**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 05 02:59:57 2010
Aug 05 03:10:50 <Trident_> Any eta for the updated UInput? no pressure. (sw)
Aug 05 03:19:24 <egaudet> it should be built into the feed in 15 minutes
Aug 05 03:19:47 <Trident_> great. Thank you!
Aug 05 03:19:48 <egaudet> There are some order issues that I'm running into locally running the services so things may not work correctly
Aug 05 03:20:34 <halfhalo> PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE
Aug 05 03:21:06 <Trident_> no problem. that's what Alpha is all about. I figure it's my job to give feedback so that this can work correctly in the long run.
Aug 05 03:21:15 <egaudet> now that my build environment is properly set up I should be able to get some development in on it tomorrow
Aug 05 03:22:04 <egaudet> and yes, please let me know any suggestions, and issues you run into
Aug 05 03:22:30 <halfhalo> my job is to annoy the devs!
Aug 05 03:22:58 <Trident_> :-d
Aug 05 03:23:58 <halfhalo> I'm good at that
Aug 05 03:47:04 <oil> almost too good
Aug 05 03:47:16 <oil> you should look into it to see if you can get paid for it
Aug 05 03:47:52 <rwhitby> we pay him handsomely with our attention
Aug 05 03:48:26 <Trident_> everyone needs to be good at SOMETHING
Aug 05 03:51:54 <halfhalo> fine oil, you get no more patches
Aug 05 03:52:14 <oil> lol
Aug 05 03:52:35 <rwhitby> oil: will you notice?
Aug 05 03:53:45 <oil> hes sent in 2 patches
Aug 05 04:09:09 <Trident_> good night all
Aug 05 04:12:44 <halfhalo> Yeah, but i still has colorful stuff i did
Aug 05 04:13:49 * oil awaits patch :)
Aug 05 04:15:34 <halfhalo> you would wouldn't you
Aug 05 04:15:59 <halfhalo> i pretty much have all major programming stuff on the backburner till next friday due to my calc final
Aug 05 04:42:51 <jack87> Oh here we go this is the channel I ment to be in :) haha man i am rusty
Aug 05 05:13:50 <bhuey> rwhitby: hey
Aug 05 05:14:10 <bhuey> you folks should consider having a speed setting based on whether or not the device is connected to external power or not
Aug 05 05:14:55 <bhuey> 1ghz for a device that's directly connected to a charger and some other lower setting for battery usage would be an interesting feature
Aug 05 05:16:08 <rwhitby> bhuey: trouble is that charging causes heat
Aug 05 05:18:28 <bhuey> yeah, I was able to run at 1ghz with moderate charging going on
Aug 05 05:18:52 <bhuey> you can certainly backoff because of heat
Aug 05 05:20:18 <rwhitby> bhuey: I recommend the combination of Mode Switcher and Govnah profiles.
Aug 05 05:20:29 <rwhitby> not working 100% yet, but will be there very soon
Aug 05 05:20:54 <rwhitby> and now we've got temp limiting in place, we can probably take off the clamping to 500 when charging
Aug 05 05:22:33 <jack87> rwhitby, ya... might be nice to remove the clamping considering sometimes you want to use your phone while charging
Aug 05 05:27:44 <noradtux_> morning
Aug 05 05:29:32 <noradtux|work> rwhitby: is the arch-branch of cross-compile usable? I'd like to try to build navit for the pixi ...
Aug 05 05:30:00 <rwhitby> noradtux|work: as far as I can see, it's speechd which is breaking
Aug 05 05:30:24 <noradtux|work> rwhitby: ah, so you already tried :)
Aug 05 05:31:04 <rwhitby> noradtux|work: arch branch has been merged back to master
Aug 05 05:34:40 <jhojho__> rwhitby: when you lower the voltage, charging causes less heat =)
Aug 05 05:35:38 * rwhitby continues to be amazed by the laws of nature ;)
Aug 05 05:35:54 <halfhalo> They'll kick your butt
Aug 05 05:36:52 <noradtux|work> rwhitby: ah, ok. It was not when I last looked ;)
Aug 05 05:40:15 <rwhitby> noradtux|work: if you can work out why the aclocal script is hanging, that'd be awesome
Aug 05 05:46:03 <noradtux|work> rwhitby: I'll take a look at it
Aug 05 06:13:52 <swisstomcat> morning
Aug 05 07:22:37 <NachoB> Can someone enlighten me on how to remove EOM Overlord Monitoring?
Aug 05 07:27:17 <swisstomcat> hmm?
