**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 20 02:59:56 2010 Jul 20 03:00:58 only if it involves puppies Jul 20 03:01:55 no puppies Jul 20 03:02:16 but it might improve interactive feel Jul 20 03:02:37 NEIN Jul 20 03:09:52 so, I need some widk help... ecore is failing to make stage Jul 20 03:09:53 http://pastebin.com/sHG8U6jR Jul 20 03:10:20 rwhitby, ^^ Jul 20 03:18:53 meh... just moved them to nonworking Jul 20 04:09:30 My phone is not able to pull any images from the Palm Official, Beta, and Web catalogs. Just a whole bunch of blank. And when I try to install a beta app, the bar at the bottom of the scene says "Download Paused" Jul 20 04:12:26 Oh no! Looks like someone has a doctors appointment :P Jul 20 04:12:46 DOITDOITDOIT Jul 20 04:12:56 LOL Jul 20 04:13:04 I triple dog dare ya Jul 20 04:17:44 so... the dropbox sourcecode has a heavy dependency on nautilus... Jul 20 04:19:50 argh... I just found a big stopper... Jul 20 04:20:00 in the drain? Jul 20 04:20:02 :p Jul 20 04:20:15 the part of the code in their "GPL" sourcecode that downloads a closed source binary to make it all work... Jul 20 04:20:23 so that scraps that idea Jul 20 04:21:46 I blame oil Jul 20 04:22:05 that is some downright not right-ness Jul 20 04:22:20 the dropbox stuff... I am totally for blaming oil Jul 20 04:23:49 wait... maybe not... Jul 20 04:30:57 blaming oil is always a good thing to do. It cancles out the awesomeness of wirc Jul 20 04:31:32 blame BP. it's not the oils fault :( Jul 20 04:31:44 bleh Jul 20 04:32:48 please never refer to oil as the oil... we don't want to let him know just how awesome he (and therefore wirc) is Jul 20 04:33:14 its a secret! Jul 20 04:33:28 I bet his computer is beeping like crazy about now, lol Jul 20 04:33:34 anyways, I am off for the night Jul 20 04:33:38 later Jul 20 04:33:39 its not yet Jul 20 04:33:44 oil oil oil oil oil Jul 20 04:33:46 NOW it is Jul 20 04:33:47 lol Jul 20 04:45:47 lol Jul 20 04:50:55 the_oil needs to go back to the gulf where it belongs Jul 20 05:06:25 the_oil: do you think Preware 1.2.1 is a release candidate? Jul 20 05:06:49 no Jul 20 05:07:15 i think the appid business should be properly fixed before mass release Jul 20 05:08:27 so you think there is going to be a significant number of incorrectly named package files with postinst scripts? Jul 20 05:08:53 i dont know Jul 20 05:09:29 I personally haven't seen any incorrectly named file since the very early days of precentral homebrew Jul 20 05:12:48 it just seems like we should fix it properly :) Jul 20 05:12:57 maybe im only saying that because i know its not in the mojo Jul 20 05:12:57 haha Jul 20 05:14:17 well, for a big package like a kernel, extracting the control file is going to slow down the whole installation process. Jul 20 05:14:33 cause you have to unpack the ar file and unpack the control.tar.gz file Jul 20 05:14:55 so we'd be slowing *every* install down for the sake of a corner case that I expect no-one will ever see. Jul 20 05:16:16 so you dont think we should ever properly fix it? Jul 20 05:16:25 if thats the case, might as well release what we have Jul 20 05:17:20 well, I'm thinking about whether we'd need to unpack the packages for any reason in Preware Gen 2. Jul 20 05:17:34 *random thought* why not compare the md5sums of the package against a recorded correct md5sum for those that have postinit. (although I have no