**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 27 02:59:56 2010
Jun 27 03:53:55 <Robi_> so can one launch apps with a key combo?
Jun 27 03:54:44 <Tman> it's not a feature and I don't know of anything that lets you do that, but you can type part of the name and it will come up in universal search
Jun 27 03:55:17 <Tman> I'm sure it would be possible to make a patch to do it however
Jun 27 04:19:56 <jhojho> Templarian: ping
Jun 27 04:20:41 <Templarian> pong jh
Jun 27 04:20:45 <Templarian> jhojho: *
Jun 27 04:21:20 <jhojho> do you have any time to make an icon for nginx. i'm packaging up for webos internals
Jun 27 04:21:45 <rwhitby> jhojho: BTW, the i686g25 feed should be up to date now
Jun 27 04:21:54 <jhojho> maybe something simple, with an image of say an engine
Jun 27 04:22:06 <jhojho> rwhitby: thanks
Jun 27 04:22:10 <jhojho> i tried
Jun 27 04:22:21 <jhojho> and it seems to pack up but I need to fix a couple things
Jun 27 04:22:21 <Templarian> jhojho: http://nginx.org/ <- like a letter out of that?
Jun 27 04:22:38 <jhojho> yes
Jun 27 04:22:57 <jhojho> or even just a webos icon sized version of it
Jun 27 04:23:17 <jhojho> then i'll need victims^H^H^H^H^Htesters
Jun 27 04:24:50 <jhojho> pls
Jun 27 04:37:58 <halfhalo> PIE
Jun 27 04:38:14 <halfhalo> jhojho: Saw the link.  Nice
Jun 27 04:38:28 <jhojho> ?
Jun 27 04:38:40 <halfhalo> git notifier or whatevs
Jun 27 04:39:15 <jhojho> ah
Jun 27 04:39:20 <halfhalo> God, I'm so out of it right now…. Stupid html website
Jun 27 04:39:23 <jhojho> better or worse?
Jun 27 04:39:27 <halfhalo> better
Jun 27 04:39:34 <halfhalo> mine was really simple
Jun 27 04:39:45 <jhojho> I want one that works when I'm plugged in via power cord and not when i'm on batt.
Jun 27 04:40:01 <halfhalo> its os.  make your own
Jun 27 04:40:24 <jhojho> nah. I dont want one that bad =P
Jun 27 04:40:29 <halfhalo> lol
Jun 27 04:40:36 <jhojho> too bad it's not pubsub
Jun 27 04:40:46 <jhojho> this would be perfect for a pubsub solution
Jun 27 04:40:55 <halfhalo> I hate people who think that websites are just giant images
Jun 27 04:41:29 <jhojho> heck if the mojo messaging framework was avail.. imagine getting git commits on your phone when they happen =)
Jun 27 04:41:48 <halfhalo> can happen  nowish using websockets
Jun 27 04:42:16 <kevank> Hey all.
Jun 27 04:42:28 <halfhalo> no se ingles
Jun 27 04:42:28 <jhojho> true. but webos browser does not support websockets no?
Jun 27 04:42:42 <jhojho> halfhalo: what's the url agaiin? I switched computers and lost it
Jun 27 04:42:51 <halfhalo> no, but it does support long polling
Jun 27 04:43:24 <halfhalo> link is on my other comp as well… :p
Jun 27 04:43:36 <halfhalo> vmware needs to not be down
Jun 27 04:43:49 <kevank> Working on a custom kernel compile and I would like to apply a diff from the kernel project git and I have a couple of issues.  I tried doing a patch -p0  and piping in the diff from git, I have errors.  If there a better way to apply the kernel project patches/diff to my kernel source?
Jun 27 04:43:51 <halfhalo> I want to download fusion so I can set up an ubuntu vm for a local git server
Jun 27 04:44:12 <jhojho> halfhalo: /msg it to me when you get a chance please
Jun 27 04:44:16 <jhojho> patch -p1
Jun 27 04:44:40 <jhojho> and depending on the patch, it may fail if you apply out of sequence
Jun 27 04:44:42 <halfhalo> That will be…. monday?  Its on my work comp
Jun 27 04:44:44 <jhojho> or try to mix
Jun 27 04:44:53 <jhojho> halfhalo:  no worries, I dont need it right now
Jun 27 04:44:55 <halfhalo> wait....