Aug 05 07:30:24 <rwhitby> NachoB: edit /etc/event.d/uploadd to remove the comment characters at the start of the lines
Aug 05 07:32:05 <NachoB> rwhitby: Thanks!
Aug 05 07:37:07 <NachoB> Looking at the file, there's 3 comment characters I need to remove?
Aug 05 07:37:31 <datafirm> I dont have that file.
Aug 05 07:44:08 <rwhitby> NachoB: what are the lines?
Aug 05 07:44:34 <rwhitby> NachoB: just give me the first word of each line you're looking at
Aug 05 07:45:56 <NachoB> # uploadd, # respawn, # exec
Aug 05 07:53:28 <jhojho__> remove # in front of respawn and exec
Aug 05 07:59:41 <NachoB> Thanks
Aug 05 11:19:58 <swisstomcat> rehi
Aug 05 11:57:53 <bsm> hi, how do I run a script as soon as the device eth0 comes up? does the /etc/if-up.d mechanisms work? I'd like to replace the /tmp/.wpa_supplicant.conf file with my own as soon as its created without some daemon that checks for that file...
Aug 05 11:58:58 <swisstomcat> hi
Aug 05 13:37:07 <swisstomcat> rehi
Aug 05 13:37:12 <swisstomcat> rehi
Aug 05 14:47:08 <Klownicle> Can someone help me verify preware and its service is installed properly.  I keep reinstalling it and uninstalling trying different methods are per described on webos internals (latest being command line) and either it hangs, causes my phone to crash, gets stuck in a loop restarting luna (in term needs a cold boot to fix).  None of my issues seem to happen till I install preware.  I've tried different versions etc 1.2+.  Im currently using 1.2.
Aug 05 14:47:48 <Klownicle> I have a puytty command line open now, just don't know where to start.
Aug 05 14:48:50 <Klownicle> Ive tried doctoring my phone, and nothing seems to go wrong untill I get to the point where I install preware and try and use it. :(
Aug 05 14:51:34 <swisstomcat> hmm
Aug 05 14:52:12 <Klownicle> Its a new refurb that I just got, after having to replace the other refurb I got this week.  The first one was just terrible in its build quality.
Aug 05 14:52:12 <swisstomcat> did you try the preware-bootstrap method on the command-line?
Aug 05 14:52:15 <Klownicle> Yes.
Aug 05 14:52:22 <swisstomcat> what happened?
Aug 05 14:52:33 <swisstomcat> when you ran preware-bootstrap?
Aug 05 14:52:39 <Klownicle> That FINALLY got the service (I assume) running where packages would load and not just show nothing.
Aug 05 14:52:45 <Klownicle> It said it installed properly.
Aug 05 14:53:00 <swisstomcat> ok
Aug 05 14:53:01 <Klownicle> Mounting Read-Write, Downloading, Installing, Mounting Read Only etc OK.
Aug 05 14:53:06 <swisstomcat> sounds good
Aug 05 14:53:12 <swisstomcat> and then run preware
Aug 05 14:53:19 <swisstomcat> should be 1.2.6 i think
Aug 05 14:53:24 <Klownicle> Yeah, and it hangs or causes luna to crash after awhile.
Aug 05 14:53:25 <Klownicle> Yeah.
Aug 05 14:53:36 <swisstomcat> hangs while downloading feeds?
Aug 05 14:53:38 <Klownicle> When it crashes it gets stuck in a boot loop.
Aug 05 14:53:45 <Klownicle> No, and yes.  Its random.
Aug 05 14:53:56 <Klownicle> The only way to get it to boot again is by taking the battery out.
Aug 05 14:54:02 <swisstomcat> and you doctored you said?
Aug 05 14:54:11 <Klownicle> Yes, 2 times so far.
Aug 05 14:54:22 <swisstomcat> maybe your device is toast?
Aug 05 14:54:50 <swisstomcat> so the only thing after doctoring was to install preware?
Aug 05 14:54:53 <Klownicle> Thats my only thought, but it doesn't seem to happen untill I get to installing and running preware.  So I was wanting to see if I could verify via command line everything was good to go.
Aug 05 14:55:08 <Klownicle> Yeah i've tried various installing procedures.
Aug 05 14:55:13 <swisstomcat> did you do a full reset?
Aug 05 14:55:17 <Klownicle> Trying to see if it was the phone or somthing to do with preware.
Aug 05 14:55:22 <swisstomcat> e.g is the usb-partition clean?
