**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 16 02:59:56 2010 Aug 16 02:59:59 lets try this webos repair utility thing out Aug 16 03:00:29 how old is your pre Aug 16 03:02:51 well it seems my pre hates 58 on 1.005 Aug 16 03:02:55 READ Aug 16 03:03:09 "replaced a month in so essentially launch day." Aug 16 03:03:22 ohhhh sorry I must have missed that Aug 16 03:12:39 its a shame there isnt a decent remote viewing app Aug 16 03:24:25 does anyone have an extended battery that is touchstone compatable Aug 16 03:43:31 i dont think any of them are out of the box Aug 16 03:43:49 though ive heard of people hacking them to work Aug 16 03:49:14 do you know of any larger batteries that do fit with the ts back Aug 16 03:50:33 i thought i saw one that was just a little bigger then stock but still was the same size Aug 16 03:52:35 the 1350 and 1400mah batteries fit Aug 16 04:07:10 does anyone have the system menu mode menu working Aug 16 04:16:49 that's a lot of menus Aug 16 04:17:34 trying it Aug 16 04:18:01 I cant get it working Aug 16 04:19:18 works on mine Aug 16 04:19:30 how does it work Aug 16 04:19:50 do you need to enable it? Aug 16 04:19:56 nope Aug 16 04:20:12 do you have mode switcher installed? Aug 16 04:20:18 so where are the options Aug 16 04:20:57 status: Default Settings(which is greyed out) Aug 16 04:21:20 2 modes I have in mode switcher, "Sleep" and "Work" Aug 16 04:21:35 and "disable mode triggers" Aug 16 04:25:06 is there anything I need to do to get it working Aug 16 04:25:27 do you have the framework installed? Aug 16 04:25:37 and Mode Switcher installed? Aug 16 04:26:09 hmm I dont think so I have never need it Aug 16 04:26:13 mode switcher Aug 16 04:29:18 The description says "This is only useful if you have Mode Switcher installed" Aug 16 04:32:05 hmm is mode switcher a patch or app Aug 16 04:33:54 an app that requires a patch as well Aug 16 04:34:50 so why do you want this patch? Maybe you are confusing it with another system menu patch? Aug 16 04:35:41 isnt there a ton of options for it Aug 16 04:37:01 there's like 4 System Menu patches that each do something different Aug 16 04:38:50 one for mode switcher, one that lists today's schedule, a device menu one, a width one Aug 16 04:40:35 jhojho: Is warthog-97 still available to install? Aug 16 04:40:52 look on ipkg.preware.org Aug 16 04:41:57 ahh, looks like it Aug 16 04:42:00 excellent Aug 16 04:42:16 I don't think there's a way to use 100 on this phone Aug 16 04:42:53 according to rwhitby, govnah makes the voltage sticky Aug 16 04:43:27 so in theory, you can set the voltage to whatever you want Aug 16 04:44:04 the -100 kernel doesn't overwrite those values when it's installed? Aug 16 04:44:30 it may Aug 16 04:45:00 -100 works for me which is the main criteria Aug 16 04:45:16 your phone must be strong :p Aug 16 04:45:19 i may choose to revert at some point but have not decided Aug 16 04:45:29 I have multiple phones running -100 just fine Aug 16 04:45:51 is the only change the voltages? Aug 16 04:45:58 essentially Aug 16 04:52:51 is mode switcher in the webos-internals feed? Aug 16 04:53:19 if it's not check the testing feed Aug 16 04:54:06 yeah check the testing feed Aug 16 04:54:16 Yes it's in the testing feed Aug 16 04:55:18 nno wonder I cant find it I need to update my feeds Aug 16 05:09:42 Hi there Aug 16 05:09:49 Sorry if I interrupt Aug 16 05:10:19 but I was wondering if there is a 1.4.5 WebOS doctor that can be use the wifi to access de palm profile Aug 16 05:10:45 Thats becasuse Im using a Sprint 1.4.1.1 WebOS and the actualization does not apear in the "updates" Aug 16 05:10:53 Im sereval days in this Aug 16 05:11:20 so I wanted to download a 1.4.5 WebOS doctor and then activate it via wifi Aug 16 05:11:44 because Im in a CDMA Sprint Pre and dont have a Carrier in my country Aug 16 05:11:52 anyone? Aug 16 05:12:09 you cant turn on wifi at hte profile scene? Aug 