**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 04 02:59:57 2010 Jun 04 03:00:27 bpadalino: yeah, saw that. Jun 04 03:05:19 he wanted it to be released 100 years after his death Jun 04 03:05:53 i imagine it's been held by his estate or whoever is in charge of his legacy .. Jun 04 03:06:00 so it's probably considered a new work Jun 04 03:06:06 hmph Jun 04 03:06:09 well i want it Jun 04 03:06:10 give it to me Jun 04 03:06:15 * bpadalino gives it all to zsoc Jun 04 03:06:28 ty Jun 04 03:06:30 yw Jun 04 03:10:35 stupid js question time: how do i do default for a switch Jun 04 03:11:10 i don't think you do Jun 04 03:11:18 default: ? Jun 04 03:11:20 figured it out Jun 04 03:11:21 yup Jun 04 03:11:31 oh, yeah, it's default: Jun 04 03:11:37 haha that's funny i was actually using it Jun 04 03:11:55 I'm moving the handling of the PRIVMSG and whatnot out of the main irc client class Jun 04 03:12:05 using emit Jun 04 03:12:23 Well, thats not entirely true Jun 04 03:12:29 I'm cleaning it up first Jun 04 03:16:04 And…. theres the channel setup… setup again Jun 04 03:16:37 Now to set up message handling again Jun 04 03:30:02 still failing at regex..... Jun 04 03:42:10 iiiinteresting..... Jun 04 03:43:02 Its only sending one letter Jun 04 03:44:05 -_- Jun 04 03:44:33 there needs to be a : before the message Jun 04 03:48:38 sigh.. im gonna do it.. i joined the evo crowed :( Jun 04 03:49:08 congrats Jun 04 03:49:16 * ka6sox boots up .eu pixi plus and attempts activation Jun 04 03:49:29 nodejs-irc say Hello! Jun 04 03:49:29 Hello! Jun 04 03:49:35 the 4g really sold me... Jun 04 03:49:44 hopefully it doesent flake out Jun 04 03:49:53 nodejs-irc say How is everyone today? Jun 04 03:49:53 How is everyone today? Jun 04 03:50:51 which market are you in for 4g ? Jun 04 03:51:12 austin Jun 04 03:51:30 pretty hyped around here Jun 04 03:51:38 neat Jun 04 03:51:41 nodejs-irc leave #webos-internals Jun 04 03:51:41 ByeBye! Jun 04 03:51:55 reformating the pre now :( Jun 04 03:52:04 i feel like im .... detaching from the world Jun 04 03:53:19 I need pygrub on this pixi...4 minute boot sucks. Jun 04 03:53:32 Hello! Jun 04 03:53:57 nodejs-irc boo! Jun 04 03:53:57 I dont know what that means! Jun 04 03:54:16 My mother told me to never talk to strangers! Jun 04 03:55:04 nodejs-irc tell halfhalo hi Jun 04 04:03:39 * halfhalo evil lauch Jun 04 04:03:55 hh-slavebot say /me evil Jun 04 04:03:55 evil Jun 04 04:04:17 well darn Jun 04 04:07:35 hh-slavebot say Hi Oil@ Jun 04 04:07:36 Oil@ Jun 04 04:07:44 FAIL SLAVE FAIL Jun 04 04:07:51 oh Jun 04 04:08:13 hh-slavebot say I failed just now Jun 04 04:08:13 failed just now Jun 04 04:08:18 :/ Jun 04 04:08:41 hh-slavebot quit Jun 04 04:09:38 halfhalo: you might want to join a different channel for that stuff - e.g. /join #halfhalo Jun 04 04:10:01 halfhalo is the best. Jun 04 04:10:27 And I would, but I'm trying to get the JOIN and PART messages down. all the rest im doing in its own channel Jun 04 04:11:08 For some reason it keeps getting JOIN and the MOTD stuff mixed up… I mean, I don't know how they are related at all Jun 04 04:11:35 And Here's hoping I can just port this directly to the pre with the js services Jun 04 04:15:16 MiX-MaN: i am also considering the evo, but i'll hold out a bit longer Jun 04 04:15:22 (also in austin) Jun 04 04:15:26 cool Jun 04 04:15:35 im one to never jump in on something ne Jun 04 04:15:35 new Jun 04 04:15:41 but this time... well Jun 04 04:15:49 heheh, yeah, i know Jun 04 04:15:51 ill prob get a bombshell :P Jun 04 04:15:59 i waited a whole week to get my pre :) Jun 04 04:16:09 i ... luckly found my pre Jun 04 04:16:20 called sprint .. they were like.. sure you can activate it Jun 04 04:16:22 ahh nice Jun 04 04:16:35 but i am a palm fan, have used them for a long time Jun 04 04:16:52 i never been a big fan of palm.. but the pre sure was nice Jun 04 04:16:56 so the evo is kinda jumping ship for me Jun 04 04:17:01 i really like web-os Jun 04 04:17:09 i can def see some good come from it Jun 04 04:17:31 and if my ex takes it.. then well.. i can still get the best of both worlds then :P Jun 04 04:17:50 heheeh Jun 04 04:18:11 anyone here know how to create a key constraint in mysql? Jun 04 04:18:23 i hate sql :P Jun 04 04:18:26 i tried based on the tutorial... but it didn't seem to work Jun 04 04:18:30 i just started learning it like the other day Jun 04 04:18:37 i really really dislike it Jun 04 04:18:46 hehehe Jun 04 04:18:56 i've played with it a bit here and there Jun 04 04:19:03 i'm getting more familiar with it as i go Jun 04 04:19:08 im building a bot in python.. and well.. sql is really needed.. :( Jun 04 04:19:47 should of seen my friend trying to explain it to me... Jun 04 04:19:53 should of saved the chat log.. lol Jun 04 04:20:01 "Dude look.. you have a piece of paper right"... Jun 04 04:20:15 "You write on that paper with a pen.. you cant change it" Jun 04 04:20:22 me: "uhh you lost me there" Jun 04 04:20:27 hahah Jun 04 04:20:37 how do you put the palm pre plus in developers