**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 15 02:59:56 2010 Jul 15 03:18:16 Xanadu73 is doing a good job on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware Jul 15 03:50:36 i can ssh to a phone, but i forgot to install sudo. How do i get this phone's gps coords? luna-send says "main: assertion `serviceInit' failed" etc Jul 15 04:40:02 anyone know what class or function controls the led light in the gesture area? I assume the code is device dependent for pixi and pre plus vs pre (with the button)? Jul 15 04:40:54 Im seeing in consistent lighting of the center led on my Pre Plus. Was not sure if this was usual, or my rom or kernel may have messed this up. Jul 15 04:53:54 drewp, just su to root? Jul 15 05:20:06 dreadchicken: su says it needs to be setuid. for some reason it wasn't Jul 15 05:22:18 it isn't, look at my notes or if you can't find them then cp /bin (/usr/bin?) su to su-orig and copy easybox to su and chmod it. i'm 100% sure there is an "approved" way to do it, but that's what we did in the early days. Jul 15 05:22:36 erry, busybox. Jul 15 05:23:10 you think i'll be able to do that as non-root? seems like it would be a security hole Jul 15 05:23:20 anyone know off the top of their head how to back out a certain commit? I i.e if I have commits 1.2.3.4 (increasing order), I want to back 3 out but keep 4 (since it does not affect the same things) Jul 15 05:23:48 google it Jul 15 05:23:57 dude I did Jul 15 05:24:02 and it wouldn't make a diff if 4 and 3 were overlapping Jul 15 05:24:09 4 would still generate a patch over 2 Jul 15 05:24:24 all I get is cherry pick, which is to selecting certain things Jul 15 05:24:25 dreadchicken: oh right, when i copy things, they end up drewp-owned, so my setuid doesnt add any permissions Jul 15 05:25:39 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/495345/git-removing-selected-commits-from-repository Jul 15 05:26:26 I bow to your google foo Jul 15 05:26:28 reading Jul 15 05:26:57 yeah, you don't have a root access so use novaterm or the like to issue the su changes. there is some better way, but i can't remember at the moment. Jul 15 05:27:20 * dreadchicken is old and losing his mind. Jul 15 05:27:37 can't use novaterm until i find the phone :) Jul 15 05:27:47 Would someone mind helping me install f105 thunderchief? I doctored my phone today, and I can't find the page I found the testing URLs on. Help please? Jul 15 05:28:13 oh, this is remote? (scrolls up) Jul 15 05:29:14 Not getting any help here? Jul 15 05:29:35 v7z730ib, rtfboards Jul 15 05:30:19 dreadchicken: right; i installed ssh but forgot sudo on this phone, so i am hoping to get gps (or launch my app that sends gps to me) without root Jul 15 05:31:04 What's rtfboards ? Jul 15 05:34:13 where's that list of patches that do not work with 1.4.5 again? Jul 15 05:35:14 Here is what's working: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253424-patch-list-official-webos-1-4-5-patch-compatibility-list.html Jul 15 05:35:22 drewp, that's a pickle. i don't know who owns what mojo wise, but i suspect you are out of luck. Jul 15 05:35:35 I guess i'm not gonna get any help here. -_- Thanks guys. Jul 15 05:36:43 i got wifi AP addresses with strengths, at least, which is cool Jul 15 05:37:00 v7z730ib, good luck and read, lots of reading. Jul 15 05:37:17 Thanks. Jul 15 05:37:34 drewp, that's not bad, so users have access to iwconfig? Jul 15 05:37:44 yeah (and iwlist) Jul 15 05:37:56 i was surprised i couldn't play a sound. pulseaudio is strict Jul 15 05:40:19 yeah, it is. pita when you are trying to get the audio for the pr0n you are watching on a temp account you created just for pr0n....or so people tell me. Jul 15 05:40:55 OK, I'm looking for a beta tester who has updated to webOS 1.4.5, but has not fixed their /etc/fstab yet ... Jul 15 05:47:39 sorry Jul 15 05:47:42 no 1.4.5 here Jul 15 05:53:13 EFF is in the testing feed Jul 15 05:53:20 (Emergency Fstab Fixer) Jul 15 06:00:26 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=35534#p35534 Jul 