idea if thats possible/feasible/etc) Jul 20 05:17:37 * halfhalo goes back to pgp Jul 20 05:17:41 php* Jul 20 05:20:34 halfhalo: not feasible. custom feeds can have anything. Jul 20 05:22:14 the_oil: it is possible in the future that we might need to repack and sign-on-the-fly packages for installation, if we use the installhistory database to trigger parallel palm-initiated installations. at that point, we'd have the info we need and could validate the passed in package. Jul 20 05:22:27 but that's a Gen 2 idea. Jul 20 05:23:54 would unpacking control really take that long Jul 20 05:25:26 About my problem that I posted above a while back, do I really need to doctor? I have a feeling there's something I can do to fix it, I just don't know what it is. Jul 20 05:25:31 egaudet: you need to traverse the whole ar file, and then unpack the small control.tar.gz file. it's traversing the whole of the ar file which takes a while for big packages Jul 20 05:25:44 gollyzila|comp: delete the installHistory database Jul 20 05:26:04 there's a thread about it on PreCentral Jul 20 05:26:25 rwhitby: I already did that and rebooted. I've followed everything on the threads I've found on Precentral Jul 20 05:26:43 gollyzila|comp: how did it happen? Jul 20 05:27:20 I believe it started when I updated Save/restore and then I updated a beta application through the app catalog. Jul 20 05:29:16 what would save/restore have to do with it? Jul 20 05:29:49 I was updating an app with Preware and another app with the App Catalog. I read somewhere this was bad Jul 20 05:30:21 rwhitby, record existing postinsts, install, check what's new Jul 20 05:31:21 egaudet: seriously, when was the last time you saw an incorrectly named ipk file? Jul 20 05:31:48 whenever I'm involved and do novacom put file:///tmp/blah.ipk < org.webosinternals..... :P Jul 20 05:33:03 if anyone cares, zis is how the models will be set up in ze rails patchportal. Users and groups can have custom tailored permissions (ie if member of group xyz can update patch xyz or if maintainer of that patch) http://silentbluesystems.com/PPOverviewRails.txt Jul 20 05:33:05 aside from that, I haven't seen many out-of-feed packages so I don't know Jul 20 05:37:56 actually, thats kinda wrong. Output has been tweaked alot Jul 20 05:38:01 rwhitby: So do you think I'm going to have to doctor my phone? Jul 20 05:39:30 gollyzila|comp: no idea Jul 20 05:39:57 gollyzila|comp: you were updating an app in preware and an app in app catalog at the same time? Jul 20 05:40:07 rwhitby: Yes Jul 20 05:40:11 you must have started the preware one first? Jul 20 05:40:18 yes correct Jul 20 05:40:27 ERU should fix that Jul 20 05:40:41 I'll try it Jul 20 05:41:18 what's the symptoms again? Jul 20 05:44:43 Unable to see any images from Palm's app feeds (official, beta, web apps) and not being able to download any of them Jul 20 05:46:12 I installed ERU, I just have to wait for Pre Backup Utility to finish creating a backup so i can luna restart Jul 20 05:48:17 oh, have you been using Pre Backup Utility? Jul 20 05:48:22 have you done a restore with it? Jul 20 05:51:51 this is my second time creating a back up. i have never restored with it. Right now it says Processing... at the bottom of the scene and the progress pill next to it is full. its been like for a good 5 minutes Jul 20 05:52:26 morning Jul 20 05:52:35 testing wirc :) Jul 20 05:52:37 