mode Jun 04 04:21:08 ssr: konami code :P Jun 04 04:21:34 "upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart" Jun 04 04:21:37 well... f u 2 Jun 04 04:21:39 so late Jun 04 04:21:53 heh Jun 04 04:22:04 'webos20090606' also works Jun 04 04:22:13 konami is more fun :) Jun 04 04:22:15 (without the single quotes, of course) Jun 04 04:22:30 or wait is it upupdowndown or updownupdown Jun 04 04:22:36 oh well.. he's gone who cares Jun 04 04:22:41 upupdowndown :) hehe Jun 04 04:22:42 true Jun 04 04:22:48 :P Jun 04 04:23:06 im lazy anyhow.. i just grabed the devmode launcher Jun 04 04:23:42 so.. you think i should be nice and put preware on this thing for her? Jun 04 04:25:30 hell no.. im not gonna do it.. then she'll call me like every day.. i messed it up again Jun 04 04:25:49 or "i installed something and it got really hot now it wont turn on..." Jun 04 04:26:35 Ok, making a js wirc will be super easy Jun 04 04:26:57 :P Jun 04 04:29:03 ohh Jun 04 04:29:06 there putting the cap on Jun 04 04:29:12 let watch it fail in realtime Jun 04 04:29:25 link or it didn't happen Jun 04 04:29:34 http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/03/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 Jun 04 04:30:35 http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T1 <- live vid Jun 04 04:30:52 not much to see Jun 04 04:31:02 what ever that thing is.. looks like a brain and stem Jun 04 04:31:03 heh Jun 04 04:31:59 omg this is bad Jun 04 04:32:07 unmodified pre Jun 04 04:32:10 lol Jun 04 04:32:12 from stock Jun 04 04:32:13 lol Jun 04 04:32:15 vid no like my mac Jun 04 04:32:28 :/ Jun 04 04:32:47 http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605 Jun 04 04:32:49 try that one Jun 04 04:33:19 ... Jun 04 04:33:21 nope Jun 04 04:33:26 :\ Jun 04 04:33:28 needs flip4mac Jun 04 04:33:33 not missing much anyhow Jun 04 04:33:34 hehe Jun 04 04:33:42 just the wierd brain looking thing Jun 04 04:34:22 "The next 12 to 24 hours will give us an indication of how successful this attempt will be," Hayward told reporters at the company's U.S. headquarters in Houston, Texas. Jun 04 04:34:24 ahh.. Jun 04 04:34:29 i'll have to check it in the morning Jun 04 04:35:17 " The more primitive cut means that a rubber seal will not be as tight as previously hoped, meaning a dome won't completely contain the spill, said U.S. Coast Guard Adm." Jun 04 04:35:19 lol.. nice Jun 04 04:36:38 hmm.. pre's pretty quick running stock Jun 04 04:36:50 Iusually run mine stock Jun 04 04:37:00 had about 15 patchs on mine Jun 04 04:37:06 few things i had to have Jun 04 04:37:21 small icons, device menu, date bar being the most important Jun 04 04:37:53 heh when i first found preware .. i installed in upwards of like ... 50 patchs or so Jun 04 04:37:54 morning Jun 04 04:37:59 did'nt work so well Jun 04 04:38:11 rwhitby: thanks for the info, will do the chnage Jun 04 04:38:12 hape: evening... Jun 04 04:38:23 hape: already done Jun 04 04:38:41 MiX-MaN: ;-), I love worldwide projects Jun 04 04:38:50 :) Jun 04 04:39:03 rwhitby: ok, thanks Jun 04 04:39:17 Its the pinnacle of efficiency! Well, it would be if I were not here disctracting people..... Jun 04 04:39:32 speaking of distracting Jun 04 04:39:36 need sleep Jun 04 04:39:43 gotta be up early for the bestbuy rampage Jun 04 04:39:52 bb? Jun 04 04:39:59 evo Jun 04 04:40:07 gonna look like an iTard standing out there Jun 04 04:40:08 Ahhhh Jun 04 04:40:22 :P Jun 04 04:40:51 they called me up like yesterday... already sold me a bunch of crap before i even made it to the store Jun 04 04:40:54 you want a case? Jun 04 04:40:57 what about a charger? Jun 04 04:41:02 jesus ppl Jun 04 04:42:43 anyways Jun 04 04:42:46 laterz all :) Jun 04 04:42:50 i'll still idle around Jun 04 04:43:01 maybe the evo will suck and i'll come crawling back Jun 04 04:43:08 heh Jun 04 07:22:24 morning Jun 04 08:24:03 hd Jun 04 08:24:32 can anyone help me install preware? Jun 04 08:24:41 hi Jun 04 08:24:58 can u help me? Jun 04 08:25:02 http://preware.org/#/install/ Jun 04 08:25:07 does that help? Jun 04 08:26:26 eh not really. I have WebOS Quick install installed and WebOS Doctor installed but when i open quickinstall it just tells me to download doctor. Jun 04 08:26:41 hmm Jun 04 08:26:51 are both files in the same directory? Jun 04 08:27:34 well i am not a super expert on computer so i'm not sure what that means. haha sorry. and also i'm on a mac Jun 04 08:28:14 that's fine Jun 04 08:28:39 did you download the webosquickinstall and webos doctor to the same place/folder? Jun 04 08:29:33 No i downloaded them straight to the downloads file. Jun 04 08:29:43 if i move them to the same file will that work? Jun 04 08:30:43 are they both in the downloads folder then? Jun 04 08:31:11 yes Jun 04 08:31:52 i would assume that it would work then Jun 04 08:35:06 i really have no idea whats wrong then. Do you think it would be easier to do all of this on a PC? Jun 04 08:35:57 i have not tried it on a mac yet Jun 04 08:36:14 but i would assume it would work the same