16 05:12:59 hm Aug 16 05:13:12 cause i dont have a plan on my dev device Aug 16 05:13:17 and i never have the trouble you describe Aug 16 05:13:20 Xavier_: you want the meta-doctor Aug 16 05:13:23 yeah Aug 16 05:13:24 thats it Aug 16 05:13:25 lol Aug 16 05:14:01 Well thats the only alternative I see around Aug 16 05:14:22 jhojho: sticky voltages are no good if the default boot OPP does not work on the device Aug 16 05:14:31 but it just wonder if there is a WebOS doctor with such caratheristics Aug 16 05:14:56 oil no I cant Aug 16 05:15:23 Xavier_: the meta-doctor takes the doctor you put with it and changes it to be better Aug 16 05:15:26 and do what you want Aug 16 05:15:53 rwhitby: true. Aug 16 05:16:20 Xavier_: distributing an already modified webOS Doctor violates copyright laws Aug 16 05:16:25 hence the meta-doctor Aug 16 05:16:27 oil: but it is only to use with Linux rhigt? or a VirtualBoxed versio Aug 16 05:16:30 :O Aug 16 05:16:39 I didn't notice that! Aug 16 05:16:41 right Aug 16 05:16:44 so install a vm Aug 16 05:16:45 do it up Aug 16 05:16:48 thats what i did :) Aug 16 05:17:08 to be clear the voltages only changed for 600, 720 and 800 between -97 and -100 Aug 16 05:17:13 ok thank you Aug 16 05:17:21 have a great day Aug 16 05:17:39 so if you were able to boot at 500 on -97 it'll work on -100 too Aug 16 05:18:04 jhojho: does warthog boot at stock freqs or overclocked? Aug 16 05:18:34 it should boot at stock Aug 16 05:18:46 i havent changed it Aug 16 05:29:23 very gary Aug 16 05:58:19 g Aug 16 05:58:22 ggxggdg Aug 16 05:58:24 jdh Aug 16 05:58:26 hhh Aug 16 05:58:32 gg Aug 16 05:58:35 hello Aug 16 05:59:03 lol Aug 16 05:59:10 when did govnah become wirc? Aug 16 06:06:15 morning Aug 16 07:10:50 I need help. I can't get the Left side personal avatar patch to work. Aug 16 12:28:57 ~seen drnull Aug 16 12:28:58 drnull is currently on #webos-internals, last said: 'bsiegel: I bet that's intentional - notice that any other key next to another one operates the same way'. Aug 16 13:08:28 jhojho: ping Aug 16 13:08:41 ping Aug 16 13:08:50 figured out the problem Aug 16 13:08:54 cool Aug 16 13:09:07 what was the problem? :) Aug 16 13:09:16 the old db was still referencing /media/internal/PrePod Aug 16 13:09:23 ah, you're that email. :) Aug 16 13:09:27 and I didnt want to lose all my old settings =) Aug 16 13:09:42 did you just run a sql statement to update the paths? Aug 16 13:09:45 so I just moved the db from the old app-storage to the new Aug 16 13:10:00 hoping you didnt change the table =) Aug 16 13:10:22 so it works now as long as I have both PrePod and drPodder directories Aug 16 13:10:36 so almost everything works now, just have to fix up preader Aug 16 13:10:49 haha, there have been few changes, but it would probably work (since each change also necessitated an upgrade script for people who had old version) Aug 16 13:11:00 so you left the files in both places? Aug 16 13:11:08 yeah Aug 16 13:11:08 the Aug 16 13:11:09 Aug 16 13:11:27 reason being I had previously downloaded podcasts I wanted to keep Aug 16 13:11:35 plus all the feeds were already set up Aug 16 13:12:12 one thing to note, if you update the paths in drPodder's db, then deletion of finished episodes won't work since. Actually, since you're using the old PrePod db, deletion won't work period. deletion then deleted based on file path. deletion now deletes based on a "ticket" that the download manager gives when I download a file. Aug 16 13:12:21 tickets weren't recorded back in PrePod days Aug 16 13:12:40 hrm Aug 16 13:13:38 okay Aug 16 13:14:03 wth laggy client Aug 16 13:14:09 i just deleted an episode Aug 16 13:14:35 drnull: have you ever worked with .m3u files and streaming those (withe the html5 audio player) Aug 16 13:14:38 and actually, now that I think about it, upgrading from prepod to drPodder wasn't ever really "supported". There was a lot of manual stuff that had to