**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 02 02:59:57 2010 Aug 02 03:26:49 we'll see how much HP helps with that effort Aug 02 03:29:55 Fun fact: lowes only had one screwdriver set with a t5 screwdriver. Aug 02 03:30:45 halfhalo: sears sells them individually Aug 02 03:31:07 I got an 8 in one one.. Butits nice. Aug 02 03:32:20 But it's sc2 time since idont know how to build metadoctor with the tokens Aug 02 03:32:30 I am that retarted Aug 02 03:32:39 With a t Aug 02 04:32:58 What is the best way to sync with iTunes? Aug 02 04:33:43 don't do it? Aug 02 04:35:23 ok then what is the best way to get the ripped cd that are in iTunes on the pre? Aug 02 04:38:57 you could try doubletwist if you're so antsy about iTunes. Personally I would just copy/paste music to USB via USB drive mode Aug 02 04:39:34 is there a folder it should be put in on the pre? Aug 02 04:39:45 no particular folder Aug 02 04:39:48 Create your own if you want Aug 02 04:39:52 ok Aug 02 04:41:19 * Tibfib uses mediamonkey Aug 02 06:02:41 ok, theoretically.. instead of building a doctor using the tokens file couldn't I just edit the tokens before the swap and then just doctor? Aug 02 06:11:15 omg Aug 02 06:11:22 now its being difficult Aug 02 06:48:42 god these last two clips are a pain Aug 02 07:11:46 jesus its the antenna adapter from hell Aug 02 07:30:53 doctoring... Aug 02 07:31:48 the doctor is in Aug 02 07:31:57 yes, yes he is Aug 02 07:32:15 This was way to complicated for me to be doing at 12am, but whatevs Aug 02 07:32:37 12amm, thats early? Aug 02 07:32:43 more like, early! Aug 02 07:32:49 i was up till 7am yesterday Aug 02 07:33:30 bah Aug 02 07:33:36 I have work at 8 Aug 02 07:33:43 and this is sorta my only phone Aug 02 07:33:59 okay, thats a bad idea Aug 02 07:34:02 on the other hand, Im still adjusting from hawaii time, so its more like 10 to me Aug 02 07:34:29 64% Aug 02 07:35:25 * halfhalo hums jeopardy theme song Aug 02 07:36:07 morning Aug 02 07:36:07 82% Aug 02 07:36:10 morning Aug 02 07:36:48 done! Aug 02 07:36:53 lets see if it worked Aug 02 07:38:00 now, the question is was I lazy before and uncomment the bypass first use/activation lines in metadoctor or not... Aug 02 07:38:02 what are you working on? Aug 02 07:38:19 Coms board swap between vzw pre and sprint pre Aug 02 07:39:13 oh Aug 02 07:39:16 heard about that Aug 02 07:39:35 And… yes! Aug 02 07:40:38 Now have to metadoctor pre to vzw and im done, but that can wait for another day Aug 02 07:41:06 assuming this ever signs in Aug 02 07:41:46 wish i could make a gsm pre plus out of a cdma pre plus Aug 02 07:42:19 You can Aug 02 07:42:52 swap the comms board too? Aug 02 07:43:02 yup Aug 02 07:45:05 that's something i could attempt to do .. i even have a spare gsm pre Aug 02 07:45:30 how hard is the swap to do? taking apart everything? Aug 02 07:45:40 the hardest part was literally finding a T5 screwdriver Aug 02 07:45:59 besides that, its easy if you know where the tabs are Aug 02 07:49:34 hmm Aug 02 07:49:50 yeah, i'd have to find a T5 too Aug 02 07:50:18 It took me half an hour to remove the coms board from the vzw pre, but about 2 minutes from the sprint since I knew what I was doing with the sprint Aug 02 07:53:08 I'll try and write something up about it for the wiki later Aug 02 07:55:08 that'd be cool .. i would attempt the surgery on mine then Aug 02 07:58:12 If I have time I may bust out a video camera and tape it. I doubt that will happen, but it would make it much easier Aug 02 08:02:29 so it sounds like pre surgery is pretty easy and fun? Aug 02 08:02:42 yeah… but slight issue Aug 02 08:02:49 well I dunno Aug 02 08:03:06 I can't sign in... Aug 02 08:03:08 wtf Aug 02 08:03:17 once I dissassembled a PSP, that thing is huge and had few screws and it still wasn't too fun midway :( Aug 02 08:03:38 i can imagine a pre having absolutely insane tiny parts Aug 02 08:04:28 Which may be because Im using the wrong profile.... Aug 