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Aug 28 03:00:04 <SineOt> PDK apps if they're a hybrid Mojo/PDK app will just silently crash
Aug 28 03:00:54 <oil> hm?
Aug 28 03:01:03 <SineOt> hey oil
Aug 28 03:02:04 <SineOt> rwhitby: I'll doctor it in a bit and try again, see if it turns out differently
Aug 28 03:02:22 <rwhitby> SineOt: ok, thanks.
Aug 28 03:04:50 <SineOt> maybe it'll help with my tethering oddities too, lol
Aug 28 03:15:50 <SineOt> en0x: ping
Aug 28 03:35:57 <SineOt> Anyone know if Mobile Hotspot allows BT tethering as well as Wifi? :x
Aug 28 03:44:37 <Robi_> no
Aug 28 03:44:41 <Robi_> only wifi
Aug 28 03:44:57 <Robi_> other apps did usb / bt
Aug 28 03:46:22 <SineOt> I just can't figure out what trips the "Auth error" message on my Pixi, even though internet sharing over BT works
Aug 28 04:22:28 <SineOt> rwhitby: you still there? it's doctoring right now, I'll check Preware 1.2.9 in a bit
Aug 28 04:23:01 <SineOt> do you have a link to 1.2.9's .ipk that I can install through WebOS Quick Install? dunno where it's actually hosted :s
Aug 28 04:35:15 <rwhitby> SineOt: ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/
Aug 28 04:35:30 <oil> quick install has a feed browser :/
Aug 28 04:35:48 <halfhalo> ewww
Aug 28 04:35:49 <halfhalo> qi
Aug 28 04:36:02 <rwhitby> oil: it often doesn't work though ;)
Aug 28 04:37:00 <SineOt> but it doesn't list the testing feeds
Aug 28 04:37:05 <SineOt> I don't think
Aug 28 04:37:32 <rwhitby> SineOt: but you want to install the public version first, and then upgrade
Aug 28 04:37:54 <SineOt> oh! okay, my mistake then
Aug 28 04:42:57 <Robi_> rwhitby: hows the success rate so far?
Aug 28 04:43:28 <rwhitby> Robi_: 100% on the three devices I've tested it on
Aug 28 04:43:58 <Robi_> we know that. how about others
Aug 28 04:45:40 <SineOt> ugh, I forgot about how Synergy links for contacts aren't stored in the Palm Profile :/
Aug 28 04:53:05 * oil doesn't link any contacts
Aug 28 04:53:09 <oil> they're all from a single source
Aug 28 04:53:30 <SineOt> I have to link stuff like AIM accounts :/
Aug 28 04:53:45 <SineOt> it'll figure out like half of them, no idea how, but leave the other half unlinked
Aug 28 05:32:34 <SineOt> okay, took long enough but I finally have Preware 1.3 installed, rwhitby
Aug 28 05:33:34 <SineOt> huh, yeah it seems to work now after doctoring
Aug 28 05:33:40 <SineOt> no idea why it wouldn't before
Aug 28 05:40:16 <Robi_> fooba-er-fixed
Aug 28 05:42:53 <SineOt> you know thinking about it I'm going to bet that it was because I was using the old leaked Sprint 1.4.5 build
Aug 28 05:43:00 <SineOt> and that there was just something funky with it
Aug 28 05:55:06 <PuffTheMagic> SineOt, yes i have notice that
Aug 28 05:55:09 <PuffTheMagic> wow
Aug 28 05:55:20 <SineOt> noticed what
Aug 28 05:55:28 <PuffTheMagic> i am so drunik right now, and tying  so laborious
Aug 28 05:55:40 <SineOt> haha
Aug 28 05:55:57 <SineOt> what are we noticing? the auth error even if tethering is working fine?
Aug 28 05:56:19 <PuffTheMagic> sprint dont want u to tether
Aug 28 05:56:32 <PuffTheMagic> so there is confilcting software
Aug 28 05:56:50 <PuffTheMagic> and freethether wins most of the time
Aug 28 05:56:52 <SineOt> isn't the point of the IPtable masquerade stuff to make all the data appear as if it's originating from the phone though?
Aug 28 05:56:59 <SineOt> oh
Aug 28 05:56:59 <PuffTheMagic> i think the NAT shit is broke
Aug 28 05:57:05 <SineOt> so you're saying that like
Aug 28 05:57:13 <SineOt> just connecting a computer to bluetooth will trip the auth error?
Aug 28 05:57:19 <SineOt> regardless of anything else going on?
