**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 21 02:59:57 2010 Jul 21 02:59:59 2 vs 1 Jul 21 03:00:02 3 Jul 21 03:00:05 lol Jul 21 03:00:06 4 Jul 21 03:00:07 halfhalo: what client? Jul 21 03:00:09 :S Jul 21 03:00:16 adium... Jul 21 03:00:23 my computer hates me... Jul 21 03:00:37 halfhalo: should have said wirc, so we could have blamed oil Jul 21 03:00:43 hah Jul 21 03:00:49 * oil would have blamed it on plugin Jul 21 03:00:58 I'll blame oil anyways. OIL ITS ALL YOUR FAULT Jul 21 03:01:04 heh Jul 21 03:01:48 ANYWAYS, it looks like this: http://silentbluesystems.com/packages/new Jul 21 03:01:54 btw oil, remember how I said I would be back earlier just after I install 030? well I never came back, guess why? guess... Ok ill tell you, it sits at the main screen and says waiting for plugins! what the HECK is that? no excuse none at all :!!! Jul 21 03:02:01 halfhalo: meh, that's old news. Jul 21 03:02:16 fstab fixa Jul 21 03:02:21 oh right Jul 21 03:02:22 :P Jul 21 03:02:31 * Anivrom withdraws to the nearest corner and adorns the dunce hat Jul 21 03:02:42 and really, the problem is in the plugin xD Jul 21 03:02:49 haha Jul 21 03:03:15 Anivrom, thats reserved for me. Jul 21 03:03:25 I managed to kill my pre today Jul 21 03:03:41 dundundunnnnnn Jul 21 03:04:59 ok, power switch on my pre is definitely not broken but the plastic thing to push it is far away Jul 21 03:05:04 I love how the whole Chuck Norris/weakling Pre thing has taken on a life of it's own now :) Jul 21 03:05:28 oh god please just have done what I think you just did generator…. Jul 21 03:05:47 memcopy(&policy, newpolicy, sizeof(struct cpufreq_policy)) Jul 21 03:06:04 everything went to 0 and the pre stopped. Jul 21 03:07:54 ewww ubuntu Jul 21 03:08:01 oh, wait Jul 21 03:09:23 ruh ruh! Jul 21 03:10:45 whoever wrote bootie and made it so that I could memboot....thank you. Jul 21 03:11:29 trying out ubuntu netbook remix Jul 21 03:13:02 So, any objections to Preware 1.2.3 and Govnah 0.5.9 going to public feeds? Jul 21 03:14:44 Any voices in favour of such? Jul 21 03:15:27 rwhitby: I've just been using the regular testing stuff Jul 21 03:15:30 it seems to be ok Jul 21 03:19:43 oh, oil, I figured out how caching will work. Jul 21 03:20:14 good jorb? Jul 21 03:20:14 * bhuey doesn't know how to fix this plastic thing so that the switch will work again Jul 21 03:20:26 in memory out of process shared cache Jul 21 03:21:20 * ka6sox-work watches halfhalo OOM his machine and it goes on a rampage killing the HD. Jul 21 03:22:19 rails is to smart for that. Otherwise, damn straight Jul 21 03:22:41 So LunaSysMgr does a du of each of the apps in the cryptofs on boot, and this is why people get widely varying boot times. Jul 21 03:23:04 rwhitby: is the regular kernel in the feed as well ? Jul 21 03:23:08 Lots of 3D games => long boot time Jul 21 03:23:24 bhuey: Palm recovery kernel, yes. Jul 21 03:24:09 uberkernel ? Jul 21 03:24:10 that works fine Jul 21 03:24:31 * bhuey notes the power button works and clicks fine Jul 21 03:24:48 ...the plastic thing is f-ed up somehow Jul 21 03:27:29 don't know what to do about this Jul 21 03:28:19 superglue? Jul 21 03:30:19 the problem with the switch is that it's not backed against something so that it can be pressed Jul 21 03:31:06 rwhitby: Any idea why LunaSysMgr does this? Jul 21 03:31:44 Mercury: so that the app catalog knows if there is enough space to install a new app I suspect, although it would be easier to use df once I would have thought. Jul 21 03:32:09 Agreed. Jul 21 03:33:21 rwhitby: so they can show how large the app is on orange+tap? Jul 21 03:34:27 oil: yeah, that'd be why Jul 21 03:37:08 ka6sox-work: nginx works Jul 21 03:38:53 omg nginx! Jul 21 03:39:00 