**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 05 02:59:58 2010
Jul 05 03:18:40 <darronb> hey, can someone try a command out on their phone for me?    "gst-launch camsrc name=cs   cs.src ! queue ! palmvideoencoder ! palmmpeg4mux name=mx location="/media/internal/test2.mp4" title="t" description="d"    alsasrc ! queue ! palmaudioencoder ! mx.sinkAudio"
Jul 05 03:21:41 <darronb> can someone try out a command for me on their phone?  "gst-launch camsrc name=cs   cs.src ! queue ! palmvideoencoder ! palmmpeg4mux name=mx location="/media/internal/test2.mp4" title="t" description="d"   alsasrc ! queue ! palmaudioencoder ! mx.sinkAudio"
Jul 05 03:22:07 <darronb> oops, don't need the queue part:  "gst-launch camsrc name=cs   cs.src ! palmvideoencoder ! palmmpeg4mux name=mx location="/media/internal/test2.mp4" title="t" description="d"   alsasrc ! palmaudioencoder ! mx.sinkAudio"
Jul 05 03:23:13 <RagingMind> just recording from the cam?
Jul 05 03:23:35 <darronb> just trying to come up with something that works...  I'm starting to wonder if it's just my phone that's messed up
Jul 05 03:23:53 <darronb> yeah, ultimately trying to get video into an app
Jul 05 03:24:19 <RagingMind> aren't there official known working ways provided by palm?
Jul 05 03:24:48 <darronb> well, the only thing in the SDK seems to be to launch the camera app
Jul 05 03:25:12 <darronb> (I might be missing something)
Jul 05 03:26:02 <RagingMind> it failed on my phone too
Jul 05 03:26:19 <darronb> gst-launch caught a exception?
Jul 05 03:26:25 <darronb> s/a/an
Jul 05 03:26:52 <RagingMind> infobot, pastbin?
Jul 05 03:27:09 <RagingMind> oops
Jul 05 03:27:16 <RagingMind> might help if I could spell
Jul 05 03:28:40 <RagingMind> darronb, http://lug.mtu.edu/pastebin/199
Jul 05 03:28:46 <darronb> here's what I get :  http://pastebin.com/niPx2e20
Jul 05 03:28:55 <darronb> yup, same
Jul 05 03:29:15 <darronb> well, at least I know that doctoring my phone is unlikely to help.  :)
Jul 05 03:30:53 <darronb> ragingmind: thanks, btw.  )
Jul 05 03:30:55 <darronb> :)
Jul 05 03:31:45 <darronb> ragingmind: have you heard of a known working way to do this?   ...  besides just launching the camera app?
Jul 05 03:32:32 <RagingMind> Nope...
Jul 05 03:32:41 <RagingMind> but I've never specifically looked into it
Jul 05 03:40:02 <cryptk> happy 4th!
Jul 05 03:49:19 <Kartog_> would anyone know why my webos quickinstall isn't working properly? I have the gui and can add files to it, but I can't do things like actually install, go to options, etc.
Jul 05 03:51:44 <Kartog_> well that's disappointing
Jul 05 03:57:21 <egaudet> maybe try to contact the QI developer, or just use Preware ;)
Jul 05 04:06:12 <Kartog_> I was trying to install Preware using webos quick install
Jul 05 06:04:30 <dtzWill> Tman: GL with your arch changes, reading your logs on your branch :)
Jul 05 06:06:10 <swisstomcat> morning
Jul 05 06:07:25 <dtzWill> swisstomcat: morning :)
Jul 05 06:08:48 * Mercury pokes at Sprint.
Jul 05 06:45:11 <jhoplus> too many pres. getting confused
Jul 05 07:06:55 <rwhitby> dtzWill: I'm hoping to somehow merge build.git and cross-compile.git
Jul 05 07:07:22 <rwhitby> dtzWill: first thing is to work out how to make build.git be able to build something somewhere other than two levels below the root
Jul 05 07:07:28 <rwhitby> dtzWill: any ideas on that?