Aug 28 05:57:24 <PuffTheMagic> yeah'
Aug 28 05:57:37 <SineOt> that makes sense
Aug 28 05:57:39 <PuffTheMagic> that is expectected i belive
Aug 28 05:58:01 <PuffTheMagic> more people have used mobile hotspot w/ freetherther than i have
Aug 28 05:58:32 <SineOt> yeah, I can't use mobile hotspot since what I need is BT and apparently MHS can't do that
Aug 28 05:58:43 <SineOt> so I've been using Freetether/freetetherd
Aug 28 10:40:05 <ShadeS> everyone sleepin?
Aug 28 10:51:55 <ShadeS> someone posted an .exe but my box crashed and I lost the url
Aug 28 16:05:49 <cajun> I have a questions regarding the Palm-catalog feed in Preware.
Aug 28 16:06:28 <cajun> It seems to REALLY slow down loading of Preware, even after the feeds have all been updated. I have them set to update only once daily.
Aug 28 18:31:53 <twbbas> Heh, I just got back from my local sprint store and the Pixi on display had Preware installed! Lol
Aug 28 18:32:06 <twbbas> You can only install that from a computer, right?
Aug 28 18:49:32 <PuffTheMagic> haha
Aug 28 18:49:37 <PuffTheMagic> thats awesome
Aug 28 18:57:22 <Darkmagister> i have a problem with the update or remove of Multi Mod patch ... http://pastebin.com/GWHVczGh
Aug 28 19:19:46 <noradtux_> ~seen rwhitby
Aug 28 19:20:00 <infobot> rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals #oe #meego #nslu2-linux, last said: 'Robi_: 100% on the three devices I've tested it on'.
Aug 28 19:20:33 <noradtux> rwhitby: ping
Aug 28 20:01:09 <SineOt> ugh, this is going to be a nightmare to figure out
Aug 28 20:01:33 <SineOt> After doctoring and restoring with Save/Restore, sconix's System Menu Mods is completely wonky :C
Aug 28 20:02:19 <SineOt> Anyone have any ideas where to start looking? Have a feeling it's something to do with the Launcher prefs that Save/Restore put in place
Aug 28 20:41:17 <SineOt> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/469264/Unknown_2010-28-08_133630.png :'(
Aug 28 20:42:20 <Yoppo> SineOt: do you use some locale?
Aug 28 20:42:35 <Yoppo> I mean do you have some other language set than english?
Aug 28 20:42:37 <SineOt> Just stock english.
Aug 28 20:43:18 <Yoppo> Ah its the date as carrier string that does that
Aug 28 20:43:48 <SineOt> Really? How weird. It worked fine before :o
Aug 28 20:50:19 <SineOt> Mmm, nope. Still screwed up
Aug 28 20:53:24 <Yoppo> in which way
Aug 28 20:54:02 <SineOt> Even if I change what is displayed in the edit menu, the menu itself still only displays what I showed in the screen shot above
Aug 28 20:54:47 <SineOt> So I can't edit it
Aug 28 20:55:10 <SineOt> I think it has something to do with using Save/Restore to restore my launcher after I doctored it last night to test the Preware alphas
Aug 28 20:56:29 <SineOt> Like right now I have it said to hide everything, but instead it's showing everything :/
Aug 28 20:57:26 <SineOt> There we go D:
Aug 28 20:57:36 <SineOt> I restored again from Save/Restore and it seems to have fixed itself
Aug 28 22:14:10 <Robi_> how is angry birds pdk ?
Aug 28 22:16:57 <rwhitby> Robi_: I'm on level 6-1 ;)
Aug 28 22:17:21 <rwhitby> actually, make that 5-10
Aug 28 22:24:46 <Robi_> rwhitby: paid version levels are diff from lite version levels
Aug 28 22:25:12 <Robi_> i did manage 2 more 3star runs last night, have 3 left
Aug 28 22:26:12 <Robi_> so how isit pdk vs sdk
Aug 28 23:33:12 <Robi_> the advanced launcher prefs is neat
Aug 28 23:38:35 <SineOt> yeah it is
Aug 28 23:38:50 <SineOt> I just wish I could use the Glass Effect patch with it
Aug 28 23:39:01 <sconix> you can
Aug 28 23:39:06 <sconix> it installs just fine when I tried
Aug 28 23:39:39 <SineOt> hmm!
Aug 28 23:41:27 <SineOt> well I'll be
Aug 28 23:41:48 <SineOt> I saw it didn't work and uninstalled the patch, never thought to reinstall it (which makes it work)
Aug 28 23:43:27 <sconix> there was a version for short period time that did not work with it :)
Aug 28 23:43:39 <SineOt> let me guess: .47? XD
Aug 28 23:43:44 <sconix> yep...