02 08:05:57 ok, there we go Aug 02 08:07:10 and…. being hit by the no service curse while downloading profile Aug 02 08:17:23 The pre isn't too hard to take apart, but the flex and slider will be your toom Aug 02 08:17:26 *doom Aug 02 08:17:47 Don't really need to mess withthe slider for the coms board tho Aug 02 08:17:52 pixi on the other hand is I think 4 screws and a single baseboard, just disconnect the antenna Aug 02 08:18:29 My main issue was the fact the two antennas that connected to the coms board were to long by a hair making it a pain to connect em Aug 02 08:20:24 oh god… 59 failed app downloads Aug 02 08:20:45 The current projects aren't too bad to take apart, you just have to .... er, forget I said anything Aug 02 08:21:25 Dont worry, this box is not a recorder [*] Aug 02 08:22:29 wtf... Aug 02 08:22:39 App cat went down for me... Aug 02 08:22:56 chrisa: the slider flexes are not that bad, but I'd be too scared to try and do a screen replacement Aug 02 08:24:34 asphalt 5 is having a sezuire trying to install Aug 02 08:25:01 Going to the factory for protos gets you pretty good at (dis/re)assembling them Aug 02 08:25:55 i will be the first one having a gsm pre plus with a verzion logo on the back :) Aug 02 08:26:22 I hate to break it to you... Aug 02 08:26:36 You dont count Aug 02 08:27:00 chrisa: yeah, I've only done two Pre's so far. I can replace keyboards and comms boards without any visible damage now, but would need more practice to attempt a screen replacement without cracking it. Aug 02 08:27:14 hmmm Aug 02 08:27:21 seems like pdk apps are failing to install Aug 02 08:27:28 don't tell me it doesn't work, chrisa Aug 02 08:28:20 wonder if that has anything to do with ore vs preplus token Aug 02 08:29:50 hmm Aug 02 08:30:07 OR it could be my crappy service as well Aug 02 08:30:53 can you edit a token on the device? Aug 02 08:31:32 did you copy the tokens over? Aug 02 08:31:47 yeah, Aug 02 08:32:04 lets see if a reboot fixes it Aug 02 08:34:45 new issue... Aug 02 08:35:05 It won't vibrate anymore Aug 02 08:37:29 my guess is the accoustic insulator is not seated properly Aug 02 08:39:03 thats where, up top on the back? Aug 02 08:39:35 found it... Aug 02 08:43:39 oh this will be fun taking it apart again Aug 02 08:48:39 ok, time to see this without backplate on Aug 02 08:49:43 works fine with no backplate... Aug 02 08:51:19 is there any secret to getting the top tabs to relock? Aug 02 08:54:22 halfhalo: which ones? Aug 02 08:54:41 at the top of the keyboard bezel, near the usb port and opposite side from that? Aug 02 08:54:46 the two tabs near the 3.5mm port Aug 02 08:55:09 at least I think their tabs Aug 02 08:56:17 on the battery cover or between the two halfs of the body? Aug 02 08:56:30 yeah Aug 02 08:59:22 You cannot answer that question with "yeah" Aug 02 08:59:36 The hell I cant Aug 02 09:00:12 Im sleep deprived, I mean the second Aug 02 09:00:21 And Found out what caused the vibrate issue Aug 02 09:00:58 The little grey foam thingie near the speaker had part of the top layer undone that was caught on the vibrate motor Aug 02 09:01:55 halfhalo: yep, just as I predicted :) Aug 02 09:02:31 "rwhitby: my guess is the accoustic insulator is not seated properly" Aug 02 09:02:50 it's a real bugger to get back in place properly Aug 02 09:03:07 Ok, right now aucustic insulator != grey foam thingie for me. Aug 02 09:03:27 My brain is incapable of that level of though at this hour Aug 02 09:04:25 heh, you should expect concomitant results from your activities then Aug 02 09:05:59 * halfhalo sees big/complicated word and skips sentence Aug 02 09:06:40 [activity - any specific behavior; "they avoided all recreational activity] ;) Aug 02 09:07:30 phone is trying to install a blank package... Aug 02 09:07:40 i wouldn't try putting back a complicated electronic device while sleep deprived and expect it to work Aug 02 09:09:10 halfhalo: how many spare parts are