**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 04 02:59:57 2010 Aug 04 03:01:22 anyone know if there's an easy way to check the status of your patches in next release? Aug 04 03:01:56 I'm holding off on 1.4.5 because I don't want to lose my patches. Aug 04 03:02:23 can I confirm if they've been ported without checking one by one? Aug 04 03:02:25 MerlinMM: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.4.5/ Aug 04 03:02:42 any that aren't -0 at least build against 1.4.5 Aug 04 03:03:02 the version end? Aug 04 03:03:06 got it. thanks. Aug 04 03:03:28 by the way Rod. Aug 04 03:03:28 THANKS. Aug 04 03:03:43 you make having a WebOS phone rock! Aug 04 03:04:32 thats because he cheats Aug 04 03:05:08 I'm amazed he can do anything, standing upside down all day. Aug 04 03:05:43 haeffb: don't you mean all night? Aug 04 03:05:53 oh, right, that's why he's on at 11pm at night (me, I have no excuse). Aug 04 03:06:29 So, who'd like a 1GHz UberKernel? Aug 04 03:07:05 seriously? Aug 04 03:07:05 without overheating? Aug 04 03:09:58 rwhitby: um, I can't see the version # on my pre at that web page... how about a compatibilty screen in Preware? is preware open source? (need I ask). git I assume. Aug 04 03:10:14 git.webos-internals.org Aug 04 03:10:15 After placing in developer mode, how do I run quick install? Aug 04 03:10:30 dhf: http://install.preware.org/ Aug 04 03:11:15 MerlinMM: you can get in with terminal and edit the feed location from 1.4.1 to 1.4.5 and then preware will show you all the 1.4.5 ones Aug 04 03:11:28 it will set it back to 1.4.1 on each reboot though Aug 04 03:11:42 rwhitby: clever. Aug 04 03:12:08 will try that Aug 04 03:48:15 oh… my… god... Aug 04 03:48:28 my mother just got a blackjack II through her work... Aug 04 03:48:38 lol ancient Aug 04 03:48:51 It took me 45 minutes to turn bluetooth on Aug 04 03:48:59 I remember I still had my Treo when Blackjack II came out Aug 04 03:53:23 halfhalo: why so long? Aug 04 03:53:37 Couldnt find the setting Aug 04 03:53:52 ah Aug 04 03:55:56 rwhitby: any thoughts on having some webapps install like openappmkt.com? Aug 04 03:57:52 wait, what? why did my alter ego sign on? Aug 04 04:30:01 am trying to ssh to my pre with xp. i can ping my pre from xp. i followed http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH. i get Network error: Connection timed out from putty Aug 04 04:58:08 RUN Aug 04 06:14:26 morning Aug 04 06:35:54 if a user is added to groups, how does one tell the current shell that to reread the groups? w/o logging out/in Aug 04 08:17:21 xheti Aug 04 08:17:29 i have problem in my palm pre Aug 04 08:17:47 and? Aug 04 08:18:00 i have do erase Aug 04 08:18:14 and now it want to create profil Aug 04 08:18:16 account Aug 04 08:18:45 And? Just login to your previous account. Aug 04 08:18:54 i try to config gprs but not succes Aug 04 08:19:00 i dont have Aug 04 08:19:18 its europian Aug 04 08:20:05 can u helpme in this bro Aug 04 08:20:36 hmm Aug 04 08:20:43 soo... why can't you make a new profile? Aug 04 08:20:52 is this unit a unlocked unit? Aug 04 08:21:00 need internet connection thats right Aug 04 08:21:00 in which country are you? Aug 04 08:21:13 i m in kosovo Aug 04 08:21:19 yes its unlocked Aug 04 08:21:51 have com from germany Aug 04 08:22:45 from 02? Aug 04 08:22:58 i m not sure but i think so Aug 04 08:23:06 yeah, probably an unlocked german o2 device Aug 04 08:23:33 but hase com unlocked i put my sim and hase acept Aug 04 08:25:00 i have install in it some app and hase restarting itself sometime Aug 04 08:25:27 and i conect via wifi Aug 04 08:26:01 internet and it hase say you need to restart your device Aug 04 08:26:20 after that it say restart just or erase all Aug 04 08:27:10 oh, wow...don't know about that. Aug 04 08:27:12 sorry Aug 04 08:27:37 Is this something I can blame oil for? Aug 04 08:27:51 nope...sorry. Aug 04 08:28:02 awwww Aug 04 08:30:09 I need more ice. Aug 04 08:30:27 Which, sadly, is not code for anything but solid water Aug 04 08:31:21 xheti, I wish we could be more