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Aug 19 04:04:21 <k-> say i didn't have windows and i needed to perform an operation similar to what WebOS doctor does... is there any possibility?
Aug 19 04:04:53 <halfhalo> doctor works on windows, mac, and linux...
Aug 19 04:05:04 <rwhitby> windows is the least well supported platform for novacom
Aug 19 04:06:02 <k-> hmm... then let's say i have ony a linux console with the dev kit and novacom...
Aug 19 04:06:39 <rwhitby> k-: look at meta-doctor
Aug 19 04:07:24 <k-> rwhitby: checking...
Aug 19 04:08:05 <k-> rwhitby: success...
Aug 19 04:08:20 <k-> thangs guys... cya*
Aug 19 04:08:29 <k-> *thanks
Aug 19 04:08:39 <rwhitby> k-: what is your end goal?
Aug 19 04:09:55 <k-> none: but i accidentally ran dhclient and suffered the error: unable to contact host [2006], did tech support they said go to sprint. went to sprint today, they ordered a new phone that i should be picking up in two days. but everything is resolved now... =\
Aug 19 04:21:09 <jessse> does anyone know why the quake app for preware isn't working.
Aug 19 04:21:47 <dtzWill> jessse: hasn't been updated for 1.4.5 yet.
Aug 19 04:22:22 <rwhitby> jessse: echo "pardon" > /etc/nojail
Aug 19 04:22:30 <rwhitby> then it will work again
Aug 19 04:22:42 <dtzWill> err hmm. works here, but I might be running a dev version. how doesn't it work? just won't start?
Aug 19 04:23:18 <jessse> I don't have 1.4.5 I have 1.4.2 cause I have att
Aug 19 04:23:19 <rwhitby> the other reason would be if you used an inferior installer which does not honour dependencies
Aug 19 04:23:35 <k-> ... hehe "TRIDENT"... hehe
Aug 19 04:23:55 <rwhitby> but if you used Preware it should work on 1.4.2
Aug 19 04:26:07 <jessse> well it takes a long ass time to download and the lie three quarters of the way through is says error couldn't complete download
Aug 19 04:27:53 <jessse> any ideas? I've tried downloading it twice
Aug 19 04:29:49 <jessse> and btw what does pardon ect/no jail mean?
Aug 19 04:31:13 <jessse> ??
Aug 19 04:33:22 <jessse> when will att get 1.4.5 anyway?
Aug 19 04:35:23 <jessse> and another thing...why can't I install any themes from preware or my comp?
Aug 19 04:35:49 <azakus> jessse: att and verizon already have it, their call when they release it
Aug 19 04:37:46 <jessse> anyone know why themes arnt working?
Aug 19 04:37:52 <jessse> thnks btw azakus
Aug 19 04:37:57 <jessse> I have lost of qs lol
Aug 19 04:55:39 <rwhitby> so jessse reports "quake app isn't working" and then only later says "oh, it fails three quarters of the way through the download"
Aug 19 04:55:54 <halfhalo> yup
Aug 19 04:56:31 <rwhitby> and finishes with a "lol" before leaving
Aug 19 05:16:08 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 19 06:28:00 <swisstomcat> morning
Aug 19 07:29:43 <noaXess> good morning all..
Aug 19 07:29:56 <noaXess> someone here from germany.. or switzerland..
Aug 19 07:30:20 <ka6sox-away> probably...wait for it :D
Aug 19 07:31:01 <noaXess> ka6sox-away: so.. your german?
Aug 19 07:32:05 <ka6sox-away> no, I live on the pacific plate....
Aug 19 07:32:41 <ka6sox-away> but I do know folks who are in .de and .ch who inhabit this channel.
Aug 19 07:33:55 <noaXess> ka6sox-away: and we need more people from .ch and .de... cause.. as i know swisstomcat and me are the only one here in this channel.. and swisstomcat is more available then me, cause i'm in another big project.. and in the moment there is no time for webos developing..
Aug 19 07:34:55 <ka6sox-away> noaXess, I hear ya...I'm so busy with other things I can't even play with my Pixi.