15 06:02:22 morning Jul 15 06:03:46 g'day hape Jul 15 06:03:54 hape: did you see the new Navit version? Jul 15 06:04:02 :O where? Jul 15 06:05:34 I want turn by turn badly on my pre Jul 15 06:16:36 rwhitby: Not load preware until now. But will do shortly Jul 15 06:22:03 yay Navit! Jul 15 06:33:05 RagingMind: needs 1.4.5 !!!! Jul 15 06:33:20 rwhitby: See it. Update is running Jul 15 06:33:22 hape: 1.4.5 and EFF Jul 15 06:33:30 EFF? Jul 15 06:36:52 navit is hybrid? or full pdk? Jul 15 06:39:20 oil: Full pdk Jul 15 06:41:15 rwhitby: Update worked. What do you mean by EFF? Jul 15 06:41:39 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/255149-emergency-fstab-fixer-required-fix-webos-1-4-5-ota-update.html Jul 15 06:42:16 rwhitby: ok, was not aware of this short form ;) Jul 15 06:49:35 what were you having to work around with that one? Jul 15 06:52:42 do you have to add the "testing feed" to preware manually? it's not in prefs Jul 15 06:55:10 cxreg: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Jul 15 06:55:59 thanks Jul 15 07:00:24 geist: OTA update to 1.4.5 didn't add the umask to /etc/fstab which allows jailed PDK apps to write in /media/internal Jul 15 07:00:55 yah Jul 15 07:00:55 geist: Palm is getting PDK developers to update their apps to write to their app dir instead of /media/internal Jul 15 07:01:07 ah, haven't been paying attention Jul 15 07:01:47 Ben Combe announced today that 1.4.5 is being rolled out without the fix Jul 15 07:02:00 app's app dir is also on /media/internal (effectively), right? Jul 15 07:02:11 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=8109 (public forum) Jul 15 07:02:44 ark3qqq: it's in a cryptofs mount of /media/internal/.palm, yes. but writeable in the jail by default Jul 15 07:03:11 I was asking more from an amount-of-space perspective, but that clarifies. Thanks. Jul 15 07:03:37 the other difference is visibility by end user Jul 15 07:04:49 Right, and that the files will get nuked if you uninstall the app. All nicely 'splained in the link you posted. Jul 15 07:07:30 So there's still no 1.4.5 for Sprint right? Jul 15 07:08:09 no Jul 15 07:10:07 Thanks. Jul 15 07:16:33 Good morning. Jul 15 07:18:38 Preware can open ipks from emails, very nice. Jul 15 07:20:31 My phone has been running at battery level 0% for a couple of minutes now. Jul 15 07:21:25 This is odd, since it was showing the reverse behavior for the last few days: 28% -> "low battery, will shut down soon" -> off in less than ten minutes. Jul 15 07:22:34 mine often drops to 0% at around 8% Jul 15 07:23:16 At 8% that's not bad. At 28%, it's really bad. Jul 15 07:23:59 third party battery? Jul 15 07:24:42 Nope, my 1-year-old original battery. Jul 15 07:25:11 That's why I'm running it down all the way, to reset whatever battery meter is confused. And that's why I'm surprised it's been running at 0% for so long now. Jul 15 07:27:24 okay. who here has the govnah hanging problem? Jul 15 07:27:27 Hello everyone :) I'm trying to install preware using the command line, but I seem to be doing something wrong, since I get this: http://imagebin.ca/img/z__QmeG.png . Any idea why? Jul 15 07:29:38 jhojho: Is that the 1000 data point thing? I haven't seen it yet. Jul 15 07:29:50 rwhitby: Do you know what could cause this: http://imagebin.ca/img/Wp6PpMgE.png Jul 15 07:29:50 ? Jul 15 07:31:04 CFP: looks like your network is not able to access ipkg.preware.org - does it occur on all feeds our just some? Jul 15 07:31:33 All of them, I fear ; yet manual connection works... Jul 15 07:32:01 tried reinstalling, but no luck Jul 15 07:32:15 are you in the UK? Jul 15 07:32:46 if so, try wifi instead Jul 15 07:32:55 nope, in france Jul 15 07:33:00 Gonna try though Jul 15 07:33:29 some 3G providers screw with wget's in europe we've found. Jul 15 07:35:30 That's it! Also fixes the setup-from-command-line problem :) Jul 15 07:35:36 Thanks a lot =) Jul 15 07:36:24 it's probably a good idea to try updating using wifi if possible. Jul 15 07:37:03 It might be worth messing with wget --user-agent=... to