Aug 05 14:55:30 <Klownicle> Define full reset?
Aug 05 14:55:43 <Klownicle> Umm yes if you mean /media/internal
Aug 05 14:55:53 <swisstomcat> yeah
Aug 05 14:56:02 <swisstomcat> full reset would clear /media/internal
Aug 05 14:56:51 <Klownicle> I haven't tried a full reset in that terms that wipes /media/internal but its a new refurb (2 days ago) so all thats on usb-part is 2 cer files.
Aug 05 14:58:06 <swisstomcat> hmm
Aug 05 14:58:28 <swisstomcat> you could check for hidden files on /media/internal
Aug 05 14:58:29 <Klownicle> I can use the phone to play games, go through e-mail, send texts make phone calls.  But it seems once I start to use preware it goes bizurk
Aug 05 14:58:33 <swisstomcat> that start with .
Aug 05 14:58:43 <Klownicle> is it ls -s for hidden?
Aug 05 14:58:50 <swisstomcat> not sure
Aug 05 14:59:12 <Klownicle> ahh its ls -a
Aug 05 15:00:36 <Klownicle> Sent you a pm of contents
Aug 05 15:01:15 <swisstomcat> could you do a full reset?
Aug 05 15:01:33 <Klownicle> If you describe the exact method you'd like to me attempt sure :)
Aug 05 15:01:41 <Klownicle> Do you mean Device Info > Full Erase?
Aug 05 15:02:10 <swisstomcat> that should be the one
Aug 05 15:03:24 <Klownicle> Doing so now.
Aug 05 15:04:46 <Klownicle> The phone when I first got it seemed to be ok, I used a brand new profile becuase I got tired of palm syncing applications I never used anymore.  So I didn't have anything on the phone for the first day.
Aug 05 15:05:47 <swisstomcat> question is if /media/internal was clear
Aug 05 15:07:34 <Klownicle> Its nearly clear lol.
Aug 05 15:08:11 <Klownicle> 2nd day is when I started to tinker with the phone and actually use it and its just been crashing, only pattern I can see is with preware.
Aug 05 15:09:02 <Klownicle> 1 patch has been installed in my handling of the pre so far and it was EOM Overload Monitoring which alters uploadd to stop logs being sent.  But trying to narrow things down I haven't installed it for awhile since I been doctoring.
Aug 05 15:09:42 <Klownicle> I even tried copying my original uploadd to see if maybe perchance the patch did somthing but no go.
Aug 05 15:10:03 <Klownicle> BTW, the full erase seem umm complete?  thoe I just see blue sky and no english spanish option lol
Aug 05 15:11:00 <swisstomcat> hmm
Aug 05 15:11:23 <Klownicle> Its looking like nothings gonna happen, been at a blue sky for 3-4min
Aug 05 15:12:19 <Klownicle> Don't get me wrongm I like the blue sky wallpaper and all, but lol
Aug 05 15:13:52 <Klownicle> Should I pull the battery out :-/ power button is just turning the screen on and off.
Aug 05 15:14:37 <swisstomcat> hold the power-button longer
Aug 05 15:15:31 <Klownicle> nothin happens blue sky just taunts me..
Aug 05 15:16:49 <Klownicle> I got it to reboot by the mute switch flippin back and forth..
Aug 05 15:16:54 <swisstomcat> huh
Aug 05 15:17:07 <Klownicle> either that or it crashed ;)
Aug 05 15:17:53 <Klownicle> Im really tired of these crappy refurbs, the only phones i've had for a extended (6months or more) are new not refurb.
Aug 05 15:19:45 <Klownicle> Ok its rebooted and now I got the English/Spanish option
Aug 05 15:20:06 <swisstomcat> phew
Aug 05 15:20:54 <Klownicle> Attempting to sign in to profile...
Aug 05 15:21:02 <Klownicle> Restoring Profile..
Aug 05 15:21:12 <swisstomcat> enable developer mode
Aug 05 15:21:23 <swisstomcat> check /media/internal
Aug 05 15:21:28 <swisstomcat> preware-bootstrap
Aug 05 15:21:43 <Klownicle> will do as soon as profile is restored.
Aug 05 15:21:46 <Klownicle> just got a error
Aug 05 15:21:50 <Klownicle> "Data not Restored"
Aug 05 15:21:54 <Klownicle> and it says Phone offline at the top
Aug 05 15:22:10 <Klownicle> now its online again, and got a spining thing.
