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Aug 30 03:08:33 <egaudet> KeyBoss 0.2.5 in testing feed
Aug 30 03:10:17 <rwhitby> tux2005: the palm tool does nothing that meta-doctor doesn't
Aug 30 03:11:03 <WindBell> Hello, is there anyway to build i686 part of WIDK ? I wanna test some code on Emulator but find i686 in WIDK is not made in default.
Aug 30 03:11:50 <rwhitby> WindBell: we don't have an automatic way to extract a rootfs from the SDK yet.  If you work that out, then we can do the rest.
Aug 30 03:12:37 <WindBell> Well, then how to extract it manually ?
Aug 30 04:06:55 <halfhalo> uggg
Aug 30 04:07:05 <halfhalo> No good cheap hotels for ces...
Aug 30 06:44:11 <un1corn> $
Aug 30 07:13:07 <swisstomcat> morning
Aug 30 08:04:06 <WindBell> rwhitby: I have successfully copy i686 rootfs from SDK by script
Aug 30 08:48:11 <WindBell>      
Aug 30 08:49:19 <rwhitby> WindBell: can you put it in a form like the armv7 and armv6 rootfs targets in the Makefiel?
Aug 30 08:59:42 <WindBell> rwhitby: Well I am not skilled at that. Please wait a minute I can give the two most important script command to you.
Aug 30 09:23:42 <WindBell> Sorry for my VirtualBox crashed 5 times that I cannot get the script out
Aug 30 09:29:30 <WindBell_> first  unzip .deb with 7z  : 7z x -otemp palm-sdk_1.4.5-svn307799-sdk1457-pho465_i386.deb
Aug 30 09:29:54 <WindBell_> 2 unzip vmdk
Aug 30 09:30:15 <WindBell_> 3. convert vmdk to raw by VirtualBox tool:  VBoxManage clonehd nova-cust-image-sdk1457.vmdk rootfs_i686.raw.img -format RAW
Aug 30 09:30:51 <WindBell_> 4. mount the raw file :  sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 rootfs_i686.raw.img.iso /media/i686/
Aug 30 09:31:18 <WindBell_> 5. copy files from /media/i686 to /rootfs/i686
Aug 30 09:32:37 <WindBell_> PS: "clonehd" command generate files under ~/.VirtualBox by default
Aug 30 13:41:17 <NachoB> sconix: you here?
Aug 30 13:41:24 <sconix> yep
Aug 30 13:41:59 <NachoB> I'm looking for your Add Media Volume to Sounds & Ringtones, is that available for 1.4.5?
Aug 30 13:42:37 <sconix> where did you here about that?
Aug 30 13:43:13 <sconix> I have an advanced system preferences patch coming that will add that and few other missing configuration options into system preference apps, but it is not ready yet
Aug 30 13:43:17 <NachoB> I suppose I found and installed it back when I had 1.4.1.1 and was still subscribed to your feeds.
Aug 30 13:43:25 <sconix> oh yess
Aug 30 13:43:40 <sconix> but I should get the patch done within week or two
Aug 30 13:43:50 <NachoB> Okay, I'll wait then. Thanks!
Aug 30 13:43:55 <sconix> your welcome
Aug 30 14:22:06 <CevingR> ipkg.preware.org down?
Aug 30 14:29:44 <swisstomcat> works here
Aug 30 15:08:23 <Chat6660>  hello
Aug 30 15:08:45 <Sleepracer>  test
Aug 30 15:09:19 <Sleepracer>  if you have a Blackberry check out www.nerdberry.net
Aug 30 15:12:59 <swisstomcat> :/
Aug 30 18:00:35 <cfp> hello everyone!
Aug 30 18:02:21 <cfp> I'm trying to establish an SSH connexion to my palm pre. I've assigned it a fixed ip from my wifi router config page, 192.168.0.100, and I've installed openssh. The key generation process went smoothly, but now I can't manage to connect to my pre :/ It doesn't even answer a ping...
Aug 30 18:02:25 <cfp> Any ideas?
Aug 30 18:03:51 <Mercury> cfp: Grab one of the 'what are my IP addresses' apps.
Aug 30 18:04:35 <cfp> Hmm, but I'd like to connect through my local network...
Aug 30 18:05:37 <cfp> Does openssh require a reboot to start?
Aug 30 18:05:44 <cfp> Might be this?