see if it's possible to get around said screwing. Jul 15 07:39:11 One strange thing though: As I mentionned, on 3G, the preware-bootstrap script wouldn't work properly ( http://imagebin.ca/img/z__QmeG.png ). Yet the download itself (wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap) worked without problems... Jul 15 07:41:23 ark3qqq: if anyone can diagnose what screws it, I'm happy to use that to fix it. I have not yet found anyone who can work out why or how it happens. Jul 15 07:41:44 CFP: the difference is the size of the file. script is tiny, package is big. Jul 15 07:42:31 I see :) Jul 15 07:43:41 Simplest approach would be to see what happens when you pull a big file using wget with a well-known user agent, like the one used by the Pre's browser. Jul 15 07:44:02 I don't have a 3G connection that screws with wget, so I couldn't help ya... Jul 15 07:50:52 rwhitby: What du you think about addinf your EFF fix at a depedancy to Navit? Jul 15 07:51:49 hape: a bit dangerous. it removes itself at the end of the install, so would cause an unusual situation which could impact future updates of Navit Jul 15 07:54:03 If you had a different package that didn't uninstall itself but did the same job, then any 1.4.5-requiring app could depend on said package. Jul 15 07:56:57 * rwhitby bbl Jul 15 07:57:52 My phone's been at 0% for about 30 minutes now. Freaky. Jul 15 07:59:05 rwhitby: stragne ide. Add the code to the Navit postinst that it do the fix itself if required. Not sure if this is a good ide... Jul 15 07:59:42 s/ide/idea/ Jul 15 07:59:43 hape meant: rwhitby: stragne idea. Add the code to the Navit postinst that it do the fix itself if required. Not sure if this is a good ide... Jul 15 08:00:13 I guess you meant s/ide/idea/g :) Jul 15 08:01:15 At last, the phone is shutting down. Jul 15 08:01:41 interesting, palm can't fix it Jul 15 08:02:01 .. without restarting the cert process that is Jul 15 08:02:30 I blame the carriers Jul 15 08:03:08 Based on the 1.*.1 releases, I get the impression that the carriers will cert minor changes more quickly. Jul 15 08:04:29 I dunno 1.4.1 took quite a while for staggering issues which aren't even completely solved Jul 15 08:05:19 I think I meant 1.*.*.1 sorry. Jul 15 08:05:43 it seems like the 'fix' could be tacked on *after* the OTA update as to not mess with the cert process Jul 15 08:06:22 could they put something in the app catalog? Jul 15 08:06:40 its not a guarantee everyone would run it Jul 15 08:06:56 like how they put up that patch for the Pixi to download over 2G Jul 15 08:07:10 download updates over 2G* Jul 15 08:07:30 havent heard about it Jul 15 08:07:49 that was quite a while back Jul 15 08:08:06 after Sprint Pixi launch Jul 15 08:08:14 shrug Jul 15 08:08:17 Right, since the Pixi doesn't ahve wifi. Jul 15 08:08:27 it has 3g Jul 15 08:08:37 since it has no Wifi, and people had trouble getting into 3G areas Jul 15 08:08:54 ah stuck in 1x Jul 15 08:08:55 yeah but Sprint's 3G coverage isn't the best Jul 15 08:09:26 initially updates refused to download on 1X Jul 15 08:09:47 good PR for preware and the team here Jul 15 08:10:20 so Palm put some 2G enabler for Pixi in the catalog Jul 15 08:10:27 like 4 hrs later rwhitby posts the fix, ftw Jul 15 09:04:36 I've updated webos to 1.4.5 and now all my patches are not working Jul 15 09:42:13 hi all Jul 15 09:42:43 what can be the problem, if webosquickinstall can't see the palm device.. but it is recognized by the linux system? Jul 15 09:42:59 use the Palm SDK instead Jul 15 09:43:51 rwhitby: hey.. long time ago ;) Jul 15 09:44:11 ok.. so will do that on my machine.. cause on customers machine i need to install all. Jul 15 09:44:37 does webosquickinstall need novaterm? Jul 15 09:52:50 noaXess: I expect yes Jul 15 09:53:48 hape: why is that not described on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware#Installing_Preware or can't i see it? Jul 15 10:06:16 yay. super sekret warthog kernel boots. now on to step 2 but that's tomorrow.... Jul 15 10:54:41 hape, actually