be done... I'm not sure your table structures will look "correct". Aug 16 13:14:44 and it looks like it will delete it out of the app Aug 16 13:14:56 swisstomcat: no, those are playlist files, right? Aug 16 13:15:03 yeah Aug 16 13:15:22 some online radio streams point to .m3u files Aug 16 13:15:42 gotcha. never tried... do they work at all? Aug 16 13:15:48 nah, they don't work Aug 16 13:16:04 they work with the webos streaming player tho Aug 16 13:16:09 so the new drpodder has Aug 16 13:16:13 CREATE TABLE 'episode' (id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, feedId INTEGER, displayOrder INTEGER, title TEXT, description TEXT, enclosure TEXT, guid TEXT, link TEXT, position REAL, pubDate TEXT, pubDateTime INTEGER, downloadTicket INTEGER, downloaded BOOLEAN, listened BOOLEAN, file TEXT, length REAL, type TEXT); Aug 16 13:16:13 CREATE TABLE 'feed' (id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, displayOrder INTEGER, title TEXT, url TEXT, albumArt TEXT, autoDelete BOOLEAN, autoDownload BOOLEAN, maxDownloads INTEGER, interval INTEGER, lastModified TEXT, replacements TEXT, maxDisplay INTEGER, viewFilter TEXT, username TEXT, password TEXT, hideFromOS BOOLEAN, maxEpisodes INTEGER); Aug 16 13:16:23 and the older has Aug 16 13:16:36 CREATE TABLE 'episode' (id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, feedId INTEGER, displayOrder INTEGER, title TEXT, description TEXT, enclosure TEXT, guid TEXT, link TEXT, position REAL, pubDate TEXT, downloadTicket INTEGER, downloaded BOOLEAN, listened BOOLEAN, file TEXT, length REAL, type TEXT, pubDateTime INTEGER); Aug 16 13:16:36 CREATE TABLE 'feed' (id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, displayOrder INTEGER, title TEXT, url TEXT, albumArt TEXT, autoDelete BOOLEAN, autoDownload BOOLEAN, maxDownloads INTEGER, interval INTEGER, lastModified TEXT, replacements TEXT, maxDisplay INTEGER, viewFilter TEXT, username TEXT, password TEXT, hideFromOS BOOLEAN, maxEpisodes INTEGER); Aug 16 13:17:03 *sigh*. I really wish we could get more codecs supported... so many .m4a files cause issues in drPodder, I just have this "form letter" response I send back to support emails. Also, I have a Clemson radio feed (wccpfm) that I'd LOVE to stream on my Pre, but it uses windows media format or something. :( Aug 16 13:17:16 i have an app idea but i would need to play streams in .m3u files .. and also read the meta-data of the songs played Aug 16 13:17:39 drnull: I dont suppose you have a script lying around that will upgrade the table Aug 16 13:17:46 might have to go the PDK route Aug 16 13:18:05 swisstomcat: thought of routing it through your own server first, stripping off the meta-data, transcoding if necessary, and serving up that info via ajax? Aug 16 13:18:13 jhojho: just a sec, I think I do Aug 16 13:18:28 k Aug 16 13:19:05 drnull: i would need a beefy server then Aug 16 13:19:16 oh Aug 16 13:19:21 you mean just the meta-data stuff? Aug 16 13:19:27 good point Aug 16 13:19:46 swisstomcat: node.js =D Aug 16 13:19:50 jhojho: http://webos.pastebin.com/hDsRCWxd (note that it's unsupported... I did something like this myself...) Aug 16 13:20:09 jhojho: good to learn node.js Aug 16 13:20:41 oh I lose all downloaded episodes? Aug 16 13:21:51 the point of that is just that the "ticket" for those downloaded episodes isn't readily available. Aug 16 13:22:09 so it was easier to just clear them all, hook up to wifi, and redownload them so that the ticket was saved. Aug 16 13:22:25 But your old/new/bookmark settings are preserved, which I found to be more important for myself. Aug 16 13:24:02 fair enuff Aug 16 13:24:13 and btw, the ticket *is* available, but it's in another .db file down in like /var/palm or something Aug 16 13:24:22 but it would be extra steps to go find the tickets Aug 16 13:24:45 I guess I can wait till I've worked my way through the old podcasts Aug 16 13:25:42 one thing to