Aug 30 18:05:47 <cfp> Wait
Aug 30 18:12:37 <cfp> Okay, established connection \o/
Aug 30 18:16:42 <cfp> thanks =)
Aug 30 18:21:50 <egaudet> follow the instructions on the wiki
Aug 30 21:13:52 <Error454> How does the kernel source from git.webos-internals.org/kernels/palm.git differ from the palm provided tarball?
Aug 30 21:27:59 <rwhitby> Error454: we don't really use that rep
Aug 30 21:28:01 <rwhitby> repo
Aug 30 21:28:09 <rwhitby> Error454: look in kernels/patches.git for what we use
Aug 30 22:32:45 <Error454> If I am interested in doing a custom kernel compile, would you recommend using scratchbox2 as per the WIDK instructions or another toolchain?
Aug 30 22:34:42 <chrisA> Be a man, use codesourcery
Aug 30 22:38:44 <Error454> I am using codesourcery right now and my manliness is failing me
Aug 30 22:42:14 <chrisA> That's all I have to offer
Aug 30 22:42:43 <SineOt> Afternoon.
Aug 30 22:45:30 <SineOt> Odd question, I'm sure: Anyone use linux -and- bluetooth on their Pre/Pixi for anything? :B
Aug 30 22:50:08 <egaudet> I'd do it the same way it's done in build.git
Aug 30 22:58:46 <Error454> egaudet: Can you point me to any documentation?  I've built the toolchain provided by build.git and can compile the provided kernels but I don't understand the build process and can't find any of the actual kernel source when it finishes.
Aug 30 23:00:27 <egaudet> if you go into any kernel directory and type make, you should end up with kernel source in build/src-${ver}/linux-${kernelver}
Aug 30 23:00:49 <egaudet> the support/kernel.mk has the targets that do the downloading, patching and building of the kernel
Aug 30 23:01:52 <Error454> egaudet: I built palm-kernel-pre successfully, but the only directories produced under build are /arm and /headlessapp
Aug 30 23:02:13 <egaudet> that's not building a kernel, it's extracting the one from the doctor I believe
Aug 30 23:03:05 <Error454> I'll try another
Aug 30 23:03:55 <egaudet> also if you use build.git system to build any custom kernel (example uberkernel) it will tar a built palm patched 2.6.24 kernel tree in downloads/linux-2.6.24-${webos_ver}-{device}.tar.gz
Aug 30 23:07:07 <Error454> This is what I needed, thanks.
Aug 30 23:44:40 <Mousey> why is my phone suddenly "preparing vision services"?
Aug 30 23:44:46 <Mousey> that was weird
Aug 30 23:49:05 <Wolvenhaven> it's part of the new law they passed that all phones must use their cameras to spy on the owners
Aug 30 23:49:10 <Wolvenhaven> there is nothing to fear, do not be alarmed
Aug 30 23:50:35 <SineOt> good lord Linux Bluetooth is terrible. :( Anyone use their Pre/Pixi tethered via Bluetooth to Linux?
Aug 30 23:54:12 <egaudet> I did once a while ago
Aug 30 23:55:13 <SineOt> did you have any issues with it? I'm pretty much stumped now. Pixi will connect for about a second, then drops the connection :(
Aug 30 23:55:25 <SineOt> works fine under Win7 and OSX, so I'm not really sure where the problem is
Aug 31 00:19:02 <egaudet> I think I tethered my laptop with my Pre over bluetooth and it all just worked in ubuntu.  I forget though, there might have been one thing I had to do
Aug 31 00:19:35 <halfhalo> bah, linux.  nothing uses linux anymore :p
Aug 31 00:21:25 <SineOt> I'm giving it a shot on my netbook since it boots so much faster than Win7 :p
Aug 31 00:22:35 <cryptk|work> I always tether over the USB cable with my pre, tethering over wifi or BT drains the battery too fast
Aug 31 00:22:52 <cryptk|work> if I tether over the cable then not only to I get my internet access, but the battery gets a charge as well
Aug 31 00:37:39 <SineOt> yeah,
Aug 31 00:48:55 <dtzWill> bt was also really slow when i tried it, but maybe my netbook's bt is lame somehow
Aug 31 00:49:14 <dtzWill> so usb ftw, also charges my phone--often i'm okay with netbook dying long before i'm okay with phone dying on me
Aug 31 00:55:07 <SineOt> yeah, might as well try to find a short USB cable
Aug 31 00:55:15 <SineOt> BT would be cool but it's pretty annoying trying to get it working
Aug 31 01:04:05 <jhojho> warthog-107 is out... (picking up unixpsycho's latest override changes)...