Jun 27 04:45:05 <halfhalo> weave synced my history
Jun 27 04:45:12 <halfhalo> http://github.com/marcocampana/git-notifier
Jun 27 04:47:21 <jhojho> rwhitby: okay. nginx built
Jun 27 04:47:26 <kevank> What I would like to do it patch my kernel source up to 1.4.1-47.  Is there a "preferred" way to patch up to that level?
Jun 27 04:47:39 <jhojho> how do I tickle/tag things
Jun 27 04:47:50 <jhojho> kevank: depends on what you are trying to do
Jun 27 04:47:58 <jhojho> and you dont say which kernel you are trying to follow
Jun 27 04:47:59 <halfhalo> ummmmm
Jun 27 04:48:01 <halfhalo> hmmm
Jun 27 04:48:08 <halfhalo> adium is acting...weird
Jun 27 04:48:33 <jhojho> 1.4.1-47 means nothing. it just means a state of patches avail at the -47 stage
Jun 27 04:48:39 <halfhalo> It wont let me move the chat window to my main monitor all the way
Jun 27 04:49:04 <halfhalo> it just moves it back to be on both monitors...
Jun 27 04:49:33 <halfhalo> testtestonetwoonetwo
Jun 27 04:49:43 <kevank> I've written a custom govener and I would prefer to test it on unixpsychos 105 kernel.
Jun 27 04:50:54 <jhojho> here's what I would do
Jun 27 04:51:14 <jhojho> check out  preware/build and kernel/patches
Jun 27 04:51:26 <jhojho> set up your env
Jun 27 04:51:27 <halfhalo> We know what you would do…. And the kitties hate you for it
Jun 27 04:51:40 <jhojho> pffft
Jun 27 04:52:04 <jhojho> copy testing-kernels/f105* to nonworking/whatever-your-kernel
Jun 27 04:52:05 <kevank> I am able to successfully build and boot a compiled kernel.
Jun 27 04:52:19 <jhojho> edit that makefile and add your patch
Jun 27 04:52:26 <kevank> ok.  I can do that.
Jun 27 04:52:33 <jhojho> that way you should get a bunch of ipkgs
Jun 27 04:52:40 <jhojho> in that directory
Jun 27 04:52:54 <jhojho> egaudet added some git magic
Jun 27 04:53:28 <jhojho> if you commit your governor to kernel/patches  say kevankbuild/*
Jun 27 04:53:48 <jhojho> then in the build/nonworking/whatever-your-kernel dir
Jun 27 04:53:54 <jhojho> you can do    make head
Jun 27 04:54:02 <jhojho> it it *should* do the right thing
Jun 27 04:55:00 <jhojho> and I would also delete halfhalo
Jun 27 04:55:03 <halfhalo> My new vid card needs to be here now
Jun 27 04:55:03 <jhojho> =P
Jun 27 04:55:17 <halfhalo> Psh, you can't delete me
Jun 27 04:55:20 <halfhalo> im to sexy
Jun 27 04:55:24 <jhojho> dang mac mouse jumping around. wth
Jun 27 04:55:27 <jhojho> i'm not going there.
Jun 27 04:55:37 <halfhalo> EXACTLY
Jun 27 04:56:10 <halfhalo> Ordered a 5850 yesterday…. so I can finally play games on my desktop again
Jun 27 04:56:11 * jhojho waits around for rwhitby to show up to show how to get a preware package for testing in the feeds
Jun 27 04:56:22 <halfhalo> without it melting
Jun 27 04:56:41 <jhojho> once that's tested and a new icon, we should have nginx capability on the pre
Jun 27 04:57:03 <halfhalo> nginx is for pansies and people who like webservers
Jun 27 04:57:27 <kevank> Thanks for the help.  I will get started.