left over? Aug 02 09:09:25 3 Aug 02 09:09:26 (they always put in a couple of spare parts that you don't need to put back) Aug 02 09:09:50 two screws and what looks to be a heating element from a toaster Aug 02 09:10:49 * swisstomcat expects chrisa with a big grin behind our backs Aug 02 09:11:00 http://i29.tinypic.com/2s9dlw2.png Aug 02 09:13:41 where would the app install logs be, if any Aug 02 09:15:38 halfhalo: doctor it Aug 02 09:15:57 again? Aug 02 09:15:58 uggg Aug 02 09:28:00 halfhalo, sounds like an adventure Aug 02 09:29:06 bed…. comfy,,,, Aug 02 09:29:45 82%... Aug 02 10:41:25 Can you download uberkernal with preware? Aug 02 10:41:59 ... Aug 02 10:45:39 yes Aug 02 10:45:43 :) Aug 02 13:11:57 so what's the deal on overclocking? Aug 02 13:16:23 was that a serious question? Aug 02 13:17:58 ok, I could have worded it better Aug 02 13:18:13 I'm trying to learn about overclocking my pre, but all the threads seem to be dead ends and removed links Aug 02 13:18:20 so I'm trying to figure out what the back story is Aug 02 13:22:52 .... Aug 02 13:23:22 ok, I guess nobody overclocks their phone Aug 02 13:27:50 yey nextgenserver relased an unlock for pixi/pixi plus Aug 02 13:27:51 ;] Aug 02 13:35:47 nn7: the most stable seems to be uberkernel Aug 02 13:36:03 and then overclock to 720 or 800mhz Aug 02 13:36:31 ok, thanks Aug 02 13:37:04 so far no problems with that *knock on wood* Aug 02 13:37:52 swisstomcat: is that kernel in preware? Aug 02 13:37:58 yes Aug 02 13:38:20 you can control it with govnah, also in preware Aug 02 13:38:45 ahh.. there it is Aug 02 13:38:52 a palm kernel and a uberkernel Aug 02 13:39:07 yeah Aug 02 13:43:05 does it fix the sticky keeeeeeeeeeeeyboard? Aug 02 13:43:39 verizon? i think so Aug 02 13:44:08 because nothing else does Aug 02 13:51:35 * uNiXpSyChO senses a SPK install Aug 02 13:53:59 what does governor - userspace mean? Aug 02 13:55:17 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Govnah Aug 02 13:55:23 thanks Aug 02 13:58:42 thanks uNiXpSyChO for your contributions Aug 02 13:58:53 and thanks swisstomcat for helping me put all the pieces together Aug 02 13:59:14 np Aug 02 14:01:55 I see from the FAQ that my use of Brightness Unlinked and Reduce Minimum Brightness patches will be a problem Aug 02 14:05:54 hmm... I'm using the screenstate profile, when I reduced my brightness to 1% I stayed at 800mhz! Aug 02 14:06:44 wow, that makes the phone so much more usable Aug 02 14:06:45 i'm using screenstate too, but without those patches Aug 02 14:07:29 i use fixed Aug 02 14:07:32 800/800 Aug 02 14:08:04 the faq says these patches will interefere with the screenstate detection but I have no problems Aug 02 14:09:15 hmmm.. the "time in state" graph goes up and down as I change brightness, but the frequency still says 800 mhz Aug 02 15:04:00 hey, I've got 5 3D games installed on my palm. After all of them have been startet, the "mount" command gives me about 108 lines, is this OK? shouldn't webos unmount all jailmounts after the app is closed? Aug 02 15:04:38 good question Aug 02 15:05:08 there are about 18 mounts per app Aug 02 15:05:55 I really like this one: cryptofs on /var/palm/jail/com.gameloft.app.heroofsparta/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/com.gameloft.app.heroofsparta type fuse.cryptofs Aug 02 15:06:57 lol ;] Aug 02 15:18:23 hm, the applications are jailed and can read/write the whole /media/internal drive... pointless. Aug 02 15:29:16 there's a heck of a lot more than the /media/internal drive that needs to be protected Aug 02 15:38:01 morning all! Aug 02 17:26:56 yoyoyoyoy Aug 02 17:29:54 :) Aug 02 17:33:52 sup? Aug 02 17:35:19 just found jailbreakme.com ;] Aug 02 17:36:10 hey, anyone there? Aug 02 17:36:34 no, i'm here Aug 02 17:36:40 i really need to run webos doctor with a mac and parallels Aug 02 17:36:54 is there an easy way? Aug 02 17:37:49 why the heck u need parallels for? Aug 02 17:37:57 webos doctor runs