Jun 04 08:37:54 yay its working now. im not sure what i did but its working. Jun 04 08:38:02 Thank you so much for your help. Jun 04 08:38:40 wohoo Jun 04 08:39:54 thanks for the help again. bye Jun 04 14:21:49 hi Jun 04 14:44:31 hi Jun 04 15:34:19 mmm Jun 04 15:34:22 this thing is sexy Jun 04 15:34:35 ? Jun 04 15:34:40 sexy evo is sexy Jun 04 15:34:55 got ya Jun 04 15:34:59 ex is happy with her pre :P Jun 04 15:35:02 too big for my taste Jun 04 15:35:31 Yes, but does the evo have its own dedicated irc bot in its irc channel? Jun 04 15:35:39 not yet :P Jun 04 15:35:40 hehe Jun 04 15:35:51 nodejs-irc say Haha! Jun 04 15:35:52 Haha! Jun 04 15:36:04 :P Jun 04 15:36:11 thats next on the agenda Jun 04 15:36:16 suuuure Jun 04 15:36:23 hehe Jun 04 15:36:28 sprints upgrade system went down Jun 04 15:36:34 eh Jun 04 15:36:35 after i got mine upgraded Jun 04 15:36:44 esn upgrade Jun 04 15:36:45 I'm not upgrading my phone on sprint Jun 04 15:36:56 me too Jun 04 15:36:58 I'm going to run out my contract and switch Jun 04 15:37:06 halfhalo, to att? :P Jun 04 15:37:12 eww Jun 04 15:37:15 Sprint works EVERYWHERE but my house Jun 04 15:37:21 and no, to tmo Jun 04 15:37:28 i had tmo year ago Jun 04 15:37:32 thats norm how sprint works Jun 04 15:37:35 they have really good coverage around me now Jun 04 15:37:38 aint bad but their data plans... Jun 04 15:37:38 works everywhere except my house :) Jun 04 15:37:47 although since i moved theres a tower right behind me Jun 04 15:37:50 i have good coverage everywhere Jun 04 15:37:55 even in my house Jun 04 15:37:56 ;d Jun 04 15:38:23 well, its 60 bucks for unlimited, and I can then move my little brother from vzw to it and get him unlimited texts/data/whatevs instead of what he as now Jun 04 15:38:35 verizon is nice Jun 04 15:38:41 but pricy Jun 04 15:38:43 used to have them.. till i screwed em over :/ Jun 04 15:38:59 I miss my vzw tethering for 15 a month.... Jun 04 15:39:10 why on tmo even more plus is cheaper than even more with 2yr contract? Jun 04 15:39:24 you get the phone upfront Jun 04 15:39:33 no subsisidies Jun 04 15:39:39 and with that, brb driving to work Jun 04 15:41:13 so basically i have to pay for the phone as it costs not discount or any sit? Jun 04 15:41:16 shit* Jun 04 15:43:46 rwhitby: Sorry for the delay Jun 04 15:43:54 rwhitby: Linux version 2.6.24-palm-chuck (reviewdaemon@buildoe-25) (gcc version 4.2.1 (CodeSourcery Sourcery G++ Lite 2007q3-51)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 15 21:56:56 PDT 2010 Jun 04 15:44:43 MiX-MaN: what was the plan price? Jun 04 15:45:00 (difference between everything data and 4g?) Jun 04 15:46:27 back in a bit... have to be somewhere Jun 04 15:54:47 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Java_Support_in_webOS <- this page suggests palm is going to get rid of oasisvm; where was that announced? Jun 04 15:55:04 rwhitby: finally got a pre :-) :-) Jun 04 16:11:24 jdub: it was announced at the palm developer days Jun 04 16:11:40 they will start to use javascript-services Jun 04 16:11:44 Yup Jun 04 16:11:47 Which are fun Jun 04 16:11:57 apparently Jun 04 16:12:14 how do you like node.js? Jun 04 16:12:29 Node.js is Fun! Jun 04 16:13:07 see, even the bot likes it Jun 04 16:13:24 and HE only knows like 4 things Jun 04 16:14:07 hh-slavebot leave #webos Jun 04 16:14:07 ByeBye! Jun 04 16:14:14 have yet to look at node.js Jun 04 16:14:20 it IS a slave Jun 04 16:14:22 It is seriously easy Jun 04 16:14:33 i've seen some samples Jun 04 16:14:51 My irc bot is 2 files only Jun 04 16:14:57 the irc class, and the bot Jun 04 16:15:29 hh-slavebot quit Jun 04 16:16:37 It has no error handling right now though, thats its main issue Jun 04 16:17:19 It only knows how to respond to PRIVMSG, and the irc class emits that along with join and quit things Jun 04 16:19:31 But emitters are cool Jun 04 16:22:13 I'm having problem installing preware Jun 04 16:22:33 thats not good Jun 04 16:23:58 sorry Jun 04 16:27:40 ok, well, apparently quit and part are sent as two seperate events Jun 04 16:38:38 ~seen uNiXpSyCho Jun 04 16:38:42 unixpsycho <~unixpsych@static-72-93-236-42.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 3d 15h 41m 52s ago, saying: 'i couldnt disagree more'. Jun 04 16:39:11 shoot Jun 04 16:39:31 Hah Jun 04 16:41:57 I just want to know about 'on ts charger' setting under screen state governor. Jun 04 16:47:23 swisstomcat: aha, thanks Jun 04 16:59:23 * halfhalo_class can't get ACTION working properly.... Jun 04 17:33:09 quick question, how do I remove an app from save/restore? Jun 04 17:33:24 no idea Jun 04 17:34:52 I tried using Jasons Internalz but it's not completely removing. Jun 04 17:37:43 I don't know why but it just bothers me seeing an app in save/restore that I don't even use anymore. Jun 04 17:38:08 lol Jun 04 17:44:29 BeeRad: connect via usb and delete from save/restore folder Jun 04 17:44:38 rehi Jun 04 18:10:14 how do I download preware without connecting to my desktop Jun 04 18:10:40 is there even a way? Jun 04 18:11:54 I