help you might also ask in #webos Aug 04 08:32:01 halfhalo_T400, sadly, they don't have the formula for that in .eu Aug 04 08:32:51 we don't get the "put ice in our beverage to water it down" thing here Aug 04 08:33:15 Makes it cooold Aug 04 08:33:29 and who said anything about beverage Aug 04 08:33:37 I just like to eat ze ice Aug 04 08:34:00 xheti: i did not see any other kosovo users on precentral Aug 04 08:34:44 sorry Aug 04 08:34:47 i have back Aug 04 08:35:04 yes i m new user in precentral Aug 04 08:35:23 i have my palmpre 1 month Aug 04 08:35:54 and i havent know it ask for profil after eras Aug 04 08:36:33 is ther any way to do that via wifi Aug 04 08:38:48 you would have to use meta-doctor to do that Aug 04 08:39:13 it skips first activation and allows you to create/login to a profile over wifi Aug 04 08:45:41 I sell you cars cheap! Aug 04 08:46:18 aha ok Aug 04 08:46:29 wher can download it Aug 04 08:51:26 There is a ladp helicopter circling my neighborhood Aug 04 08:52:23 xheti: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Aug 04 08:52:31 as long as it's not an ldap helicopter you should be fine Aug 04 08:52:47 heh Aug 04 08:53:06 guess you were selling your cars to the wrong people :) Aug 04 08:53:08 its almost 2 in the morning and the searchlight is on Aug 04 08:53:12 not gun Aug 04 08:53:14 fun Aug 04 08:53:16 if an ldap chopper catches you, you'll get slap'd around Aug 04 08:53:24 well, a little gunny Aug 04 08:53:36 thx at all brothers Aug 04 08:53:59 * rwhitby doesn't even get a "heh" for his directory services joke :( Aug 04 08:54:10 I have ldap hate today Aug 04 08:54:20 due to windowsmobile Aug 04 08:54:54 rwhitby: if they were funny :) Aug 04 08:55:05 * hh-stlnstuff is cwazy again Aug 04 08:55:12 swisstomcat: I got two lol!'s in another channel Aug 04 08:55:49 get back to work instead of collecting lol's ;) Aug 04 08:56:02 work? Aug 04 08:56:02 which reminds me of ... Aug 04 08:56:07 I need a laserpointer Aug 04 08:56:16 or bazooka Aug 04 08:56:38 * swisstomcat goes back to his account/calendar library Aug 04 08:57:37 * hh-stlnstuff goes back to muttering at the walls Aug 04 08:58:28 * ka6sox-work wonders when his laserpointer light will arrive @ mars. Aug 04 09:00:18 * hh-stlnstuff fedex's laserpointer to mars Aug 04 09:01:57 and.... there goes to cop cars Aug 04 09:02:47 I know it takes about 3minutes to get to Venus Aug 04 09:05:06 fedex is faster Aug 04 09:05:38 * ka6sox-work wonders if they only make right turns to get to Venus. Aug 04 09:06:04 yup. but they spin pn a dime. literally Aug 04 09:35:03 hey I'm using govnah rigt now and I'm trying to change profiles but after I click another profile, it goes back to the hmepage and nothings changed.what am I doing wrong? Aug 04 09:35:17 what kernel are you using/ Aug 04 09:35:35 uberkernal for pre+ Aug 04 09:36:08 are you seeing temperatures displayed on the govnah front page? Aug 04 09:36:52 no Aug 04 09:37:09 what patches am I supposed to install Aug 04 09:38:00 reboot your device Aug 04 09:38:09 oh, what did you use to install uberkernel? Aug 04 09:38:57 device restart? Aug 04 09:39:48 Sorry my pre is not rendering the irc chat correctly, and I ant really read the text Aug 04 09:40:14 josh__: what did you use to install UberKernel? Aug 04 09:40:56 preware Aug 04 09:41:35 josh__: it should have asked you to reboot your device after it installed the kernel - did you say "Yes"? Aug 04 09:42:05 it told me to do a luna restart after I installed both govnah and the kernal Aug 04 09:42:48 hmm - it should have popped up a window saying that you need to reboot the device, with "Yes" and "Later' buttons Aug 04 09:42:58 Reboot, not Luna Restart Aug 04 09:43:26 oh, should I uninstall govnah and the kernal from preware? Aug 04 09:45:20 Or rebooting the device now work? Aug 04 09:46:02 you should always install from Preware, and always reboot when it tells you to Aug 04 09:46:18 * rwhitby bbl Aug 04 09:46:52 I've learned my lseeon... But what should I do now? Aug 04 09:47:08 I'll restart, just for