Aug 05 15:22:20 <Klownicle> Restoreing it says
Aug 05 15:22:20 <Klownicle> lol
Aug 05 15:24:31 <Klownicle> Restored.
Aug 05 15:25:57 <Klownicle> Not sure what happened just now, had a spinning circle, then screen faded progressively like it died, and now got the palm logo.
Aug 05 15:26:52 <egaudet> what webos version
Aug 05 15:26:58 <Klownicle> 1.4.1.1 sprint
Aug 05 15:27:39 <egaudet> df -h
Aug 05 15:28:01 <Klownicle> looks like its booting normally right now, got the palm flashing as normal.
Aug 05 15:28:18 <Klownicle> normally when its in a loop I can see the screen fade away hasn't done tha tyet
Aug 05 15:28:30 <wusaint> just had to pop in and say wIRC for 1.4.5 rawks! bang up job guys
Aug 05 15:29:04 <swisstomcat> wusaint: i agree
Aug 05 15:29:16 <Klownicle> egaudet  soon as I get it into developer mode when it comes on ill try that.
Aug 05 15:30:10 <wusaint> swisstomcat: at first you don't notice the changes but once you use it you realize real quick :-)
Aug 05 15:30:42 <en0x> Klownicle: i got it yesterday at night
Aug 05 15:30:49 <egaudet> I can't wait until my main device has 1.4.5 :/
Aug 05 15:30:49 <en0x> and it rebooted by itself
Aug 05 15:30:57 <Klownicle> wusaint, I have been wanting to try the new wIRC I heard good things, but no 1.4.5 here in the states.  So im waiting.  Currently thoe my phone is being a bitch :(
Aug 05 15:30:57 <halfhalo> Mine has it
Aug 05 15:31:03 <Klownicle> got what en0x?
Aug 05 15:31:13 <en0x> Klownicle: the reboot thingie
Aug 05 15:31:35 <wusaint> Klownicle: I'm in the states :p
Aug 05 15:31:42 <halfhalo> lies
Aug 05 15:31:46 <Klownicle> I think my issue is different en0x.  My phone has just been crashing all over the place.
Aug 05 15:31:55 <Klownicle> Mainly seems during preware usage,
Aug 05 15:31:59 <Klownicle> bah phone is still booting..
Aug 05 15:32:26 <Klownicle> Palm logo is just taunting me as it flashes
Aug 05 15:33:23 <en0x> i think that palm rebooted my phone at night ;d
Aug 05 15:34:13 <Klownicle> I think its in a loop, should I pull battery?
Aug 05 15:35:18 <swisstomcat> and this after a full reset .. strange
Aug 05 15:36:11 <egaudet> luna does take a really long time to start
Aug 05 15:36:20 <halfhalo> Not on a pre plus!
Aug 05 15:36:27 <Klownicle> lol
Aug 05 15:36:27 <halfhalo> like 2 minutes vs 5 for my pre!
Aug 05 15:36:28 <en0x> lol
Aug 05 15:38:02 <Klownicle> I can tell you in all the pres ive had, ive never seen the screen just fade off like its been doing.
Aug 05 15:39:59 <swisstomcat> what could be wrong after a full reset?
Aug 05 15:40:03 <swisstomcat> everything is clear
Aug 05 15:40:09 <Klownicle> unless the full reset failed lol
Aug 05 15:40:29 <Klownicle> Took the battery out, it just sitting at a non flashing palm logo.
Aug 05 15:43:07 <Klownicle> took battery out again, not I got a flashing palm.
Aug 05 15:44:45 <egaudet> doctor
Aug 05 15:45:36 <Klownicle> Via the hold volume up and remove battery and connect usb trick?
Aug 05 15:46:20 <egaudet> sure
Aug 05 15:46:37 <egaudet> if it's not booting that's the way
Aug 05 15:48:03 <Klownicle> Just sitting here flashin the palm logo, seems to be getting quote hot.
Aug 05 15:48:06 <Klownicle> quite*
Aug 05 15:48:13 <Klownicle> I guess ill doctor now.
Aug 05 15:49:59 <wusaint> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover
Aug 05 15:51:07 <Klownicle> Doctoring Now.
Aug 05 15:52:09 <Klownicle> at 12% lalal
Aug 05 15:56:03 <Klownicle> 40%... *whistles while she works*
Aug 05 15:58:25 <Klownicle> 58.. 64%
Aug 05 16:02:01 <Klownicle> Ye for 72%
Aug 05 16:02:11 <Klownicle> Was getting worried there ;)
Aug 05 16:03:10 <Klownicle> wusaint, that link is kinda cool describes the doctor process like a playbook heh
Aug 05 16:04:30 <Klownicle> Went from 82% to Reset Complete, palm logo is showing and just idle.