don't know. That's whyim asking Jun 04 18:12:33 it needs to be connected Jun 04 18:12:39 to either install preware Jun 04 18:12:52 or install something else that will let you get on the pre and install preware Jun 04 18:14:16 (as far as i know anyways) Jun 04 18:23:32 that guy is crazy oilsworkn Jun 04 18:23:33 XD Jun 04 18:23:47 Even if he got it to install he should have a computer he can the web doctor on Jun 04 18:23:48 <_< Jun 04 18:33:10 where can I get libdbus-dev? Jun 04 18:33:32 opensource.palm.com? Jun 04 18:37:10 bleee Jun 04 18:48:56 how do I install preware on my palm without having internet on desktop Jun 04 18:50:12 holycrap it works Jun 04 18:50:16 hey how would i add a tar.gz file to a tar file? Jun 04 18:50:29 I honestly have no idea Jun 04 18:50:36 via terminal taht is :p Jun 04 18:51:38 sk1tt1z, tar,gz its akready a tar file Jun 04 18:51:46 i know Jun 04 18:52:02 remember yesterday I was trying to pull apart doctor an add files? Jun 04 18:52:19 so if u know then why u ask stupid question? Jun 04 18:52:28 well i got it. i've got nova-cust-rootfs.tar.gz put together with all permissions Jun 04 18:52:37 now I need to re-add it to webos.tar Jun 04 18:52:45 so I need internet on home computer to install preware on cell Jun 04 18:52:55 no Jun 04 18:53:05 open up terminal on ur cell and type cd/tmp Jun 04 18:53:08 cd /tmp Jun 04 18:53:19 wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap Jun 04 18:53:25 sh preware-bootstrap Jun 04 18:53:31 and... how would he be getting a terminal.... Jun 04 18:53:45 idk maybe he has a doctored os Jun 04 18:54:02 i mean doctored by he's changed it somehow haha Jun 04 18:54:26 or he can use novaproxy.py and then use putty to ssh into the phone over root and then type those commands Jun 04 18:54:32 or maybe he has wosqi Jun 04 18:54:44 there's like 50 ways to terminal the pre lol Jun 04 18:55:08 I have the updated version of java on home computer but like I said don't have internet service Jun 04 18:56:05 so u got a problem Jun 04 18:56:18 eot Jun 04 18:57:12 MiX-MaN: you around? Jun 04 18:57:29 yeap Jun 04 18:57:31 pls help me fix it Jun 04 18:58:02 yap he will magically put preware on your desktop so u can install it on ur pre Jun 04 19:12:28 can repeat that it kick me out Jun 04 19:20:30 tar -f webos.tar -r ./nova-custblahblah Jun 04 19:20:31 :) Jun 04 20:56:53 I DIDIT!!!! hahaha woot! Jun 04 21:03:20 rwhitby you is a fkn genius bro. Jun 04 21:17:01 NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Jun 04 21:17:20 is there any error logging for webosdoctor? Jun 04 21:17:43 well Jun 04 21:17:46 on the console Jun 04 21:17:59 if you start the doctor on the console/terminal/commandline Jun 04 21:18:12 like open up command prompt? Jun 04 21:18:17 e.g java -jar WebOSDoctor.jar Jun 04 21:18:19 yeah Jun 04 21:18:19 and run it from cmd? Jun 04 21:19:01 will that assist in determining why it gives that stupid "we were unable to reset your device" error? Jun 04 21:19:49 rwhitby / oil: around? Jun 04 21:20:15 maybe, it does some logging Jun 04 21:20:19 try it Jun 04 21:21:31 hi guys. Is there any info on installing preware on a pre through ubuntu 10.4? The webosquickinstall.jar can't be run on 10.4 so I can't follow the instructions on the website Jun 04 21:22:03 when I say, it can't be run, I mean that I can't run it. If it can be run I'd love to hear how :) Jun 04 21:22:18 what happens when you try to run it ? Jun 04 21:22:27 it can't be run? Jun 04 21:22:30 what's the problem? Jun 04 21:22:35 i have 10.04 too Jun 04 21:22:43 and 9.04 and 9.10 Jun 04 21:22:57 weird the phone seems to boot fine Jun 04 21:23:05 swisstomcat, well something runs but I don't see any window Jun 04 21:23:24 try java -jar webosquickinstall.jar Jun 04 21:23:28 that's what I do Jun 04 21:23:29 in the terminal Jun 04 21:23:46 and what's the output you get in the terminal? Jun 04 21:24:10 I do get a window button in the bottom bar titled "download required", but there's no window on the desktop Jun 04 21:24:12 i will do that in a min. Jun 04 21:24:26 swisstomcat, I don't see any output Jun 04 21:24:38 did you download the webosdoctor as well, fredsa? Jun 04 21:24:55 no, I thought it installs that when you run it Jun 04 21:25:07 true Jun 04 21:25:23 you can try to download it yourself Jun 04 21:25:37 what does java -version say in the terminal? Jun 04 21:26:10 1.6.0_20 Jun 04 21:26:14 JAVA! Jun 04 21:26:17 * Mousey runs Jun 04 21:26:21 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8) (6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1) Jun 04 21:26:33 * swisstomcat throws a cheese at mousey Jun 04 21:26:39 * Mousey comes back Jun 04 21:26:43 that might be a problem, fredsa Jun 04 21:26:57 swisstomcat, I was going to ask Jun 04 21:27:11 but there's no official java package in the repo Jun 04 21:27:26 unless I hvae to add it... Jun 04 21:27:34 * fredsa goes to investigate Jun 04 21:27:55 java version "1.6.0_13" Jun 04 21:27:55 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03) Jun 04 21:27:56 