**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 16 02:59:57 2010 Sep 16 03:01:17 internals, don't want to upset rod Sep 16 03:20:22 internalz is an app for browsing files Sep 16 03:37:39 I love internalZ Sep 16 03:37:52 * Gu1l7y_work looks around Sep 16 03:37:53 hehe Sep 16 03:40:32 * halfhalo rages against rails Sep 16 05:02:42 hey is anyone on? Sep 16 05:02:51 nope Sep 16 05:03:10 oh ok Sep 16 05:03:16 :p Sep 16 05:03:21 lol Sep 16 05:03:35 * basotl is not here... really. Sep 16 05:03:53 do you guys know when the pixi is going to get an oc'd kernel? or if it even can? Sep 16 05:08:50 I can haz u over cock kernels for much monies if u wantz. Sep 16 05:08:51 ? Sep 16 05:08:57 I honestly don't know. Sep 16 05:09:21 I'm just an enthusiast here. Sep 16 05:09:37 I heard on webos radio podcast that there prolly won't be any stable ones soon. Sep 16 05:09:46 m0ngr31: very unlikely Sep 16 05:09:55 * halfhalo_T400 blames oil Sep 16 05:10:12 the clocking and voltage control for the processor is controlled by the proprietary undocumented modem chipset Sep 16 05:10:38 we've tried what little configuration information we could find in the kernel source, and it didn't boot. Sep 16 05:10:38 bah Sep 16 05:10:48 So without it being documented, theres no way to know how to control it? right? Sep 16 05:11:55 correct Sep 16 05:12:03 dang. oh well, it's just for my wife's. my pre runs 1ghz pretty good. too bad it couldn't handle the 1.2 :\ Sep 16 05:12:27 and since it's controlled by the modem chip, which has proprietary firmware, there's no way to change it anywa Sep 16 05:13:06 * Gu1l7y_work envies Rods knowledge... Sep 16 05:15:48 so does anyone have any clue about how awesome the pre 2 is going to be? Sep 16 05:16:22 or webos 2? Sep 16 05:18:30 all the public knowledge seems to be reported on the usual sites Sep 16 05:19:18 dang. too bad palm doesnt give you guys a heads up so you can start hacking it before they release it Sep 16 05:19:31 perhaps they do Sep 16 05:19:58 ohohoh Sep 16 05:20:03 NDA would keep that secret of course. Sep 16 05:20:11 of course Sep 16 05:20:16 and PERHAPS I have a unicorn! Sep 16 05:20:26 NDAs have a habit of doing that, for most people. Sep 16 05:21:10 can you tell us how close your relationship to palm is? Sep 16 05:22:16 Thats an NDA all in its own. Sep 16 05:22:17 lol Sep 16 05:22:24 lol Sep 16 05:23:16 * halfhalo_T400 is wondering if anyone can tell me why this switch isn't working in c http://pastebin.com/mLhWGSYY Sep 16 05:25:04 it's not giving you an error is it? Sep 16 05:25:21 nope... just not running Sep 16 05:25:26 Stupid c... Sep 16 05:26:22 halfhalo_T400: scanf("%d", &option); Sep 16 05:26:22 &option Sep 16 05:26:33 really... Sep 16 05:26:46 it can't change the memory unless it knows where it is Sep 16 05:26:58 * halfhalo_T400 fails at c Sep 16 05:27:50 you shall find the way young grasshopper Sep 16 05:31:04 do I need to have the & if I use a varaible regularly? Like as a while(var) type situation? Sep 16 05:31:22 m0ngr31: I've never communicated with Ruby Sep 16 05:32:17 lol Sep 16 05:32:33 halfhalo_T400, no if you want what's in the memory that the variable references you use it directly Sep 16 05:34:29 &option is just passing scanf() a pointer to the memory that option references so that scanf can modify what is there and thus next time you reference option it contains new data Sep 16 05:37:51 so do you guys just hack around with webos or do you mess around with other stuff too? Sep 16 05:41:44 stupid ints vs floats.... Sep 16 05:46:03 m0ngr31: I run nslu2-linux.org, and am involved in openwrt.org, openmoko.org, freesmartphone.org and nas-centra.org Sep 16 05:46:42 i love openwrt, good work on that ;) Sep 16 05:52:26 i just switched to tomato so I guess I'm a traitor lol