Aug 05 16:04:58 <Klownicle> Flashin, now the wait.
Aug 05 16:05:50 <Klownicle> They better do somthing about these boot times for 2.0 lol
Aug 05 16:07:57 <Klownicle> Engish Spanish..
Aug 05 16:08:49 <Klownicle> Signing in.. anyone listening out there?
Aug 05 16:09:11 <Klownicle> Restoreing...
Aug 05 16:11:52 <Klownicle> Complete.. Spinning thingy... stopped rebooted, assuming this is normal lol
Aug 05 16:12:00 <Klownicle> Flashing palm lala
Aug 05 16:12:41 <Klownicle> well look at that.
Aug 05 16:12:45 <Klownicle> quick and it botted
Aug 05 16:12:48 <Klownicle> ok what now people?
Aug 05 16:13:49 <Klownicle> Doing Dev Mode...
Aug 05 16:14:09 <Klownicle> I know everyone is on there toes here..
Aug 05 16:14:19 <Klownicle> Anyone pulled out the popcorn yet?
Aug 05 16:25:11 <Klownicle> Guess what...
Aug 05 16:25:15 <Klownicle> Its still booting!
Aug 05 16:25:48 <Klownicle> Me thinks, the phone... has issues
Aug 05 17:59:05 <Klownicle> Well since all you care soo much about my issue heh.
Aug 05 17:59:24 <Klownicle> Just got back from sprint store.  They gave me a new phone and with all the accessories and a extra battery.
Aug 05 17:59:38 <Klownicle> I swear, who needs to by accessories when you can just replace your phone and get all new shit heh.
Aug 05 17:59:42 <Klownicle> Well see how this goes...
Aug 05 18:02:48 <en0x> heh
Aug 05 18:03:37 <Klownicle> im almost affrid to do anything to this phone now lol
Aug 05 18:03:57 <Klownicle> I BEEN SCARED FOR PRE LIFE heh
Aug 05 18:04:42 <swisstomcat> phew
Aug 05 18:04:54 <en0x> stop yelling
Aug 05 18:04:58 <swisstomcat> let us know how it goes
Aug 05 18:05:45 <Klownicle> Can someone tell me this much...
Aug 05 18:05:50 <Klownicle> 1.2.6 of preware.. .is it safe lol
Aug 05 18:05:54 <swisstomcat> sure
Aug 05 18:06:21 <Klownicle> I suppose if there was a problem with preware's latest I would have seen it thats why I really didn't think my issue was related to preware.
Aug 05 18:52:24 <halfhalo_class> Now back to more messing with luna systemui
Aug 05 19:06:30 <xcomp> hmmm ... looks like the next palm pre will have an OMAP3630
Aug 05 19:06:40 <halfhalo_class> ?
Aug 05 19:06:48 <xcomp> you didn't hear it from me
Aug 05 19:07:34 <xcomp> 1ghz, should be capable of 720p video
Aug 05 19:07:42 <halfhalo_class> now I want links
Aug 05 19:07:44 <halfhalo_class> or pics
Aug 05 19:07:47 <halfhalo_class> or a cookie
Aug 05 19:07:52 <halfhalo_class> I'm flexible
Aug 05 19:07:56 <xcomp> 45nm process so much better battery life
Aug 05 19:09:43 <xcomp> i'll be curious to see how far we can overclock that cpu ... with the smaller process 1.5ghz should be easily attainable I think
Aug 05 19:10:08 <halfhalo_class> I doubt it
Aug 05 19:10:51 <xcomp> i wish it was running an OMAP4 instead -- dual core 1ghz
Aug 05 19:11:16 <xcomp> but i think that proc might be a year away from production prime time
Aug 05 19:12:47 <halfhalo_class> ahahahahahahah
Aug 05 19:12:48 <halfhalo_class> hahahahaha
Aug 05 19:12:50 <halfhalo_class> hahaha
Aug 05 19:13:14 <halfhalo_class> The it guy said the reason everyone there is using a windows crapphone is due to exchange
Aug 05 19:13:24 <halfhalo_class> since "it dont work wit nutin else"
Aug 05 19:13:50 <xcomp> now you understand why IT departments are generally grossly incompetent
Aug 05 19:14:09 <halfhalo_class> god...