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode) Jun 04 21:28:11 you have to add it as an extra third party multiverse thing, don't you ? Jun 04 21:28:14 yeah Jun 04 21:28:16 could there be a trouble with the fact that im using win7x64? Jun 04 21:28:16 i think so Jun 04 21:28:18 because it isn't completely free or something Jun 04 21:28:42 sk1tt1sh: only if you installed 32bit java Jun 04 21:28:46 I wonder if it's something i did wrong with meta-doctor Jun 04 21:28:54 well i've had successful flashes on the phone Jun 04 21:31:08 basically I added some files into nova-cust-rootfs and sprint.tar retar'd (haha) it and then ran it through metadoctor Jun 04 21:37:28 It's Alive! Jun 04 21:37:32 swisstomcat can i pipe the output from java -jar webos.jar to a text document? Jun 04 21:37:51 yeah Jun 04 21:38:14 okay cool Jun 04 21:38:22 hmmm. halfhalo_pre seems to have crashed Jun 04 21:38:26 OR not Jun 04 21:38:29 I've already got multiverse enabled but sun-java6-jre isn't available Jun 04 21:40:08 it's not available but it's referred to by another package (I'm guessing the firefox plugin) Jun 04 21:40:39 swisstomcat, was your version of 10.04 an upgrade or a clean install? Jun 04 21:41:05 clean Jun 04 21:41:40 and you just installed the sun java jre though the repos? Jun 04 21:42:07 it's in the partner repo Jun 04 21:42:17 sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner” Jun 04 21:42:24 sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts Jun 04 21:43:47 damn a full erase takes FOREVER Jun 04 21:44:22 i'm off, good night Jun 04 21:44:27 night Jun 04 21:46:50 The pink... it burns! Jun 04 21:47:31 but at least its a semi fully featured client Jun 04 21:50:56 what is? Jun 04 21:51:19 Made an irc client in node.js Jun 04 21:51:27 haha niec Jun 04 21:55:58 ok, I've installed sun-java6-jre but java -version is still reporting openjdk. How can I run the sun jre? Jun 04 21:57:38 still can't get the action thing working right Jun 04 22:07:37 ok so it looks like the "rom verifier" in the end of the webosdoc is seeing the files I added and crapping out on them Jun 04 22:07:42 uhm Jun 04 22:08:07 how do I add those files to my webos doc so it doesn't fail when it goes through verification. Jun 04 22:10:39 so basically the phone is installed correctly just the files I changed pissed off the installer. GRR! haha Jun 04 22:15:26 anyone have any idea's how to make integcheck not fail? Jun 04 22:30:53 ok, this is really pissing me off Jun 04 22:30:59 what is? Jun 04 22:31:10 trying to get this irc thing to work Jun 04 22:31:35 did you get your regex stuff working? Jun 04 22:31:45 yeah Jun 04 22:31:52 but stuck on /me Jun 04 22:32:09 I can't seem to get the encoding/format/something right Jun 04 22:32:41 pastebin? Jun 04 22:32:49 (i'm no pro, but i enjoy playing with that stuff) Jun 04 22:33:25 heh, for this I have just been sending raw commands to the server Jun 04 22:33:54 actually, let me try something Jun 04 22:35:42 what's the problem with integcheck you're having? Jun 04 22:37:06 halfhalo_class: what irc thing? Jun 04 22:37:14 irc client in node.js Jun 04 22:37:29 node.js? Jun 04 22:37:34 yeah Jun 04 22:37:44 supposed to be close to what js services will be Jun 04 22:38:13 halfhalo_class: trying to push out wirc? Jun 04 22:38:17 yup Jun 04 22:38:18 sk1tt1sh - read the script Jun 04 22:38:25 it's pretty well documented Jun 04 22:38:26 but this is only on the desktop for now Jun 04 22:39:02 halfhalo_class: some existing js irc client or something u made? Jun 04 22:39:13 wrote from pretty much scratch Jun 04 22:39:17 sk1tt1sh - run integcheck Jun 04 22:39:22 it'll print help options Jun 04 22:39:30 -a will ignore extra stuff you put on there Jun 04 22:39:38 I started out with bits an pieces from other projects but most of that is removed/redone now Jun 04 22:41:23 beelzabub read which script Jun 04 22:41:31 integcheck Jun 04 22:41:33 it's in usr/sbin Jun 04 22:41:35 no Jun 04 22:41:39 i already checked it Jun 04 22:41:59 &? did you see the -a option? Jun 04 22:42:06 I took files from a custom rom from before that was 1.3.5 Jun 04 22:42:10 yea Jun 04 22:42:16 oh Jun 04 22:42:16 but these files were in the other doc Jun 04 22:42:27 you put files from an old build & tried to put them on a new one? Jun 04 22:42:42 yes Jun 04 22:43:10 not sure why you would want to do that, but either update /md5sums, remove those lines from md5sum, or modify integcheck to always return 0 Jun 04 22:43:11 only a few though that are not really that key they're carrier specific files Jun 04 22:43:15 in that order of recommendation Jun 04 22:43:24 although overall i don't recommend putting files from an old build on a new one Jun 04 22:43:28 * nodejs-guest TestyTesty Jun 04 22:43:29 how do I update the /md5sums? Jun 04 22:43:42 And... It works! Jun 04 22:43:45 what do you mean? same way you put the old files into the doctor Jun 04 22:44:05 i'm not familiar with webos doctor & whatnot Jun 04 22:44:10 I dont know how to do md5sums for the addons Jun 04 