Jul 05 07:18:41 <dtzWill> rwhitby: which issues do you see? discovery of the packages? the makefiles/dependent scripts referring handling their depth in the structure in a consistent manner?
Jul 05 07:18:49 <dtzWill> rwhitby: i think we can figure it out :):)
Jul 05 07:20:30 <rwhitby> dtzWill: makefiles referencing support .mk fragments and common things mainly
Jul 05 07:21:35 <dtzWill> rwhitby: i'd say have each makefile, on close to the first line, define "LEVEL=../../" or so, and then everything else bases off $(LEVEL) etc
Jul 05 07:21:49 <rwhitby> dtzWill: that was my first thought too
Jul 05 07:22:19 <dtzWill> rwhitby: i totally stole that idea from other build systems I've used (but not designed) :)
Jul 05 07:22:23 <rwhitby> then the next step is making the toolchain directories identical
Jul 05 07:22:36 <dtzWill> rwhitby: kk any drawbacks you see with that? other than having to define it? (doesn't seem like that's a big deal)
Jul 05 07:22:48 <rwhitby> then any common scripts in support/*.mk being identical
Jul 05 07:22:53 <dtzWill> rwhitby: what about toolchain directories?
Jul 05 07:23:00 <dtzWill> rwhitby: oh you mean merging build/cross-compile, yes
Jul 05 07:23:42 <dtzWill> rwhitby: hmmmm. yeah that'll take some serious work. offhand, do we care which merges into which? :) (where do we make this new branch? :D)
Jul 05 07:27:43 <rwhitby> dtzWill: the other things is that the autobuilder has to be fairly robust so that a broken widk package does not stop preware feeds updating
Jul 05 07:30:25 <dtzWill> rwhitby: good point. might not be the best question, but is ...managing commit rights an issue (in a similar vein)?
Jul 05 07:31:00 <rwhitby> dtzWill: yes
Jul 05 07:31:52 <swisstomcat> hi rwhitby
Jul 05 07:32:05 <swisstomcat> shall i already upload the ringtone app?
Jul 05 07:32:16 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: yes
Jul 05 07:32:25 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: I'll create the repo now
Jul 05 07:32:29 <swisstomcat> k
Jul 05 07:33:59 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: done
Jul 05 07:34:33 <swisstomcat> i just do the usual commit (since it's the first one)?
Jul 05 07:36:15 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: I would set the author to a value that James prefers
Jul 05 07:36:33 <swisstomcat> hmm
Jul 05 07:36:47 <swisstomcat> good point
Jul 05 07:37:09 <swisstomcat> i might until he shows up
Jul 05 07:37:11 <swisstomcat> wait
Jul 05 07:58:28 <Mercury> rwhitby: So, I'd _love_ a mode for preware that let me do a checkmark next to various packages, and then tell it to install/upgrade/uninstall all the marked packages.  Is anything like that on the todo list?
Jul 05 08:00:31 <rwhitby> yes, for gen 2
Jul 05 08:00:58 * Mercury nods.
Jul 05 08:02:28 <Mercury> So what all is planned for gen 2?
Jul 05 08:05:30 <rwhitby> Instant load, instant interaction, multiple parallel installs, delta synching updates with a server.
Jul 05 08:05:53 <rwhitby> scaleable to 100's of thousands of apps.
Jul 05 08:08:08 <Mercury> How do you plan on getting the parallel installs to work out?
Jul 05 08:11:03 <rwhitby> Fool Palm's application install service into thinking the homebrew is approved for installation, and use the same routines that the app catalog client uses.
Jul 05 08:11:43 <rwhitby> we currently use that method for the auto-installation of Preware by Meta-Doctor on first boot
Jul 05 08:12:43 <hape_> moin
Jul 05 08:13:25 <Mercury> Ahh, I didn't know that Palm's application install service could do parallel installs.