Aug 19 07:35:53 <ka6sox-away> I saw swisstomcat bout an hour ago.
Aug 19 07:36:12 <swisstomcat> i'm from switzerland, noaXess ;)
Aug 19 07:36:17 <noaXess> talkin with him about FrOSCamp here in switzerland
Aug 19 07:36:24 <noaXess> swisstomcat: grrr..
Aug 19 07:36:25 <noaXess> ;)
Aug 19 07:36:49 <noaXess> ka6sox-away: do you plan to visit switzerland in september??
Aug 19 07:37:19 <bhuey> folks
Aug 19 07:39:06 <ka6sox-away> noaXess, maybe in June
Aug 19 07:39:11 <ka6sox-away> (or May)
Aug 19 07:39:15 <swisstomcat> next year
Aug 19 07:39:43 <ka6sox-away> right...next year
Aug 19 07:40:39 <noaXess> ka6sox-away: ok.. that looks fine..
Aug 19 10:32:24 <swisstomcat> rehi
Aug 19 11:14:49 <en0x> hello
Aug 19 11:28:11 <swisstomcat> ello
Aug 19 11:29:10 <NachoB> Anybody know why this continually pops up in the log?
Aug 19 11:29:13 <NachoB> 2010-08-19T11:15:09.129394Z [7837] palm-webos-device user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: com.palm.app.clock: Error: launching for update, palmInitFramework347:2528
Aug 19 11:38:35 <jhojho> bad code
Aug 19 11:38:47 <jhojho> tell palm.
Aug 19 12:47:05 <en0x> jhojho: palm don't care :P
Aug 19 13:58:27 <NachoB> I just found that out. Tried to get help thru Palm Support chat and they didn't even know about ares.palm.com/AresLog. I was then pointed to the Palm Developer site for help.
Aug 19 17:42:14 <ew> hi everybody, i've got a problem with my pre. when somebody is calling, i can't hear him. when i turn my pre loud i hear him. so theres a problem with the speaker!? anybody got the same problem?
Aug 19 18:08:07 <Mercury_> ew: This may be an issue called 'deafness', you may need to visit a different sort of technician to address this issue. :)
Aug 19 18:08:39 <swisstomcat> rehi
Aug 19 18:36:42 <ew> thank you mercury, actually i found a lot with the same issue in forums. im trying their solutions
Aug 19 19:10:58 <ew> if somebody is interested: i just pulled out and pushed in the headset a few times and it works, lets see how long :D
Aug 19 19:53:09 <tpalm> hello?
Aug 19 19:53:33 <tpalm> does anyone know how to put my pre in "developer mode"?
Aug 19 19:56:21 <dtzWill> tpalm: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Getting_started#Enabling_Developer_Mode
Aug 19 19:59:08 <tpalm> thx!
Aug 19 21:02:11 <tpalm> do u have to install the web OS doctor jar to use the quick install method for preware?
Aug 19 21:05:19 <tpalm> do u have to install the web OS doctor jar to use the quick install method for preware?
Aug 19 21:06:01 <rwhitby> tpalm: http://install.preware.org
Aug 19 21:06:29 <uNiXpSyChO> "....or did you use an inferior package installer tool?"
Aug 19 21:06:30 <tpalm> thx
Aug 19 21:06:56 <tpalm> i just opened developer mode & i updated my java
Aug 19 21:07:34 <tpalm> i have one page that says i have @ run the docotor thing & another that says i just have 2 run the quick install
Aug 19 21:08:06 <tpalm> i just want to run the preware so i can dl a nes em. thats it
Aug 19 21:26:50 <eWizardII_dev> Quick question for those who have tried to submit via PDK how much time does it take Palm to approve the app?
Aug 19 22:57:04 <jessse13> is tthe themer not working for everybody else too?
Aug 19 22:57:31 <oilsworkn> themer?
Aug 19 22:59:56 <jesse_> is the themer working for you guys?