22:44:20 are you on linux Jun 04 22:44:21 ? Jun 04 22:44:26 just run md5sum Jun 04 22:44:26 i have it on a virtualbox Jun 04 22:44:29 oh Jun 04 22:44:30 hahahahahaha Jun 04 22:44:32 rofl Jun 04 22:44:39 then modify the /md5sum file in the image Jun 04 22:44:41 linux is for people withough windows Jun 04 22:44:44 so i have the log of what failed in integcheck Jun 04 22:44:45 :p Jun 04 22:45:05 just the ones it didn't like update those md5sums and we're good? Jun 04 22:45:14 windows is for people who like to be masochists when they develop Jun 04 22:45:19 mebe Jun 04 22:45:19 yup Jun 04 22:45:36 I need to work on the terminal integration with this irc thing Jun 04 22:45:40 woot! Jun 04 22:45:40 its baaaaad Jun 04 22:45:44 thanks for the help! Jun 04 22:45:44 colorful, but bad Jun 04 22:46:16 no prob Jun 04 22:46:24 but again, i recommend not grabbing old files Jun 04 22:46:33 not sure why you are doing that Jun 04 22:46:44 it'll just cause you constant pain Jun 04 22:46:53 I'll clean up the source and post it later tonight Jun 04 22:48:06 * nodejs-guest me me me me! Jun 04 22:48:37 were those all /me's? Jun 04 22:48:45 no, just one Jun 04 22:48:57 okay, cool, so i guess you fixed it Jun 04 22:49:00 yup Jun 04 23:19:06 anyone know if it'd be possible to pass a css transition to to the wallpaper service/method? Jun 04 23:19:49 if patch the css, then i'd say yes Jun 04 23:21:17 that's what I figured, but I wasn't sure if you can access the particular css file Jun 04 23:22:01 yeah, you can basically access everything on the phone :) Jun 04 23:22:04 I know how to use the service call to it but it seems to just be an db entry from what I can tell Jun 04 23:23:22 or where the css file is that contains it, if it's not just a db entry Jun 05 00:26:23 chrisa: ? Jun 05 00:30:23 bad oil Jun 05 00:30:24 BAD Jun 05 00:30:29 ? Jun 05 01:30:45 how do u put the pre into developer mode? Jun 05 01:31:11 you type the konami code in the universal search Jun 05 01:31:19 or it's like webos06062009 or something ? Jun 05 01:31:22 you type webos20090606 into universal search Jun 05 01:31:37 in the phone browser? Jun 05 01:31:44 * zsoc facepalms Jun 05 01:31:52 google time Jun 05 01:32:07 flip, just start typing it Jun 05 01:32:10 like universal search Jun 05 01:32:20 and it will come up with a little usb icon and Developer Mode Jun 05 01:32:22 just flip it on Jun 05 01:32:25 phone will reboot Jun 05 01:32:32 you can then dance the robot Jun 05 01:33:12 type universal search Jun 05 01:33:23 and then get the patch that lets you do it from the launcher Jun 05 01:33:47 im lost not very savy Jun 05 01:33:51 although, I can't actually recall ever taking my Pre out of dev mode, once I turned it on Jun 05 01:33:56 flip_: do you know what universal search is ? Jun 05 01:34:03 no Jun 05 01:34:09 do you have a pre or pixi ? Jun 05 01:34:13 pre Jun 05 01:34:19 do you have anything running ? Jun 05 01:34:30 at the moment no Jun 05 01:34:39 so just start typing on the keyboard Jun 05 01:34:45 webos06062009 Jun 05 01:35:01 it will bring up the launcher .. and it will narrow your options down Jun 05 01:35:07 bpadalino: webos20090606 Jun 05 01:35:09 you did it backwards Jun 05 01:35:13 oh whoops Jun 05 01:35:16 listen to zsoc Jun 05 01:35:19 he is much smarter than i am Jun 05 01:35:47 sweet Jun 05 01:36:05 so then just click on the enabler Jun 05 01:36:07 yep Jun 05 01:36:10 your phone should reboot Jun 05 01:36:15 and dev mode should be enabled Jun 05 01:36:32 just did Jun 05 01:36:39 flip_: i recommend http://www.webos-internals.org/ Jun 05 01:36:42 lots of good information Jun 05 01:37:09 is preware the best thing to install for patches and what not Jun 05 01:37:17 yes Jun 05 01:37:41 sweet thanx Jun 05 01:38:03 I would give a more nuanced answer, but the bottom line is: yes Jun 05 01:38:07 you're welcome Jun 05 01:38:18 flip_: how long have you had your pre and which carrier ? Jun 05 01:39:06 sprint about 7 months but i just barley got a laptop Jun 05 01:39:15 interesting Jun 05 01:39:35 how so Jun 05 01:39:58 just surprising this is the first time you're trying preware or homebrew on the pre Jun 05 01:40:05 what made you decide to do it now ? Jun 05 01:40:42 seen sum of the features u can add and i was trying to find the flashplayer i been hearin about Jun 05 01:41:44 so what does being in developer mode do for ur pre Jun 05 01:42:34 after add ons does it need 2 b turned off or before u do updates Jun 05 01:42:53 nope .. you can keep your phone in developer mode the whole time Jun 05 01:43:00 it gives you commandline access over usb Jun 05 01:43:10 which you can then use to do all sorts of cool stuff Jun 05 01:43:31 like what Jun 05 01:43:44 whats commandline access Jun 05 01:44:25 like a linux prompt Jun 05 01:44:38 u lost me Jun 05 01:45:12 it's ok Jun 05 01:45:30 it lets you interact with the operating system directly, rather than through the normal interface Jun 05 01:45:39 bpadalino lost himself as well Jun 05 01:45:42 :p Jun 05 01:45:46 indeed Jun 05 01:46:11 so