**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 20 02:59:56 2010 Aug 20 03:28:02 i'm looking at the control file, and I don't see anything that refers to endianness Aug 20 03:29:23 I hate little endians Aug 20 03:31:21 hborders: true. "uname -m" will also tell you Aug 20 03:32:04 rwhitby:armv7l. I suppose the little "L" at the end denotes little-endian Aug 20 03:32:09 yep Aug 20 03:37:56 endian little grrr Aug 20 05:00:50 hey, i just screwed my /etc/profile. is there anyway i can become root to temporarily displace the file... or do i have to doctor my device? Aug 20 05:03:02 moin Aug 20 05:03:06 rwhitby: Ping Aug 20 05:04:24 hape: syn|ack Aug 20 05:04:35 k-: use novaterm Aug 20 05:04:42 or is there any other way to become root to my predevice without a password set Aug 20 05:05:08 Hi, I chatted with noradtux yesterday. we both have a good filing that we could put the current Navit version into the normal feeds. What do you think? Aug 20 05:05:10 all currently-supported methods to access a webOS device access it as root. which method are you using which does not? Aug 20 05:05:14 k-: ^^ Aug 20 05:05:19 --- my /etc/profile is borked so it immidately exits... so i'm unable to access.. stupid me accidentally wrote exit 0 at the end of the script but now it exits the shell Aug 20 05:05:43 k-: which method of access are you using Aug 20 05:05:50 hape: yes, I think so. Aug 20 05:05:58 ssh, novaterm, etc... Aug 20 05:06:36 and there's some error in the /etc/opt/sudoers file, so i'm unable to access that way either Aug 20 05:06:45 k-: use novacom put to overwrite /etc/profile Aug 20 05:06:59 nobody uses sudo anymore anyway Aug 20 05:07:05 rwhitby, is there documentation of this manual? Aug 20 05:07:20 of this method? Aug 20 05:07:31 yes, the official palm developer documentation for novacom Aug 20 05:08:41 rwhitby: do you have an example? Aug 20 05:08:55 rwhitby: Do you will do it or do we have to do something to push it. Aug 20 05:09:01 k-: what documentation have you read about it so far? Aug 20 05:09:23 having trouble over here =X Aug 20 05:09:36 hape: so locale, speechd and navit/ Aug 20 05:10:42 hey rwhitby, thanks ... Aug 20 05:10:52 rwhitby: yes Aug 20 05:13:54 hape: done - should be picked up on next autobuilder run Aug 20 05:14:09 ok, thanks Aug 20 05:14:38 will a new tag now push the real or the testing version? Aug 20 05:17:00 so it would be 'novaterm -w 'bash -c 'rm /etc/profile' ' Aug 20 05:18:39 folks Aug 20 05:19:06 hrm.. cya guys.. Aug 20 05:22:03 hape: the packages have moved into ./apps and ./linux instead of ./testing Aug 20 05:22:53 hape: if you want new testing packages, then copy the Makefile into a new ./testing/navit/Makefile and it will be released to the testing feed. then copy again to ./apps/navit/Makefile when you want to release it to public fee Aug 20 05:22:55 d Aug 20 05:42:36 ok, thanks Aug 20 06:21:47 morning Aug 20 16:34:53 Got to play with a w7 phone yesterday. UI is a bit weird at first but it was very smooth / usable Aug 20 20:13:20 greetings, i noticed that there is a alias.url to the saverestore directory in the optware lighttpd.conf file. is it possible to make an alias to the /media/internal/downloads folder? Aug 20 20:28:30 dunno Aug 20 20:32:31 hi, I got a question about Preware being the default IPK handler, is there any way to disable that, or at least when I try to download and IPK from online it saves it to the USB drive first? Aug 20 20:37:03 Bebz: you could use Download Manager from the App Catalog Aug 20 20:38:20 Hi Sethron, I think I used that before but it didn't work with Wordpress, my site is all in wordpress Aug 20 20:40:29 Bebz: did you use it to get the full path to the file you want to download into the /media/internal/downloads folder? I've used it with project gutenberg. Aug 20 20:41:57 I'll try it again now, but I think wordpress redirects and download manager doesn't redirect, so I ended up getting an index.php page. I'm trying again now Aug 20 20:42:35 Bebz: yes, you'll need the full path to the file on the web server. Aug 20 20:43:23 any ideas how to get that from the browser? Aug 20 20:47:00 Bebz: sorry,no. what is the URL? Aug 20 20:47:45 it won work for you because the site is password protected, it's for bug testing Aug 20 20:48:58 Bebz: then, sorry. you'll