fine under os x Aug 02 17:38:19 Robi_: they've been talking about it all day Aug 02 17:42:19 really? Aug 02 17:42:23 awesome Aug 02 17:42:38 like 6 month ago i didnt work Aug 02 18:04:34 have any of you seen in consistencies with GPS and F105 kernel? Aug 02 18:27:21 Ok, Pre plus is fully up and running Aug 02 18:27:54 yay Aug 02 18:27:58 For Some reason it just took a reaaaalllly long time to install native apps Aug 02 18:28:03 what was missing? Aug 02 18:28:23 Nothing, just that one native app issue Aug 02 18:28:59 so i should be fine with my project then Aug 02 18:29:03 Yeah Aug 02 18:30:32 I did coms swap: meta with tokens, clean doctor, clean doctor Aug 02 18:31:10 very cool Aug 02 18:34:50 Ok, time to fix wirc bug caused by my previous wirc bug fix Aug 02 18:35:11 lol Aug 02 18:35:22 Done Aug 02 18:35:24 Two lines Aug 02 18:36:38 Wonder how uberkernel will act... Aug 02 18:40:15 zere we go! Aug 02 18:46:01 At http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Java_Support_in_webOS it says " Palm has announced that in a future (as of May 2010) version of webOS, the JVM will no longer be included. Projects which depend on the OasisVM JVM will "suddenly fail" after updating to that version of webOS". Can anyone cite the original announcement from Palm? Google doesn't find other matches for "oasisvm suddenly fail". Aug 02 18:46:30 That was fromDevDays IIRC Aug 02 18:46:52 yeah Aug 02 18:47:22 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2062 Aug 02 18:47:25 watch the keynote Aug 02 18:48:03 Thanks, I'll do that. Aug 02 18:48:16 triton is already in the current webos version Aug 02 18:48:19 that's the js-services Aug 02 18:48:56 Yup Aug 02 18:50:13 The 1.4.5 SDK emulator has a process running /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5-palm/bin/java, so they didn't get rid of it yet, unless there's some newer version I should be running. Aug 02 18:50:27 Nope, its still there as of right now Aug 02 18:50:45 But it should be gone in webos 2.0 Aug 02 18:50:51 yeah, i think so too Aug 02 18:50:57 about time : Aug 02 18:50:58 ) Aug 02 18:56:25 you got your Pre Plus on Sprint, halfhalo ? Aug 02 18:56:31 halfhalo_class: ^^ Aug 02 18:56:50 I did a coms board swap between my plus and my pre Aug 02 18:56:57 yeah, i did that one too. Aug 02 18:57:04 and now its happily on sprint Aug 02 18:57:06 a few weeks back, works good. Aug 02 18:57:15 I've also tried other methods. Aug 02 18:57:20 im so happy to have the extra RAM Aug 02 18:57:57 I salvaged the Palm sticker once, but when swapping them back.. it got tore up. :( Aug 02 18:58:36 I've been seeing snippets about overclocking to 1Ghz and beyond Aug 02 18:58:41 is that really feasible? Aug 02 18:58:51 if you have a chuck norris Pre Aug 02 18:59:01 1ghz works fine on most pres though. Aug 02 18:59:40 uberkernel doesn't look like it goes that high, but others will, seemingly? Aug 02 18:59:56 I'll be getting a pre in october, most likely Aug 02 19:00:03 1ghz+ overclocking kernels are being alpha tested Aug 02 19:00:21 ah Aug 02 19:00:29 lots of positive results thus far Aug 02 19:01:50 is there a battery hit? Aug 02 19:01:57 let me rephrase that Aug 02 19:02:02 is there a significant batter hit? Aug 02 19:05:05 the battery is better Aug 02 19:05:58 better... than stock? better than 800Mhz? Aug 02 19:06:11 or "better than it was earlier in the development cycle"? Aug 02 19:06:17 better than stock, there are battery saving mechanisms in there I believe Aug 02 19:06:23 interesting Aug 02 19:06:54 I currently am running unix's f105 and I get incredibly good battery life with screen off compared to stock kernel Aug 02 19:07:14 I'm sure running lots of games won't have the same effect though :P Aug 02 19:07:19 hah Aug 02 19:09:13 did I read correctly that the camera API is not available yet? Aug 02 19:09:36 you can call the camera app to take a pic for you, but no direct access yet Aug 02 19:09:52 so things like