keep in mind is that prepod and drPodder can run side-by-side.... of course, if you've doctor'ed... there's no way to get the old prepod is there? Do any of the old ipk feeds keep archives of old versions? Aug 16 13:27:38 possibly, I'll have to look Aug 16 13:27:46 doesn't look like it goes back far enough. drPodder exists back to 0.5.4, but I can't find prepod at http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/precentral/ Aug 16 13:28:00 but I just want back and looked at the schema agin Aug 16 13:28:19 0.4.8 has downloadTicket Aug 16 13:28:33 but no pubDateTime Aug 16 13:28:55 so thats the te column I'm missing Aug 16 13:29:46 not sure what you use that vs pubDate for Aug 16 13:29:58 it has downloadTicket, but I'm not sure I was filling it in at that time... Well, actually, I probably started filling it in around 0.4.6 or something, but never started using it till I moved out of the com.palm domain and had to start deleting via downloadTicket Aug 16 13:30:19 pubDate is just for ease of sorting Aug 16 13:31:04 for the (eventual) move to everything staying in the database instead of ALL being loaded into memory at application start (please, don't stone me, I know that's a poor programming practice) Aug 16 13:31:54 anything bad happen now if I do Aug 16 13:31:58 jhojho: you are codecrumb right? Aug 16 13:32:14 sqlite3 /media/internal/.app-storage/file_.media.cryptofs.apps.usr.palm.applications.com.drnull.drpodder-hb_0/*.db 'update episode set pubDateTime=null' ? Aug 16 13:32:16 yes Aug 16 13:32:42 just checking cause I emailed you the old 0.4.8 version if you want to run both Aug 16 13:33:06 so that would empty out the sorting key... possibly making the episodes be out of order. Aug 16 13:33:13 oh cool Aug 16 13:33:31 you're saying though that you don't have that field, right? so you'd need an alter statement to add that field wouldn't you? Aug 16 13:33:56 oh yeah Aug 16 13:35:36 so sqlite3 /media/internal/.app-storage/file_.media.cryptofs.apps.usr.palm.applications.com.member:drnull.drpodder-hb_0/*.db ' alter table episode add column pubDateTime' Aug 16 13:37:17 checkout the migrationSql statements in db.js (http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/drpodder.git;a=blob;f=src/app/models/db.js) Aug 16 13:37:46 but basically right, just need the datatype. Aug 16 13:39:09 my bad Aug 16 13:39:15 pubDateTime is already there. Aug 16 13:39:21 just in different order Aug 16 13:39:27 it was tacked onto the end Aug 16 13:41:55 there is some stuff in downloadTicket but just some numbers so it may be that the tables are mostly if not totally compatible already. Aug 16 13:43:23 cool, maybe the migration statements worked even with an old db. :) Aug 16 13:43:47 lol Aug 16 13:44:33 yeah i think things are working fine now Aug 16 13:44:56 i just need to get in touch with the preader dev and figure out how his app works and i'll be fine Aug 16 13:45:13 his app has like 20 *.db files Aug 16 13:45:31 so I'm not feeling up to pawing through all of them Aug 16 14:45:59 hello is anyone hear Aug 16 14:47:53 I have preware installed loads with errors but seems to be working until I try to install the button does nothing Aug 16 14:51:39 preware won't install please help Aug 16 14:59:29 install button won't work please help Aug 16 15:17:04 dtzWill: ping Aug 16 15:39:27 hey, anyway to mount/access the host computer over novacom term? Aug 16 15:39:38 hi Aug 16 15:39:44 novacom -t open tty:// Aug 16 15:40:02 no, i know but then i want to mount the host computer over that connection Aug 16 15:40:19 like copy files from the pre to the host windows computer Aug 16 15:40:23 not unless the host has an ssh or telnet server or something Aug 16 15:40:25 ah, i see Aug 16 15:40:31 you could use scp Aug 16 15:40:38 i recommend just dump files in /media/internal and get them over usb Aug 16 15:40:46 yeah, that usually works for me Aug 16 15:41:13 yeah, thats what i was doing but i was just wondering Aug 16 15:41:53 what about using usbnet, but instead of tethering your pc to your phone's wan connection, you join the pre to the pc's lan Aug 16 15:42:05 ~seen dtzWill Aug 16 15:42:06 dtzwill is currently on #webos-internals (14h 34m 21s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 12h 49m 31s, last said: 'anyone remember the trick for configuring sb2 for multiple toolchains and quickly switching them?'