or does it..... Jul 21 03:39:28 it works on the pre Jul 21 03:39:35 no idea what you are talking about Jul 21 03:39:44 EXACTLY Jul 21 03:39:58 now why is this redirecting incorrectly... Jul 21 03:41:24 you are trying to use nginx on the pre? Jul 21 03:41:34 are you planning to run the portal on the pre? Jul 21 03:41:46 If I could, I would Jul 21 03:42:01 u should run seti@home Jul 21 03:42:02 :d Jul 21 03:42:19 i dont see why not. rails should install Jul 21 03:42:42 i need passenger, which might not Jul 21 03:43:25 try compiling it Jul 21 03:43:54 to much effort Jul 21 03:44:09 http://silentbluesystems.com/ Jul 21 03:44:12 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Jul 21 03:46:15 lulz someone got redirected from new packages page Jul 21 03:46:43 and basic page caching seems to be working! Jul 21 03:53:36 time to make ze pretty main page browser Jul 21 04:12:02 http://vimeo.com/13457383 <-- obscenely amazing physics engine Jul 21 04:12:16 Mercury, howdy Jul 21 04:13:03 * halfhalo pounds on his kb trying to get this to work Jul 21 04:15:11 So................ Jul 21 04:15:25 elyon: haxedemo is now in the webos-internals testing feed in Preware Jul 21 04:17:39 * halfhalo cries Jul 21 04:19:31 rwhitby, do you see any reason not to tar.gz a built kernel tree (1 per webos version per device)? Jul 21 04:19:47 jhojho, I managed to set min,max and cur cpufreq to zero today...it was kinda fun to see the pre just stop. Jul 21 04:19:57 nice Jul 21 04:20:02 soooo.......... Jul 21 04:20:08 and have kernel.mk use it instead of the unbuilt tree Jul 21 04:20:12 apparently all 4 of my pres are chuck norris pres Jul 21 04:20:33 I though you hd one that waz .75? Jul 21 04:20:53 egaudet: as long as I retain the ability to make changes to the tree Jul 21 04:21:05 s/tree/source Jul 21 04:21:11 you mean via patches etc... right? Jul 21 04:21:15 without checked in code to patches Jul 21 04:21:28 it will be the same as it is except use a built tarball rather than the unbuilt tarball off palm's site Jul 21 04:21:30 egaudet, are you talking about per released version? Jul 21 04:21:42 at least that's what I'm thinking although I don't know how that will effect the custom kernel builds Jul 21 04:21:48 i.e. do you need a distclean first Jul 21 04:21:55 sometimes I still want to be able to build before checking code into patches Jul 21 04:22:05 right now, I kind of have to sneak things Jul 21 04:22:07 jhojho, same here. Jul 21 04:22:13 remove arm built Jul 21 04:22:34 remind to make like a rebuild target or something Jul 21 04:22:35 egaudet, how about 1 per released. Jul 21 04:22:37 but it seems i have to wait for a build to go through once before I do that Jul 21 04:22:40 jhojho: it's only chuck norris if it runs -74 Jul 21 04:22:45 on Jul 21 04:22:46 ph Jul 21 04:22:47 * bhuey repaired the switch Jul 21 04:22:47 oh Jul 21 04:22:50 -80 is for weaklings Jul 21 04:22:51 it was a bitch Jul 21 04:22:56 ka6sox, per released kernel in preware? Jul 21 04:22:58 but it'll at least work now Jul 21 04:23:01 yes Jul 21 04:23:01 it's 82 Jul 21 04:23:04 egaudet, yes Jul 21 04:23:05 I think Jul 21 04:23:35 82 is for weaker weaklings Jul 21 04:23:37 im not sure that's necessary Jul 21 04:23:45 * halfhalo is running stock Jul 21 04:23:52 egaudet: It would be nice if i could ctrl-c the make after the linux tarball is untarred Jul 21 04:24:00 then I can copy my changes in Jul 21 04:24:01 the changes are relatively minimal compared to a bare kernel tree Jul 21 04:24:16 you stil need the entire tree. Jul 21 04:24:20 * jhojho gets called out by rwhitby Jul 21 04:24:21 sad Jul 21 04:24:32 the reason I'm thinking about this is so that the kernel doesn't have to be rebuilt over and over for every