I downloaded the alpha for 1.4.1 Jul 15 10:54:47 because I'm on verizon Jul 15 11:22:56 so can we say that all of europe got 1.4.5? Jul 15 11:23:41 anyway my pre is getting bad :( Jul 15 11:30:16 en0x: seems like Europe and Canada according to the reports Jul 15 11:41:14 i wonder how far palm is in rewriting webos from java to c++ Jul 15 11:41:15 ;] Jul 15 11:43:47 en0x: I thought they were rewriting to javascript services Jul 15 11:46:55 but they had some java apps too... didn't they? Jul 15 11:48:20 java services, yes. which I expect they are rewriting to javascript services Jul 15 11:48:52 they wouldn't be going to all the trouble of creating the infrastructure for javascript services if they weren't going to be using them for the core OS Jul 15 11:54:06 right Jul 15 11:54:13 so this should speed up thing a little Jul 15 11:54:26 anyway javascript isn't memory hungry? Jul 15 11:54:46 i know on my desktop when i leave a browser on some page with a lot of javascript it will eat up to 400mb ram Jul 15 13:15:26 ok i'm done with my work for today unless something comes up Jul 15 13:17:24 [13:54] i know on my desktop when i leave a browser on some page with a lot of javascript it will eat up to 400mb ram <- firefox? ;) Jul 15 13:19:20 [; Jul 15 13:19:49 i can't live without few addons and chrome doesn't have them Jul 15 13:20:02 and chrome doesn't support multitouch on macs like firefox Jul 15 13:20:09 3finger swipe down to go to bottom of page it Jul 15 13:20:12 etc* Jul 15 13:21:10 hmkay Jul 15 13:23:50 yap Jul 15 13:23:57 but overall chrome is nice Jul 15 13:24:03 but eula suck ass Jul 15 13:24:04 ;p Jul 15 13:24:14 yeah google :D Jul 15 13:25:48 hehe Jul 15 13:26:21 i wonder how many ppl attends church of google Jul 15 13:26:37 http://churchofgoogle.org/ [; Jul 15 13:40:15 good morning Jul 15 13:41:09 yo cryptk|work Jul 15 13:43:36 so, my work won't let me have a straight up linux laptop so every day... I come in... fire up Windows XP... then fire up Sun VirtualBox to fire up linux inside of it... Jul 15 13:43:50 all because they use stupid Lotus Notes Jul 15 13:43:58 and that doesn't work in Linux Jul 15 13:44:23 lotus notes are so old Jul 15 13:44:27 this should be obsoleted Jul 15 13:44:30 indeed Jul 15 13:44:58 thanks god we don't use it Jul 15 13:45:34 yep Jul 15 13:45:55 the new lotus works on linux :) Jul 15 13:47:17 linuks sucks for desktop use Jul 15 13:47:18 still Jul 15 13:53:47 I use linux for desktop use every day Jul 15 13:54:08 and I like it better than windows XP, Vista and 7... and I def like it better than OSX Jul 15 13:54:40 cryptk|work: Sorry this is wron. Notes 8 is running on Linux. Using it right now Jul 15 13:54:42 but linux is just now getting to have enough market share that companies are making thigs for it Jul 15 13:55:09 really... hrm... time to take another look at getting Notes working on Linux Jul 15 13:55:17 maybe then I can have an actual Linux machine Jul 15 13:55:33 we use Lotus Sametime also but I have that working through Pidgin Jul 15 13:55:39 I only miss the Notes Developer as this is where my daly work is done. That only workos on win :-( Jul 15 14:34:23 my pre needs to see a doctor Jul 15 16:36:01 has anyone heard of any problems with the 1.4.5 update on bell? it's failing to validate for me Jul 15 16:40:31 I would like to cause a script of my choice to be executed when a Palm Pre Plus is rebooted. I see files in /etc/rc2.d, but experiments seem to indicate that they are not actually run. I expected scripts in rc2.d to be run because "runlevel" prints "2". Jul 15 16:40:54 TimFreeman: /etc/event.d Jul 15 16:41:58 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:SBromwichKernel has a sample event.d script Jul 15 16:42:33 Thanks. I'm looking at my /etc/events.d and trying to guess the format of those files, and it isn't immediate. I'll have a look at your example. Jul 15 16:42:46 down near the bottom Jul 15 16:42:50 (I mean /etc/event.d, of course.) Jul 15 16:42:56 *nod* Jul 15 16:44:54 cut out everything between "script" and "end script" and put your stuff in there Jul 15 16:45:05 cargo cult it in for a quick start :-) Jul 15 16:45:45 Yeah, I only need it at startup, so cargo cult look sufficient. Jul 15 16:48:48 use /var/palm/event.d so you don't have to modify the rootfs Jul 15 16:49:22 never knew about that one, thanks :-) Jul 15 16:52:27 5~5~I tend to modify the rootfs with gay abandon though... I wonder if I should svn /etc on this phone since it's a loaner... Jul 15 17:00:17 sbromwich: you focus on battery life in your kernels right? Jul 15 17:06:47 ~ban k- Jul 15 17:15:42 egaudet: doesn't seem to have worked, lol Jul 15 17:40:53 * Mousey thinks . o O ( banhammerung? ) Jul 15 17:51:48 ~seen oil Jul 15 17:51:51 oil is currently on #webos-internals (8h 33m 1s), last said: 'navit is hybrid? or full pdk?'. Jul 15 17:54:17 hi, anyone tried running visualboyadvance under webos 1.4.5? it crashes after rom selection, I thought that it has the fstab problem, but running it as root from commandline results in a gdb run and a luna crash.... Jul 15 18:01:55 ah, I found the thread on precentral Jul 15 18:12:48 who ever the mod is may want to ban k- Jul 15 18:20:37 CTLAdvance: Try rwhitby Jul 15 18:38:27 cryptk|work: yes Jul 15 18:40:36 hello. Jul 15 18:41:04 hi Jul 15 18:41:08 Everytime I restart my phone the Messaging.app reset the notification prefs. should I just dump the pref file? If so, anyone know where it's at? Jul 15 20:06:04 ~seen jhojho Jul 15 20:06:09 jhojho is currently on #webos-internals, last said: 'yay. super sekret warthog kernel boots. now on to step 2 but that's tomorrow....'. Jul 15 20:06:19 he died in a fire Jul 15 20:06:23 lol Jul 15 20:06:37 I was going to talk to him about upgrading the libc on the pre Jul 15 20:06:52 I had tested it a while ago for him and it didn't work, but I have some ideas and I want to give it another go Jul 15 20:07:16 I am thinking it is going to possibly require a kernel recompile to make it work Jul 15 20:07:23 but it should get us some extra speed Jul 15 20:08:41 :/ Jul 15 20:08:45 issue with my slice Jul 15 20:08:49 node won't build Jul 15 20:25:02 Hi brand new to Palm Pre,,,is there an easier way of "typing: upupdowndown etc. than literally typing it for develop mode? Jul 15 20:25:49 yes, but I can't remember it. and you only eed to type it in once Jul 15 20:26:06 cmon, you have to love that bit, it's an awesome easter egg Jul 15 20:26:50 ok..so you only do it once...that;s ok...thanks...thought I was missing something Jul 15 20:27:21 yea, you do it once, turn dev mode on, and then you only have to do it again if you want to turn dev mode off Jul 15 20:29:05 thanks...how may meg is preware? (am forced to use limited 3g at moment here with my new phone in Deutschland) Jul 15 20:29:22 it's like 3mb i think Jul 15 20:29:30 why not use wifi? Jul 15 20:30:03 the wifi in the hotel doesnt work with the Pre Jul 15 20:30:08 ah Jul 15 20:30:17 i think you can install it using the usb thing too Jul 15 20:30:20 from your computer Jul 15 20:30:51 it wants a login code...which works fine on a regular browser...don;t know why it wouldnt work on the Pre Jul 15 20:31:08 Anyway Starbucks saved the day with 1.4.5 anyway! Jul 15 20:32:47 alright I;m up to step 2 of installing preware...Run WebOS Quick Install...is this an app I need to download first via app store? Jul 15 20:33:04 no, quick install is a pc app Jul 15 20:33:28 ah ok...so I connect Pre to USB cable Jul 15 20:34:43 yeah Jul 15 20:34:57 thanks for help...sorry for basic question...just trying to get my head around a whole new world...lot of changes since the Trep 680! Jul 15 20:36:22 cryptk|work: you ~seen'd me? Jul 15 20:36:45 oil, go back to the gulf Jul 15 20:38:53 Last question..once Developer mode is enabled..does one need to un enable it again? Jul 15 20:40:04 not unless your paranoid Jul 15 20:42:03 lol Jul 15 20:42:48 thanks...also just found a great doc on precentral that outlines the whole process...thanks for your help. Jul 15 20:55:20 oil: indeed I did Jul 15 20:55:45 well here i