Jul 05 08:14:52 <swisstomcat> moin hape
Jul 05 08:16:49 <rwhitby> well, it serialises them internally
Jul 05 08:18:34 * Mercury nods.
Jul 05 08:20:44 * rwhitby bbl
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Jul 05 18:55:06 <darronb> kind of looks like it...  ?
Jul 05 18:57:49 <swisstomcat> twitter.com/webosinternals
Jul 05 18:57:56 <swisstomcat> posts updates
Jul 05 19:01:06 <wusaint> is the backup mirror down now too? I just got an error message :-(
Jul 05 19:03:36 <swisstomcat> maybe it's overloaded
Jul 05 19:06:31 <dunivan> hey al
Jul 05 19:06:41 <dunivan> l
Jul 05 19:06:51 <dunivan> looking for how to use this feed: webos-kernels-testing
Jul 05 19:07:22 <swisstomcat> have you checked the wiki (webos-internals.org)=
Jul 05 19:07:24 <swisstomcat> ?
Jul 05 19:07:54 <dunivan> wiki is down for me
Jul 05 19:08:02 <swisstomcat> true
Jul 05 19:08:12 <swisstomcat> better wait until everything is back up
Jul 05 19:08:42 <dunivan> and when I update preware feeds I get a wget error and nothing loads other then themes in preware
Jul 05 19:09:10 <wusaint> I just tried it again and it worked. maybe it's just getting overloaded
Jul 05 19:09:53 <dunivan> yeah, im trying to install my vkb with keyboss and uinput
Jul 05 19:10:29 <dunivan> so I found the feed, i take it I should use for my os: 1.4.1 rather then 1.4.3 right?
Jul 05 19:22:20 <wusaint> ok it's hit and miss with the feeds probably 3 out of 5 times it works
Jul 05 20:45:35 <Gollyzila> Gosh darnit. wIRC keeps loginning in everytime my phone connects to wifi. All I do to disconnect is throw away the card.
Jul 05 20:45:42 <Gollyzila> Not this time though
Jul 05 20:53:38 <Robi_> i think the fb app stays resident for some reason
Jul 05 21:16:30 <Robi_> notifications..
Jul 05 21:25:01 <doohan> Guys any thoughts on why I can't install patches through preware?
Jul 05 21:25:07 <doohan> It's downloading themn
Jul 05 21:25:19 <doohan> fails at running luna-send -n 6 etc etc
Jul 05 21:26:40 <doohan> other apps install fine
Jul 05 21:33:05 <doohan> got it sorted
Jul 05 22:21:40 <Tman> Python/ceval.c:2645: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
Jul 05 22:21:41 <Tman> o.o
Jul 05 22:54:24 <ProfJonathan> Anybody around to assist me with a really bizarre USB mode-related issue?
Jul 05 23:00:57 <JOE-> hello?
Jul 05 23:05:19 <dtzWill> Tman: o_O. python is a big PITA, i wish we didn't need it. can't trust host python, weirdness happens if we try to.... but AFAIK we don't actually try to use that python actually on the device, so it causing all the problems it does is unfortunate
Jul 05 23:05:54 <rwhitby> do we have any mysql cluster data recovery experts in the house?
Jul 05 23:06:12 <Tman> dtzWill: just using host python to generate some C code, it shouldn't be a problem..
Jul 05 23:06:54 <darronb> rwhitby: err, that doesn't sound good
Jul 05 23:07:02 <dtzWill> Tman:  you'd think so, but it gives some "unable to find platform specific libraries" or similar when you try it, particularly on 64-bit builds iirc
Jul 05 23:07:16 <rwhitby> darronb: indeed
Jul 05 23:07:23 <dtzWill> Tman: at the time we weren't able to get around it, but i'm all for revisiting that as needed
Jul 05 23:08:03 * rwhitby bbiab
Jul 05 23:09:32 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: well.. what python have we been using, exactly?
Jul 05 23:10:00 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: just for the libxcb stuff iirc. someone might've added more that dep's on it, but that's it last time i checked (that's why I introduced python)
Jul 05 23:10:06 <dtzWill> annoyingly it just needs it to build...