Jun 27 04:57:35 <jhojho> halfhalo: blasphemy
Jun 27 04:57:53 <halfhalo> bless you
Jun 27 04:57:58 <jhojho> you will probably tell me you like apache next
Jun 27 04:58:09 <jhojho> I guess we could go for ridiculous and get varnish on the pre
Jun 27 04:58:11 <jhojho> lol
Jun 27 04:58:33 <halfhalo> i prefer iis
Jun 27 04:58:36 <halfhalo> :p
Jun 27 04:58:46 <jhojho> we could build a redundant array of inexpensive pres
Jun 27 04:59:02 <jhojho> except that acronym is a nono
Jun 27 04:59:14 <halfhalo> Your a nono
Jun 27 04:59:25 <jhojho> feeling feisty tonight
Jun 27 04:59:27 <jhojho> ?
Jun 27 04:59:43 <halfhalo> yes
Jun 27 04:59:54 <halfhalo> working on updating this website
Jun 27 05:00:07 <halfhalo> but its hand coded html pages filled with images
Jun 27 05:00:13 <jhojho> delete
Jun 27 05:00:24 <halfhalo> i wish i could
Jun 27 05:00:29 <jhojho> do it in dreamweaver
Jun 27 05:01:11 <halfhalo> on a mac, so using textmate
Jun 27 05:03:29 <halfhalo> oh god...
Jun 27 05:04:31 <halfhalo> DIESITEDIE
Jun 27 05:09:48 <Tman> hrm anyone know if PDK apps can use palm standard icons?
Jun 27 05:10:11 <halfhalo> I'm going to kill my boss for making this site
Jun 27 05:11:26 <jhojho> bbl
Jun 27 05:11:54 <halfhalo> I need a third monitor
Jun 27 05:20:49 <Robi_> hah just setting up picture mail
Jun 27 05:41:22 <Robi_> anyone else use picture mail?
Jun 27 05:41:33 * Robi_ wonders why it's not integrated into webos
Jun 27 05:51:29 <HattCzech> i do, and it is
Jun 27 05:51:41 <HattCzech> mms? or something different?
Jun 27 05:53:30 <jhowirc> oo oo nginx avail now on preware
Jun 27 05:53:44 <HattCzech> i just saw that
Jun 27 05:53:49 <HattCzech> what exactly is it?
Jun 27 05:54:11 <HattCzech> (let me rephrase.. what is the purpose?)
Jun 27 05:55:54 <jhowirc> no point
Jun 27 05:56:26 <jhowirc> there's lighttpd avail. but I don't use lighttpd..... so.
Jun 27 06:00:08 <jhowirc> you can use your pre to host a web site I guess
Jun 27 06:01:09 <HattCzech> pfft, okay
Jun 27 06:01:17 <HattCzech> that'd be one POWERFUL web server ;)
Jun 27 06:16:55 <halfhalo> One page down....
Jun 27 06:17:35 <rwhitby> jhojho: hi
Jun 27 06:20:52 <halfhalo> every time this site is viewed, god kills a kitten.  it is what bad
Jun 27 06:28:51 <halfhalo> oh, look, another kitten died
Jun 27 06:36:26 <mikePre> anyone know where the preware saved package list is stored?
Jun 27 06:37:03 <Gollyzila> I have a question, possible bug, regarding F105 thunderchief kernel and the compcache memlimit. Can anyone be of assistance?
Jun 27 06:39:20 <Gollyzila> mikePre: try using Save/Restore to save the package list and then view the contents of it in USB mode.
Jun 27 06:41:27 <mikePre> i tried that, sav/restore has it as binary file it looks like....i have over 300 apps/patches and Preware is only reporting 140 or so, ran the Emrgency Reconstruction Utility and that didnt help
Jun 27 06:41:35 <Gollyzila> The problem I'm experiencing is that I change the memlimit from 64 MB to 16MB but when I press Apply Settings the memlimit value switches back to 64MB.
Jun 27 06:41:45 <Gollyzila> Is this by default?
Jun 27 06:41:51 <mikePre> so I am trying to find any app that is on my pre but not being reported in Preware to se what is different
Jun 27 06:43:02 <Gollyzila> mikePre: which app is it that you're talking about?