Sep 16 05:53:28 I ported openwrt to nslu2 Sep 16 05:53:42 and helped a bit on other ixp4xx ports, but nothing at all recently Sep 16 06:03:55 so without breaking your nda, can you say how much more bad a webos 2 is going to be over what we have? Sep 16 06:04:33 the magical gnomes in it are amazing and full of rainbows! Sep 16 06:07:15 LOL Sep 16 06:07:22 double rainbows? Sep 16 06:07:34 no, only single Sep 16 06:07:53 damn Sep 16 06:08:26 so does your name come from half life or halo? lol Sep 16 06:08:38 I honestly can't remember Sep 16 06:09:53 i'm the same way. i've probably had my tag for the last 10 years, and i'm only 23 lol Sep 16 06:15:32 on a scale of 1 to 10, how badly do you think this windows laptop needs to be reformatted Sep 16 06:15:46 11 Sep 16 06:15:52 wrong Sep 16 06:15:54 standard answer for any windows machine Sep 16 06:15:55 12 Sep 16 06:17:20 I mean... its still fast.. but I get annoyed by the little things Sep 16 06:18:22 I mean, i could go and fix everything pretty easily... but that takes time. While with reformatting, Its a few hours total. including downloading a win 7 iso Sep 16 06:18:34 just buy a mac Sep 16 06:18:44 or throw some linux mint on there Sep 16 06:18:51 well, more if I'm not using ie and the stupid technet download thingie Sep 16 06:18:55 I have a mac Sep 16 06:19:03 Both a mac mini and a mbp Sep 16 06:19:22 along with a windows desktop, windows laptop, windows gaming laptop, and linux laptop Sep 16 06:19:22 then why are you using windows? lol Sep 16 06:19:46 dang dude. computer much? Sep 16 06:20:41 Side affect of being a member of a notebook forum Sep 16 06:21:15 used to have more, but got rid of some Sep 16 06:22:36 although I am itching for a new laptop right now... Sep 16 06:23:36 * halfhalo_T400 has a problem Sep 16 06:23:50 i used to game like crazy so i had a ton of computers for lan parties and whatever, but i just do random php and web dev now :\ Sep 16 06:23:57 and got an xbox for gaming Sep 16 06:24:13 but my mbp can run half-life2 pretty decent Sep 16 06:25:21 Eh, I have both a ps3 and 360 but really don't use them. and I have a few other computers scattered around for family that I can use for games in a pinch. The weakest card is in my regular laptop which has both an intel x4500 and ati 3470HD, while my desktop has an ATI 5850 Sep 16 06:26:35 * halfhalo_T400 knows way to much about laptops for his own good Sep 16 06:26:47 lol Sep 16 06:29:10 * halfhalo_T400 is sleeptimenao Sep 16 06:35:25 morning Sep 16 10:28:37 swisstomcat: Middach :-) Sep 16 10:42:37 hi, i need to change the language of navit, the text and the speech, how i can do this ? Sep 16 10:46:14 i have read the navit.xml but inside it there is nothing about language and no input to speech dispacher Sep 16 10:52:12 ok the gui translation is in navit_gui_PreNav.xml Sep 16 10:52:31 now i need to find something for speech_dispacher Sep 16 11:03:39 mahlzeit, hape Sep 16 11:29:29 Darkmagister: There is nothing you need to translate Sep 16 11:29:41 Navit is multilanguge from the start Sep 16 11:30:00 What langugae you are using? Sep 16 11:30:32 I uses the same as the webos is set to, but we need to have it in the locale package Sep 16 11:36:57 hey guys Sep 16 11:37:19 would anyone be able to help me with a (hopefully basic) patching question? Sep 16 11:39:20 hi Sep 16 11:39:32 we hope that we can help Sep 16 11:40:17 so today I have a homebrew app that I'd like to convert to a patch. My app utilizes Palm's Messaging app, so those are the file(s) that would be patched Sep 16 11:40:38 here's the question: my app has probably a dozen files between the views and the controllers, Sep 16 11:41:13 how are patches distributed? Meaning, can I both add some code to an exisitng Palm file, as well as add my