the heck of it. Aug 04 09:47:12 bbl Aug 04 09:51:32 hey Aug 04 09:51:40 I'm back Aug 04 09:52:05 restarted my device, it's workin like a charm! Aug 04 09:52:23 THANKS FOR YOUR NON EXIESTIENT HELP! Aug 04 09:52:27 soak, rinse, repeat! Aug 04 09:52:32 nn...enjoy Aug 04 09:52:42 ty Aug 04 09:52:52 you're up early. Aug 04 09:53:00 it's 252AM. Aug 04 09:53:02 BYBYE Aug 04 12:09:25 I want to submit a patch to Preware - how to? Aug 04 12:10:33 it's only after 8am in new york and 5am in san francisco :) Aug 04 12:11:49 And the other 113 Peoples in the Room, as shown to the right? And the Europeans? So wie wir einer? Aug 04 12:12:10 haven't seen metaview yet Aug 04 12:12:19 he's german and he has submitted patches Aug 04 12:12:51 Okidoki, werde am Abend nochmals reinschauen. Dank und schönen Tag noch.... Aug 04 12:14:30 Fritzens1: there is a website for submitting patches Aug 04 12:17:54 yet, sure. But ... where? Can you give me the Link? Haven't find some till now. Aug 04 12:18:54 egaudet's website? Aug 04 12:19:25 this one? Aug 04 12:19:26 http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Aug 04 12:19:32 meow nt4cats Aug 04 12:19:36 'lo swissy Aug 04 12:23:57 Bingo! thx Swisstomcat Aug 04 12:27:55 It's so easy if you have the right link. It's done, now waiting to be published. Aug 04 12:28:05 :) Aug 04 12:28:14 Maybe there will come some more patches from me...? Let's see. Aug 04 12:28:51 so, muß nun wieder mal was arbeiten. Grüazi in die Schweiz. Aug 04 17:00:31 how do I navigate to the source of a given application on my phone? Aug 04 17:01:06 cd Aug 04 17:01:38 * egaudet has no website Aug 04 17:15:43 tsktsktsk Aug 04 17:16:05 looks like the email app needs a patch to save attachemnts you choose to d/l to /media/internal vs /var/..../random bucket/etc Aug 04 17:41:53 hello Aug 04 17:59:16 oooh, it's quiet in here. Aug 04 18:07:11 at work? Aug 04 18:07:18 must be the creative process Aug 04 18:26:23 [; Aug 04 18:26:25 work suck Aug 04 19:02:54 is there anyway to make the gui more responsive on a pixi ? i've tried uberkernel and enabling compcache and it still lages scrolling through pages sometimes even with no apps open Aug 04 19:04:08 CPU isn't going to do much for it, pixi's bottleneck is memory Aug 04 19:04:46 yea thats why i thought maybe compcache would help ...it does handle multi tasking a bit better now Aug 04 19:04:54 actually pixi ain't that slow as ppl say Aug 04 19:04:56 so its just a hardware issue basically ? Aug 04 19:05:10 pixi plus is probably a bit better Aug 04 19:05:12 with more memory Aug 04 19:05:15 I use pixi for day to day use and I don't really notice much in the way of stuttering or such Aug 04 19:05:17 yeah i got the pixi plus Aug 04 19:05:19 how much compcache did you reserve? Aug 04 19:05:23 24mb Aug 04 19:05:35 try with less (e.g 16mb) Aug 04 19:05:38 ok Aug 04 19:06:10 Pixi has the same amount of memory between + and not Aug 04 19:06:15 It's the internal flash that is larger Aug 04 19:06:20 really? Aug 04 19:06:27 i just get annoyed when i try to scroll to the next page over and it lags when i have no apps open Aug 04 19:06:29 i thought that the pixi plus had 512mb ram as well Aug 04 19:06:34 no, it does not Aug 04 19:06:37 its like the phone cant run the gui even in its default state Aug 04 19:06:39 oh :( Aug 04 19:06:55 Pixi and Pre have the same amount of memory, the issue is that the pixi modem takes up more than the pre Aug 04 19:07:01 So there is some swapping in play at times Aug 04 19:07:04 yeah, i read that Aug 04 19:10:03 i actually like the physical build quality of the pixi better than the pre Aug 04 19:10:32 me too Aug 04 19:10:56 me too Aug 04 19:11:05 let's hope for a bigger pixi with at least pre innards/resolution Aug 04 19:11:07 i got pre plus for my bro in poland Aug 04 19:11:10 hope the next webos phone gets it right :| Aug 04 19:11:45 e.g 320x480 for the pixi and 640x960 for the new device Aug 04 19:12:33 pixi utilizes things like universal search app launching then Aug 04 19:12:42 *better Aug 04 19:12:43 none of