Aug 28 23:43:55 <SineOt> that's probably what it was then
Aug 28 23:44:08 <SineOt> you write some awesome patches, sconix <3
Aug 28 23:44:22 <sconix> well I try :)
Aug 28 23:44:56 <lion_> i don't have preware in my list to install in webosdoctor. What should i do?
Aug 28 23:45:57 <SineOt> you mean WebOS Quick Install?
Aug 28 23:49:22 <SineOt> sconix: I'll happily run any insane hacky bits of code you can come up with if it means ModeSwitcher will run in the background on the Pixi btw ;P
Aug 28 23:50:20 <sconix> well I am kinda hoping that upcoming WebOS versions make it possible, and so far as I know there is no hack that could do that now
Aug 28 23:51:13 <SineOt> yeah
Aug 28 23:51:28 <SineOt> It's probably something tied into the whole Hybrid PDK app thingy that the Pixi has issue with right now
Aug 29 00:06:13 <SineOt> thanks for humoring me either way sconix ;p
Aug 29 00:09:16 <sconix> your welcome :)
Aug 29 00:25:31 <un_designer> I can't believe I'm in an IRC channel on my phone, in 2010. wIRC is awesome.
Aug 29 00:32:40 <roxfan> an easily impressed guy eh
Aug 29 00:34:21 <Robi_> sconix: surprised how well the spacing/icon size bit works instead of 4x4 or 5x5 designation
Aug 29 00:35:39 <sconix> so am I :)
Aug 29 00:36:05 <Robi_> hehe
Aug 29 00:36:41 <Robi_> it was hard to determine what all 'launcher' patches I had though other than the 5x5v1
Aug 29 00:37:03 <Robi_> i think preware may need another level of sorting for patches like apps
Aug 29 00:41:13 <lolo> c:\pre
Aug 29 00:44:58 <lolo> c:\pithon26
Aug 29 00:45:46 <lolo> c:\python
Aug 29 00:46:06 <uNiXpSyChO> format c: /q
Aug 29 00:47:13 <lolo> c: /q
Aug 29 00:47:53 <lolo> PSYCHOLOL
Aug 29 01:07:40 <Jack87> Hello WebOS world
Aug 29 01:10:24 <Jack87> Everyone seems so shy
Aug 29 01:10:25 <Jack87> did someone die?
Aug 29 01:11:15 <SineOt> nu, we're mostly just busy ;P
Aug 29 01:16:49 <Jack87> I recived a letter from some attorneys today about the hp palm merger and class action law suit thats in the works but i dont understand any of it
Aug 29 01:20:54 <SineOt> huh
Aug 29 01:33:42 <Jack87> Ya weird.. I wish i understood that law language
Aug 29 01:48:04 <rwhitby> hey Jack87, what's new
Aug 29 01:49:05 <Jack87> Hi Rod. Same old for me just peeking my head in when i have a moment. how have you been doing?
Aug 29 01:53:45 <rwhitby> we're good.  still the same old people getting Canuck Software and WebOS Internals confused.
Aug 29 01:58:26 <SineOt> hm, sconix: any idea why it seems like Mode Switcher's dashboard sits weird in comparison to others?
Aug 29 02:00:31 <SineOt> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/469264/modeswitcher_2010-28-08_185641.png < example, looks like it sits 3 or 4 pixels higher
Aug 29 02:01:27 <xbones21x> Is there a way to get govnah to work while running VBA?
Aug 29 02:01:53 <xbones21x> it seems to load the uberkernel default everytime I run VBA
Aug 29 02:02:02 <SineOt> also, if anyone here has worked on the virtual keyboard at all: I'd love to have Pixi landscape support :< http://dl.dropbox.com/u/469264/us_2010-23-08_192808.png
Aug 29 02:07:48 <Jack87> rwhitby: haha always feels nice to be at home.
Aug 29 02:09:51 <egaudet> http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=patches/virtual-keyboard.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/webos-1.4.5
Aug 29 02:09:55 <egaudet> SineOt, see commit log
Aug 29 02:10:20 <SineOt> egaudet <3
Aug 29 02:30:23 <SineOt> egaudet: any idea on when that will work its way out to the testing feeds/public feeds?
Aug 29 02:35:30 <egaudet> Hopefully monday or tuesday, just gotta backport it to other webos versions and have a pixi owner or 2 test/verify
Aug 29 02:35:54 <SineOt> I'll happily test/verify
Aug 29 02:42:08 <sjsharksfan> anyone familiar with the latest VNCclient?
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