Jul 05 23:10:48 <dtzWill> ah, people in different channel saying "the must be very nigh indeed... osuosl's file servers seem to be missing"... and i seemed to remember some discussion.
Jul 05 23:10:51 <dtzWill> bummer :/
Jul 05 23:11:19 <dtzWill> good thing i responded in wrong channel, whoopsy. :)
Jul 05 23:13:05 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: I meant.. what are we using to get it to build now? because whatever that is wasn't working for me
Jul 05 23:13:34 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: well we're just downloading the source and building it.... nothing super special unless i forgot something.
Jul 05 23:13:46 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: no idea why you're getting your compiler internal error :(
Jul 05 23:16:20 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: no that only happened once, it was fixed after that.
Jul 05 23:16:56 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: oh. err, so is there a problem?
Jul 05 23:18:01 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: but in order to build that source, we need python to generate some of the C code. I think it always was using the host python to do that. I think SB2 was just messing it up so it couldn't find the python modules.. so I took that step out of scratchbox and it seems to work
Jul 05 23:18:33 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: that sounds excellent. is that in your branch of mainline?
Jul 05 23:18:59 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: mine, though it could be merged to master easily
Jul 05 23:19:18 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: okay. well that certainly sounds good, and here's hoping it fixes the misc errors for people python's been causing.
Jul 05 23:19:36 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: thanks, and sorry i didn't understand the situation. your solution sounds good and i look forward to it in mainline :)
Jul 05 23:20:41 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: timeline on you finishing your work? No hurry at all, just would like us to be working together as much as possible, and so just curious :)
Jul 05 23:20:46 <Tman_pre> haha ok. I was wondering if it was just me, sounds like not
Jul 05 23:21:29 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: ehe, well I think python was the big holdup. it's very close to being done I think
Jul 05 23:21:35 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: no, python has been a pain since day 1. but since it works for *me*/autobuilder, and no one complained extra loud, it hadn't been fixerd
Jul 05 23:21:40 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: excellent :D, good news.
Jul 05 23:25:07 <Tman_pre> yup. if I can finish the staging-armv6 build we'll be good. I haven't tried any i686 yet but I can't see it being a huge problem
Jul 05 23:27:32 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: multi-arch support is huge, excited to look at things when you're done :)
Jul 05 23:28:55 <ka6sox> any mysql experts here?
Jul 05 23:28:58 <Tman_pre> dtzWill: I appreciate your enthusiasm :)
Jul 05 23:29:38 <dtzWill> Tman_pre: haha good :). *\o/* *\o/* go tman go *\o/* *\o/*
Jul 05 23:29:39 <dtzWill> xD
Jul 05 23:33:41 * Tman_pre looks worriedly at ka6sox 
Jul 05 23:34:16 <ka6sox> ~lart mysql
Jul 05 23:34:16 * infobot nukes mysql with a single large nuke
Jul 05 23:34:22 <ka6sox> perfect
Jul 05 23:35:17 <Tman_pre> what happened?
Jul 05 23:42:38 <ka6sox> crashed and burned...the server won't come up and stay up.
Jul 05 23:43:04 <Tman_pre> so you can't get a dump?
Jul 05 23:43:59 <darronb> aren't there channels for mysql here?  nobody's helping?
Jul 05 23:48:27 <ka6sox> darronb, not in 2+hrs of waiting patiently
Jul 06 00:09:28 <ka6sox> bah...3hrs and NO help in #mysql....what a waste.
Jul 06 00:21:02 <Tman> jerks
Jul 06 00:21:14 <Tman> tried google?
Jul 06 00:21:37 <ka6sox> apparently my google foo sucks too...circular references.
Jul 06 00:22:30 <ka6sox> in order to fix the db you hvae to have the server running, but in order to have the server runnign you need to fix the db's
Jul 06 00:22:36 <Tman> lol.