evening here :) Jul 20 05:53:15 fraturday here Jul 20 05:53:43 tuesday, 7:52am Jul 20 05:54:14 monday, 10:54pm Jul 20 05:54:43 laterz Jul 20 05:54:47 you must be in sweden or something? ;) Jul 20 05:54:55 fraturday, fish o'clock Jul 20 05:54:57 switzerland :) Jul 20 05:56:55 must be breakfast time. Jul 20 05:58:13 yup Jul 20 05:59:11 http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/palm-pre-hits-1-2ghz-courtesy-of-sr71-blackbird-kernel-not-for/ ... Jul 20 06:07:09 the_oil, egaudet: I've implemented packageid extraction. Testing now. Jul 20 06:11:59 Pre backup utility still at the same place. Jul 20 06:18:39 gollyzila|comp: I've personally never run that application. It's too heavy handed for my liking. Jul 20 06:23:39 egaudet: works for file://media/internal/foo.ipk ;) Jul 20 06:27:03 the_oil, egaudet: Preware 1.2.2 in the testing feed Jul 20 06:39:46 rwhitby: your concern of speed, did you make it so it only did it if Jul 20 06:40:08 couldn't you make it so it only looks for it when one isn't passed? Jul 20 07:43:13 oil: I worked out a fast way to do it Jul 20 07:43:47 he was shocked ;) Jul 20 07:46:21 oil: I worked out a fast way to do it Jul 20 07:46:32 ah Jul 20 07:49:43 welp Jul 20 07:49:55 it looks like my vzw pre is not chuck norris Jul 20 07:50:03 membooting sr71 fails Jul 20 07:50:50 bumers Jul 20 07:51:00 weakling Jul 20 07:51:05 hmmm...I guess I should memboot mine too. Jul 20 07:51:11 chuck norris'd Jul 20 07:51:35 been using UK all day for testing. Jul 20 07:53:31 yeah memboot apparently just boots the ondisk kernel in Jul 20 07:53:33 sigh Jul 20 07:53:48 here's to hoping my gsm pre is chuck norris Jul 20 07:54:11 i still have 3 more chances for chuck norris Jul 20 07:58:26 oil: so 1.2.2 doesn't use pkg or title at all, so I removed them from the api v14. Jul 20 07:59:02 ok Jul 20 08:05:10 rwhitby: now we can be sure if something happens that its packaging problems Jul 20 08:05:31 very true Jul 20 08:35:40 hmmm....wIRC 0.2.99.2 is showing up in Preware for a 1.4.1.1 Pre....wonder how badly that will break things. Jul 20 08:37:45 it just won't work Jul 20 08:42:03 * rwhitby bbl Jul 20 09:57:37 hi all Jul 20 09:57:57 is it posible to reverse engineer the code which is already on the palm ? Jul 20 10:02:52 ? Jul 20 10:03:06 in one sense that's what this project has done for over a year Jul 20 10:07:29 okay, is there a good description somewhere ? Jul 20 10:16:50 what are you asking about? Jul 20 10:19:26 I would like to modify the exchange connector so it works better with Lotus Notes Traveler Jul 20 10:19:43 that's probably closed source code Jul 20 10:20:10 the early work involved javascript which is essentially a readable text file Jul 20 10:20:19 but.... Jul 20 10:20:21 as well as the bootloader protocols and recovery methods Jul 20 10:26:45 so basicly that is not possible what I want ? Jul 20 10:38:21 SimpsonTP: What Problems do you have with the traveler server? Jul 20 10:39:36 well I modified the traveler server to work better, but I though if everything is javascript it should be fairly easy to copy the exchange account management and make a Notes version of it Jul 20 10:39:43 e.g. Notes icon on top of it ;) Jul 20 10:39:54 and I would love to figure out why it is not syncing my tasks Jul 20 10:46:42 Not sure if traveler supports the syncing of tasks Jul 20 10:47:23 hape, it does, it works fine with my