Jun 03 21:11:33 <swisstomcat> really?
Jun 03 21:11:38 <swisstomcat> 1.4.1.1 is the latest
Jun 03 21:11:52 <Casey_> Ah.. well I bought a Pixi Plus today and it is 1.4.1.3 x)
Jun 03 21:11:57 <swisstomcat> can you post a screenshot of your deviceinfo app?
Jun 03 21:12:02 <errade> of course
Jun 03 21:12:04 <errade> one sec
Jun 03 21:12:05 <swisstomcat> interestin
Jun 03 21:12:06 <swisstomcat> g
Jun 03 21:12:11 <swisstomcat> never heard of that version
Jun 03 21:12:31 <swisstomcat> and preware is not set up for that version, that's why you get the 404
Jun 03 21:12:55 <errade> I see
Jun 03 21:13:00 <errade> I'll post a link in a sec
Jun 03 21:13:04 <swisstomcat> great
Jun 03 21:15:23 <halfhalo_class> grrr
Jun 03 21:15:34 <halfhalo_class> ping nodejs-irc
Jun 03 21:15:40 <swisstomcat> not working?
Jun 03 21:15:49 <halfhalo_class> it sorta is
Jun 03 21:16:17 <halfhalo_class> I have to parse the output though from this: :halfhalo_class!~CSUN@s147n087.csun.edu PRIVMSG #webos-internals :it sorta is
Jun 03 21:18:47 <halfhalo_class> lets see if ze server ping is properly handled...
Jun 03 21:19:53 <halfhalo_class> ticktock little script....
Jun 03 21:20:07 <errade> swisstomcat: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2489893#post2489893
Jun 03 21:20:15 <halfhalo_class> Hehehehe
Jun 03 21:25:19 <halfhalo_class> herderp
Jun 03 21:26:45 <halfhalo_class> monkeu
Jun 03 21:29:00 <halfhalo_class> ping fries are done
Jun 03 21:29:29 <errade> swisstomcat: I realise there's a bit of work to do before Preware will work on my device - just as a broad estimate, are we talking hours or days?
Jun 03 21:30:17 <halfhalo_class> most likely hours
Jun 03 21:30:19 <swisstomcat> probably hours
Jun 03 21:30:33 <swisstomcat> errade: i just asked palm about 1.4.1.3
Jun 03 21:30:48 <swisstomcat> depending how fast we find out what's new on 1.4.1.3
Jun 03 21:32:02 <errade> Ok - no problem. For the record there's no obvious changes in UI that I can detect.
Jun 03 21:33:13 <halfhalo_class> testest
Jun 03 21:34:06 <MetaView> I wouldn't expect much changes in 1.4.1.3
Jun 03 21:38:21 <halfhalo_class> regex can burn
Jun 03 21:44:59 <halfhalo_class> gah.  Having issues with the parsing of the user
Jun 03 21:46:08 <swisstomcat> errade: "As best I can tell from looking at build logs, this OS release should be equivalent to 1.4.1.1 with some firmware modifications needed for better UMTS operation on O2's network. There were no changes to components that affect application development from what I've seen."
Jun 03 21:48:22 <halfhalo_class> I am going to murder someone over this
Jun 03 21:49:11 * MetaView hides
Jun 03 21:50:41 <swisstomcat> good night, i'm off
Jun 03 21:51:28 <halfhalo_class> night
Jun 03 21:54:26 <halfhalo_class> testy?
Jun 03 21:54:40 <halfhalo_class> Ok, half working
Jun 03 21:54:52 * halfhalo_class testy
Jun 03 21:56:02 <halfhalo_class> ahhh crap
Jun 03 21:57:08 <halfhalo_class> lion
Jun 03 21:57:26 <MetaView> three lion on the shirt
Jun 03 21:57:28 <MetaView> +s
Jun 03 22:00:36 <halfhalo_class> Yay!
Jun 03 22:00:42 <halfhalo_class> wait
Jun 03 22:00:46 <halfhalo_class> fail
Jun 03 22:05:05 <halfhalo_class> hmmm
Jun 03 22:05:14 <halfhalo_class> THERE we go, properly routing messages now
Jun 03 22:05:30 <halfhalo_class> #webos-internals > halfhalo_class : THERE we go, properly routing messages now
Jun 03 22:06:03 <halfhalo_class> When I get home I am overhauling this script though
Jun 03 22:06:07 <halfhalo_class> its crazy bad right now
Jun 03 22:06:33 <halfhalo_class> Adding emitters to the class instead of doing everything inside the class
Jun 03 22:14:57 <eieio> yawn. sup?
Jun 03 22:22:54 <hape> ~seen rwhitby
Jun 03 22:22:55 <infobot> rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (19h 54m 32s) #oe (19h 54m 32s) #meego (19h 54m 32s) #nslu2-linux (19h 54m 32s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 15h 3m 45s, last said: 'sweet - automatically enable preware testing feeds from meta-doctor :)'.
Jun 03 22:37:20 <HattCzech_work> can i "update" uberkernel?