Jul 06 00:22:55 <rwhitby> ka6sox: are all db's broken, or just some?
Jul 06 00:23:03 <rwhitby> can some be moved away to allow the server to start?
Jul 06 00:23:15 <ka6sox> the server can't come up because it thinks that the dbs are broken
Jul 06 00:23:17 <rwhitby> can the broken db's be fixed on a different test server
Jul 06 00:23:30 <ka6sox> everything I've read is a circular reference
Jul 06 00:23:50 <ka6sox> gotta have the server running to fix the dbs but the db's being broken are preventing the server from coming up.
Jul 06 00:26:03 <oil> lol
Jul 06 00:29:05 <ka6sox> ~lart mysql
Jul 06 00:29:05 * infobot forces mysql to use Outlook Express
Jul 06 00:29:45 <oil> LOL
Jul 06 00:29:52 <oil> evil infobot
Jul 06 00:30:05 <oil> i wouldn't wish outlook express on my worst enemy
Jul 06 00:39:22 <daveb_> can someone help me install keyboss and uinput i cant find them
Jul 06 00:43:48 <rwhitby> webos-internals-testing, webos-kernels-testing
Jul 06 01:27:27 * Tman is compiling gtk.. whyyy do we have this in WIDK :(
Jul 06 01:28:25 <Tman> ah, all done
Jul 06 01:28:33 <Tman> I know have a complete staging/armv6 :D
Jul 06 01:31:28 <Tman> s/know/now/
Jul 06 01:31:28 <infobot> Tman meant: I now have a complete staging/armv6 :D
Jul 06 01:42:26 <Mercury> ka6sox: That, really sucks.  What distribution?
Jul 06 01:42:33 <Mercury> ka6sox: And what version of mysql?
Jul 06 01:43:27 <ka6sox> mysql 5.0
Jul 06 01:43:32 <dtzWill> Tman: hooray!
Jul 06 01:43:52 <dtzWill> Tman: we have gtk for things like /pidgin/ and other yummy apps we really should get off our butts and ship :)
Jul 06 01:44:03 <Tman> dtzWill: you can checkout the arch branch if you wanna take a look
Jul 06 01:44:13 <Mercury> ka6sox: Do you have any specifics on the DB corruption?
Jul 06 01:44:25 <Tman> hehe
Jul 06 01:44:32 <BeeRad> Anybody else been having install failures like crazy today with Preware, or is it just me?
Jul 06 01:44:58 <ka6sox> Mercury, I think that ibdata1 is corrupt from what I can tell.
Jul 06 01:46:17 <Mercury> ka6sox: Which storage engine?
Jul 06 01:46:20 <nachob> anybody able to install latest wirc from /testing/armv7 feed v0.2.99.1?
Jul 06 01:46:24 <Mercury> ka6sox: (No clue if I'll be able to find an answer, but.)
Jul 06 01:46:27 <ka6sox> Mercury, innodb
Jul 06 01:46:42 <Mercury> ka6sox: Do you have the error messages?
Jul 06 01:46:48 <ka6sox> Mercury, let me point you to some pastes of error messages.
Jul 06 01:46:53 <Anivrom> beerad: me too
Jul 06 01:47:15 <dtzWill> BeeRad, Anivrom: server issues, we're working on it
Jul 06 01:47:23 <dtzWill> by we i mean other people, but "we" as the webos-internals team
Jul 06 01:47:27 <ka6sox> Mercury, http://webos-internals.pastebin.com/2fcPjyeG
Jul 06 01:47:56 <BeeRad> dtzWill: not complaining. Just wondered.
Jul 06 01:48:09 <Anivrom> Ditto
Jul 06 01:48:23 <dtzWill> BeeRad: understood. i'd respond differently (if at all) if i thought you were complaining :)
Jul 06 01:48:33 <BeeRad> I saw the server issues, but I thought the ipkg errors might have been on my end.
Jul 06 01:49:06 <Mercury> ka6sox: No recent backups?