am :) Jul 15 20:56:05 I was going to mention that it seems like either the ipk for wirc 0.2.4 is bad OR that preware isn't installing it correctly Jul 15 20:56:19 the service that is built into it is not being isntalled Jul 15 20:56:38 I even tried installing it at the command line with ipkg install and that was a no-go there as well Jul 15 20:57:19 any errors? Jul 15 20:57:26 also when it gets installed (via either method) the upstart service cannot see the wircd service (it could before I accidentally upgraded wirc w/o 1.4.5 Jul 15 20:57:32 yes, hold one and I will get them Jul 15 20:57:44 god this is pissing me off Jul 15 20:58:15 dns won't update for my site so I can't check if its up or not Jul 15 20:58:54 can someone tell me if both notebook-cooling.com and silentbluesystems.com are up Jul 15 20:59:15 oil: http://webos.pastebin.com/mzDXaUbn Jul 15 20:59:31 that is from doing ipkg install at the command line Jul 15 20:59:51 hm Jul 15 21:00:15 so its not creating those files? Jul 15 21:00:29 doesn't seem to be, where should I check in the filesystem Jul 15 21:00:43 where it wants them to be Jul 15 21:00:52 line 11 and 12 Jul 15 21:00:52 and where would that be? Jul 15 21:00:56 ahh Jul 15 21:01:43 though, i had nothing to do with packaging it Jul 15 21:01:47 so i wont be much help :/ Jul 15 21:04:16 nope, there is no wirc folder in /media/cryptofs Jul 15 21:05:05 also, if I install an ipk through preware, and it is something in the feed, should preware pick it up and prompt me if there is an updated version available? Jul 15 21:05:12 assuming that the package installed correctly? Jul 15 21:05:37 oh Jul 15 21:06:07 there is the ipkg problem with installing an older version number then whats in the feed Jul 15 21:06:15 disable the testing feed Jul 15 21:06:17 update feeds Jul 15 21:06:24 then try installing 024 from the feed Jul 15 21:06:47 ok Jul 15 21:07:12 but i gotta head back to work Jul 15 21:07:15 so if you still have trouble after that Jul 15 21:07:24 id say look for rwhitby, he will know more about the package :/ Jul 15 21:07:37 ok Jul 15 21:09:13 sweet, working wIRC again Jul 15 21:09:31 and here I am! Jul 15 21:10:37 well, that was much easier... I never thought to check if the new wIRC was only in the testing feeds Jul 15 21:11:34 glibc... why do you take so long to compile Jul 15 21:12:03 I could make it faster but I am weary of compiling glibc with concurrent makes (not sure why I think it would be a bad idea... I just do) Jul 15 21:22:59 run! Jul 15 21:24:13 OH NOES, hows it goin zsoc Jul 15 21:28:32 wat Jul 15 21:40:58 sup? Jul 15 21:40:58 time to go home Jul 15 21:41:58 too hot Jul 15 21:42:00 that's whats up Jul 15 21:42:16 this summer has felt like i've been in a damned jungle Jul 15 21:43:51 how are things going with you eieio Jul 15 21:45:46 not too bad Jul 15 21:45:54 it's reasonably hot here too, though Jul 15 21:46:10 or rather, fairly hot Jul 15 21:46:52 any plans for the summer? vacation or trips ? Jul 15 21:47:06 already took some last month Jul 15 21:48:05 mostly just work right now Jul 15 21:50:25 feel any different with HP running the show? that HP VP guy has been doing lots of rounds recently it seems Jul 15 21:53:31 summer is seattle is the usual. :) Jul 15 21:53:44 gorgeous! Jul 15 22:01:40 okay. looking for people with 0.5.6 govnah problems. Jul 15 22:01:52 msg me if you can help test Jul 15 22:02:28 attn canadians Jul 15 22:02:28 i have accepted an offer to relocate to your nation and abuse your federal government at the office of auditor general Jul 15 22:19:55 jhojho: me. Jul 15 22:27:26 bpadalino: not too much, but there have been some positive differences Jul 15 22:29:20 any of you notice on thunderchief you're not able to reliably turn off compcache? Jul 15 22:29:45 oil: have you thought about adding govnah profile support to Mode Switcher? Jul 15 22:31:47 if you went through the thread and notice from the previous F10X kernels you would see that compcache is unchangable Jul 15 22:37:41 lulz Jul 15 22:41:20 if the Ev symbol is