Aug 19 23:09:24 <en0x> Now that Sprint has released Palm® webOS™ 1.4.5 (and more carriers are coming soon),
Aug 19 23:09:32 <en0x> breath taking
Aug 19 23:12:13 <Error454> I'm trying to build pre-ware following the instructions on WebOS Wiki.  When I 'make stage' I'm erroring out trying to git clone git://git.opentts.org/dotconf.git src.  I can browse to the git repository and see it just fine via http but trying to check out I get connection refused.
Aug 19 23:12:52 <Error454> Has anyone else had issues with this repository?
Aug 19 23:13:02 <oilsworkn> pre-ware?
Aug 19 23:13:10 <oilsworkn> L)
Aug 19 23:13:12 <oilsworkn> :)*
Aug 19 23:13:48 <oilsworkn> though, im no help with that sort of stuff
Aug 19 23:13:52 <en0x> [;
Aug 19 23:13:56 <oilsworkn> rwhitby: still around? ^
Aug 19 23:14:04 <Error454> Well, actually I guess I'm building the WIDK
Aug 19 23:22:30 <dtzWill> Error454: i get the same--looks like they've denied git access, or are having server troubles.
Aug 19 23:22:58 <Error454> dtzWill: Do they allow http check-out?
Aug 19 23:24:17 <dtzWill> Error454: don't think so.
Aug 19 23:24:45 <halfhalo> clone it over http?
Aug 19 23:25:25 <dtzWill> we shouldn't be getting it via git anyway i don't think.
Aug 19 23:25:33 <dtzWill> just grab http://files.opentts.org/dotconf/dotconf-1.3.tar.gz . I'll update it in a bit.
Aug 19 23:25:47 <Error454> will do, thanks
Aug 19 23:25:49 <halfhalo> lol
Aug 19 23:26:41 <halfhalo> git is fun...
Aug 19 23:27:21 <en0x> svn is fun!
Aug 19 23:28:32 <dr_jkl> svn is natural!
Aug 19 23:29:28 <dtzWill> Error454: git pull the widk and try now.
Aug 19 23:31:34 <Error454> ok, I'm rebuilding the toolchain
Aug 20 01:03:28 <Mousey> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/hp-confirms-webos-tablet-for-early-2011/
Aug 20 01:07:15 <Kyusaku> too bad no handset news
Aug 20 01:16:06 <n8chavez> Hello.
Aug 20 01:16:15 <n8chavez> The other day my phone crashed.
Aug 20 01:16:42 <n8chavez> I restarted it, but then I had to re-initiate it
Aug 20 01:16:59 <n8chavez> and sign in to my accounts
Aug 20 01:17:10 <n8chavez> I then discovered all my apps were gone
Aug 20 01:17:26 <n8chavez> is there anything I can do to get them back?
Aug 20 01:18:11 <Kyusaku> It should have automatically downloaded any Palm Catalog apps
Aug 20 01:18:53 <n8chavez> how because when I click on the shopping bag it says there's nothing installed
Aug 20 01:21:28 <n8chavez> any ideas?
Aug 20 01:25:31 <rwhitby> nope, that's one for Palm Support I think
Aug 20 02:03:36 <Error454> dtzWill: pulled the new widk and everything is groovy
Aug 20 02:06:01 <hborders> Is the pre big-endian or little-endian?  Where do I look to find that out?
Aug 20 02:06:19 <dtzWill> Error454: great
Aug 20 02:12:46 <rwhitby> hborders: armel
Aug 20 02:13:15 <hborders> rwhitby: armel?
Aug 20 02:13:19 <rwhitby> hborders: look in /usr/lib/ipkg/info and find the .control file for the toolchain
Aug 20 02:13:31 <rwhitby> little endian arm, eabi
Aug 20 02:13:43 <hborders> rwhitby: on the device?
Aug 20 02:13:48 <rwhitby> yes
Aug 20 02:14:20 <hborders> rwhitby: thanks! do you have any reading suggestions about the history of this stuff?
Aug 20 02:14:36 <hborders> rwhitby: I'm obviously still a noob, so I'm trying to learn
Aug 20 02:15:58 <rwhitby> hborders: openembedded, debian, armel, eabi should be a good set of search terms
Aug 20 02:16:46 <hborders> rwhitby: thanks again!
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