Aug 05 19:14:14 <halfhalo_class> wait a second... i work in it...
Aug 05 19:15:04 <halfhalo_class> I love their "web 2.0" server
Aug 05 19:16:05 <halfhalo_class> all it is is... osx server
Aug 05 19:16:19 <xcomp> ooh shiny
Aug 05 19:16:46 <Klownicle> Someone say somthing about a new palm pre?
Aug 05 19:16:47 <Klownicle> lol
Aug 05 19:18:03 <swisstomcat> hehe
Aug 05 19:18:06 <swisstomcat> C40 anyone?
Aug 05 19:18:28 <xcomp> lol C40 ... the loch ness monster of smartphones
Aug 05 19:19:36 <xcomp> I can't divulge my sources, but I'm pretty confident about it though.
Aug 05 19:20:03 <swisstomcat> can't we have blurrycam shots?
Aug 05 19:20:16 <halfhalo_class> oh... oh god... the exchange server is running in a vm on the mac server...
Aug 05 19:20:22 <halfhalo_class> WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT
Aug 05 19:20:26 <swisstomcat> yikes
Aug 05 19:21:46 <xcomp> that is terrible
Aug 05 19:22:44 <oil> that is hilarious
Aug 05 19:22:59 <oil> but thats only because i dont have to deal with it :)
Aug 05 19:23:27 <swisstomcat> you would think exchange is the only mailserver available
Aug 05 19:23:43 <halfhalo_class> the default mac one is running as well...
Aug 05 19:27:12 <halfhalo_class> back to me screwing around with luna
Aug 05 19:30:22 <halfhalo_class> I honestly have no idea what I changed
Aug 05 19:30:33 <halfhalo_class> awww..... nothing
Aug 05 19:36:19 <halfhalo_class> THAT did something...
Aug 05 19:43:40 <egaudet> so in another year the "next gen" hardware will be the 3630
Aug 05 19:45:15 <bikefridaywalter> yey
Aug 05 19:47:05 <swisstomcat> yo
Aug 05 19:51:42 <bikefridaywalter> just installed preware, msging plugins & wirc & i'm pumped :)
Aug 05 19:52:57 <en0x> [;
Aug 05 19:53:04 <en0x> fist pump!
Aug 05 19:53:26 <en0x> o/
Aug 05 19:53:28 <en0x> o.
Aug 05 19:53:29 <en0x> o/
Aug 05 19:53:31 <en0x> o.
Aug 05 19:53:33 <en0x> o/
Aug 05 19:53:33 <bikefridaywalter> hehe
Aug 05 19:53:35 <en0x> o.
Aug 05 19:54:23 <en0x> hmm is it 4pm yet?
Aug 05 19:54:34 <bikefridaywalter> now if only it would stay on in the background like messaging
Aug 05 20:21:30 <Jack87_> Hello all!
Aug 05 20:21:48 <Jack87_> dtzWill: Hey Will!
Aug 05 21:19:39 <projectAlarum> Anyone know where I can get a developer rom for the pixi? I have an old one for the pre but can't seem to find any updated versions or anything for the pixi
Aug 05 21:23:04 <halfhalo_class> anyone happen to have ie 7 installed?
Aug 05 21:23:17 <oilsworkn> lol
Aug 05 21:23:25 <Mousey> that was funny
Aug 05 21:24:02 <halfhalo_class> I, unfortunatly, need to see if something works in it and my vm on this computer is retarted
Aug 05 21:24:11 * oilsworkn has yet to upgrade from ie6
Aug 05 21:24:14 <oilsworkn> IE6 FOREVER!
Aug 05 21:24:24 <oilsworkn> lol
Aug 05 21:24:25 * tlp kicks oilsworkn 
Aug 05 21:24:36 * oilsworkn kicks back!
Aug 05 21:24:40 <tlp> :o
Aug 05 21:24:43 <halfhalo_class> ugg.  forgot about ie6.  this project supports it...
Aug 05 21:24:50 <oilsworkn> haha
Aug 05 21:24:55 <tlp> I pretend IE6 doesn't exist.