. Aug 16 15:44:11 sort of a reverse tether minus the wlan, all over usb Aug 16 15:46:56 it would be interesting to get the pre on a network when it doesn't have or need wlan Aug 16 15:59:32 hey guys...anyone know how long to expect a new version of an app to appear after you change the MakeFile in Preware? I updated Save/Restore in the testing feed but still dont see it at http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/ Aug 16 16:09:25 Hello there, any homebrewers who might be able to help me?? I'm looking for a way to modify my call history; specifically, to add a call to my history which wasn't actually made. Aug 16 16:09:47 possible? Aug 16 16:11:29 probably possible Aug 16 16:12:51 I was looking at PalmDatabase.db3, but I really don't think theres an easy way of "adding" a call thtough there, and I am a little wary of attempting to edit the database Aug 16 16:13:10 IOW, idk wtf I'm doing. Aug 16 16:15:23 it's a sqlite database, you could probably copy it to your desktop, edit it and copy back Aug 16 16:16:11 That's kind of what I was thinking, but I ran into a roadblock when I realized I've never dealt with an sqlite database.. Aug 16 16:17:35 use any sqlite client Aug 16 16:19:25 steez, it is possible, edit the database with any sqllite client like swisstomcat said, then push the database back into the phone, immediately device reset Aug 16 16:19:39 note that messing with the database can have unexpected results Aug 16 16:20:42 I'm okay with unexpected results. are there any free sqlite clients which I might be able to fumble throough? google hasnt been a ton of help Aug 16 16:21:10 http://sqlite.org/download.html Aug 16 16:23:25 I feel like I need a gui application.... I'm far to unskilled for the command line app at sqlite.org Aug 16 16:23:41 windows or linux? Aug 16 16:23:47 windows Aug 16 16:23:59 Though i can fire up linux if necessary Aug 16 16:24:02 i think there's even a firefox plugin Aug 16 16:24:11 I'll search for it! Aug 16 16:24:20 http://sqliteadmin.orbmu2k.de/ Aug 16 16:24:32 and for linux http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/ Aug 16 16:24:53 I googled sqllite gui and those were results 2 and 3 Aug 16 16:25:29 dundunduuunnnnnnnnn Aug 16 16:25:48 morning halfhalo Aug 16 16:25:55 oh noes, it's halfhalo_class Aug 16 16:26:08 inorit Aug 16 16:26:45 thx very much cryptk Aug 16 16:26:48 There is way to much stuff waiting on xcode to install right now Aug 16 16:27:18 cryptk: that should be the direction in which to figure out how to back up all the stuff in SQLite DBs too Aug 16 16:28:07 Robi_, we can do it already, it jsut isn't safe Aug 16 16:28:13 and which parts cause mms to fail Aug 16 16:28:22 bah, safe Aug 16 16:28:39 it is possible to do it though, I have done it in the past Aug 16 16:28:49 but it seems to randomly bork the database for some reason Aug 16 16:29:40 cryptk: define safe :> i dont mean just dump the db, dumping specific tables only, not other schema that may have other values that don't match up to another device or install Aug 16 16:30:36 wow, check out 3dtin.com Aug 16 16:31:12 ugh.... any chance someone wants to take a stab at narrowing me in a bit on what needs to be editted? i feel like im wandering in the dark... Aug 16 16:31:39 I have the database file opened in sqliteadmin, thus far.... thats the extent of my progress Aug 16 16:36:40 Tibfib: pong :) Aug 16 16:37:05 .. :( Aug 16 16:40:30 So, trying to edit palmdatabase.db3 