the android phones in the pixi's price range can run android worth a poop either so i geuss its fair Aug 04 19:13:04 hey, pixi runs pretty well all things considered Aug 04 19:13:24 Look at the 7x27 android chipset devices Aug 04 19:13:51 They're largely a deadend and not upgradeable. You'll be getting every improvement on pixi still Aug 04 19:14:06 yea Aug 04 19:14:20 so even if we reach webos 2.0 pixi will still get updates? Aug 04 19:14:28 yea im sure Aug 04 19:14:33 I'm running the current dev build on a pixi Aug 04 19:14:44 gimmie Aug 04 19:14:44 ;d Aug 04 19:14:45 2.0 should use *less* memory Aug 04 19:14:52 with trident Aug 04 19:15:01 or whatever it was called Aug 04 19:15:10 yea if they make it faster it would be nice Aug 04 19:15:20 iOS got progressively faster until v3.0+ Aug 04 19:15:23 then it started getting slower Aug 04 19:15:43 it's slower on older iphones Aug 04 19:15:49 but it's faster on new one :p Aug 04 19:16:34 i ran my apps at 640x960 and they looked great Aug 04 19:16:51 u should run them at 1920x1080 Aug 04 19:17:45 i don't even expect a tablet to run at that resolution Aug 04 19:18:02 and i don't see webos on a netbook type device Aug 04 19:18:31 oki Aug 04 19:22:35 it would be neat if i could add a postscript printer to my pre Aug 04 19:22:40 so i could print from it ;) Aug 04 19:23:42 i'm sure they'll add something ... when they add webos to printers Aug 04 19:25:02 and also i want to program my electric toster with my cellphone Aug 04 19:25:02 ;d Aug 04 20:46:46 hi all Aug 04 20:47:13 is there any good mapping app for webos? Aug 04 20:47:28 mapping is not the right term ... Aug 04 20:47:39 navigation app, that's what I mean Aug 04 20:47:45 google maps sucks on webos Aug 04 20:48:06 have you looked @ navit? Aug 04 20:49:24 ka6sox-work, not yet ... will look at it now Aug 04 20:50:17 cannt find it in app catalog ... where should I look for? Aug 04 20:51:49 do you have preware? Aug 04 20:53:29 speaking of navit, how are the US maps? are they comparable with telenav maps? Aug 04 20:59:18 ka6sox-work, not yet Aug 04 21:00:51 Grrr Aug 04 21:00:53 reed its in there..dunno what feed. Aug 04 21:00:59 stupid pre's fs ir readonly Aug 04 21:01:05 the thing is, I don't understand what preware is Aug 04 21:01:17 ~preware Aug 04 21:01:26 ~getpreware Aug 04 21:01:32 dundunDUN Aug 04 21:01:33 * ka6sox-work kicks infobot. Aug 04 21:01:55 !preware Aug 04 21:01:56 ~get_preware Aug 04 21:02:09 infobot FAIL Aug 04 21:02:11 somebody said fail was YOU FAIL. Aug 04 21:02:17 ~infobot needs to wake up Aug 04 21:02:18 http://www.preware.org/#/index/ Aug 04 21:02:20 infobot, preware? Aug 04 21:02:22 ~preware Aug 04 21:02:35 got it now, thanks :) Aug 04 21:02:47 * ka6sox-work looks in topic and finds it. Aug 04 21:02:56 I blame ka6sox-work for infobots failings Aug 04 21:03:01 * ka6sox-work goes back to mumbling @ the kernel Aug 04 21:03:04 lol Aug 04 21:29:48 hidey ho anyone here? Never used this before Aug 04 21:31:56 so I am trying to unzip a .zip file on my pre using unzip in terminal but I get an error about unknown zip magic or something. anyone know what causes this? Aug 04 21:33:26 no not sure about the unzipping sorry I'm having some trouble locating navit through the testing feeds even though I already have them installed Aug 04 21:36:07 it is in the webos-internals feed Aug 04 21:38:47 do you have webos version 1.4.5? Aug 04 21:39:25 I have that installed... Both the .all and the armv7 Aug 04 21:40:18 in preware, select list of everything and type navit. Aug 04 21:40:22 yes 1.4.5 Aug 04 21:41:08 really hard to read with all this blue writing everywhere Aug 04 21:41:10 . Aug 04 21:41:10 . Aug 04 21:41:11 . Aug 04 21:41:22 there now I can see Aug 04 21:41:52 I have preware v 1.2.6 Aug 04 21:42:18 have you tried typing navit in list of everything? Aug 04 21:42:32 you can search on the home screen as well. Aug 04 21:42:42 preware home screen Aug 04 21:42:57 cool, never knew that Aug 04 21:43:25 still shows up nothing and I'm running uberkernel 1G Aug 04 21:44:08 