Aug 05 21:24:56 <xcomp> egaudet: well imo six months from now "next gen" hardware will be dual core procs like the OMAP4 and the new snapdragon
Aug 05 21:24:57 <Robi-> ie8
Aug 05 21:25:27 <oilsworkn> i wonder if they're going to go ie10 after ie9 or go ieX like apple, haha
Aug 05 21:25:27 <xcomp> so I'm actually slightly disappointed that it's a 3630 and not a 4440
Aug 05 21:25:32 <halfhalo_class> oh, hey, the vm booted
Aug 05 21:25:32 <egaudet> yeah so 1 year getting an omap3630 is going to be behind
Aug 05 21:25:37 <halfhalo_class> ok, lets see if flash is there
Aug 05 21:26:16 <Robi-> heh http://s.twimg.com/images/please_fix.png
Aug 05 21:26:39 <halfhalo_class> and... no
Aug 05 21:26:57 <halfhalo_class> trying to see if this works using the flash backend: http://nbrmods.com/video-js/demo.html
Aug 05 21:27:59 <xcomp> the "great" thing about the 3630 is that it is a 45nm chip so it will use a lot less power -> longer battery life
Aug 05 21:28:52 * halfhalo_class cries in a corner
Aug 05 21:39:51 * oilsworkn points and laughs at halfhalo?
Aug 05 21:41:20 <halfhalo_class> ok, semi works
Aug 05 21:41:25 <oilsworkn> lol\
Aug 05 21:42:36 * oilsworkn is very bored
Aug 05 21:50:17 <oilsworkn> "is not a technical term but the German word for "super" and in this case a joke referring to Arnold Schwarzenegger, the "Govnah". That is why the Govnah app header says, "Much better than Arnie.""
Aug 05 21:50:23 <oilsworkn> why does that keep making it into wiki pages?
Aug 05 21:50:46 <halfhalo_class> because
Aug 05 21:50:59 <oilsworkn> rwhitby adds a random tagline, and now he is the reason for naming stuff, lol
Aug 05 21:55:05 * oilsworkn fixed it again
Aug 05 22:14:24 <Ki11er> hey, I have two questions...
Aug 05 22:25:51 <Robi-> coulda asked
Aug 05 22:26:30 <Robi-> productivity jumps as twitter is down
Aug 05 22:27:20 <Mousey> lol centralized services
Aug 05 22:28:13 <halfhalo_class> Hmmm
Aug 05 22:28:24 <halfhalo_class> Tempted to play around with cherokee server
Aug 05 22:38:55 <sui> hi
Aug 05 22:39:33 <halfhalo_class> hi
Aug 05 22:40:53 <Mousey> hi
Aug 05 22:40:57 <sui> is there a possibility to recreate the list of installed packages and patches in preware? i deleted any files concerning to *webos*.log in /media/internal/ and now i do not have a list of installed packages any more
Aug 05 22:43:02 <sui> if not, i will doctor my phone immediately
Aug 05 22:43:24 <egaudet> I don't think there is any lists in *webos*.log
Aug 05 22:44:15 <egaudet> what are you trying to do?
Aug 05 22:44:58 <sui> egaudet: i don't remember the names exactly any more. it's been 2 days ago that i deleted those files
Aug 05 22:46:04 <egaudet> what is it that you are trying to do?
Aug 05 22:47:59 <sui> egaudet: i just cleaned up /media/internal. and now i want to write a little bash-script and collect all patches and apps that are installed with preware or app catalog and save them to the proper file
Aug 05 22:49:04 <sui> can i do something like that?
Aug 05 22:49:41 <egaudet> you want to save all the actual packages?
Aug 05 22:50:11 <egaudet> preware -> saved package list will save the list of installed packages
Aug 05 22:50:20 <sui> yes
Aug 05 22:50:46 <egaudet> you can update that, save it, copy it to PC, and later use save/restore to restore it.
Aug 05 22:51:06 <sui> i don't know why but thats not working
Aug 05 22:51:25 <egaudet> which part is not working
Aug 05 22:51:27 <sui> in preware it seems like i have no package or patch installed
Aug 05 22:51:41 <sui> installed package list is empty
Aug 05 22:51:54 <egaudet> did this occur randomly?
Aug 05 22:52:08 <sui> everytime i start preware
Aug 05 22:52:12 <egaudet> you can try ERU if it is due to a corrupted status file
Aug 05 22:52:47 <egaudet> which is known to happen if installing something with QI/Internalz while an app catalog install is occurring in the background
Aug 05 22:53:12 <sui> whats eru? emergency ...?
Aug 05 22:53:19 <egaudet> emergency repair utility
Aug 05 22:54:47 <sui> i will try this.