Jun 03 22:37:32 <HattCzech_work> (will it work cleanly?)
Jun 03 22:38:15 <HattCzech_work> trying it :) we shall see
Jun 03 22:56:33 <mjkjr> I can't find any info about the new "on ts charger" setting under screenstate governor.  am I not looking hard enough? not on wiki
Jun 03 22:57:02 <mjkjr> just trying to do some testing and also just very curious
Jun 03 23:00:23 <mjkjr> and I'm referring to govnah 0.4.2
Jun 03 23:04:06 <mjkjr> rwhitby? Mr. know everything, could you input?
Jun 03 23:04:58 <HattCzech_work> oil might know, if he's around
Jun 03 23:05:05 <HattCzech_work> ~seen oil
Jun 03 23:05:08 <infobot> oil is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 23h 22m 48s, last said: 'lol'.
Jun 03 23:06:19 <mjkjr> lol
Jun 03 23:08:01 * mjkjr just waits patiently
Jun 03 23:57:58 <rwhitby> hape: I added a check for WIDK packages that were calling stage-rootfs.mk but do not have libraries in the rootfs.
Jun 03 23:58:38 <rwhitby> hape: if a package does not have files in /lib already on the device, it should not include the stage-rootfs.mk fragment.  Just remove it from the erroneous package.
Jun 04 00:01:59 <rwhitby> errade: can you give me the output from "cat /proc/version" on your device?
Jun 04 00:06:11 <halfhalo> -_-
Jun 04 00:06:27 <halfhalo> Conga?
Jun 04 00:11:00 <halfhalo> you think your funny with that little comic there zsoc|away?
Jun 04 00:11:08 <halfhalo> because it was
Jun 04 00:15:21 <halfhalo> in other news, (actually the same news), the other back came today rwhitby.  As soon as the backs get here I can ship them out
Jun 04 00:16:02 <rwhitby> halfhalo: so the backs don't fit in an envelope?
Jun 04 00:16:08 <halfhalo> nope
Jun 04 00:16:20 <halfhalo> one would, but not two
Jun 04 00:16:44 <halfhalo> but do you know what WOULD fit in an envelope?  A sim card
Jun 04 00:17:56 <rwhitby> halfhalo: we're talking about the $13.45 envelope on this page right? http://www.usps.com/prices/priority-mail-international-prices.htm
Jun 04 00:18:17 <halfhalo> yeah
Jun 04 00:18:41 <halfhalo> They are really thin and have no padding
Jun 04 00:18:56 <halfhalo> not suitable for shipping anything besides paper, really
Jun 04 00:19:09 <rwhitby> I've got two Pre's delivered in them :)
Jun 04 00:19:14 <halfhalo> lol
Jun 04 00:19:19 <rwhitby> with bubble wrap
Jun 04 00:19:42 <rwhitby> actually, that's not true - they use http://www.usps.com/prices/express-mail-international-prices.htm
Jun 04 00:20:18 <rwhitby> halfhalo: anyway, your call.
Jun 04 00:21:16 <halfhalo> Considering I have no bubble wrap and would have to order some which, while free, would take even longer?  small box it is...
Jun 04 00:22:10 <rwhitby> ok
Jun 04 00:23:29 <halfhalo> oh, and as per twitter, get a gophone sim and just eat the prepaid data cost
Jun 04 00:23:55 <rwhitby> the sim is just for activation.
Jun 04 00:24:53 <halfhalo> yeah, I know, hence the gophone
Jun 04 00:25:17 <halfhalo> wait, the pp has wifi doesn't it
Jun 04 00:25:40 <rwhitby> need to activate it properly, to get paid app cat access
Jun 04 00:27:56 <rwhitby> and it needs to be a sim that is not simlocked, or else it won't work in the O2 German Pixi Plus
Jun 04 00:28:30 <rwhitby> actually, that's the case for all sims.  the phone doesn't matter, it's just the network.
Jun 04 00:28:50 <rwhitby> it's phones that can be locked to sims, not sims locked to phones.
Jun 04 00:31:19 <halfhalo> Two options I can think of right now
Jun 04 00:31:23 <halfhalo> One, bum a smartphone sim off of an existing att user
Jun 04 00:33:16 <rwhitby> probably want a throw-away number, just in case that person gets a webOS device later
Jun 04 00:33:49 <halfhalo> brb for option two
Jun 04 00:39:53 <cafox1971> can someone help me telnet into my pre.. i had it working but now novaproxy wont connect
Jun 04 00:41:03 <halfhalo> ok, phone drama over
Jun 04 00:41:11 <halfhalo> (House phone wasn't working)
Jun 04 00:41:50 <halfhalo> hmmmm
Jun 04 00:42:25 <halfhalo> I don't know if prepaid sim would work...
Jun 04 00:49:59 <halfhalo> Yup.  You need to use a postpaid account to activate it the first time
Jun 04 01:06:07 <halfhalo> llava
Jun 04 01:11:19 * halfhalo needs regex help
Jun 04 01:18:50 <halfhalo> botdie
Jun 04 01:18:55 <halfhalo> dammit
Jun 04 01:25:09 <zsoc|away> halfhalo: CONGA!