module we package Jul 21 04:24:52 egaudet: it makes sense Jul 21 04:24:58 egaudet, so external modules? Jul 21 04:25:13 ka6sox, yeah which we have 2 right now Jul 21 04:25:21 aufs and compcache (if it gets split out) Jul 21 04:25:50 egaudet, for what I'm workin on that wouldnt' work. Jul 21 04:26:18 but also for example warthog and firethunderchiefbirdsuperr71blazingspeedpresonfire, it would be quicker to patch a built tree and rebuild right? assuming dependencies and all are nicely handled in linux tree Jul 21 04:26:37 egaudet: yes Jul 21 04:26:41 egaudet, yes Jul 21 04:27:12 and then for you guys what extra rule would make developing easier? Jul 21 04:27:35 egaudet: should be easy, put a dependency on a suitably named tarball, and build it the first time in palm-kernel-pre/pixi and push it back into downloads Jul 21 04:27:56 then in others, just unpack the tarball instead of the kernel source and palm patch Jul 21 04:28:13 just need to name the tarball correctly Jul 21 04:28:23 rwhitby, yeah it will basically just be changing the kernel tarball prerequisite to this new one Jul 21 04:28:27 and all should work relatively the same Jul 21 04:28:40 what would be helpful would be a tagged patched kernel tree. Jul 21 04:28:58 I'm also going to be merging modules.mk into kernel.mk Jul 21 04:29:08 egaudet: excellent. thumbs up on both those things. Jul 21 04:29:18 and create a modules target? Jul 21 04:30:19 it will all be seamlessly via makefile variables Jul 21 04:30:47 like "KERNEL_IMAGE=uImage" for kernels etc... Jul 21 04:35:50 * halfhalo is retarted Jul 21 04:36:02 had a function in a function Jul 21 04:37:18 sounds like a function overload Jul 21 04:37:50 nah, it just rendered the wrong page for the unternal function Jul 21 04:38:19 yo dawg I heard you like functions... Jul 21 04:38:40 liek toatly maen Jul 21 04:41:49 drop it like its hot Jul 21 04:42:24 halfhalo: you Jul 21 04:42:25 you're around Jul 21 04:42:31 halfhalo: can you install something from the testing feed? Jul 21 04:42:39 si senorita Jul 21 04:42:45 halfhalo: haXe demo plz Jul 21 04:43:07 si senorita Jul 21 04:44:07 preware is taking its time Jul 21 04:45:09 remember when it was a java service? ahahaha Jul 21 04:45:13 works Jul 21 04:45:16 halfhalo: ty Jul 21 04:46:08 bah, only 30fps? Jul 21 04:46:10 psh Jul 21 05:00:04 * halfhalo strums air guitar Jul 21 06:16:09 upgrading my main pre to warthog-77... Jul 21 07:02:35 morning Jul 21 07:45:37 any devs here right now? I'd like to request a patch. Jul 21 07:49:32 any hookers here right now? i'd like to ... Jul 21 07:49:42 lol! Jul 21 07:50:46 okay lets see if I can halt the pre again. Jul 21 07:50:58 Killer, most are sleeping. Jul 21 07:51:15 hmm. are you one? Jul 21 07:51:43 not really, I mostly make my pre crash. Jul 21 07:52:25 i'm just a pimp Jul 21 07:52:54 Killer, what patch are you going to create? Jul 21 07:53:01 oh jeez. I get scared of overheating it. the highest I went was 52°C. Jul 21 07:53:54 I'm scared to tell you what I've had mine too. Jul 21 07:54:32 oh, I rly only know vb :/. I was going to see if I could find a dev to make a patch to toggle internet on/off when not on wi-fi. Jul 21 07:54:56 there isn't one of those already? Jul 21 07:55:53 oh darn....I forgot and set it back up to 55/50...rats. Jul 21 07:56:06 how hot has yours been? overclocking hasn't heated mine up too much. it's the wi-fi hotspot app that burns it up. Jul 21 07:56:24 ya, that would. Jul 21 07:56:29 pixi or pre? Jul 21 07:57:07 iirc I had it to 61ish one time. Jul 21 07:57:41 pre on sprint Jul 21 07:57:46 oh. Jul 21 07:58:02 what governor are you using? Jul 21 07:58:13 and what speeds are you setting it at? Jul 21 07:59:06 recompile time....rats Jul 21 