to add history for a call that never actually happened... I have the database opened in an sqlite client, but I'm stumped from here. Any further help would be appreciated. Aug 16 16:48:22 cryptk, thanks for you help so far, but I could use a litle more advice, if you can. Aug 16 16:48:25 So, trying to edit palmdatabase.db3 to add history for a call that never actually happened... I have the database opened in an sqlite client, but I'm stumped from here. Any further help would be appreciated. Aug 16 16:50:29 I have never done that before.... sorry Aug 16 16:50:49 I'm not very familiar wiht sqlite clients... all i can see is the actual sql, but i can't find where the actual data is! Aug 16 16:50:59 Okay. Aug 16 17:00:34 are the testing feeds gone or something? Aug 16 17:01:32 not working for me Aug 16 17:04:56 wat Aug 16 17:05:01 now it works Aug 16 17:47:51 May as well try this again... Aug 16 17:48:00 So, trying to edit palmdatabase.db3 to add history for a call that never actually happened... I have the database opened in an sqlite client, but I'm stumped from here. Any further help would be appreciated. Aug 16 17:49:01 i think I've located the approriate table in "com_palm_superlog_Superlog", but I have no idea how to edit the data there... Aug 16 17:50:29 sorry have not done anything with the palmdatabase.db3 yet Aug 16 17:52:53 okay, thx for the response. Aug 16 18:36:26 hello Aug 16 18:36:29 I need help Aug 16 18:36:38 I'm using a Palm Pre Plus. Aug 16 18:36:43 anybody there?! Aug 16 18:37:46 It's best just to ask your question Aug 16 18:38:03 thank you: How do I work Pound IRC? Aug 16 18:38:08 the network preferences? Aug 16 18:38:17 how do I connect to freenode on pound irc? Aug 16 18:38:37 we don't make poundIRC Aug 16 18:38:40 we make WIRC Aug 16 18:38:53 ok, how do I install wIRC to my palm pre plus? Aug 16 18:39:00 you have preware? Aug 16 18:39:08 Ick, it uses WebIRC installs? Aug 16 18:39:10 what's preware? Aug 16 18:39:22 preware is what is used to isntall homebrew apps Aug 16 18:39:32 webos-internals is a homebrew community Aug 16 18:39:33 I have webos quick install Aug 16 18:39:47 you can install preware using quick install Aug 16 18:39:55 oh Aug 16 18:40:18 http://install.preware.org Aug 16 18:40:23 that link has install info Aug 16 18:40:40 or you can ask the dev of poundIRC for help if you would prefer to stick with pound Aug 16 18:40:58 but pretty much everyone in this IRC will likely only have experience with WIRC (since we made it) Aug 16 18:42:13 I know. :) Aug 16 18:43:14 I use WIRC and it is amazing Aug 16 18:43:25 how do I choose webos internal feed from the list? Aug 16 18:44:10 did you click the blue arrow? Aug 16 18:44:30 after you click the blue arrow there is a dropdown in the window that comes up Aug 16 18:44:52 then in that dropdown choose webos internals feed (pre) or (pixi) if you are on a pixi Aug 16 18:46:21 i waited >1 yr to test homebrew and now feel plain stupid for waiting this long. documentation, quality and ease of use is superb, great job devs Aug 16 18:46:35 wowser, got it. :) Thanks! Aug 16 18:48:24 once you install preware, launch it on your phone, let it update the feeds (takes a little time) then type in wirc at the main window (you will see the text show up at the top) Aug 16 18:48:34 then press enter, you will see the wirc app Aug 16 18:48:38 tap it and then tap install Aug 16 18:48:43 boom you have wirc Aug 16 18:49:01 if you need any help with it we have a channel secially for that #wirc Aug 16 18:49:22 ORLY Aug 16 18:53:53 halfhalo_class, RLY! Aug 16 18:54:03 RLYRLY? Aug 16 18:54:50 Netbook is yelling at me to install moblin stuff Aug 16 18:56:04 it says it's "waiting for the plugin". Did I install it right? Aug 16 18:56:10 no Aug 16 18:56:32 well, maybe Aug 16 18:56:38 restart the phone to find out Aug 16 18:56:42 Pikula1, what version of webos are you running? Aug 16 18:56:49 