I have the test feeds ending in all as well as armv7 Aug 04 21:44:44 if you tap on available applications and then tap feeds at the bottom, how many apps show up in webos -internals feed? Aug 04 21:45:05 2 secs Aug 04 21:45:25 I don't believe it is in a testing feed...just the webos-internals feed Aug 04 21:46:04 shows 61 for me Aug 04 21:46:24 hmm, I have 72 Aug 04 21:47:32 god... Aug 04 21:47:50 I am literally writing stuff down on paper from a mysql ent db because this app sucks so much Aug 04 21:47:57 I've tried couple reboots and couple reupdating feeds but still nothing on the app so not sure where to go next Aug 04 21:48:53 do you have the feed: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/all Aug 04 21:49:19 I'm sure I do but ill check again Aug 04 21:49:29 as well as /armv7 Aug 04 21:50:12 * halfhalo_class dies Aug 04 21:50:20 got both Aug 04 21:51:50 are you using wIRC on your pre? they should be in the same feed...but I am kinda stumped Aug 04 21:52:49 I just found this through help on preware...short answer I'm on my phone :) Aug 04 21:53:35 what's the url for my computer? Aug 04 21:54:59 search for wIRC in preware Aug 04 21:55:02 Sledge007: How did you manage 1.4.5? Aug 04 21:56:29 ok I'm leaving here and brb on my desktop Aug 04 21:56:38 here i am Aug 04 21:56:47 what were you asking about 1.4.5 Aug 04 21:57:01 how did i find it? Aug 04 21:57:24 yeah I think that's what he was asking Aug 04 21:57:54 i dunno just found it in an update about 3 weeks ago...Bell Mobility, Canada Aug 04 21:58:29 pretty much an uneventful update...aside from the ....wait for it .........3 whole brand new 3D games....rather boring so farrr Aug 04 21:58:36 lol Aug 04 21:59:52 so what do you see when you tap available pkgs-->applications-->feeds at the bottom-->webos internals-->all Aug 04 22:00:34 there's 30 available there Aug 04 22:00:49 JsTop is at the top of the list Aug 04 22:00:56 no navit anywhere? Aug 04 22:00:59 nope Aug 04 22:01:30 when was the last time you tried update feeds in the preware dropdown menu? Aug 04 22:01:36 last week mode switcher this month haxe demo Aug 04 22:01:42 couple of times today Aug 04 22:02:09 is wIRC in that list? Aug 04 22:02:12 followed by a couple of resets just in case Aug 04 22:02:15 i see that there Aug 04 22:04:18 supertux, luna manager, wirc, zcorder, myflashlight!, netstat, a bunch of QT titles and so on Aug 04 22:04:39 well wIRC is awesome...but I have no idea why navit isn't there Aug 04 22:05:32 you use it on your phone? i was for a bit through the preware help but found it a little messed up with all the names that are over there -------> Aug 04 22:05:57 have you downloaded the emergency fstab fixer? Aug 04 22:06:15 yeah its a client for your pre. its great Aug 04 22:06:41 i already checked that through terminal and got the unmask = 00000 Aug 04 22:07:16 ok Aug 04 22:08:13 i had already d/l ed that ...supposedly a fix for vba and stella atari 2600 emulators, but that didn't seem to fix those problems, perhaps I have some faulty roms or something cause everytime I tried those, they just kept locking up Aug 04 22:08:31 and then rebooting my phone Aug 04 22:08:56 so just to be clear, you have webos-internals feeds and webos-internals testing feeds? Aug 04 22:09:10 that would be correct Aug 04 22:10:38 ~testing-feeds Aug 04 22:10:47 ~testing-feed Aug 04 22:10:49 [testing-feed] a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Aug 04 22:11:09 infobot: testing-feeds is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Aug 04 22:11:11 rwhitby: okay Aug 04 22:11:29 that's right, 2 feeds under webos-internals...../all and /armv7 and another feed titled test-feed Aug 04 22:11:47 * rwhitby wonders why people don't just give that link as the first response, and then let the other person work it out from there ... Aug 04 22:11:58 because infobot brokked earlier Aug 04 22:12:08 i'll check that out but pretty sure i've gone over that page about 10 times already....i'll let you know Aug 04 22:12:24 as i thought Aug 04 22:12:34 