nokia Jul 20 10:47:40 hape, I did some tests before I start complaining ;) Jul 20 10:50:18 ok, so only the Pre do not support the tasks part fpr syncing Jul 20 10:50:50 well it does with exchange Jul 20 10:52:35 afik the syncing part is a binary by palm. Not javascript Jul 20 11:08:28 hape, uhm did you answer, my log is full with netsplit :( Jul 20 11:25:35 ok time to doctor my pre Jul 20 11:25:42 coz i f it up a little Jul 20 11:28:12 afternoon Jul 20 11:29:58 where does preware keeps the list with installed apps? Jul 20 11:30:10 i want to copy it from my palm so i can erase the usb drive Jul 20 11:31:19 you can use the "saved package list" in preware Jul 20 11:31:29 and backup that with "save/restore", also from webos-internals Jul 20 11:31:42 yes but I want to copy it... and i wonder where preware keeps that Jul 20 11:31:59 oh so there is no way to copy the "saved package list" withous using save/restore? Jul 20 11:32:02 :S Jul 20 11:33:24 you could check in the save/restore scripts where it's stored :) Jul 20 11:34:12 let me do that Jul 20 11:35:05 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/saverestore.git;a=blob;f=scripts/org.webosinternals.preware;h=a8edd665adb0e9bd7c9b27340320e61dd4d85d4f;hb=ce016313dab0543461c285740196680dd3cc1114 Jul 20 11:35:28 ok got it Jul 20 11:35:39 shit i pressed the wrong option in reset options Jul 20 11:35:39 :S Jul 20 11:36:06 i think its too early for this kind of work Jul 20 11:36:07 ;P Jul 20 11:38:30 SimpsonTP: afik the syncing part is a binary by palm. Not javascript Jul 20 11:50:43 Fixed bug in Preware 1.2.2 - 1.2.3 in testing feed now. Jul 20 11:51:06 oh, just installed 1.2.2 a minute ago Jul 20 11:55:36 hmm Jul 20 11:55:55 shit my palm pre dont want to go to usb mode Jul 20 11:56:02 Hold down the Up button on the volume rocker Jul 20 11:56:04 While holding the Up button, power on the Pre Jul 20 11:56:07 :( Jul 20 11:57:59 yeah, that should work Jul 20 11:58:08 but have the usb-cable plugged in already Jul 20 11:58:34 yeah finally after 10th try Jul 20 12:02:43 :((( Jul 20 12:02:51 now it times out at 4% Jul 20 12:03:02 webos doctor says that the device was disconnected :( Jul 20 12:04:03 hrmm Jul 20 12:08:35 oh restarting novacomd on ubuntu helped Jul 20 12:12:18 * rwhitby bbt Jul 20 12:46:01 updating to preware 1.2.3 Jul 20 12:49:26 hape, and if I would like to take a look at it, where should I look ? Jul 20 12:59:58 SimpsonTP: Check /var/log/messages when you start manual calendar sync Jul 20 13:00:23 or when you create an account Jul 20 13:41:53 hape, well I actualy mean where could I look and figure out what is available as JS Jul 20 13:51:51 SimpsonTP: I do not know, I epect that know part of the sync engine inside the Pre is done in Javascript Jul 20 13:52:26 But to be sure you will need to dig down from the what you find in var/log/messages Jul 20 14:22:17 hape, nothing in the log Jul 20 14:34:49 shit Jul 20 14:34:57 the camera app is not working for me after doctoring Jul 20 14:35:02 i get grey screen Jul 20 15:15:16 Hi all, I recently swapped my phone because the old one broke but before I turned it in I backed up my Palmdatabase.db3 file (Messaging history) and once I got the new phone I replaced this file with the old one and it worked beautifully. I am able to see all of my old text messages from before I swapped the phone but now I have a problem. For some reason the