Aug 05 22:55:10 <sui> i've seen a list of packages. will restart peware
Aug 05 22:56:06 <sui> \o/
Aug 05 22:56:16 <sui> it worked
Aug 05 22:56:41 <sui> ty very much
Aug 05 23:01:40 <egaudet> np
Aug 05 23:38:20 <halfhalo> maple syrup
Aug 05 23:38:59 <sui> wish you a good night :)
Aug 05 23:41:13 <wusaint> getting ready to sit in on tonights podcast with Rahul Sood. Anybody have some last minute questions?
Aug 05 23:46:39 <rwhitby> wusaint: is he overclocking?
Aug 05 23:47:06 <wusaint> lol that was a given from me
Aug 05 23:47:46 <jhowirc> is he using sr71?
Aug 05 23:47:56 <jhowirc> why isn't it live?
Aug 05 23:48:22 <jhowirc> where is 145?
Aug 05 23:48:23 <wusaint> we haven't got everything up for live podcasting. it's coming in a couple weeks
Aug 05 23:48:41 <jhowirc> are we going to get a new kernel soon?
Aug 05 23:49:06 <rwhitby> jhowirc: be reasonable, there's no way he can answer that.
Aug 05 23:49:27 <wusaint> lol doesn't stop us from asking
Aug 05 23:50:00 <jhowirc> lol :)
Aug 05 23:50:08 <jhowirc> just kidding
Aug 05 23:50:32 <jhowirc> rwhitby is the voice of reason
Aug 05 23:50:38 <wusaint> always
Aug 05 23:50:46 <wusaint> :p
Aug 05 23:50:53 <rwhitby> wusaint: well, the more frivolous questions you ask, the less likely you are to get real answers to the real questions
Aug 05 23:51:13 <jhowirc> ask him more gaming related questions
Aug 05 23:51:47 <wusaint> like what he thinks of ExZeus? which is awesome by the way!
Aug 05 23:52:12 <jhowirc> where does he see the future of mobile gaming and how webos could tie in
Aug 05 23:52:40 <wusaint> that's a good one
Aug 05 23:53:35 <wusaint> jhowirc: aren't you running 145?
Aug 05 23:53:43 <rwhitby> does he think that the carrier control of tethering is impeding the progress of cross-platform mobile gaming
Aug 05 23:54:27 <rwhitby> e.g. mobile hotspot is perfect for ad-hoc mobile gaming without needing a wifi access point
Aug 05 23:54:37 <wusaint> rwhitby: now that is a solid question
Aug 05 23:56:28 <rwhitby> as an entrepreneur in the area of breakthrough performance on the desktop, what are his thoughts on using third-party overclocking on mobile platforms for increasing gaming performance?
Aug 05 23:58:46 <wusaint> ok I just took  down three of those questions. good questions guys. I'll try and make sure they get asked
Aug 06 00:00:16 <jhowirc> personally I only a fan of minimal overclocking
Aug 06 00:02:12 <wusaint> ok I gtg ttyl
Aug 06 00:02:14 <jhowirc> s/i/i am/
Aug 06 00:02:15 <infobot> jhowirc meant: personally I only a fan of mi amnimal overclocking
Aug 06 00:02:39 <egaudet> I want to manually change the accelerometer rate, but I dont' want to make an app to do JUST that
Aug 06 00:02:47 <egaudet> app/service
Aug 06 00:03:24 <egaudet> so sick and tired of the long delay in orientation changes
Aug 06 00:10:48 <jhowirc> I thought there was a patch for it
Aug 06 00:11:22 <egaudet> A patch would need to call a shell script to change it
Aug 06 00:11:37 <egaudet> I don't mean just using the "fast" mode or whatever they provided for games
Aug 06 00:11:43 <egaudet> I want total control :)
Aug 06 00:16:15 <egaudet> Can I put it in govnah?
Aug 06 00:17:32 <jhowirc> sure
Aug 06 00:17:38 <jhowirc> :)
Aug 06 00:18:41 <jhowirc> personally I wish they would add a gesture for orientation hold
Aug 06 00:19:07 <jhowirc> hard to read in bed when the orientation changes :)
Aug 06 00:23:29 <egaudet> yea that would be good idea for a patch in one of the menus to force a stage to an orientation
Aug 06 01:53:32 <wusaint> ok guys I'm back. Rahul is a pretty cool guy
Aug 06 01:54:43 <wusaint> on the record he does not overclock. however in the chat he in fact does overclock lol
Aug 06 01:56:25 <wusaint> rwhitby: I only managed to slip in your question about tethering. sorry he can't officially talk promote overclocking
Aug 06 02:57:05 <wusaint> anybody participating in the spaz hackathon? it's for a good cause and Ed could use the help
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