Jul 06 01:49:17 <ka6sox> Mercury,http://webos-internals.pastebin.com/LE2aSRqQ
Jul 06 01:49:30 <ka6sox> Mercury, replication broke silently
Jul 06 01:49:54 <rwhitby> nachob: wait for next version of wIRC.  postinst script error.
Jul 06 01:50:28 <nachob> will do, thanks for the response Rod
Jul 06 01:51:50 <rwhitby> nachob: PuffTheMagic (who is handling that testing release) will gladly support you from here ...
Jul 06 01:52:04 * BeeRad not looking forward to setting up a new Pre.......again. 
Jul 06 01:52:29 <Mercury> ka6sox: You know that there are security updates for mysql as well, yes? (Probably won't help at the moment, but to note while I dig.)
Jul 06 01:52:43 <nachob> Sounds good, I'm in no hurry
Jul 06 01:53:09 <gollyzila|comp> nachob: PuffTheMagic: I also had an error trying to update to that version of wIRC
Jul 06 01:53:09 <ka6sox> Mercury, I did an update about 6 or 7 days ago.
Jul 06 01:54:17 <Mercury> ka6sox: Hmm, odd, I don't even see 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.4 on the mirrors anymore, it's 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.7.  But, anyhow.
Jul 06 01:54:36 <ka6sox> http://paste.lisp.org/display/112170
Jul 06 01:54:37 <rwhitby> ka6sox: I've just changed the ipkg.preware.org CNAME back to milla.
Jul 06 01:54:53 <ka6sox> rwhitby, good...it is varnished so no problems.
Jul 06 01:55:04 <ka6sox> but then so is ipkg3
Jul 06 01:55:11 <ka6sox> only ipkg1 isnt' varnished.
Jul 06 01:55:15 <Mercury> ka6sox: Looking at the ccode in question, it looks like it's trying to free memory that's already been freed, more or less.
Jul 06 01:55:31 <ka6sox> Mercury, aha...
Jul 06 01:55:46 <rwhitby> ka6sox: oh, I didn't realise ipkg3 was varnished
Jul 06 01:55:55 <PuffTheMagic> gollyzila|comp: yeah a fixed version should hit the feed in a few min
Jul 06 01:55:57 <Mercury> It's in fseg_free_step_not_header, where it does:
Jul 06 01:56:05 <Mercury>         n = fseg_find_last_used_frag_page_slot(inode, mtr);
Jul 06 01:56:05 <Mercury>         if (n == ULINT_UNDEFINED) {
Jul 06 01:56:05 <Mercury>                 ut_error;
Jul 06 01:56:12 <gollyzila|comp> PuffTheMagic: thanks
Jul 06 01:56:16 <PuffTheMagic> rwhitby: do we have any sort of preinst() support in preware
Jul 06 01:56:24 <rwhitby> PuffTheMagic: nope
Jul 06 01:56:25 <PuffTheMagic> err
Jul 06 01:56:32 <nachob> PuffTheMagic: Thanks
Jul 06 01:56:34 <Mercury> Not a clue how this helps _fix_ it, but.
Jul 06 01:56:48 <ka6sox> well..it seems as if the page_tables are a mess.
Jul 06 01:56:57 <PuffTheMagic> rwhitby: i miss spoke
Jul 06 01:57:17 <rwhitby> PuffTheMagic: for preware gen 2 using app install service and reporting parallel install status asynchronously back to preware through a database, we should be able to support preinstall scripts
Jul 06 01:57:19 <PuffTheMagic> err no i didnt
Jul 06 01:57:36 <PuffTheMagic> i guess i will just make the postinst fail
Jul 06 01:57:41 <ka6sox> Mercury, can you look up how to recover a ibdata1 file that is corrupt?
Jul 06 01:57:46 <PuffTheMagic> hmm
Jul 06 01:57:52 <PuffTheMagic> thats no good either
Jul 06 01:57:55 <Mercury> ka6sox: Have you tried setting innodb_force_recovery to > 0 values and restarting mysql?