http://install.preware.org is not so hard to remember either ... Aug 04 22:12:35 that's the same page i've looked at 10 times today Aug 04 22:12:39 lol Aug 04 22:13:04 but what i'm saying is....i have those already loaded as feeds in my preware Aug 04 22:13:30 thanks rod. any idea what is up with unzip giving magic number errors when I try to unzip a compressed .ipk? Aug 04 22:13:31 Then you've made some mistake somewhere, and having people here try to help is not going to be much use. Remove everything and start again, and don't make a typo this time. Aug 04 22:13:49 ok thanks rod :) Aug 04 22:13:55 illadelphatic: why would you try and unzip an ipk? Aug 04 22:14:11 it is compressed as a .zip Aug 04 22:14:23 not according to unzip ;) Aug 04 22:14:57 lol, maybe I will try changing the file extension... Aug 04 22:16:13 I doubt that will change the result. Linux tools aren't dumb enough to trust file extensions. Aug 04 22:16:44 what's the ipk? Aug 04 22:17:06 it is frizzle beta Aug 04 22:17:53 omg....haha ...i figured it out Aug 04 22:18:14 i've absorbed a LOT of info in the last month Aug 04 22:18:23 I downloaded it with my pre, changed the filename in internalz and tried to unzip in terminal Aug 04 22:19:00 congrats sledge Aug 04 22:19:02 apparently, FYI, "test-feed" does not work as a title to the feed Aug 04 22:19:15 thanks for putting up with me :) Aug 04 22:19:32 sometimes this is like brain surgery for dummies Aug 04 22:21:25 I has patch idea Aug 04 22:21:32 its here: http://forums.precentral.net/attachments/homebrew-apps/49858d1280755982-frizzle-beta-tester-needed-com.lieblsoftware.frizzlebeta_1.0.2_all.zip Aug 04 22:22:45 ok before i go, there's something I noticed about the Govnah, not sure if this is the right place for it, just an observation, not a question Aug 04 22:23:57 I thought that when you did a reboot, you had to manually go back into Govnah and change your freq's to whatever setting you wanted, that they went back into "stock" mode...mine for some reason always comes back to the 1GHz Aug 04 22:25:04 ok, can someone remind me what the command is to mount the fs as rw Aug 04 22:25:17 mount -o remount,rw / Aug 04 22:28:29 awww, look who finally showed up Aug 04 22:29:35 Sledge007_: Govnah has had sticky profiles for some time now. Aug 04 22:29:53 omg... nano fail. Can't use enter key Aug 04 22:30:14 ok so my ubuntu pc was able to extract that .zip file just fine Aug 04 22:30:32 * oilsworkn is shocked Aug 04 22:30:58 ok, so why couldn't unzip extract it? Aug 04 22:32:04 * oilsworkn didn't mean to imply he knew what was going on Aug 04 22:32:11 shocker Aug 04 22:32:40 I guess its a mystery... Aug 04 22:34:14 * oilsworkn guesses professor plum in the library with the candlestick Aug 04 22:34:22 nope Aug 04 22:34:24 pipe Aug 04 22:34:27 lead pipe? Aug 04 22:34:30 gah Aug 04 22:35:03 its always the pipe. Or the .45 Magnum. Aug 04 22:35:26 hehehehe Aug 04 22:35:42 disabled the transparent background in the systemui menu Aug 04 22:36:47 * oilsworkn thinks halfhalo_class should get back to working on wirc xD Aug 04 22:36:57 Shoulda coulda woulda Aug 04 22:37:10 Right now I'm just tinkering with stuff due to class Aug 04 22:37:14 nothings been pushed in 12 days! Aug 04 22:38:03 and that was only because i copied some code to preware and noticed bugs and pushed the fixes back to wirc xD Aug 04 22:42:05 * oilsworkn notices preware in new palmcast image Aug 04 22:42:19 oilsworkn: http://pastie.org/1076199 Aug 04 22:42:21 happy? Aug 04 22:42:34 ok thanks rod, again just an observation :) Aug 04 22:42:51 a little bit Aug 04 22:43:01 message it to "oil" so i will see it at home Aug 04 22:43:13 gah Aug 04 22:43:16 :) Aug 04 22:43:45 The other stuff Im doing to is aint finished Aug 04 22:43:49 but its putyful Aug 04 22:45:22 and makes the user list more interesting with more info Aug 04 22:45:35 oilsworkn, get bip Aug 04 22:46:24 * oilsworkn is too lazy to bother setting that all up Aug 04 22:46:45 heh, i have that setupish on my server Aug 04 22:46:48 oh, guy just