barcode scanners might work? Aug 02 19:09:58 kinda sorta? Aug 02 19:12:10 barcode scanners work now Aug 02 19:12:20 more or less, but that's a focus issue Aug 02 19:12:32 oh, so a hardware limitation Aug 02 19:12:43 yeah, but only for barcode scanners Aug 02 19:12:54 any app can call the camera and request to have a picture taken Aug 02 19:13:00 right Aug 02 19:13:15 but no further integration into the app now Aug 02 19:13:29 new APIs are announced for 2.0 as well Aug 02 19:13:32 ok, cool Aug 02 19:13:44 are already? or will be? Aug 02 19:14:09 this is how data I have used this billing period... 886,835KB/ Unlimited Aug 02 19:14:10 they were announced at developer day Aug 02 19:15:09 s/how /how much/ Aug 02 19:15:09 en0x meant: this is how muchdata I have used this billing period... 886,835KB/ Unlimited Aug 02 19:15:10 ;d Aug 02 19:16:28 hehehe Aug 02 19:17:18 no tethering nothing Aug 02 19:17:29 but well i was restoring my pre twice Aug 02 19:17:40 because of the "sign out from palm profile" issue Aug 02 19:19:06 If anyone could/would set their status to away really fast if would be greatly appreciated. testing something out in wirc Aug 02 19:19:21 3.0? Aug 02 19:19:28 yeah Aug 02 19:19:42 Seeing if my little patch is behaving Aug 02 19:19:57 * pkilian is away Aug 02 19:19:58 * pkilian is back Aug 02 19:20:03 happy? :P Aug 02 19:20:23 leave it away for a sec... to fast for me :p Aug 02 19:20:28 lol Aug 02 19:20:33 u wanted it really fast Aug 02 19:20:33 :p Aug 02 19:20:37 * pkilian is away Aug 02 19:21:20 how does WIDK compare to PDK? Aug 02 19:21:21 ddd? Aug 02 19:21:38 fuck this Aug 02 19:21:42 :) Aug 02 19:22:05 what was his away message? I got part one working, now onto part two Aug 02 19:22:22 away messages are lame Aug 02 19:22:22 :S Aug 02 19:27:06 All I'm doing is adding a visual away thingie to the nick lists Aug 02 19:33:44 shweeet Aug 02 19:33:48 It works Aug 02 19:50:21 swoosh! Off the email goes! Aug 02 19:51:42 swoosh? thats the sound of an email being sent? Aug 02 19:52:02 It is when its a paper airplane email Aug 02 19:52:18 But I fired off an email to onlive Aug 02 19:56:37 Hey all Aug 02 19:56:56 Question for anyone here Aug 02 19:57:09 is there a way to remove a Feed from Preware? Aug 02 19:57:19 swipe it Aug 02 19:57:28 nevermind the phone waslagging \ Aug 02 19:57:35 Thats what she said Aug 02 19:57:38 Hey Pyscho Aug 02 19:57:41 lol Aug 02 19:58:00 hey...is anyone having a problem with the testing feeds? Aug 02 19:58:07 was adding a certian feed and i think i mistyped it lol Aug 02 19:58:15 Nope. But I havent added em yet Aug 02 19:59:48 Audenars02 I was just updating all of them Aug 02 20:08:43 Psycho Have you ever gotten the Kernal testing feed not update after a reboot Aug 02 20:09:30 no? you can update the feed online Aug 02 20:10:49 I added the testing kernal using preware.is.awesome.com and the did the sym-opt-r for rebooting and then update and just errors out Aug 02 20:11:11 Not sure never have tried to update the feed online Aug 02 20:12:52 I must not be smart enough to be a alpha tester LOL Aug 02 20:12:52 i forgot if that was an example an wasnt meant to be used. i entered it as it should be. but there was some reboot update that was suppose to fill in the URL magically. i dont remember what that was tho Aug 02 20:13:20 yeah it was supposed to be filled in during the reboot Aug 02 20:14:07 oh bugger i bet you had to add the / slash at the end also Aug 02 20:14:53 night everyone Aug 02 20:16:05 that could be... i remember rwhitby saying there was some trick to it. Aug 02 20:16:37 i guess i'm not a good dev if i dont know how to add a testing feed either ;P Aug 02 20:16:49 bugger and he is asleep most likly Aug 02 20:16:51 lol Aug 02 20:17:03 I need a camera tripod.... :/ Aug 02 20:17:04 he should be waking up soon Aug 02 20:17:07 Pyscho your fine I'll figure it out Aug 02 20:17:22 Halfhalo_class go buy one? Aug 02 20:17:27 