Jul 06 01:58:06 <ka6sox> Mercury, I found this: http://www.chriscalender.com/?p=49
Jul 06 01:58:11 <ka6sox> Mercury: 1 and 6
Jul 06 01:58:30 <PuffTheMagic> well i guess this is just somethjing testing feed people will have to accept for now
Jul 06 01:58:41 <PuffTheMagic> actually
Jul 06 01:58:53 <PuffTheMagic> rwhitby: what about a >= 1.4.5 testing feed
Jul 06 01:59:06 <PuffTheMagic> for only 1.4.5 compat stuff
Jul 06 01:59:19 <Mercury> ka6sox: That page does look interesting.
Jul 06 01:59:39 <Mercury> ka6sox: (And beats anything else I've found so far.)
Jul 06 02:00:24 <ka6sox> Mercury, ya, me too...looks long and complicated but better than anything else I've found.
Jul 06 02:01:03 * egaudet thinks we need WEBOS_COMPATIBLE in packaging standards
Jul 06 02:01:46 <Mercury> ka6sox: Once this is done, I'd definitely suggest a cron job that nightly backs up all the DB files and throws them somewhere.
Jul 06 02:02:11 <egaudet> PuffTheMagic, maybe give wIRC a new package id
Jul 06 02:02:16 <ka6sox> Mercury, thought the replication was working...didn't get any notification it was bork3n
Jul 06 02:02:33 <ka6sox> Mercury, but I don't trust it now!
Jul 06 02:03:12 <Mercury> ka6sox: Even with replication, it doesn't save you from someone gaining access and proceeding to wipe everything, that just gets replicated along with everything else.  Dated backups going back a month or so?  _That's_ handy in a crunch. :)
Jul 06 02:04:30 <sjsharksfan> hi all, the new update for wIRC doesn't install, is this expected?
Jul 06 02:04:32 <Mercury> ka6sox: What happens when you try to bring up the replicated DB?
Jul 06 02:04:37 <PuffTheMagic> lol
Jul 06 02:04:54 <rwhitby> sjsharksfan: PuffTheMagic will help you out with that :)
Jul 06 02:04:55 <PuffTheMagic> i guess Description needs a go to #wirc ;)
Jul 06 02:05:10 <ka6sox> Mercury, its out of date (by too much)
Jul 06 02:05:20 <sjsharksfan> thx rod
Jul 06 02:05:28 <Mercury> ka6sox: What all is stored in the mysql DB?
Jul 06 02:05:47 <sjsharksfan> I will go to wirc feed
Jul 06 02:05:49 <Mercury> (Not a DB person really, just a sysadmin, with a developer hat hiding somewhere.)
Jul 06 02:06:20 <ka6sox> Mercury, wiki databases (20 wikis) + bugzilla + a number of other things I'm probably forgetting.
Jul 06 02:06:46 <Mercury> ka6sox: Ouch.  How old is the replicated DB?
Jul 06 02:09:04 <ka6sox> 15-June
Jul 06 02:11:32 <Mercury> Ow.
Jul 06 02:11:54 <Tman> could be worse.. could be a few months
Jul 06 02:12:00 <Mercury> ka6sox: My recommendation would definitely be the google tool.  I can ask a couple of people tomorrow if that doesn't work out.
Jul 06 02:12:23 <ka6sox> Mercury, thanks!
Jul 06 02:13:14 <Mercury> ka6sox: But, backups.  Ideally mirrored to another site so that a loss of the hardware or a nasty breach doesn't compromise it.
Jul 06 02:13:49 <Mercury> ka6sox: (Backup site grabbing the files, ssh key for login.  Instead of the system pushing to the backup site.  Only helps to limit damage of a compromise, but it still helps.)
Jul 06 02:14:16 <ka6sox> Mercury, in the middle of setting that up...not enough hours in the day...need more help.
Jul 06 02:59:44 <muesli> will i lose my photos / video on the phone if i decide to doctor it?
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