other files (views, controllers, etc) Sep 16 11:41:43 does that make sense? Sep 16 11:42:09 i think patches are distributed as diffs Sep 16 11:42:19 I understand the concept of patching, but the part I really don't get is the distribution Sep 16 11:43:21 oh, so does that mean that I can't ADD new files? So I'd be forced to stuff all my code into existing file(s) ? Sep 16 11:44:04 i'm not very informed about patches but i think you can add files too Sep 16 11:44:38 here's an example i found: http://webonastick.com/webos/patches/1.4.5/ Sep 16 11:44:42 ok, cool. Is there an FAQ for creating a patch anywhere? Sep 16 11:45:16 http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Sep 16 11:45:53 cool, thnx Sep 16 11:45:53 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/244773-webos-dev-newbie-how-write-patch.html Sep 16 11:46:01 excellent, that will help Sep 16 11:46:03 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/206807-official-patch-discussion.html Sep 16 11:46:30 the last links seems to be the "official" discussion Sep 16 11:46:51 great, that should give me enought to get going at least Sep 16 11:46:54 thnx again Sep 16 11:46:57 np Sep 16 11:51:27 eagle631: Them amin patch guy is dBsooner , and for app dirtibution to Preware rwhitby . Both are here mostly in about 5-6 Hours from now. That should be therer morning time I think Sep 16 11:52:35 as fare as I know you can not make an app depandend on a patch or the other war right now. Preware only support patches that depand on other patches or apps that depand on other apps Sep 16 11:52:51 But I think rwhitby planned to add this in a future release Sep 16 11:52:59 app can depend on patch Sep 16 11:53:41 but the updating can be a bit pain for the user since those dependencies are not handled automatically Sep 16 11:53:49 so manual uninstall / update / install may be needed Sep 16 11:55:21 sconix: Hi, that is what I mean. Not automatic install of the patch when you install the app. This works for ap to app (e.g. Navit depands on locale and speadk) or yout topbar patch collection Sep 16 11:55:35 no there is automatic install of the patch when you install the app Sep 16 11:55:46 its just when you want to update the patch when there is "problems" Sep 16 11:56:31 actually I am not even sure if there is a problem in that case but might be that you need to manually uninstall/installa something when updating Sep 16 11:56:39 ok, was not aware that they added this allready ... Sep 16 11:56:46 but that I am sure that app can depend on a patch which then gets installed automatically Sep 16 11:56:53 since my app used it while back.. Sep 16 12:03:08 sconix: I know, I used your Modeswitcher too ;-) Sep 16 12:03:57 :) Sep 16 13:53:14 i uh, just got a pre yesterday Sep 16 13:53:29 and already patched the hell out of it Sep 16 13:53:32 pretty easy stuff Sep 16 13:54:05 yay Sep 16 13:54:10 it's a great device Sep 16 13:54:26 and a great community Sep 16 13:54:28 took me forever to get tethering to work Sep 16 13:54:36 and yeah, i enjoy it so far Sep 16 15:30:27 * halfhalo strums air guitar Sep 16 15:31:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THBiP7E4MXc Sep 16 15:31:39 hahahaha Sep 16 15:36:43 * halfhalo has forked the redmine_gitosis plugin on github and is in the process of breaking it on purpose Sep 16 16:36:09 halfhalo, can you please look at the wiki and see if you can edit it? Sep 16 16:36:29 any ol edit? Sep 16 16:36:35 yes Sep 16 16:37:06 yup Sep 16 16:37:08 I can Sep 16 16:37:13 good thanks Sep 16 17:59:58 whatchagonnado, whatchagonnado when they come for you Sep 16 18:13:45 oooohhhhh... I like the looks of this.... Sep 16 18:15:14 * halfhalo will break this http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/repository/entry/trunk/db/migrate/037_add_project_identifier.rb