07:59:48 uberkernal 800mhz. I'm waiting for the 1005mhz one to come out. I thought anything above 52C could brick the pre. Jul 21 08:00:45 mine routinely gets to 55C Jul 21 08:00:55 what's phone radio Jul 21 08:01:12 although when I'm done it *won't* go over 55. Jul 21 08:02:44 I just changed my governor to performance. Jul 21 08:02:57 ewww...hate that one. Jul 21 08:03:10 (not as badly as ondemand however) Jul 21 08:03:19 what? Jul 21 08:03:22 800mhz performance? Jul 21 08:03:28 yea Jul 21 08:04:22 what does govnah say your loads are while running the tethering? Jul 21 08:05:02 should I close all my cards? Jul 21 08:05:07 no Jul 21 08:05:27 what are the loads with it "sharing" Jul 21 08:05:42 oh. cuz I have 9 cars open right now. Jul 21 08:06:25 I'm just trying to find out how badly backlogged it is. Jul 21 08:06:33 (or not) Jul 21 08:07:30 too bad I can't make this a module..then it would be quicker instead of having to recompile the *whole* thing again. Jul 21 08:09:09 s/this\ a/this\ as\ a/ Jul 21 08:10:27 oh well. Jul 21 08:43:26 didn't quite fix the button, but it's at least usable now to a certain degree Jul 21 09:15:43 rwhitby: http://www.golem.de/1007/76546.html Jul 21 09:20:03 hucksy: thx Jul 21 09:20:33 * rwhitby bbl Jul 21 09:24:19 golem seems to have more webos news than heise Jul 21 09:27:26 swisstomcat: yep, and more accurate Jul 21 09:27:57 there are many webos fans at golem, i think ;) Jul 21 09:58:19 Hey, somebody can help me with xterm under 1.4.5? Jul 21 10:02:22 no one? Jul 21 10:08:51 I'm trying to install an 1.4.5 testing kernel, but preware downloads, shows me an empty ipkg log, sometimes claims it had installed a new kernel Jul 21 10:09:10 i never get the request to reboot, and it aint be installed (in /boot/) either Jul 21 10:11:32 DThought, what version of preware? Jul 21 10:11:51 1.2.1 Jul 21 10:13:30 which kernel are you trying to install? Jul 21 10:16:06 what it sounds like is that post-inst isn't running Jul 21 10:17:54 ka6sox: uberkernel 1.4.5.-74 (or -84?) Jul 21 10:18:26 atm i'm trying sr71, just to see whether its working at all Jul 21 10:18:50 1st thing to do is update your preware to 1.2.3. Jul 21 10:19:11 then re-attempt to download and install. Jul 21 10:19:12 ah Jul 21 10:19:23 sr71 did work Jul 21 10:19:25 2ond thing is to unstall SR71 Jul 21 10:19:39 yes Jul 21 10:19:44 THEN install UK Jul 21 10:20:11 so preware update, uninstall SR71 then install UK Jul 21 10:20:21 i'm mostly interested in compcache ;) Jul 21 10:20:58 a little of compcache goes a LONG ways. Jul 21 10:21:52 also update your govnah to latest too Jul 21 10:33:18 DThought, you making progress? Jul 21 10:34:18 ka6sox: hmm Jul 21 10:34:45 i think' i'll have to fix it the hard way Jul 21 10:34:56 sr71 did boot ... 15 minutes ago Jul 21 10:35:02 still palm logo Jul 21 10:36:15 does webos doctor enable me an early terminal? Jul 21 10:37:02 no, thats nuke and pave Jul 21 10:37:21 what you need to do is memboot. Jul 21 10:37:50 read the wiki on how to do that. Jul 21 10:37:57 memboot = boot via usb from kernel on pc? Jul 21 10:38:10 thats what i want to do / meant with early terminal Jul 21 10:39:55 rehi Jul 21 10:40:07 Dtyes Jul 21 10:40:10 er DThought yes Jul 21 10:40:20 hiya swisstomcat Jul 21 10:40:24 still awake? Jul 21 10:40:34 I woke up again... Jul 21 10:40:40 oh Jul 21 10:40:46 fell asleep after crash and burn Jul 21 10:41:01 rebuilt again but fell asleep before next test. Jul 21 10:41:37 at least this time I didn't set the cpufreq to 0Mhz Jul 21 10:42:05 (and bypass the sanity check) Jul 21 10:42:21 better go to bed :) Jul 21 10:42:39 swisstomcat, good plan Jul 21 10:43:01 in the am there will be more time to crash and burn. Jul 21 10:43:18 boy do