Jun 27 06:45:58 <rwhitby> Gollyzila: you need to disable compcache to change the memlimit
Jun 27 06:46:19 <rwhitby> you can't change wheel size on a moving car
Jun 27 06:46:37 <halfhalo> Is that a challenge?
Jun 27 06:46:41 <halfhalo> :p
Jun 27 06:46:54 <Gollyzila> Chuck norris can. he's just not here to do it for me.
Jun 27 06:47:01 <halfhalo> FINALLY the vmware site is working again
Jun 27 06:47:36 <Gollyzila> rwhitby: disable compcache, apply settings, change value, enable compcache, apply settings?
Jun 27 06:51:16 <rwhitby> yep
Jun 27 06:52:46 <rwhitby> jhojho: the comments in warthog 8 slot need fixing
Jun 27 06:52:59 <rwhitby> jhojho: 7 and 8 are 1.42V, not 1.35V
Jun 27 06:54:39 <Gollyzila> In govnah main scene, the Profile and Governor are shown as •••
Jun 27 06:55:23 <halfhalo> I should really metadoctor…. but effort!
Jun 27 06:55:29 <halfhalo> And I need to restart
Jun 27 06:55:34 <halfhalo> no growl is making me mad
Jun 27 06:55:35 <Gollyzila> Reopening govnah fixes it
Jun 27 06:57:08 <HattCzech> night all
Jun 27 06:57:48 <rwhitby> Gollyzila: I'm not following you. if you're reporting a problem, please give a proper problem report.
Jun 27 07:00:10 <Gollyzila> rwhitby: Sorry. It has been two times where my phone is running slow, I open Govnah, and on the right of Profile and the right of Governor there are ••• in the place a  profile and governor name.
Jun 27 07:00:38 <rwhitby> please start with the versions of kernel and govnah you're running
Jun 27 07:01:41 <Gollyzila> rwhitby: I am running F105 Thunderchief kernel and Govnah v0.4.16
Jun 27 07:02:08 <rwhitby> ok, it only has screenstate governor compiled in
Jun 27 07:03:29 <Gollyzila> Usually it would show the governor as Screnstate, but I don't know why it didn't for those two occasions.
Jun 27 07:03:58 <rwhitby> is the device running slow with lots of swap in use
Jun 27 07:04:47 <Gollyzila> During those times, I noticed swap was above 100
Jun 27 07:05:35 <rwhitby> swap above 100!!
Jun 27 07:05:51 <rwhitby> no wonder.  your device is thrashing.
Jun 27 07:06:19 <rwhitby> you're probably missing phone calls as well
Jun 27 07:06:23 <Gollyzila> Yup. Right now it's at 90 And I only have govnah and this wIRC card open.
Jun 27 07:06:37 <rwhitby> what's ram at?
Jun 27 07:07:03 <Gollyzila> The memory portion in Govnah? 236.
Jun 27 07:07:38 <rwhitby> you've got a memory leak then if you only have govnah and wirc open
Jun 27 07:08:35 <Gollyzila> I had a few browser windows, a private wIRC chat card, and NewsRoom open. I'm guessing it's the browser that was leaking
Jun 27 07:08:44 <rwhitby> what has happened is that Govnah needs to poll the linux service to get the current values and match against a profile to set the profile name.  your device is so overloaded that it doesn't get the response.
Jun 27 07:09:13 <Gollyzila> That makes sense. Poor phone.
Jun 27 07:11:37 <Gollyzila> What can I do to remedy the leak and clear the swap memory?
Jun 27 07:12:29 <mikePre> just  upgraded to SAve/Restore 0.9.1, and its not showing my previously stored data....does 0.9.1 no longer support the backups made on earlier releases?
Jun 27 07:13:12 <Gollyzila> mikePre: I believe not. It now zips up the saved data
Jun 27 07:14:13 <Gollyzila> mikePre: I may be mistaken about it not supporting your previous backups
Jun 27 07:17:04 <Gollyzila> rwhitby: A luna restart should get rid of the memory leak and clear the swap?