1.4.5? Aug 16 18:56:54 how do I find out? Aug 16 18:58:35 1.4.1.1 Aug 16 18:59:10 is 1.4.5 available for your carrier? Aug 16 18:59:20 i'm checking Aug 16 18:59:21 the new wirc requires 1.4.5 Aug 16 18:59:28 who is your carrier? Aug 16 18:59:32 verizon Aug 16 18:59:37 awww, I can't have it. :( Aug 16 18:59:54 how do I talk to the dev of poundirc? Aug 16 19:00:12 hang on, I will get you the files for the old wirc Aug 16 19:00:17 those will work on your phone Aug 16 19:01:06 * halfhalo_class cries Aug 16 19:01:18 that or you can try getting ahold of him on the precentral forums Aug 16 19:01:36 (or search for your problem on those forums, it is likely already answered somewhere) Aug 16 19:03:10 Pikula1, pre or pixi? Aug 16 19:04:59 pre Aug 16 19:07:11 remove that wirc, download this and drop it into QI Aug 16 19:07:13 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/org.webosinternals.wirc_0.2.4_arm.ipk Aug 16 19:07:31 that is the 'old' version that works on the pre 1.4.5 devices Aug 16 19:07:33 what's my QI? Aug 16 19:07:56 how do I remove wirc? Aug 16 19:08:01 Quick Install Aug 16 19:08:07 orange tap liek any other app Aug 16 19:08:25 also isntall this one http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/us.ryanhope.wircd_0.1.0_armv7.ipk Aug 16 19:08:30 that is the service that makes it work Aug 16 19:08:42 so orange-tap remove wirc, then download and install both of those Aug 16 19:08:50 * dr_jkl sweatdrops Aug 16 19:08:55 then you should have the old wirc that will work on your pre Aug 16 19:08:56 perhaps 'hot enough to make asian kids cry' was not a wise answer to 'and how hot would you like your general tso's, miss?' Aug 16 19:09:00 orange tap? Aug 16 19:09:10 sorry, your on vzw Aug 16 19:09:12 the silver button Aug 16 19:09:18 forgot yours isn't orange, lol Aug 16 19:09:33 in the bottom left corner of your keyboard Aug 16 19:09:41 Its not orange on vzw? Aug 16 19:09:45 hold the silver button and tap on the wirc icon in your launcher Aug 16 19:09:57 well, he didn't know what orange tap is so I would assume not Aug 16 19:10:15 I know some carriers it is silver like the rest of the kayboard Aug 16 19:10:25 true, oh ok Aug 16 19:10:31 I think the plusses it is silver Aug 16 19:10:37 so just about everyone but sprint, lol Aug 16 19:10:43 silver button?? Aug 16 19:11:18 bottom left corner of your keyboard Aug 16 19:11:22 the button that is all one color Aug 16 19:11:34 oh Aug 16 19:11:36 doesn't have a letter, symbol, just a colored square looking thing Aug 16 19:11:50 what color is it on your phone btw? orange or silver/white/grey/whatever Aug 16 19:12:02 its grey Aug 16 19:12:04 GREY MAN Aug 16 19:12:06 GREY Aug 16 19:12:12 lol Aug 16 19:12:24 ok, wtfbbq Aug 16 19:12:34 it's launches it. it doesn't delete it Aug 16 19:12:42 wifi network just went down Aug 16 19:12:54 ouch Aug 16 19:13:02 yeah Aug 16 19:13:52 ipad has 3g, pre has 3g, work mbp has ethernet, but T400 and netbook are dead Aug 16 19:14:36 hold that button down while you tap on it Aug 16 19:14:44 ya really ouch Aug 16 19:14:53 how do you find the ipad? Aug 16 19:14:53 in the launcher btw, not in preware Aug 16 19:15:02 or go to the app in preware and click on remove Aug 16 19:15:31 ok, its up for about 3 seconds on connect to one of the wifi netowkrs Aug 16 19:16:10 I did hold the button down while I tap on it. and it launches it Aug 16 19:17:01 use the second method cryptk told you then Aug 16 19:17:19 find it in preware and click remove Aug 16 19:18:00 kk Aug 16 19:21:47 it's taking forever to remove Aug 16 19:26:47 wirc isn't running while trying to remove it is it? Aug 16 19:27:03 thats always fun Aug 16 19:27:25 i don't think it's running Aug 16 19:30:50 is it still 'removing' Aug 16 19:31:28 if so, reboot phone and try again... wirc is probably hung in the background because it is failing to launch the plugin (which can't be used on versions < 1.4.5 Aug 16 19:33:01