I love memboot... Jul 21 10:43:34 but battery pulls are still a pita. Jul 21 10:44:26 ka6sox: with memboot you reference http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery <- this? Jul 21 10:45:09 i think so Jul 21 10:45:20 i've used it with meta-doctor to make a full backup of my device Jul 21 10:45:25 pretty cool Jul 21 10:45:32 DThought, I don't think you need to go that far Jul 21 10:45:56 you need to be able to get the kernel up and unload SR71 Jul 21 10:46:15 ka6sox: yes. Find the back-uped image of the original kernel, put it back into place, reboot and hope Jul 21 10:46:36 for that i need a novaterm to the pre Jul 21 10:46:41 since you appear to have a Girly-Man pre like one of mine. Jul 21 10:46:46 DThought, correct. Jul 21 10:47:02 girly-man (as in - it doesnt like S71?) Jul 21 10:47:10 DThought, yep Jul 21 10:47:35 ;) well, it was a bad idea to begin with Jul 21 10:47:36 ah Jul 21 10:47:58 its actually a good idea...we are finding the edge of the envelope Jul 21 10:48:13 and apparently yours doesn't go Mach 3 Jul 21 10:48:27 i'm fine with 600 or 800MHz ;) Jul 21 10:48:42 speed doesnt bother me that much. Swapping and TMC does bother me Jul 21 10:49:21 then UK with a touch of compcache sounds like your speed. Jul 21 10:49:57 *nodding* Jul 21 10:50:24 a little compcache goes a LONG way. Jul 21 10:50:49 when we were originally testing I saw 3:1 to 5:1 compression ratios Jul 21 10:51:31 i'm happy at 720mhz and compcache .. how much is recommended for the pre? Jul 21 10:51:44 I never use more than 16MB Jul 21 10:53:17 oh Jul 21 10:53:55 i have it at 48 Jul 21 10:54:18 ka6sox: i'm still wondering what exactly did you mean by "memboot" i can't find that term in the internals wiki Jul 21 10:55:42 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Research_Pre_Boot_Process Jul 21 10:56:18 ah Jul 21 10:56:35 i know how to put the palm into the usb-logo-mode Jul 21 10:56:38 thanks for the hint Jul 21 10:57:11 does that novacom command line tool work within windows? otherwise i'll have to go home early today ;) Jul 21 10:57:25 using that and a uImage you *should* be able to get the pre to boot backup Jul 21 10:57:29 then remove SR71 Jul 21 10:58:02 *nod* Jul 21 10:58:21 make sure you have latest preware first Jul 21 10:58:30 i think it should Jul 21 10:58:47 i'm confident i'll get the pre back when i've got a shell to it Jul 21 10:59:03 it's somewhere in program files\palm Jul 21 10:59:34 DThought, I'm confident you can too. Jul 21 11:00:59 ka6sox: do i have to do it from home using linux? only windows available here at work... Jul 21 11:01:32 they buried the function I need to use right the middle of a bunch of sysfs reads/writes. so I'm pretty sure that things are in a bad state of flux when I'm trying to use it. Jul 21 11:02:04 DThought, iirc there is novaterm for windows. (I use mac/linux) Jul 21 11:02:27 I think that the sdk for windows has it. Jul 21 11:02:34 yeah Jul 21 11:06:48 isn't there an orange+something removal technique too? Jul 21 11:06:50 that sends you back to a previous kernel? Jul 21 11:07:33 does that work for experimental kernels too? Jul 21 11:07:56 I thought that was what it was for...but I can't remember Jul 21 12:30:00 so... lets see Jul 21 12:30:06 novacom boot mem:// ,-) Jul 21 12:30:15 palm logo showing Jul 21 12:30:20 wohoo Jul 21 12:31:34 hmm Jul 21 12:31:45 not there yet, though Jul 21 12:41:53 hmm Jul 21 12:42:00 nocavom -l shows me usb castle-bootie Jul 21 12:42:17 and? Jul 21 12:42:31 novacom boot will push the device further Jul 21 12:42:41 but novacom doesn't recognize it afterwards Jul 21 12:43:58 and novaterm isn't installed on windows?! Jul 21 12:45:55 oh Jul 21 12:46:00 only novacom? Jul 21 12:46:12 only