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Sep 05 05:12:28 <qacat> running Debian Lenny to install preware with Quick Install . Fails in that it never sees the hardware. Tried command line installation method, but i don't seem to have the /usr/bin/ipkg command. any suggestions?
Sep 05 05:13:18 <rwhitby> qacat: Install the Palm SDK, get the ipk from http://get.preware.org, install with palm-install.
Sep 05 05:26:24 <qacat> rwhitby, i already have it installed
Sep 05 05:26:59 <rwhitby> so you don't need any third-party tools to install Preware then.  Use the official Palm tools.
Sep 05 05:27:25 <qacat> the ipk is from the webos internals wiki page
Sep 05 05:29:25 <qacat> but i still don't have the /usr/bin/ipkg utility
Sep 05 05:29:36 <rwhitby> Install the Palm SDK, get the ipk from http://get.preware.org, install with palm-install.
Sep 05 05:30:42 <qacat> i see, palm-install will do the trick..
Sep 05 05:30:58 <rwhitby> yep, it's an ipk, follow the official palm installation instructions for ipkgs.
Sep 05 05:31:14 * rwhitby bbl
Sep 05 06:23:21 <j_> hello
Sep 05 06:34:45 <qacat> gah!
Sep 05 10:00:43 <swisstomcat> hey
Sep 05 13:45:34 <en0x> `9hmm
Sep 05 13:46:48 <en0x> http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Palm/WiFi-connection-problems-with-Palm-Pixi-on-home-AT-amp-T/m-p/1956930
Sep 05 13:46:54 <en0x> i have similar issue
Sep 05 16:57:14 <noaxess_kubuntu> hey all
Sep 05 16:57:49 <noaxess_kubuntu> is there any way/app to select multiple things like email, pictures, addresses...?
Sep 05 17:07:54 <swisstomcat> hey
Sep 05 17:12:39 <noaxess_kubuntu> servus..
Sep 05 17:13:08 <noaxess_kubuntu> do you know any about multi selecting?
Sep 05 17:14:53 <swisstomcat> with what?
Sep 05 17:15:40 <noaxess_kubuntu> multi selecting items... see above question
Sep 05 17:15:58 <swisstomcat> using the file-picker?
Sep 05 17:16:58 <noaxess_kubuntu> ??
Sep 05 17:17:02 <noaxess_kubuntu> app?
Sep 05 17:17:31 <noaxess_kubuntu> I want multi select eg pictures os messages, sms, contacts..
Sep 05 17:18:47 <swisstomcat> in your app you program or in general?
Sep 05 17:20:16 <swisstomcat> if it's the later .. for messaging there's an app (group txt i think)
Sep 05 17:20:40 <noaxess_kubuntu> general...
Sep 05 17:22:29 <Loudergood> like using ctrl+click on a pc?
Sep 05 17:25:34 <noaxess_kubuntu> yeag
Sep 05 17:26:26 <noaxess_kubuntu> Loudergood: yeah
Sep 05 17:26:52 <noaxess_kubuntu> swisstomcat: Group TXT is the app..
Sep 05 17:27:05 <swisstomcat> yeah
Sep 05 17:27:20 <swisstomcat> but there you create a group by selecting single contact and adding them to the list one by one :/
Sep 05 17:28:35 <noaxess_kubuntu> swisstomcat: yes and that's thr point.. why is no built in options for lists to select multiple.. and I mean that should be built into webos main
Sep 05 17:28:58 <swisstomcat> good question
Sep 05 17:30:13 <noaxess_kubuntu> if my main web project is finished I will spend more time for webos dev.. but @ the moment.. no time
Sep 05 17:31:26 <noaxess_kubuntu> by the way I run my pre on 1ghz/250mhz with lates uber kernel and governah.. no probs
Sep 05 17:31:48 <swisstomcat> nice
Sep 05 17:33:50 <noaxess_kubuntu> and there is alos no skype, icq, voip app....
Sep 05 17:34:09 <swisstomcat> there's no microphone API (yet)
Sep 05 17:34:32 <swisstomcat> should be in 2.0
Sep 05 17:34:34 <swisstomcat> webOS 2.0
Sep 05 17:34:35 <noaxess_kubuntu> have tested maemo 5 on  nokia n900.. really nice device and system.. all opensource
Sep 05 17:35:02 <swisstomcat> but a dead end
Sep 05 17:35:15 <swisstomcat> meegoo is the future for nokia
Sep 05 17:35:30 <noaxess_kubuntu> but no built in mms, only landscape mode.. but nice features like adding widgets on four desktops
Sep 05 19:46:01 <SimpsonTP> hi all
Sep 05 19:47:53 <SimpsonTP> is there any work beeing done on xforms implementation ?
Sep 05 20:21:15 <elyon> Is it possible to open a socket from webOS back to your computer?
Sep 05 20:21:27 <swisstomcat> depends
Sep 05 20:21:37 <swisstomcat> if you're using the SDK or PDK
Sep 05 20:21:39 <bpadalino> possible - yes .. not the easiest thing to do
Sep 05 20:21:40 <elyon> Not SDK ...
Sep 05 20:21:44 <elyon> PDK or command line
Sep 05 20:21:55 <swisstomcat> pdk should work
Sep 05 20:22:02 <elyon> I think the code I have already works for sockets, but I don't know what I would use for the host address
Sep 05 20:22:14 <elyon> I'm connected on Wi-Fi, but the host IP address doesn't seem to do it
Sep 05 20:22:31 <bpadalino> did you make sure the firewall rules were good to go ?
Sep 05 20:22:54 <elyon> Not sure. Networking's tough because there's so many variables
Sep 05 20:23:01 <elyon> Phone, router, desktop
Sep 05 20:23:34 <bpadalino> can you ping back and forth?
Sep 05 20:23:51 <elyon> Let me try again
Sep 05 20:27:09 <elyon> I wish files transferred to the phone faster :)
Sep 05 20:28:33 <bpadalino> you transferring lots of data ?
Sep 05 20:29:09 <elyon> Well, when I recompile my application
Sep 05 20:29:17 <elyon> I wish it copied a bit faster
Sep 05 20:33:51 <elyon> Here's the C code:
Sep 05 20:33:52 <elyon> http://pastie.org/1140244
Sep 05 20:34:16 <elyon> I've confirmed that the IP address is correctly resolved to an Int32 value
Sep 05 20:34:49 <elyon> But it's throwing a connection error. I can put it traces or something else to try and debug it
Sep 05 20:35:03 <bpadalino> gdb is helpful as well
Sep 05 20:35:22 <elyon> Assuming there was no firewall, and assuming the socket code worked, and I was connected on Wi-Fi ...
Sep 05 20:35:32 <elyon> Would I just connect, or would there be anything special that needs to happen?
Sep 05 20:41:19 <elyon> Hmm. I suppose I'll have to put a pin in this.
Sep 05 20:41:30 <elyon> FlashDevelop can channel messages sent over a socket into the trace window
Sep 05 20:41:52 <elyon> So it would be awesome to use a socket when outputting errors or trace messages, rather than using SSH to access a terminal on the phone
Sep 05 20:42:03 <elyon> But it would have to work :)
Sep 05 21:52:04 <qacat> i just wanted to follow-up: i was running novacmd already as a local user prior to trying to install preware (including when i was running quickinstall... i suspect this is why quick install never saw the device); when i restarted novacmd as root, it could see the physical device. I cannot say why i could never use palm-install to install the preware pkg, but after banging my head against the wall, i re-ran quick install and i c
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