phone cannot save new text messages now. I see the preview of the message but Jul 20 15:16:15 My phone is not able to pull any images from the Palm Official, Beta, and Web catalogs. Just a whole bunch of blank. And when I try to install a beta app, the bar at the bottom of the scene says "Download Paused" Jul 20 15:16:58 ^^^^^^^^I'm still experiencing that bug. And I just learned that my mom's Palm Pre is having the exact same issue. Jul 20 15:18:54 Okay. I believe this is a Wifi issue. I just turned off wifi and turned on cell data and the issues are gone and I was able to install an app. Jul 20 15:25:09 It looks like my problem was due to me inputing a list of websites to block through my router Jul 20 16:05:37 Is patch submission still VIA dBsooner? Jul 20 16:06:46 asedeno_work: I think so Jul 20 16:07:30 btw, everyone waiting for the cool dropbox stuff with save/restore... I am going on a buisness trip so progress will be kinda slow for the next two weeks but I do plan to continue work on it. Jul 20 18:27:16 hmmm.... new plan for rails patch portal. use git to store the files... Jul 20 18:27:42 whats wrong with the php patch portal we already have? Jul 20 18:27:47 wait, I lied. the grit library only pulls Jul 20 18:27:54 Im bored and want to do something in rails Jul 20 18:28:02 and the patch portal isn't a blog, so rails wont be much use xD Jul 20 18:28:05 no reason besides that Jul 20 18:28:08 lol Jul 20 18:28:22 zis is how ze models will be set up: http://silentbluesystems.com/PPOverviewRails.txt Jul 20 18:36:09 3 lines of code. Generated 3 models, 3 controllers, 12 pages. I heart rails right now Jul 20 18:49:37 ka6sox-work: so I found out I will only be working at night Jul 20 18:49:47 your a vampire? Jul 20 18:50:10 For the next 2 weeks I am Jul 20 18:50:25 Anyone in here near Burbank/La area? Jul 20 18:50:32 si Jul 20 18:50:44 I will be about 2 hours north of there for the next 2 weeks Jul 20 18:51:08 bleh. nothing important is north of here Jul 20 18:51:09 halfhalo_class: you up for a roadtrip? Lol Jul 20 18:51:19 where/why/what/pie Jul 20 18:51:46 Just to hang and have a beer is all Jul 20 18:51:54 i heard that 90% of population of LA are mexican/spanish Jul 20 18:51:56 I am gonna be there on buisness Jul 20 18:52:09 en0x: you are about right Jul 20 18:52:27 wait a second... im not in CA next week.... why did I forget this... Jul 20 18:52:32 wth Jul 20 18:52:33 I will be in ridgecrest Jul 20 18:52:39 * halfhalo_class slaps himself Jul 20 18:52:51 I am there for 2 weeks, lol... Till the 6th Jul 20 18:52:55 is an LA a nice city to visit? a lot of things to see? Jul 20 18:53:03 I'll be in Kauai from the 25th till the 5thish Jul 20 18:53:16 LA has.... issues Jul 20 18:53:25 en0x: tons to see there, that is where hollywood is Jul 20 18:53:40 But it isn't as glamouous as it looks in the movied Jul 20 18:53:41 f.... holywood Jul 20 18:53:46 Sunset drive Jul 20 18:53:57 Hollywood sign Jul 20 18:53:57 well Jul 20 18:54:03 nyc looks nice on movies too Jul 20 18:54:07 [; Jul 20 18:54:22 Nyc is better than la imho Jul 20 18:54:34 i still preffer boston :P Jul 20 18:54:41 Never been Jul 20 18:55:15 good... we don';t need ppl from out of state making traffic Jul 20 18:55:19 *evil smile* Jul 20 18:55:34 Hahaha Jul 20 18:55:59 like those new yorkers and nj ppl Jul 20 18:56:04 can;t freaking drive :S Jul 20 18:56:19 Haha, I know a few nj