now to install my preware how do i run web os quick install - from phone browser or sumthin Jun 05 01:46:40 bah Jun 05 01:46:44 screw ncurses Jun 05 01:47:58 halfhalo: ncurses don't like you either Jun 05 01:48:29 I can live with that Jun 05 01:49:24 wawaaaaaa Jun 05 01:50:44 Its not pretty, but by god its a js irc client Jun 05 01:50:51 this sites telling me to run web os quick install Jun 05 01:50:55 how i do that Jun 05 01:50:57 ?? Jun 05 01:51:59 nebody? Jun 05 01:52:05 oh, it's documented there .. just need to follow links and read some more Jun 05 01:52:31 * halfhalo is not allowed to help. Not after the last time, anyways Jun 05 01:52:49 its just s brief pinpoint list of installing preware Jun 05 01:53:57 what happened the last time ? Jun 05 01:54:17 preware is no longer in my quick install HELP !!! Jun 05 01:54:29 oh noes Jun 05 01:54:43 how u get quick install Jun 05 01:54:47 i don't think it's so much suppose to be /in/ your quick install Jun 05 01:54:54 there's not really enough room in there Jun 05 01:55:04 i'm in your quick installs, installing preware quickly Jun 05 01:55:21 http://pastebin.com/W9QLXasz Jun 05 01:55:30 well where can i download it from ? Jun 05 01:55:54 you can down it /with/ quickinstall Jun 05 01:56:02 thats the actual irc connecting class Jun 05 01:56:05 but its not there . Jun 05 01:57:19 flip_: have you seen: http://install.preware.org ? Jun 05 01:58:29 im lookin at it now but im still lost i dont understand what its talkin about Jun 05 01:59:11 is the downloading done from my phone or the computer Jun 05 02:00:04 use the computer to install preware while phone is in dev mode .. Jun 05 02:00:13 is the webos quick instal something i access on my phone Jun 05 02:00:15 use preware, once installed, to install other software Jun 05 02:00:33 * halfhalo needs to set up git Jun 05 02:00:45 with a usb correct Jun 05 02:01:27 that site at the top of the page that u also mentioned has a link that will install this program on my computer Jun 05 02:02:15 halfhalo: you need a repo for your open source node.js irc client? Jun 05 02:02:27 yeah Jun 05 02:03:01 halfhalo: hey, I just had a thought Jun 05 02:03:13 thats never a good sign... Jun 05 02:03:15 :p Jun 05 02:03:22 halfhalo: the palm guys have a github open source webos area - I reckon they'd love to have a node.js example there Jun 05 02:03:35 since it'll be a fully supported thing soon Jun 05 02:03:37 yeah, yeah, thats what I'm doing now Jun 05 02:03:54 you can be the javascript services poster dude Jun 05 02:04:09 get interviewed by Palm and stuff Jun 05 02:04:35 why is this so difficult cant sumbody instruct me how 2 do this please... Jun 05 02:04:35 "this halfhalo guy was able to use webOS javascript services to implement an IRC client in just under a day" Jun 05 02:04:45 its a sexy client Jun 05 02:04:47 with colours Jun 05 02:04:56 flip_: what google search terms have you tried so far? Jun 05 02:04:58 flip_: those directions at http://install.preware.org are pretty straight forward.. :( Jun 05 02:05:24 INFO: Customization: sh: /sbin/start: not found --- error from webosdoctor. The link is present, is this just a typical error from it? Jun 05 02:05:52 i click the web os quick install link and it just keeps sending me to other pages of info.. i just want 2 run the quick install Jun 05 02:06:11 sk1tt1sh: BTW, the meta-doctor makefile shows exactly how to update the md5sums files (note that there are two places you need to do each) Jun 05 02:06:20 preware precentrel Jun 05 02:06:20 I already did it Jun 05 02:06:28 thanks tho :) Jun 05 02:07:15 ok i feel kinda stupid Jun 05 02:08:21 rwhitby okay I didn't do it to both are you talking about manifest.mf? Jun 05 02:12:33 sk1tt1sh: md5sums files in the ipkg/info directory Jun 05 02:13:59 is the web os doctor really needed?? Jun 05 02:14:38 not if you have novacomd already installed Jun 05 02:15:17 dont know what that is.. i have nothing installed so far just finish upgrading my java Jun 05 02:15:27 is that better ?? Jun 05 02:16:07 should it match my phones update varsion?? Jun 05 02:16:27 have you read the documentation for webos quick install? Jun 05 02:17:00 no havent got that far just fallowing steps on another page Jun 05 02:17:46 its telling me to install the doctor b4 installing the quick installer Jun 05 02:17:50 I would suggest you read all the documentation twice before doing anything. Jun 05 02:37:36 yawn Jun 05 02:37:39 sup? Jun 05 02:37:44 how do u speak to certain people on here Jun 05 02:37:46 yknow Jun 05 02:37:57 flip__: you speak to everyone on here Jun 05 02:38:26 i know that but like right now u reponded to me and it like beeped me Jun 05 02:38:40 "/msg nick" Jun 05 02:38:45 flip__: that is a feature of your client Jun 05 02:38:54 Ah Jun 05 02:39:02 flip__: just type the person's name (most tab complete) and it will light up and/or beep them on their computer depending on their settings Jun 05 02:39:05 work was nice today .. they had a ruse to get me to show up to a meeting to celebrate