Jun 27 07:19:29 <Gollyzila> Okay I'm going to luna restart. My phone's CPU temp is hitting 50°C
Jun 27 07:22:49 <rwhitby> no wonder if it's thrashing
Jun 27 07:23:19 <Gollyzila2> Swap is now at 50 after the restart
Jun 27 07:23:49 <rwhitby> you should reboot the device
Jun 27 07:24:21 <Gollyzila2> Will do.
Jun 27 07:30:41 <Gollyzila> Memory/Swap is now at 216/28
Jun 27 07:31:58 <Gollyzila> And temp is roughly around 42°C
Jun 27 07:34:40 <Gollyzila> The only way to lower the swap is by throwing away cards?
Jun 27 07:35:32 <ka6sox> or find the memory leak
Jun 27 07:37:52 <Gollyzila> ka6sox3: I'm pretty sure it was the browser.
Jun 27 07:38:23 <ka6sox> how many cards did you have?
Jun 27 07:39:12 <Gollyzila> I had 6 open, including 2 brower cards
Jun 27 07:40:55 <ka6sox> that doesn't sound like a lot..I've had 30 open before.
Jun 27 07:41:46 <Gollyzila> It was probably the browser having a memory leak
Jun 27 07:43:03 <ka6sox> have you had this problem on other kernels?
Jun 27 07:44:13 <Gollyzila> Probably, but at that time I wasn't aware of what Swap memory was.
Jun 27 12:06:12 <kirbz\irssi_> I need to Doctor my phone, but my device is not listed as having a WebOS Doctor version
Jun 27 12:06:16 <kirbz\irssi_> It's a UK GSM Pre Plus
Jun 27 12:06:42 <kirbz\irssi_> WebOS Internals page only links to the original Pre (which is incompatible) and the Pixi Plus
Jun 27 12:17:26 <rwhitby> kirbz\irssi_: which page are you looking at?
Jun 27 12:18:57 <kirbz\irssi_> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions
Jun 27 12:19:03 <rwhitby> kirbz\irssi_: go to palm.com/rom and put in your serial number.  get the .jnlp file and open it in a text editor.  Put the URL it contains on that page.
Jun 27 12:19:54 <kirbz\irssi_> rwhitby: Just figured that out also :) Thanks. I will update the page (once I've figured out how to use the Wiki - first time :P)
Jun 27 12:21:27 <rwhitby> kirbz\irssi_: or /msg me your serial number and I'll do the rest for you
Jun 27 16:24:40 <wusaint> my battery life has gotten really bad with the newest update of Warthog. Has anyone else had this?
Jun 27 17:25:03 <HattCzech_sleep> rwhitby: how often do the preware feeds get updated on the server?
Jun 27 17:26:42 <Templarian> jhojho: is that nginx an application or what?
Jun 27 17:37:12 <jhowirc> Templarian: yes. it's packaged up like lighttpd
Jun 27 17:40:35 <Templarian> jhowirc: so what ice base should it be using? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Icons
Jun 27 17:42:38 <jhowirc> under webso-internals icons I guess (since that's where lighttpd is too)
Jun 27 17:46:06 <Templarian> So a penguin?
Jun 27 17:54:35 <jhowirc> penguin in the lower right light dropbear?
Jun 27 17:54:49 <Templarian> yep.
Jun 27 17:55:02 <jhowirc> and just the text "nginx" like the web site?
Jun 27 17:55:17 <Templarian> Yea...
Jun 27 17:55:33 <jhowirc> that or a picture of an engine
Jun 27 17:55:45 <jhowirc> but I figure the text is easier
Jun 27 17:55:56 <jhowirc> and that should be enuff
Jun 27 18:00:28 <mikePre> anyone know what exactly preware scans to determine which Apps are installed on ur Pre?  I have about 100 apps notbeing recognized, that are in fact installed, if I re-install them, then Preware reports them as installed...