walked in with massive cellphone headset Aug 04 22:47:06 like, over the top of his head, ear-to-ear, with a boom mic Aug 04 22:47:16 lolol Aug 04 22:47:41 egaudet: are you using bip? Aug 04 22:48:21 yes Aug 04 22:48:45 and it's much better than what I used to do Aug 04 22:48:49 how does it handle multiple connections? Aug 04 22:48:53 oh snap Aug 04 22:48:59 node can do this easy Aug 04 22:49:02 how? as in technical details? Aug 04 22:49:16 you can connect from multiple devices at the same time just fine Aug 04 22:49:31 yeah, i didnt mean how Aug 04 22:49:33 more, if it did Aug 04 22:50:13 Now I wanna make a node one.... purely because if would be fun Aug 04 22:50:16 I have bip running on my main machine, and connect to it from other machines Aug 04 22:50:35 (as well as connect to it from my main machine's xchat when I'm on it) Aug 04 22:50:40 * oilsworkn really needs to fix up his linux box Aug 04 22:50:45 so great to see all of the backlog wherever I go Aug 04 22:51:01 brb Aug 04 23:01:36 bip works well Aug 04 23:01:47 when I can get to my bip proxy Aug 04 23:01:53 but not so well with wirc 024 Aug 04 23:02:47 yea yea Aug 04 23:02:53 get your self 145 Aug 04 23:07:20 still waiting Aug 04 23:09:03 waiting on What? Aug 04 23:23:49 pie Aug 04 23:23:57 imma makenodeircproxy Aug 04 23:25:33 Should be easy and would let me do load balancing really easily Aug 04 23:29:07 :/ stupid ipad crashed Aug 04 23:32:00 I thought apple and crash were impossible to use in the same sentence? Kinda like a universal constant of nature Aug 05 00:31:42 anyone who i can ask about saved packages list? Aug 05 00:35:01 oil Aug 05 00:35:11 he's going to fix it ;) Aug 05 00:35:17 lol Aug 05 00:35:30 but before i fixed it: rwhitby Aug 05 00:35:32 :) Aug 05 00:40:13 lol Aug 05 00:40:17 no i wonder Aug 05 00:40:35 if i have some packages from that list installed and some not will it reinstall the installed packages? Aug 05 00:40:54 when i tap "install all" Aug 05 00:42:33 it will not try and install anything which is already installed Aug 05 00:44:05 k thx Aug 05 00:58:54 hey oil :) Aug 05 00:59:20 hi Aug 05 00:59:30 How is the irc client coming? :D Aug 05 01:00:32 good Aug 05 01:02:12 Oil, man of few words...but big results :D Aug 05 01:02:31 lol Aug 05 01:48:47 Can I do anything to help w/Keyboss? Aug 05 01:49:28 ask egaudet when you see him. Aug 05 01:50:52 new to this irc thing... I see his name on the list... does that mean he's here or is there some other way that indicates presence? Aug 05 01:52:33 ~seen egaudet Aug 05 01:52:35 egaudet is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 3h 1m 34s, last said: 'brb'. Aug 05 01:53:02 hi Aug 05 01:53:19 cool. Hi. Aug 05 01:53:49 Trident_, what were your observed issues with it? Aug 05 01:53:52 Wondering what I might be able to do to help with KeyBoss. Aug 05 01:54:21 I haven't been able to get it to load since the last F105 update. :( Aug 05 01:54:49 I keep getting the message that UInput isn't installed, when it plainly is. Aug 05 01:58:09 Trying again right now... I uninstalled both when I couldn't get it to work. Aug 05 02:04:29 Installing KeyBoss first- no reset. Then UInput- device reset. Aug 05 02:10:26 what uinput package are you installing? Aug 05 02:10:39 uinput-pre? Aug 05 02:11:53 egaudet: I have a suspicion that the kernel postinst will remove everything in the extra modules dir Aug 05 02:15:26 rwhitby, yeah but it's supposed to only be getting it from the app dir Aug 05 02:15:55 oh, scratch that then Aug 05 02:16:21 the uinput-pre and uinput-pixi have bad upstart scripts though (looking in wrong/old app dir ) Aug 05 02:17:31 I only find/found one Userspace Input kernel module. Aug 05 02:17:57 And that's the one I use. for pre/pre+. Aug 05 02:18:11 resetting now Aug 05 02:18:22 Trident_, does it say for pre/pre+ in the description? Aug 05 02:18:33 yes. definitely. Aug 05 02:19:02 ok that one has the issue so it's not loading the kernel module correctly Aug 05 02:19:12 i'm fixing it now Aug 05 02:19:19 I think that is correct. Aug 