on purpose Sep 16 20:16:43 PuffTheMagic, hi Sep 16 20:16:46 can I ssh? Sep 16 20:25:15 GNUtoo|laptop, yo Sep 16 20:25:19 one sec Sep 16 20:25:42 phone is dead Sep 16 20:25:45 has to charge enough to boot Sep 16 20:25:51 ok Sep 16 20:45:13 GNUtoo|laptop, ping Sep 16 20:45:28 ping Sep 16 20:45:33 *pong Sep 16 20:45:39 go play Sep 16 20:46:07 ok thanks a lot Sep 16 20:48:03 ssh smessh Sep 16 20:50:53 :) Sep 16 20:51:00 phail Sep 16 20:51:12 yo Sep 16 20:53:55 sup? Sep 16 20:54:34 no se ingles Sep 16 20:54:49 hehe Sep 16 21:03:04 GNUtoo|laptop, you trying that gpio irq? Sep 16 21:08:39 m too slow to do soething Sep 16 21:08:44 It's using swap Sep 16 21:34:23 PuffTheMagic, ok it OOMed Sep 16 21:34:27 I'll look wifi later Sep 16 21:34:28 bye Sep 16 21:57:35 http://www.reddit.com/r/WebOS_Internals/ Sep 16 21:59:08 orly Sep 16 22:57:52 Anyone using F104A, what voltage are you using for 1.1? Sep 16 22:58:45 hey, I just ran Dr.Battery. Before I ran it, health repoted 94%, now it says 77%, ... after Dr.Battery completed... is something wrong, or was it a bad reading to begin with? thanks! Sep 16 23:01:08 also did the getfull & get age read from file.. reports same. Sep 16 23:09:24 sorry bout that.. :/ Sep 16 23:09:45 morning Sep 16 23:10:05 6pm here.. :) but mornin neways ;) Sep 16 23:10:40 * halfhalo blames oil Sep 16 23:11:30 ~ugt Sep 16 23:11:31 ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Sep 16 23:12:15 ugh. oils fault. ;) Sep 16 23:12:51 Do either webos-internals or the uberkernel folks accept patches for the webos kernel or modules? Sep 16 23:13:44 *shrug* Sep 16 23:14:17 Error454: sure Sep 16 23:14:35 Error454: BTW, the two groups you mentioned are the same people Sep 16 23:15:27 rwhitby: Oh! My mistake. Do I just use the patch submission page on webosinternals.org? Sep 16 23:17:18 Error454: no, you talk to me directly about it. Sep 16 23:17:26 what have you got? Sep 16 23:18:44 rwhitby: The usb mass storage driver used by the Pre is very old, based on f_mass_storage.c written by the Android team. There are many issues with this driver, the main one being how it handles scsi commands with improper length, as generated by many faulty hosts (Xbox 360 to name one). The patch is to handle these faulty command lengths which unlocks support for numerous popular usb hosts. Sep 16 23:19:35 Error454: sounds good. are you the patch author? Sep 16 23:20:17 rwhitby: Not really, it was written by Felipe Balbi back in 2008 for file_storage.c but was never applied to f_mass_storage.c. I have applied it to the Android version of f_mass_storage.c. Sep 16 23:20:41 Which is the same version of f_mass_storage.c used by WebOS Sep 16 23:20:53 Error454: do you have a URL to the patch? Sep 16 23:22:08 rwhitby: Let me know if this suffices: http://pastebin.com/ASnmZ1Mi Sep 16 23:23:56 Error454: it does. Are there any cases where not checking fsg->cmnd[0] explicitly can be a problem? Sep 16 23:26:22 rwhitby: I do not believe so. In the old implementation, we specifically knew that for Windows,only a single scsi command was sent with improper length. Now we know that there are several scsi commands sent by various hosts that have improper length. The patch submitted by Felipe was more generic in this sense as it wasn't limited to checking the scsi command code, but simply the length. Sep 16 23:28:28 Error454: ok, I will /msg you my email address - please email me the patch and the history of contributors to the patch so we can do correct attribution. Sep 16 23:28:56 rwhitby: Will do. Sep 16 23:28:57 Error454: if there is a forum thread or web page where this problem is described, please include a link to that too Sep 16 23:29:10 (to give users some background context) Sep 16 23:29:19 rwhitby: I