have to find where the file is located. Aug 20 20:49:20 thanks Aug 20 22:18:03 wow it's so weird to see SDL stuff in #webos now Aug 20 22:18:49 no longer deep unsupported magic, now mainstream webos dev fare Aug 20 22:44:48 hi buddys Aug 20 22:46:01 Can someone give me the link to the old version of wIRC? Aug 20 22:46:17 and old version of wIRCd Aug 20 22:47:40 you don't want wIRCd Aug 20 22:47:47 ipkg.preware.org/feeds Aug 20 22:48:01 look for version 1.2.4 Aug 20 22:48:15 ty :) Aug 20 22:48:29 awww, that link is broken it says. :( Aug 20 22:48:58 put a / at the end Aug 20 22:49:11 oh ok. Aug 20 22:49:16 how do I find 1.2.4 in this mess? Aug 20 22:49:28 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/org.webosinternals.wirc_0.2.4_arm.ipk is what you want Aug 20 22:49:36 install that using Preware Aug 20 22:53:02 is there a good place on webos-internals wiki to get started on writing a patch for the browser? Aug 20 22:54:36 thank you man. :) Aug 20 23:03:43 it's not found on preware, dude. rwhitby Aug 20 23:07:24 why can't I connect to irc.webchat.org? Aug 20 23:08:51 why can't I connect to irc.webchat.org? Aug 20 23:14:32 Pikula: I gave you the URL to use in the Install Package menu item in Preware Aug 20 23:14:36 fwiw, /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/mobi.optware.lighttpd/opt/etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf alias.url = ( "/saverestore/" => "/media/internal/saverestore/", "/downloads/" => "/media/internal/downloads/" ) Aug 20 23:14:36 dude Aug 20 23:16:07 sethron: added and pushed Aug 20 23:16:29 nono, it's working. I just can't connect to irc.webchat.org :( that server Aug 20 23:16:58 it's not an irc server? Aug 20 23:17:11 Pikula: you should discuss that in #wirc then ... Aug 20 23:17:36 oh ok, thanks. :) Aug 20 23:17:43 rwhitby: tyvm Aug 20 23:20:20 is there a better irc channel to ask about crafting patches for the webos browser? I don't want to bark up the wrong tree. Aug 20 23:29:47 rwhitby: did you add it to the lighttpd package or to its wiki page? Aug 20 23:41:00 what is COS PI? Aug 20 23:41:21 i see it in Preware in the emulator, not yet on my phone :) Aug 20 23:41:46 Pikula: I was told there would be no math today :) Aug 20 23:42:25 lol it's -1 Aug 20 23:56:58 sethron: I added it to the package Aug 20 23:59:24 rwhitby: yes, my emulator is updated, not yet on me Pre. nifty! Aug 21 00:01:47 anybody want to test disabling of the fat finger filter? Aug 21 00:18:58 there is a fat finger filter? Aug 21 00:19:00 w00t w00t?! Aug 21 00:22:28 there's been a fat finger filter Aug 21 00:22:46 I'm testing a kernel that allows you to disable it Aug 21 00:22:52 for faster typing Aug 21 00:23:03 oh ok Aug 21 00:23:14 i dont wanna change my kernel by hand so i will pass Aug 21 00:23:21 memboot easy as pie Aug 21 00:23:40 dont' have to change your Flash at all Aug 21 00:53:34 egaudet: this filter is in the kernel? Aug 21 00:53:56 destinal, yeah in the keypad driver Aug 21 00:54:32 I suppose since the kernel is the only one that "knows" what keys are adjacent on the hardware Aug 21 01:01:10 Hi Aug 21 01:04:44 egaudet: ka6sox-away said he wanted to increase the -j for make Aug 21 01:05:07 maybe j2 or j3 Aug 21 01:05:22 ? Aug 21 01:05:37 I'm lookin for info on how to set wirc to stop wirc from makin clones if I lose connection Aug 21 01:07:12 PTPLauthor: using an IRC bouncer like "bip" on another server that is always connected to the internet is the only solution to that problem Aug 21 01:07:56 You lost me whitby I'm new to irc *blushes* Aug 21 01:08:58 the only other way is to wait five minutes or so for the old connection to time out on the IRC server Aug 21 01:09:20 the actual timeout depends on the server you are connecting to, not the wIRC client Aug 21 01:10:29 It doesn't time out for hours it seems Aug 21 01:10:33 Heh Aug 21 01:11:11 I'll wait, if it's still on when I go to bed, I'll reboot, that always works Aug 21 01:26:51 Just something that may be of interest: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Fix_PDK_Mounts Aug 21 01:28:35 hm Aug 21 01:31:06 rwhitby, does the auotbuilder build any SDL apps? Aug 21 01:37:58 egaudet: not at the moment, but it could Aug 21 02:13:39 whats good **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 21 02:59:57 2010