people, lol Jul 20 18:56:33 me too :P Jul 20 18:56:51 Smoking my e-cig in a bar at the airport Jul 20 18:56:56 but i think that ct ppl are the worst Jul 20 18:57:10 oh u can still smoke cigs at an airport? Jul 20 18:57:18 i miss that :( Jul 20 18:57:20 This isn't a real cig Jul 20 18:57:28 It is an electronic cig Jul 20 18:57:29 i know it doesnt smell Jul 20 18:57:38 but it still has nicotine Jul 20 18:57:39 There is no burning Jul 20 18:57:54 Yes, but it isn't smoking cause there is no smoke Jul 20 18:58:04 Just water vapor Jul 20 18:58:14 well when i smoke i like to smell it too Jul 20 18:58:36 You can smell this, smells like whatever flavor I put in it Jul 20 18:58:50 Atomic Fireballs Jul 20 18:58:53 This flavor is atomic fireball, smells like cinnimon Jul 20 18:59:01 Yep Jul 20 18:59:03 lol Jul 20 18:59:13 It is my fav flavor Jul 20 18:59:18 do they have a flavor of "young pusse"? Jul 20 18:59:31 ka6sox-work: did you see my earlier chat? Jul 20 18:59:37 yes Jul 20 18:59:42 en0x: not that I know of Jul 20 18:59:51 You up for a road trip? Lol Jul 20 19:01:11 cat getcapacity on my mugen 1400mah battery Jul 20 19:01:21 1171.261 Jul 20 19:01:30 lol Jul 20 19:01:31 on the stock battery Jul 20 19:01:39 1154.760 Jul 20 19:01:52 truth in advertising? Jul 20 19:01:55 cryptk|pre, lemme see, I think I might be in Palmdale anyways? Jul 20 19:02:01 where did you find the capacity Jul 20 19:02:07 Where is palmdale? Jul 20 19:02:09 wanna check mine Jul 20 19:02:19 jhojho: new battery? Jul 20 19:02:25 Plant 42 is there (aka SkunkWorks) Jul 20 19:02:25 old Jul 20 19:02:29 http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png hehe nice theme ;d Jul 20 19:02:30 got it last year Jul 20 19:02:50 cat /sys/devices/w1*/32*/getcapacity Jul 20 19:02:50 cryptk|pre, about 1.5hrs south. Jul 20 19:03:28 1296.884 for my Mugen 1400 Jul 20 19:05:59 1297.884 on my Mugen Jul 20 19:06:05 CRAP Jul 20 19:06:11 I WANT A REFUND Jul 20 19:06:14 =D Jul 20 19:06:35 Back, had a phone call Jul 20 19:29:05 fuuuuuu Jul 20 19:29:15 forgot to add a field to three of the models Jul 20 19:30:34 wahahahahaha Jul 20 19:35:33 i cant wait to go home Jul 20 19:35:44 lol Jul 20 19:35:50 Got all the models set up properly Jul 20 19:36:17 I can has infinite loop using HABTM! Jul 20 19:36:31 who cares?! :P Jul 20 19:36:57 package.first.users.first.packages.first... Jul 20 19:38:19 hmm Jul 20 19:38:41 there has been only one new app today :S Jul 20 19:38:45 err update Jul 20 19:38:54 err nvm Jul 20 19:38:54 ;p Jul 20 19:41:33 killall httpd Jul 20 19:41:43 doitdoitdoitdoit Jul 20 19:42:05 Still no 1.4.5... Jul 20 19:42:21 Sprint used to always get these first... Jul 20 19:42:25 and u wont see it in this week Jul 20 19:42:43 1.4.5 has been crossed for us Jul 20 19:42:49 and we will get 1.5 in fall Jul 20 19:42:50 :p Jul 20 19:42:51 en0x: you know something I don't? Jul 20 19:43:02 he's NOT in the US. Jul 20 19:43:07 i am Jul 20 19:43:12 really? Jul 20 19:43:18 yap Jul 20 19:43:22 oh...nm Jul 20 19:43:25 [; Jul 20 19:43:37 cryptk|pre: i'm just horsing around Jul 20 19:43:44 no 1.4.5 for YOU! Jul 20 19:43:48 Lol Jul 20 19:43:53 like i care Jul 20 19:43:53 :p Jul 20 19:44:06 when does the PDK contest end ? Jul 20 19:44:15 it havent even started lol Jul 20 19:44:30 oh it did Jul 20 19:44:31 PDK Hot Apps Promotion Has Started! Jul 20 19:44:37 but why no leaderboard? :( Jul 20 19:44:50 