gray does that mean it's unavailable or something Jul 15 22:56:19 who has onlive Jul 15 22:56:54 me Jul 15 22:58:08 how much do games cost Jul 15 22:58:46 I just got a invite, but I don't have windows installed atm Jul 15 22:59:48 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2557401 Jul 15 23:00:06 A scientific poll about overclocking. Jul 15 23:00:27 i should start looking for a new job Jul 15 23:01:18 their usuall 20 Jul 15 23:01:19 bbl Jul 15 23:02:12 using scientific and poll in the same sentence... Jul 15 23:03:41 my kernels suck Jul 15 23:06:09 eieio: i know you guys have been busy .. any idea when the sources for 1.4.5 will be posted to the web? Jul 15 23:12:12 rwhitby: did they invert the phrasing of the poll? :) Jul 15 23:12:34 * dtzWill is being obnoxious. consider it revenge for making me re-read your post and the poll 3x lol Jul 15 23:14:58 ka6sox-work!!! back from holidays? Jul 15 23:15:23 dtzWill: should I have retweeted it instead? Jul 15 23:15:35 unfortunatly.... Jul 15 23:16:00 rwhitby: lol Jul 15 23:16:11 * ka6sox-work washes clothes, throws some more food in the chilly bin and heads to where the pixi can't grab onto any wifi signal :P Jul 15 23:16:17 maybe you really meant "if you have no problems please tell us" :) Jul 15 23:16:27 suppose we wouldn't mind people posting to that effect :D Jul 15 23:17:11 uNiXpSyChO: why is compcache unchangable? Jul 15 23:53:37 odd... I'm now getting location almost instantly, but the accuracy sucks Jul 16 00:22:07 datafirm: its setup to be integrated when modeswitcher dev gets around to it Jul 16 00:24:37 oil: I actually added the support for it by using the interface for querying the profiles that you added to govnah, but the problem is that since govnah is not a background application the card is shown every time govnah is launched Jul 16 00:24:56 no, we found that is a problem with webos Jul 16 00:25:02 but is it fixed? Jul 16 00:25:08 we moved it to the service Jul 16 00:25:22 luna-sends don't spawn the flasher card Jul 16 00:25:30 but the same request from an app does Jul 16 00:25:39 so how I initiate the query now? Jul 16 00:25:45 let me find it Jul 16 00:26:18 I know that it is a problem in webos that caused me to make MS run in backgroundi n the first place Jul 16 00:26:32 yeah Jul 16 00:26:40 it probably wont be fixed either Jul 16 00:26:55 since js services will do what we want when they get to it Jul 16 00:27:13 but since we have the govnah c service, it sjust luna-sending govnah Jul 16 00:27:37 do you need me to whip up sample code Jul 16 00:27:42 yes and I will most likely have to change MS at some point but the patch requirement for making it bg app was quick fix and will have to do for now Jul 16 00:28:06 or is telling you org.webosinternals.govnah service with getProfiles and setProfile methods enough? Jul 16 00:28:18 yes it is enough Jul 16 00:28:36 so I will check that and bring back the govnah support for next release of MS Jul 16 00:28:39 getProfiles as one param, returnid Jul 16 00:28:55 the id of modeswitcher, it returns the profiles with a launch command like it was before Jul 16 00:29:08 yep thats good Jul 16 00:29:13 then setProfile takes the id of the profile you which to apply Jul 16 00:29:16 Yoppo: any problems with the service method, just let me know. Jul 16 00:29:16 now there should not be any problems Jul 16 00:29:24 yeah Jul 16 00:29:29 and thats in the released version Jul 16 00:29:30 I will do that, but dont think so Jul 16 00:29:36 i dont remember which version is the first to have it Jul 16 00:29:46 well I just make sure I have the latest Jul 16 00:29:55 (and tell your users the same) Jul 16 00:29:59 * rwhitby bbiab Jul 16 00:30:05 will do Jul 16 00:30:26 well thats great Jul 16 00:30:30 integration is always fun Jul 16 00:30:34 :) Jul 16 00:30:42 it makes both apps more useful Jul 16 00:30:50 thats true Jul 16 00:31:14 now I only need to get back to MS coding and get these patches out of my way... Jul 16 00:31:24 lol Jul 16 00:31:41 nginx is being difficult Jul 16 00:42:39