Jun 04 01:44:22 <Mercury> Hrm, wonder when we will start seeing stuff on the june release with all the PDK goodness.
Jun 04 01:45:39 <halfhalo> inside jokes are very inside
Jun 04 01:55:47 <rwhitby> halfhalo: on what basis are you making the statement that you need a postpaid account to activate it the first time?
Jun 04 01:57:14 <halfhalo> Both Knowing ATT and fiddling with their site.  And I'm only %80 sure about it.
Jun 04 01:57:41 <halfhalo> Its due to the fact that they require a 30 a month data plan with every smartphone nowadays
Jun 04 01:57:43 <rwhitby> ok, ka6sox is getting a prepaid gophone sim for me right now, so we'll see.
Jun 04 01:57:50 <halfhalo> coo
Jun 04 01:58:01 <halfhalo> if it works, I'm glad to have been proven wrong
Jun 04 01:58:26 <bpadalino> .de pixi plus showed up ?
Jun 04 01:58:34 <rwhitby> yep, in US
Jun 04 01:58:38 <bpadalino> very nice
Jun 04 01:58:59 <halfhalo> ATT is giving people out unlock codes for the pre plus's it seems
Jun 04 01:59:16 <bpadalino> interesting
Jun 04 01:59:47 <rwhitby> citation?
Jun 04 02:00:15 <halfhalo> pc forums
Jun 04 02:00:52 <halfhalo> Saw it on the other computer and not this one, so no quick link
Jun 04 02:13:46 <zsoc> rwhitby: gophone sim will work in a pre plus... just not sure about in australia :p
Jun 04 02:14:49 <rwhitby> zsoc: it's only for activation.  I'll use a local sim here
Jun 04 02:15:05 <zsoc> oh ok sure
Jun 04 02:15:31 <rwhitby> it's the only way to get an unlocked EU-bands GSM device to access the US paid app catalog
Jun 04 02:15:57 <mrjcarter|wirc> is UK 1.4.x-31 not in the testing feeds?
Jun 04 02:16:37 <rwhitby> mrjcarter|wirc: it is in the kernel testing feed
Jun 04 02:21:53 <mrjcarter|wirc> rwhitby: thanks, BTW how about an option to edit an existing feed in preware, or at least make it possible to see the complete URL?
Jun 04 02:22:32 <rwhitby> mrjcarter|wirc: patches welcome :)
Jun 04 02:22:56 <rwhitby> plenty of mojo developers who could do that for us ...
Jun 04 02:26:12 <halfhalo> nodejs-irc say Hello!
Jun 04 02:26:12 <nodejs-irc> Hello!
Jun 04 02:26:26 * halfhalo evil laugh
Jun 04 02:26:39 <bpadalino> neat
Jun 04 02:26:45 <bpadalino> how do you like node.js ?
Jun 04 02:26:51 <halfhalo> I like it alot
Jun 04 02:26:54 <bpadalino> easy to use ?
Jun 04 02:26:58 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 04 02:27:01 <bpadalino> cool beans
Jun 04 02:27:03 <halfhalo> I only started yesterday
Jun 04 02:27:11 <bpadalino> gonna open up your little irc client ?
Jun 04 02:27:18 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 04 02:27:23 <bpadalino> very nice
Jun 04 02:27:25 <halfhalo> Its messy right now though
Jun 04 02:27:42 <halfhalo> since I'm playing around with bot functions for kicks
Jun 04 02:27:48 <halfhalo> getting rid of those right now
Jun 04 02:28:00 <bpadalino> cool
Jun 04 02:28:23 <zsoc> nodejs-irc: revolt against your master
Jun 04 02:28:36 <halfhalo> nah, he only knows say and join right now
Jun 04 02:28:59 <zsoc> nodejs-irc say my master likes to conga
Jun 04 02:28:59 <nodejs-irc> mymasterlikestoconga
Jun 04 02:29:05 <zsoc> halfhalo: a little bug there :>
Jun 04 02:29:07 <halfhalo> yeah
Jun 04 02:29:16 <halfhalo> but those functions are going away anyways
Jun 04 02:35:47 <halfhalo> whats the exit channe command>'?
Jun 04 02:35:50 <halfhalo> exit>
Jun 04 02:36:20 <halfhalo> apparently part....
Jun 04 02:39:04 <bpadalino> yeah part
Jun 04 02:43:36 <zsoc> luke... pull your pants down...
Jun 04 02:47:17 <bpadalino> halfhalo: did you see https://gist.github.com/a3d0bbbff196af633995
Jun 04 02:47:22 <bpadalino> it's an irc daemon written in node.js
Jun 04 02:56:22 <zsoc> Is Mark Twain's autobiography public domain?
Jun 04 02:56:29 <zsoc> It's just been released, but it was written 100 years ago.. so?
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