will do so. Sep 16 23:29:26 thx Sep 16 23:30:04 Error454: which kernel would you use for testing it? Sep 16 23:30:50 rwhitby: I'm not sure what choices you are thinking of. I was testing with my own kernel. Sep 16 23:32:04 UberKernel, F10x, SR71, etc Sep 16 23:32:04 after testing it would go in all of course - just asking which to use for testing and validation by someone who can reproduce the issue Sep 16 23:32:24 * rwhitby bbiab Sep 16 23:33:02 rwhitby: I run UberKernel and would test with it. Sep 16 23:41:09 Is there a preferred diff invocation for patches? Sep 16 23:41:35 unified Sep 16 23:41:39 I use diff -BurN starting from just above the linux source dir Sep 16 23:42:09 * rwhitby hopes chrisA will also pass it on to the kernel team Sep 16 23:42:15 heh Sep 16 23:42:34 I have no idea how our code drops get released Sep 16 23:42:34 it's a diff BurN against the kernel guys :( Sep 16 23:42:41 I don't believe the kernel folk do it actually Sep 16 23:42:55 i am surprised it isn't fully automated by now Sep 16 23:43:04 It likely is somewhere in the build system Sep 16 23:43:09 ah Sep 16 23:43:11 I just don't know who/what owns it Sep 16 23:43:13 gotcha Sep 16 23:43:15 chrisA: oh, I meant the actual patch that Error454 is being submitted. the palm published patch is formatted fine Sep 16 23:43:17 Do you guys usually work with 2 separate trees? A stock one and a modified one? Sep 16 23:43:18 how was your summer, chrisA ? Sep 16 23:43:24 oh ok Sep 16 23:43:32 Which patch are we talking about? Sep 16 23:43:38 http://pastebin.com/ASnmZ1Mi Sep 16 23:43:49 makes usb storage mode work for xbox360 apparently Sep 16 23:44:08 ah Sep 16 23:44:40 Sounds like the 360's imp is weird? Sep 16 23:45:01 chrisA: It is Sep 16 23:46:06 While I can see us pulling in things like compcache, this isn't really a priority Sep 16 23:46:29 Is this in the upstream repo somewhere? If I can just pull it down from linus it would be easier Sep 16 23:47:15 chrisA: It is now fixed in the mainstream kernel, WebOS currently uses f_mass_storage.c from the Android team, not to be confused with f_mass_storage.c in the mainline kernel (which WebOS should be using) Sep 16 23:48:25 could you pm me a commit hash? Sep 16 23:48:37 Or a link to it in their gitweb Sep 16 23:50:34 I'll see what I can do in the time I have Sep 16 23:51:17 chrisA: Thanks, for reference, Android is abandoning their version of f_mass_storage.c (http://www.mail-archive.com/android-kernel@googlegroups.com/msg01931.html), so this would be the way to go at some point. Sep 16 23:51:34 is/has abandoned Sep 16 23:53:13 f mass storage .. who needs it? Sep 16 23:53:22 lol Sep 16 23:53:34 repeat after me: usb's implementation is dumb Sep 16 23:54:07 usb as a standard, or how it is on linux ? Sep 16 23:54:25 I dislike usb in general Sep 16 23:54:34 But especially in windows Sep 16 23:56:51 i can't imagine windows usb being any fufn Sep 16 23:56:55 fun rather Sep 16 23:57:08 my only usb experience is that silly libusb thing i did when the pre first came out Sep 16 23:59:20 this is why man invented usb/serial converters Sep 17 00:15:40 Error454: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=kernels/patches.git;a=blob;f=usb/f_mass_storage.patch;hb=HEAD Sep 17 00:17:14 rwitby: Wow thanks, my 1st patch! I think I'll go out and celebrate. Sep 17 00:17:59 ^+h Sep 17 00:18:22 Error454: it will be in a testing version of UberKernel soon Sep 17 00:18:50 dundunDUNNNNNNN Sep 17 00:19:28 rwhitby: Is there an rss feed I can monitor so I can run some test cases against the relevant kernel when it is released? Sep 17 00:20:10 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=preware/build.git;a=rss Sep 17 00:20:36 it will appear in the kernel testing feed up to an hour after it appears there Sep 