05 02:21:12 Before the most recent device reset that gave me all this hassle, I was able to install UInput; do the device reset; THEN install Keyboss and only do a Luna reset and it would all work. Aug 05 02:22:40 It seems like the device reset is causing some sort of "disconnect" between KB and UInput. (sorry, I don't know the correct jargon) Aug 05 02:23:27 Just tapped on KB- same error message. I'm going to uninstall KB and then reinstall again and see if that helps. Aug 05 02:23:49 uinput is not getting loaded Aug 05 02:24:01 because the upstart script is looking at the wrong dir to find the module Aug 05 02:24:19 so nothing should work until I fix that and put an updated uinput package in feed Aug 05 02:25:04 ah. OK. I'm just happy that it's not a glitch in MY Pre or something that I screwed up. Aug 05 02:26:23 OK. As you said, that didn't work either. Removing both. Aug 05 02:26:34 rwhitby, should we have a common area for modules? Aug 05 02:26:57 if you keep everything installed you should see the update for uinput when it's in the feed Aug 05 02:27:18 egaudet: since we have no autoloading capability, there's no disadvantage to loading from the appdir Aug 05 02:27:32 lol. Too late. But no problem, I'll reinstall both. Aug 05 02:28:18 rwhitby, yeah I was only thinking so that the upstart script didn't have to know the package id Aug 05 02:28:39 but I'm just being lazy Aug 05 02:33:43 Thank you guys! I really like this little app. Seems like something that should be included as optional in webOS. So much easier than the shift/function keys. Aug 05 02:39:33 glad you like it, it's very infantile right now but I plan to make it grow a lot Aug 05 02:43:11 ughh, I want to scream Aug 05 02:43:29 its ok, we can't hear you Aug 05 02:43:34 my Pre's keyboard randomly stops working (very frequently) until I restart it Aug 05 02:44:30 if it happens to stop when no key is being pressed, I can't type; if it's while a key was pressed, I still can't type, but that key keeps repeating over and over and it gets really ugly Aug 05 02:45:44 Sounds like it's time for a replacement. Aug 05 02:45:59 if you want to yell Aug 05 02:46:05 just hit CAPS LOCK Aug 05 02:46:30 I don't really want to yell, I just want my pre to work. Without dropping several hundred Aug 05 02:47:07 Is this your original? Were you one of the first? It should still be under warranty. Aug 05 02:47:55 For some reason I made my pre blank the screen when the system menu is active Aug 05 02:47:57 I like it Aug 05 02:48:28 warranty from palm? what's the period on the it? Aug 05 02:49:22 you dont pay for the insurance? Aug 05 02:49:41 asurion Aug 05 02:49:45 Nope :/ Aug 05 02:49:55 Figured I would just be careful with it Aug 05 02:50:08 It's seven months old Aug 05 02:50:24 sprint pre? Aug 05 02:50:31 Palm warranty is one year. Aug 05 02:50:55 Yes sprint Aug 05 02:51:11 This sounds like an excuse to buy a pre plus and do a coms board swap Aug 05 02:51:17 Unless you've dropped it in water or go in there with an obviously modified kernel... Aug 05 02:51:32 halfhalo: lmao no thanks Aug 05 02:51:43 It is so worth it its not even funny Aug 05 02:51:47 well, slightly funny Aug 05 02:51:47 you should go in with 1.2GHz kernel Aug 05 02:51:49 Trident_: oh right, I'll make sure to switch it back ;) thanks Aug 05 02:52:46 and I've paid close attention to temp.. that's not what broke it, I'm sure Aug 05 02:52:57 halfhalo: you've done it? Aug 05 02:53:03 si Aug 05 02:53:38 mm well I just got back from Costa Rica.. don't need to spend any more money Aug 05 02:53:54 Have you tried using the stock kernel and see if it still happens? What sucks is if it acts normally with the OEM kernel... they you have to make a tough choice. Aug 05 02:54:02 they=then Aug 05 02:54:12 yeah, I'll try Aug 05 02:55:54 I dropped my insurance when my rep started getting me upgrades every 6mos. Now that that situation isn't anymore, I'm going back to getting insurance on all future phones. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 05 02:59:56 2010