my 5 years with the company Jun 05 02:39:13 bpadalino: that is awesome Jun 05 02:39:15 I know we all downloaded the new version of RadioTime, right? Right?! Jun 05 02:39:22 bpadalino: you must feel appreciated :) for my 5 years i got.. uh... hm... Jun 05 02:39:27 whats so special about it reality9110? Jun 05 02:39:27 yeah, it was nice Jun 05 02:39:42 Abyssul: Besides it being a good app? Jun 05 02:39:43 zsoc, the vp of engineering stopped by and said "what do we have here? looks like a meeting of the minds!" Jun 05 02:39:50 lots of smart people showed up Jun 05 02:39:51 plus it shows anybody here work for palm Jun 05 02:39:54 hahah acool Jun 05 02:39:57 cool Jun 05 02:40:14 yeah, i was very happy .. some people had some really nice things to say too! Jun 05 02:40:25 either way, just thought i'd share Jun 05 02:40:27 we're about to open some Patron for my (somewhat belated) one year Jun 05 02:40:36 eieio: congrats! Jun 05 02:40:40 bpadalino: well you are pretty much awesome Jun 05 02:40:47 Abyssul: Have you tried it? Jun 05 02:40:48 eieio: platinum? Jun 05 02:41:06 alas, silver Jun 05 02:41:07 zsoc: thanks! though i don't think i am that awesome .. i haven't done much at all .. especially for webos Jun 05 02:41:25 eieio: maybe you can make 2 year be platinum ;) Jun 05 02:41:26 bpadalino: you are the godfounder of root D: Jun 05 02:41:33 i thought geist was that Jun 05 02:41:37 hahaha Jun 05 02:41:43 he did all the leg work Jun 05 02:41:58 bpadalino: that's precisely why you're suppose to take the credit ;) Jun 05 02:42:03 bpadalino: where do you work? Jun 05 02:42:03 ha Jun 05 02:42:12 bpadalino: ok fine then, you haven't done anything.. but you're a really pleasant person to talk to :> Jun 05 02:42:21 eieio: http://www.rfcomm.harris.com Jun 05 02:42:28 in rochester, ny Jun 05 02:42:58 oh i see, cool Jun 05 02:43:26 i enjoy it .. it's really fun work doing signals in space Jun 05 02:43:49 especially not having a DSP background, i get to learn a bunch Jun 05 02:43:52 it's good to enjoy your work Jun 05 02:44:05 always a plus, that Jun 05 02:44:29 lol they hiring? Jun 05 02:44:48 eieio: absolutely .. are you happy with palm so far ? plan on at least a few more years if it's up to you ? Jun 05 02:45:05 projectAlarum: not sure actually .. they've never seemed to hire anyone i interviewed and liked Jun 05 02:46:00 lol that's the way it always seems, I'm in CO anyways Jun 05 02:46:25 ah, rochester, ny isn't a really hip place to be .. but it's cheap, and the home to eastman kodak .. Jun 05 02:46:40 so we get some neat movie stuff here Jun 05 02:46:43 bpadalino: yeah, palm's great. there have been ups and downs, of course Jun 05 02:47:19 bpadalino: but i expect i'll be sticking around for a while Jun 05 02:48:24 that's cool.. i kinda like ups and downs simply to get some dynamic range .. so you can really appreciate the good times Jun 05 02:48:35 eieio: is it nose to the grindstone now during the summer months ? Jun 05 02:51:09 lately it varies from week to week. there's plenty of work to be done, but nothing insane or unpleasant Jun 05 02:52:29 eieio: You're at Palm? Jun 05 02:52:30 im trying to install the web os quick install now but it wont bring up my phone in the launcher Jun 05 02:53:50 <+bpadalino>= bro in the install page wont register my device Jun 05 02:53:56 eieio: that sounds good .. do you have pretty good middle management there - hands off and just helps when they can? or is it just a lot of engineers ? Jun 05 02:54:10 flip__: i am sorry, i can't help with this part .. i am not very familiar :( Jun 05 02:54:23 reality9110: yes Jun 05 02:54:25 k Jun 05 02:54:56 flip, what are you trying to do? Jun 05 02:55:14 eieio: Do you know who/what team is handling audio implementation? Jun 05 02:55:30 bpadalino: generally yes. there are a lot of teams, so i expect there is some variance in the management, but the people above me have been pretty good Jun 05 02:56:18 that's good to know .. which team are you on ? Jun 05 02:56:23 do you work with geist and chrisa ? Jun 05 02:57:01 reality9110: i'm not sure what you mean by 'audio implementation', but anything API related or below generally goes through engineering Jun 05 02:57:07 i'm on the kernel team. yep, i work with both of them. i actually sit within sight of chrisa Jun 05 02:57:10 i think there's a 'media' group Jun 05 02:57:39 zsoc: Need some additional features in gstreamer. Need access to metadata Jun 05 02:57:55 eieio: cool .. interesting the low level guys like to hang out in #webos-internals Jun 05 02:58:12 reality9110: well, that was possible before 1.4.0 Jun 05 02:58:25 zsoc: Do share... Jun 05 02:58:51 reality9110: it's not really now.. with the gst-ffmpeg switch.. but anyways, you can't link to gstreamer shared lib for pdk apps anyway, so it doesn't matter Jun 05 02:59:03 eieio: so you're breaking out the patron tonight ? Jun 05 02:59:20 zsoc: Which is why I'd like to see it exposed in the API **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 05 02:59:57 2010