bpadalino|work: sept 30th Jul 20 19:44:50 Anyways... Time to go get in line to board my flight... After 3 beers at the airport bar, lol Jul 20 19:45:04 phew 3 beers is nothing Jul 20 19:45:33 after 3 beers i'm getting to a car and start it up... i only drive after 9 beers Jul 20 19:45:43 They were tall ones, so about a 6 pack Jul 20 19:45:52 That's all I had time for Jul 20 19:49:11 whos is using 1.2ghz kernel? Jul 20 19:50:22 not i Jul 20 19:50:30 vzw pre is weak Jul 20 19:50:41 lies Jul 20 19:51:06 sprint pre is a beast! Jul 20 19:51:15 u can do whatever u want to it and it still works Jul 20 19:51:15 ;] Jul 20 19:54:28 okay. my sprint pre is booting it now Jul 20 19:54:39 lets see if it finishes booting sr71 Jul 20 19:59:44 * oil ran it on his dev sprint pre for all of like 5 mins Jul 20 19:59:46 lol Jul 20 19:59:50 me too Jul 20 19:59:52 first time seeing red temp Jul 20 19:59:55 just rebooted out of it Jul 20 20:00:00 it's my main phone Jul 20 20:00:11 so so far, 1 chuck norris pre and 1 not so good Jul 20 20:00:12 (though, i only ran it to see if the ghz conversion in govnah was correct) Jul 20 20:00:30 i dont dare put it on my main pre, i need that to, you know, continue working, haha Jul 20 20:01:16 oil, it's okay for 5 min =) Jul 20 20:02:11 * oil leaves main pre on stock kernel, lol Jul 20 20:03:25 oil, warthog ftw Jul 20 20:03:31 runs cooler Jul 20 20:03:33 and longer Jul 20 20:03:50 ka6sox got 4 days apparently. Jul 20 20:04:09 * oil leaves main pre on stock kernel, lol Jul 20 20:04:19 I had a pre last 2 days on wifi only and with 38% left. Jul 20 20:04:29 so even my main pre is running warthog now. Jul 20 20:04:39 tossing the pre on the touchstone is in my routine now Jul 20 20:04:44 long battery life is not really an issue Jul 20 20:05:11 oh wait Jul 20 20:06:25 this vzw pre does boot sr71 Jul 20 20:06:41 it's not really stable on it though Jul 20 20:12:16 okay. Jul 20 20:12:40 i guess this is sorta a chuck norris pre. so 1.75 for 2 Jul 20 20:24:29 ok, got the theme set up Jul 20 20:24:34 http://silentbluesystems.com/users# Jul 20 20:25:10 Gotta implement mah user roles. Jul 20 20:43:39 what does the webOS doctor do to a phone running a custom kernel Jul 20 20:43:46 restore to the palm kernel? Jul 20 20:45:40 sup homies, is anyone here familiar with navit? Jul 20 20:50:34 torchie, yes everything in rootfs / Jul 20 20:50:45 alright that's cool Jul 20 20:50:46 and I think /boot Jul 20 20:50:52 I'm having a strange radio problem Jul 20 20:50:59 verify with the kernel guys Jul 20 20:53:42 is webos doctor magical Jul 20 20:53:47 I really need some magic :( Jul 20 20:54:01 Greetings internet Jul 20 20:56:46 how are things chrisa ? Jul 20 20:57:54 busy, but laid back Jul 20 20:58:02 enjoying the summertime ? Jul 20 20:58:40 northern california doesn't have seasons Jul 20 21:02:05 yeah it seemed like that since lat week it was hot as balls here, and it was still like 67 in SF Jul 20 21:07:04 a friend of mine got laid off today from their place of work, and i just haven't been able to think about doing much work since then Jul 20 21:11:59 bummers Jul 20 21:12:41 hape, nordatux, if you're here, I've made a start on a map downloader for navit Jul 20 21:12:55 and if anyone can make a progress pill work, I will love you forever Jul 20 22:16:08 lalalalala Jul 20 22:19:20 oh? Jul 20 22:19:42 hmmm. how am I going to do this.... Jul 20 22:20:22