Jun 27 18:02:37 <mikePre> or possibly....if anyone knows what happens when an App is installed through an IPK install differently than a copy from a backup
Jun 27 18:04:41 <bpadalino> it uses the output of what ipkg says to determine what is installed
Jun 27 18:04:46 <bpadalino> list_installed i think
Jun 27 18:07:17 <Templarian> jhowirc: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Icons <- yep.
Jun 27 18:08:11 <jhowirc> awesome. thanks!
Jun 27 18:13:58 <mikePre> bpaladino, is that a file located on the pre, or jsut something that the ipkg sends out as a result from an install and then its gone?
Jun 27 18:28:18 <bpadalino> i don't know the inner workings of ipkg ..
Jun 27 18:28:57 <bpadalino> but using the list_installed command passed to ipkg is what preware does i am pretty sure
Jun 27 18:44:33 <swisstomcat> evening
Jun 27 19:03:25 * LarrySteeze falls into the room
Jun 27 19:04:38 <swisstomcat> whoa
Jun 27 19:04:51 <LarrySteeze> ?
Jun 27 19:04:55 <swisstomcat> WebOS running in 960x640 resolution
Jun 27 19:06:20 <bpadalino> take a screenshot
Jun 27 19:08:27 <rcube> any help? I am trying to run iwconfig command as on the wiki but I am getting an error message. I am su - and I am root. I am using terminal. I am able to run and install programs however, even compile. not sure why I get an error. http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking
Jun 27 19:09:01 <LarrySteeze> i'm a bit confused as to what usbpass is
Jun 27 19:11:06 <swisstomcat> screenshot: http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/snap03.png
Jun 27 19:11:38 <bpadalino> haha, nice
Jun 27 19:11:45 <bpadalino> what does the launcher look like ?
Jun 27 19:12:08 <rcube> error for wireless request: "set mode" set failed on device eth0 invalid argument.
Jun 27 19:12:51 <swisstomcat> lost of space in the launcher
Jun 27 19:13:10 <bpadalino> rcube: seems like maybe some wifi driver changes in the past few releases may have made that page obsolete
Jun 27 19:13:13 <LarrySteeze> swisstomcat: how/why?
Jun 27 19:13:45 <swisstomcat> larrysteeze: why: to see how my apps scale to double resolution .. how: change launch parameters in the virtualbox XML
Jun 27 19:13:59 <LarrySteeze> ah, it isn't on device
Jun 27 19:14:12 <swisstomcat> nah :(
Jun 27 19:14:14 <rcube> bpadalino: I love you. (hand-to-forehead).
Jun 27 19:14:26 <rcube> why didn't I think of that
Jun 27 19:14:35 <bpadalino> <3
Jun 27 19:14:38 * LarrySteeze wants to get voip going on my pre
Jun 27 19:15:03 <LarrySteeze> so my stupid apartment's lack of reception can be overcome by my google voice usage
Jun 27 19:15:36 <LarrySteeze> speaking of...anyone notice that google's mobile page has changed in the last week or two?
Jun 27 19:15:46 <LarrySteeze> we no longer have the iphone's pages
Jun 27 19:16:02 <rcube> LarrySteeze: there an article on pc
Jun 27 19:16:10 <LarrySteeze> pc magazine?
Jun 27 19:16:16 <LarrySteeze> oh duh
Jun 27 19:16:16 <rcube> precentral
Jun 27 19:16:19 <LarrySteeze> pre central
Jun 27 19:16:30 <LarrySteeze> when did that go up?  i must have missed it
Jun 27 19:16:33 <rcube> sorry p|c
Jun 27 19:17:03 <rcube> one,two days ago
Jun 27 19:18:30 <LarrySteeze> ah...must have missed it, will go look
Jun 27 19:19:25 <rcube> bpadalino - do you know if I can find a changelog related to wifi on pre and is anyone willing to verify that the iwconfig command is borked following: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking
Jun 27 19:19:50 <bpadalino> rcube: honestly i am not sure ..