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-kernels/testing/ Aug 02 20:17:32 Bah, no monies for it Aug 02 20:21:00 trying with the / in the feed. Worst case scenrio is I don't get to use it.. but at least i found it LOL Aug 02 20:21:47 the test feed will put in the correct url if the name is correct Aug 02 20:21:49 the url is meaningless Aug 02 20:21:52 (in that case) Aug 02 20:22:19 I fail at wiki editing Aug 02 20:26:11 i bet i was spelling something wrong it worked that time Aug 02 20:29:06 Is it worth my time to try and mess with a makefile or not.... Aug 02 20:44:44 hi uNiXpSyChO Aug 02 20:45:15 yo Aug 02 20:53:21 hmmm.... what kernel to run.... Aug 02 21:09:19 anyone know how to change how frequently the phone checks for email from within my own app Aug 02 21:09:19 now that i can use internalz to modify my optware configs... what else do i need to re-enable ssh? Aug 02 21:09:25 i configured dropbear... but i probably need some user configs...? Aug 02 21:16:51 does anyone know how i can change the frequency the phone checks for email from within my app> Aug 02 21:56:03 anyone got webos doctor Aug 02 21:56:11 with bypass activation Aug 02 21:56:30 metadoctor it Aug 02 21:57:22 hehehehehehe Aug 02 21:57:24 hehehehehehe Aug 02 21:57:27 he Aug 02 21:57:28 h Aug 02 21:57:48 * halfhalo_class is overjoyed at being able to use 3d games with other apps at the same time Aug 02 21:58:15 so wait, now you have a sprint pre plus? Aug 02 21:58:21 yeah Aug 02 21:58:27 i thought you were on VZ before? Aug 02 21:58:33 nope Aug 02 21:58:43 att pixi hmm Aug 02 21:59:23 so are you updating the wiki about how to do it then? maybe i'll get around to it one of these days Aug 02 21:59:35 * jhojho looks at the vzw pre plus sitting in the corner Aug 02 21:59:47 Yeah, I was attempting wiki edit earlier Aug 02 21:59:52 wiki is wierd Aug 02 22:01:26 where or where is my flash right now.... Aug 02 22:05:36 hmmm, how do I make steps in the wiki... Aug 02 22:07:36 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Aug 02 22:07:51 If I get stuck in a reboot loop with a kernel, is there any way to recover besides the dr? Aug 02 22:08:33 ird: read the 1st post in SR71 kernel thread. Aug 02 22:08:55 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Communication_Board_Swap Aug 02 22:09:08 wikiwikiwak Aug 02 22:09:19 uNiXpSyChO: I try to stay away from PC, but if you insist. Aug 02 22:09:54 dont we all.... but we get sucked in. Aug 02 22:10:31 halfhalo_class: shortest wiki entry ever =) Aug 02 22:10:37 yup Aug 02 22:10:48 aha uNiXpSyChO so the doctor is the only way then? Aug 02 22:11:11 You could have just saved me the trouble and said "no" lol. Aug 02 22:11:17 ird: nope. do a memboot of the stock kernel. http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/257347-sr71-blackbird-f105-thunderchief-testing-kernels.html Aug 02 22:11:31 ird: the method is towards the bottom on the 1st post Aug 02 22:11:58 aha Aug 02 22:12:01 I see, thanks. Aug 02 22:13:53 how do I do fancybox... Aug 02 22:13:57 uNiXpSyChO: nice job with all these kernels btw. Aug 02 22:19:14 well here goes round two with the sr71 Aug 02 22:19:28 at least now I have a better way to go back. Aug 02 22:22:20 heh Aug 02 22:22:23 just noticed the flash beta. Aug 02 22:22:26 When did that happen? Aug 02 22:22:29 it didn't Aug 02 22:22:32 its fake Aug 02 22:22:54 figures Aug 02 22:24:37 awesome! Aug 02 22:24:38 reboot loop! Aug 02 22:24:39 haha Aug 02 22:48:23 anyone around that has swapped radio boards from a sprint pre into a verizon pre plus? basically what this thread is discussing: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/255864-what-esn-tied-radio-main-board-can-sprint-pre-turned-into-plus.html ? Aug 02 22:48:32 yes Aug 02 22:48:58 im having a problem understanding the modification needed on the castle.xml file Aug 02 22:49:35 my sprint pre's current castle.xml file doesn't look anything like what jhoff80 posted Aug 02 22:50:09