17 00:20:55 rwhitby: Ok, I will keep an eye out. Thank you for your time today. Sep 17 00:59:08 test Sep 17 00:59:47 i hate tests :( Sep 17 00:59:57 bpadalino: you get an F Sep 17 01:00:30 damnit .. like usual Sep 17 01:08:28 lol Sep 17 01:20:41 why is there a ferrari thing on cnbc right now... Sep 17 01:21:22 * rwhitby tests a 1.4.5-112 uberkernel Sep 17 01:21:34 * chrisA whistles Sep 17 01:21:57 gonna need someone with an xbox360 to test it Sep 17 01:22:13 * halfhalo looks at the 360 in his room Sep 17 01:22:43 chrisA: feeling any better about your summer now ? Sep 17 01:23:26 battery_scaleback_percent cpu_hightemp_alarm override_charger vdd1_vsel_max Sep 17 01:23:26 battery_scaleback_speed cpu_hightemp_reset vdd1_vsel vdd1_vsel_min Sep 17 01:23:33 summer wasn't bad Sep 17 01:23:53 well spent, enjoyable, memorable? Sep 17 01:24:44 All three Sep 17 01:24:48 * halfhalo is debating which stock to buy... AMD or MS.... Sep 17 01:24:51 sounds good Sep 17 01:24:52 Though my interesting trips are coming up Sep 17 01:24:58 where you headed to ? Sep 17 01:25:19 Aliph Sep 17 01:25:35 never heard of it Sep 17 01:25:37 where is that ? Sep 17 01:25:42 * chrisA whistles Sep 17 01:25:48 and vegas, socal and ideally vietnam/singapore Sep 17 01:26:02 oooohhhh vegas... going there soonish Sep 17 01:26:04 wow you are all over the place Sep 17 01:26:41 SEAsia is probably interesting Sep 17 01:27:34 chrisA: enjoy your trips .. sound like fun times Sep 17 01:27:47 going by yourself or with friends ? Sep 17 01:28:36 friends to aliph, alone to asia, friends to the others Sep 17 01:29:06 alone to asia - interesting .. do you speak any of the languages they speak there or just gonna wing it ? Sep 17 01:29:58 You can do surprisingly well in asia via waving your hands around like someone possessed Sep 17 01:30:50 i'll be sure to remember that if i ever find myself in asia by myself Sep 17 01:31:06 Handwaving works everywhere as far as I can tell Sep 17 01:31:15 Minus countries where handwaving is offensive Sep 17 01:31:24 really? whenever i handwave, i just get crazy looks here .. and i speak the language! Sep 17 01:31:45 Maybe you need to make it more charming handwaving Sep 17 01:32:24 oh, charming .. i suppose the coffee makes it a bit jittery and crazed at times Sep 17 01:32:31 i'll try booze next time Sep 17 01:34:19 * rwhitby notes that Aliph == Jawbone Sep 17 01:35:47 * halfhalo just realized he can't buy any stocks since he has no monies Sep 17 01:36:37 why would chrisA be going to jawbone ? Sep 17 01:37:12 09:48 halfhalo: dundunDUNNNNNNN Sep 17 01:37:25 yup Sep 17 01:38:43 I wondered how long until someone would catch it Sep 17 01:38:46 But rwhitby had to help Sep 17 01:39:32 you've got a trip to see some bluetooth headsets ? Sep 17 01:40:13 and i thought my trips were lame :( Sep 17 01:40:33 * chrisA whistles Sep 17 01:42:02 * rwhitby provides the harmony Sep 17 01:43:31 #webos-acapella is starting Sep 17 01:43:59 lol Sep 17 01:47:09 I'm still waiting for the lightbulb over bpadalino's head Sep 17 01:48:17 * rwhitby suspects bpadalino is being discreet Sep 17 01:48:25 It's hard to tell Sep 17 01:48:44 The web has bold, italic and underline but still lacks sarcasm Sep 17 01:49:32 there is definitely no bulb going off .. i'm just that obtuse Sep 17 01:50:56 * rwhitby was made aware of jawbone's real company name by another kernel hacker who used to work at Palm Sep 17 01:51:57 i think i'm starting to pick up what you're putting down Sep 17 02:01:23 sooo.... how bout them redmines Sep 17 02:11:00 *tumbleweeds* Sep 17 02:15:30 UberKernel 1.4.x-112 for Pre/Pre+ in http://bit.ly/kernel-testing-feed (read the rules first!) - details at http://bit.ly/uberkernel-112 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 17 02:59:57 2010