Aug 31 01:08:43 * rwhitby bbl
Aug 31 01:22:31 <cryptk|work> SineOt: just use the cable from your charger/touchstone
Aug 31 01:22:50 <SineOt> it's a bit long when my phone is going to be like, 4 inches from the laptop
Aug 31 01:26:28 <SineOt> :p
Aug 31 01:41:05 <k-> could anyone paste their /etc/dnsmasq.palm.conf file?..
Aug 31 01:45:14 <k-> err: webos-doctor, sry guys
Aug 31 02:00:25 <xbones21x> I wasn't sure where I should direct this question, so I thought I'd start here...
Aug 31 02:01:08 <xbones21x> when tethering from the palm pre is it possible to then bridge the wireless connection to a lan line and give internet to another comupter?
Aug 31 02:01:36 <xbones21x> or some other device that supports lan, xbox etc...
Aug 31 02:04:37 <dtzWill> xbones21x: definitely is possible
Aug 31 02:04:55 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 31 02:05:41 <xbones21x> for some reason tho, I lose connection from my wireless connection to the point where I canr even fet on the internet from browser...
Aug 31 02:06:04 <xbones21x> I used windows bridge between my wireless and local connection
Aug 31 02:09:30 <Tibfib> rwhitby: so, what's the "send to preware" thing about? (link?)
Aug 31 02:09:52 <rwhitby> click on a button on a web site, have preware pop up with the package ready to install
Aug 31 02:10:04 <dtzWill> that's so awesome haha
Aug 31 02:10:12 <Tibfib> nice
Aug 31 02:10:31 <rwhitby> o, it's pretty neat
Aug 31 02:10:37 <rwhitby> (see what I did there?)
Aug 31 02:11:01 <Tibfib> rwhitby: I guess I'm going to continue and add in a way to send a file from your desktop to your mojo messenger account (.ipk's!)
Aug 31 02:11:38 <rwhitby> Tibfib: sure, then get mojo messenger to call Preware with the appropriate launch params and you're done
Aug 31 02:12:06 <Tibfib> I'll just have the .ipk launched, let the user's default ipk handler do it :)
Aug 31 02:13:48 <Tibfib> so how does the send to preware work? do you make an account, like neato!?
Aug 31 02:15:34 <Tibfib> (I think that's how neato! works, haven't downloaded it yet
Aug 31 02:17:29 <rwhitby> Tibfib: the "Send to Preware" links use neato
Aug 31 02:17:52 <Tibfib> hmmm, I should download neato to see how that'd work
Aug 31 02:18:15 <rwhitby> it uses pubsubhubbub
Aug 31 02:18:21 <SineOt> it's a pretty cool app
Aug 31 02:18:33 <SineOt> my only complaint is that the default scene asks you to generate a new URL/ID
Aug 31 02:18:57 <rwhitby> would be trivial for us to replicate with a free version, but gotta give the dude credit for thinking of how to do it
Aug 31 02:19:53 <xbones21x> dtzwill: sry I got a call di you respond to my questions?
Aug 31 02:20:43 <Tibfib> hah, that's awesome
Aug 31 02:21:11 <xbones21x> lol
Aug 31 02:21:22 <Tibfib> rwhitby: so how will preware work into it?
Aug 31 02:21:44 <Tibfib> just launch the file?
Aug 31 02:21:45 <xbones21x> so as I was sayin I'm having issue bridging my palm pre tethered connection to my xbox, any clue why this is happening?
Aug 31 02:21:45 <rwhitby> Tibfib: it will pass the URL of the ipk file to the default ipk handler, which will then pass it to Preware
Aug 31 02:22:11 <rwhitby> Tibfib: same as when you click on an .ipk browser link, or an attachment in an email
Aug 31 02:22:25 <Tibfib> rwhitby: oh okay, so no integration in preware
Aug 31 02:22:30 <Tibfib> per say
Aug 31 02:22:37 <Tibfib> just improvements to neato
Aug 31 02:22:49 <rwhitby> Tibfib: You need Preware 1.3.3
Aug 31 02:23:02 * Tibfib checks if he has it
Aug 31 02:23:03 <rwhitby> functionality is already there in the testing feed, will be released to public soon
Aug 31 02:23:22 <SineOt> xbones21x: it's probably an issue with your Windows PC and Internet Connection Sharing/bridging
Aug 31 02:23:23 <xbones21x> I'm using win7's bridge, wireless to lan
Aug 31 02:23:24 <xbones21x> dtzWill: you their?