Jun 27 19:19:56 <bpadalino> sorry
Jun 27 19:20:12 <rcube> no prb
Jun 27 19:20:36 <bpadalino> good luck
Jun 27 19:20:42 <LarrySteeze> you know...it's funy
Jun 27 19:20:42 <halfhalo> My eyes
Jun 27 19:20:44 <LarrySteeze> *funny
Jun 27 19:20:45 <halfhalo> they burn
Jun 27 19:20:56 <LarrySteeze> finally, google stopped giving me the spain site
Jun 27 19:21:09 <LarrySteeze> but now it's that dumb one
Jun 27 19:21:58 <AcKoenigs> hi there
Jun 27 19:22:11 <swisstomcat> hi
Jun 27 19:22:18 <ka6sox> Morning AcKoenigs
Jun 27 19:22:24 <swisstomcat> hi ka6sox
Jun 27 19:22:33 <ka6sox> morning swisstomcat
Jun 27 19:23:09 <ka6sox> AcKoenigs, many more people here during daylight
Jun 27 19:23:10 <rcube> bpadalino: i'd like to make sure the error is duplicated before trying something else. iwconfig is functional. it's just that the command in particular doesn't work. who can I ask from webos internals to see if they can duplicate my error?
Jun 27 19:23:47 <AcKoenigs> hehe
Jun 27 19:24:35 <AcKoenigs> I know the license for the webosdoctor-files, but is there any possibility someone could send me a webosdoctor version 1.2 over? I'm still trying to figure out my a2dp problems.
Jun 27 19:26:02 <MetaView> hi
Jun 27 19:27:27 <LarrySteeze> so...I want to get webos running on the evo :P
Jun 27 19:28:04 * rcube is hoping someone can try to duplicate his error.
Jun 27 19:28:09 <LarrySteeze> but i have neither the knowhow nor the time nor the means
Jun 27 19:28:11 <AcKoenigs> hehe, that would be great. :)
Jun 27 19:28:27 <LarrySteeze> i agree.
Jun 27 19:28:59 <LarrySteeze> unfortunately, you'd have to waste a bit of the bottom of the screen to be a 'gesture bar'
Jun 27 19:29:21 <AcKoenigs> I think the biggest problem with this is, that webos is not open source... I don't know the hardware of the evo, but in order to run webos  there, it would be necessary to be binary compatible.
Jun 27 19:29:50 <LarrySteeze> honestly, it would be like putting a star shape into a circle hole
Jun 27 19:30:14 <rcube> who are good people to whois that work on the w-int wiki?
Jun 27 19:30:18 <LarrySteeze> there are hardware compatibility issues as well as boot issues
Jun 27 19:31:28 <rcube> someone named Robi. ... is this robert werlinger (sp?) ?
Jun 27 19:32:30 <LarrySteeze> ;-)
Jun 27 19:34:49 <LarrySteeze> i wonder if google really DOES have any underlying issues with palm
Jun 27 19:35:20 <rcube> Robi_: if you are looking at this log, can you PM me rkguy @ precentral; probs with iwconfig wiki page.
Jun 27 19:38:30 <AcKoenigs> HP/Palm is just another big player wanting to get big in smartphones / tablet business. Of course google, apple and microsoft won't be that nice to them anymore. ;)
Jun 27 19:39:46 <LarrySteeze> google wasn't really nice in the first place
Jun 27 19:39:55 <rcube> AcKoenigs: still, I wonder why google wouldn't want the added ad revenue. I suppose they assume we'll keep using their search.
Jun 27 19:40:18 <LarrySteeze> palm expressed interest in having google voice fully integraed
Jun 27 19:40:22 <LarrySteeze> *integrated
Jun 27 19:40:30 <LarrySteeze> and google basically said "we never said that"
Jun 27 19:40:45 <LarrySteeze> and that was about a year go
Jun 27 19:40:47 <LarrySteeze> *ago
Jun 27 19:41:56 <AcKoenigs> yeah, I can't really understand that, neither. Palm is really nice to google, they allow syncing of contacts, e-mail, calendar with google and provide a lot of user data and some user accounts in this way. Most Palm users most probably are google users, too... it's strange.