novacom is what i can see, yeah Jul 21 12:48:50 ah Jul 21 12:48:53 novaterm for windows Jul 21 12:48:54 ... Jul 21 12:49:15 something to clarify in the wiki Jul 21 12:49:51 yeah Jul 21 12:50:04 using that, i can talk to bootie Jul 21 12:50:12 very good Jul 21 12:52:04 hmm Jul 21 13:01:45 anyplace where one could get a different uimage, apart from webos doctor? Jul 21 13:02:19 probably here as soon as the US people are awake Jul 21 13:04:33 weird *thinking* Jul 21 13:34:39 DThought, you still here? Jul 21 13:35:42 what uImage are you currently using? Jul 21 13:36:20 ka6sox: i got it from the webos doctor 1.45 Jul 21 13:36:26 noca-installer-image-castle.uImage Jul 21 13:36:50 novacom doesn't recoginze the device afterwards Jul 21 13:37:24 13.256.046 nova-installer-image-castle.uImage Jul 21 13:37:35 okay that isn't the image you are looking for. Jul 21 13:37:54 lemme find it... Jul 21 13:37:55 thanks for the info *G* Jul 21 13:38:06 wiki suggested using that one Jul 21 13:38:29 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery#Alternative_Recovery Jul 21 13:38:52 ya that one knows some special tricks for digging things out. Jul 21 13:39:10 you need the one from the real payload Jul 21 13:39:14 ah Jul 21 13:41:14 thats from the jar/resources/webOS.tar.gz Jul 21 13:41:19 and there it lays Jul 21 13:41:29 but that one got a rootfs associated with it Jul 21 13:41:35 i suspect, its missing its rootfs Jul 21 13:41:36 hmm Jul 21 13:41:46 the rootfs should be there too. Jul 21 13:42:08 yes, its there, too Jul 21 13:42:53 uImage-2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 ? Jul 21 13:43:09 yes Jul 21 13:43:37 memboot that Jul 21 13:45:00 that should be a "normal" boot, taking about 2minutes?? Jul 21 13:45:06 yep Jul 21 13:45:18 so, lets see whether the logo starts flashing... Jul 21 13:45:33 it should Jul 21 13:45:41 it does Jul 21 13:45:43 whoohoo Jul 21 13:45:48 you will possibly need to clear some things out Jul 21 13:46:16 in /lib/modules there is a dir called extras or something like that Jul 21 13:46:33 waiting for novacom coming online ,) Jul 21 13:46:35 if it doesn't get cleared out by removing SR71 then you will need to manually remove it. Jul 21 13:47:06 but yeah, i should get luna ... and could use preware to remove sr71 Jul 21 13:47:26 yes, use the tool first then see if the dir remains. Jul 21 13:47:37 it should be cleared out Jul 21 13:47:52 luna online Jul 21 13:48:02 good work Jul 21 13:48:13 thanks for your help Jul 21 13:48:18 np Jul 21 13:48:32 the way you can repay me is to write this up for the wiki. Jul 21 13:49:08 sounds like a deal Jul 21 13:49:23 recovery/memboot or such... Jul 21 13:49:54 ya, explain all the steps including where you got things from. Jul 21 13:52:36 things like what tools you used and such would make it so the next guy can get it done faster. Jul 21 13:54:54 while I had a wee nap I think I might have figure out why I keep killing my pre. Jul 21 13:57:25 congrats, dtought Jul 21 14:00:16 ka6sox: /lib/modules only contains the current kernel as subdir Jul 21 14:00:38 okay with no extra(s)? Jul 21 14:00:51 yes Jul 21 14:01:07 look under the current kernel dir too Jul 21 14:01:10 its probalby there Jul 21 14:01:12 ah Jul 21 14:01:14 hm Jul 21 14:01:26 well, i just hit reboot (without usb) Jul 21 14:01:28 lets see Jul 21 14:01:34 GL Jul 21 14:01:35 its glowing Jul 21 14:01:46 thats not going to cause a problem on boot Jul 21 14:02:05 the reason for that dir is so that modules *don't* cause the phone to not boot. Jul 21 14:03:03 did you remove SR71? Jul 21 14:04:29 yes, sr71 is removed Jul 21 14:04:47 back to stock kernel Jul 21 14:05:06 okay, be sure to upgrade preware to 1.2.3 (if thats latest) Jul 21 14:08:19