Aug 31 02:23:33 <SineOt> what did you want it for? I hope not to play games on Live D:
Aug 31 02:23:36 <rwhitby> Preware has supported internally for some time, we've only just exposed it to users.
Aug 31 02:23:45 * rwhitby bbl
Aug 31 02:24:02 <Tibfib> rwhitby: cool, thanks for answering my qeustions
Aug 31 02:24:27 <xbones21x> well not live but xlink kia, my buddy was saying he played on a 40kbps and it was laggy but not that bad
Aug 31 02:24:56 <SineOt> yeah, but that's probably still on a connection that won't have 500ms+ latencies
Aug 31 02:25:09 <SineOt> try using ICS instead of bridging the connections
Aug 31 02:25:19 <xbones21x> no I get around 150
Aug 31 02:25:30 <xbones21x> ICS?
Aug 31 02:25:40 <SineOt> Internet Connection Sharing
Aug 31 02:25:57 <SineOt> should be buried in there depending on what version of Win7 you have
Aug 31 02:26:14 <xbones21x> I have xtreme
Aug 31 02:26:24 <SineOt> uh, there isn't a Win7 xtreme? :x
Aug 31 02:26:38 <xbones21x> yes the is mate
Aug 31 02:26:43 <SineOt> you mean ultimate?
Aug 31 02:26:47 <xbones21x> it's based off of ultimate
Aug 31 02:26:52 <SineOt> unless you're using some ~leets haxs versions~
Aug 31 02:26:57 <xbones21x> it's a user defined one
Aug 31 02:27:06 <xbones21x> basically
Aug 31 02:27:19 <xbones21x> added features,themes all kinds of stuff
Aug 31 02:27:25 <xbones21x> new context menu
Aug 31 02:27:31 <xbones21x> etc..
Aug 31 02:27:40 <SineOt> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=windows+7+internet+connection+sharing&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 knock yourself out
Aug 31 02:27:58 <xbones21x> alright thanks
Aug 31 02:28:16 <xbones21x> laters
Aug 31 02:48:33 <xbones21x> ok im back i tried to use the ICS and i dont think its the bridging or the ICS that giving me issues, its the way my computer is handling multiple connections. I have internet up to the point where i connect the the cable from the router to the pc, coming from the internet port and one of the local ports.
Aug 31 02:48:33 <xbones21x> SineOt: I don't know why it does that?
Aug 31 02:48:43 <xbones21x> SineOt: You their?
Aug 31 02:51:00 <xbones21x> SineOt: You their?
Aug 31 02:52:09 <xbones21x> Is anyone hear who can help me with my internet sharing issue. Using the internet from a tethered palm pre.
Aug 31 02:52:28 <xbones21x> Wireless to lan
Aug 31 02:52:34 <rwhitby> nope
Aug 31 02:52:42 <xbones21x> lol
Aug 31 02:52:50 <xbones21x> ty rwhitby
Aug 31 02:54:02 <xbones21x> know where i might go for help?
Aug 31 02:54:25 <rwhitby> nope
Aug 31 02:54:46 <xbones21x> you know any other words other than "nope" :)
Aug 31 02:54:52 <rwhitby> nope
Aug 31 02:55:03 <xbones21x> didnt think so lmao
Aug 31 02:55:48 <xbones21x> rwhitby: have you ever bridged?
Aug 31 02:55:59 <xbones21x> wait for it, wait for it
Aug 31 02:56:06 <rwhitby> I don't use windows
Aug 31 02:56:20 <xbones21x> oh, thought you were going to say "nope"
Aug 31 02:56:23 <rwhitby> nope
Aug 31 02:56:30 <xbones21x> linux, i presume?
Aug 31 02:56:44 <rwhitby> osx and linux mainly
Aug 31 02:57:07 <xbones21x> i have ubuntu if you know how to share or bridge with that
Aug 31 02:57:10 * rwhitby bbl
Aug 31 02:57:12 <xbones21x> ?
Aug 31 02:57:23 <xbones21x> ah...
Aug 31 02:57:26 <xbones21x> "nope"
Aug 31 02:57:31 <xbones21x> lol
Aug 31 02:58:36 <halfhalo> linux?  isn't that a virus?
Aug 31 02:59:07 <uNiXpSyChO> linux is for n00bs
Aug 31 02:59:31 <halfhalo> real men use binary
Aug 31 02:59:52 <xbones21x> lol
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