Jun 27 19:42:03 * rcube tries webcrawler :P
Jun 27 19:42:59 <LarrySteeze> that's what i'm saying
Jun 27 19:43:03 <LarrySteeze> lol...webcrawler
Jun 27 19:43:08 <LarrySteeze> may as well use excite
Jun 27 19:43:35 <LarrySteeze> (which, by the way, was better than yahoo before yahoo won the search war....until google beat yahoo)
Jun 27 19:44:14 <LarrySteeze> so ackoenigs, are you familiar with usbpassthrough?
Jun 27 19:48:52 <AcKoenigs> I'm not really sure what you mean by usbpassthrough... I'm really new to palm... I own my Palm Pre Plus for a bit over a week now. :)
Jun 27 19:49:12 <LarrySteeze> ah, nm :P
Jun 27 19:49:26 <LarrySteeze> i figured it out anyways
Jun 27 19:49:42 <LarrySteeze> i'd forgotten it was my MSL i had to type in
Jun 27 20:04:25 <LarrySteeze> having troubles, torchie?
Jun 27 20:04:53 <LarrySteeze> anyone have a gizmo5 account they don't use?
Jun 27 20:08:31 <jhogsm> shoot I want an unused gizmo5 acct too
Jun 27 20:11:29 <LarrySteeze> tell me about i
Jun 27 20:11:30 <LarrySteeze> t
Jun 27 20:11:59 <LarrySteeze> i considered signing up for it a few times over
Jun 27 20:39:41 <AcKoenigs> bye all
Jun 27 21:04:40 <jhoweb> ka6sox I just recompiled linpack.pixi and dumped into dropbox
Jun 27 21:05:15 <jhoweb> it would be very surprising that it is slower since all that has changed is the debug code being config'd out
Jun 27 21:05:53 <ka6sox> jhoweb, I agree...
Jun 27 21:16:15 <jhoweb> ka6sox: you got to test out nginx for me too =)
Jun 27 21:28:47 <Garage> with the 1ghz overclock, do you ned a particular version of govnah?
Jun 27 21:28:51 <Garage> need*
Jun 27 21:31:08 <LarrySteeze> how much battery loss have people noticed with overclocking?
Jun 27 21:32:54 <gollyzila|comp> Im not sure it's due to overclocking, but i usually get above 6% per hour while the phone is sleeping @500 MHz
Jun 27 21:33:01 <gollyzila|comp> with just wifi on
Jun 27 21:35:10 <LarrySteeze> hm
Jun 27 21:35:18 <LarrySteeze> just wifi, aka no cellular radio?
Jun 27 21:36:19 * LarrySteeze hates windows :-\
Jun 27 21:54:22 <TheInvsbleMan> Anyone know how to get ahold of egaudet? I'm having some issues the the virtual keyboard
Jun 27 21:54:36 <TheInvsbleMan> with the*
Jun 27 21:58:38 <mikePre> anyone know how to regenerate the com.mycompany.answers.pmmanifest and com.mycompany.answers.list files for apps, the files are located in /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info
Jun 27 21:59:07 <mikePre> i need to get the .pnmanifest and .list files created for apps that are missing them at this point so preware can find them
Jun 27 22:30:33 <rwhitby> mikePre: use the emergency reconstruction utility
Jun 28 00:33:17 <jhoweb> "main: Error reading from signal pipe: 35"  anyone seen this before while connected via novaterm to their pre or pixi?
Jun 28 00:42:43 <rwhitby> Anyone got any problems with Govnah 0.4.17 going to public release?
Jun 28 00:50:20 <rwhitby> Govnah 0.5.0 release candidate is now in the testing feed.
Jun 28 01:14:04 <Kyusaku> I gotta figure out how to recreate it but sometimes my device locks up when throwing away cards(apps)
Jun 28 01:14:33 <Kyusaku> I gotta figure out how to recreate the issue exactly
Jun 28 01:17:32 <alcane> i have an AT&T Palm Pixi Plus. 'Package Manager Service' isn't showing up in the webOS quick install program. Thoughts?
Jun 28 01:19:41 <alcane> nm
Jun 28 02:55:23 <WebOS> Can anyone help me with looping my in app html5 video with javascript?
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