**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 29 02:59:57 2010 Sep 29 05:25:49 Anyone here have any experience with decompiling, editing, and recompiling webOS doctor without meta doctor? I'm interested in doing some things that meta-doctor can't do from what I can tell... Sep 29 05:26:19 out of curiosity, what are you trying to do Sep 29 05:26:42 edit out some verizon specific things- but not all of them Sep 29 05:26:46 just a few select packages Sep 29 05:26:47 ;) Sep 29 05:27:12 with meta-doctor there's no way to pick and choose individual packages- it's all or nothing Sep 29 05:27:20 at least that's my understanding Sep 29 05:28:27 seb_or_sam: meta-doctor has a script to unpack a doctor Sep 29 05:28:45 it also has a feature to use a custom carrier tarball Sep 29 05:29:00 It's not about the unpacking Sep 29 05:29:12 using a combination of those two things you should be able to achieve your desired result Sep 29 05:29:22 I don't want to get rid of the entire tarball though... Sep 29 05:29:28 hmm... Sep 29 05:29:57 well, I've unarchived the verizon.tar archive and all Sep 29 05:30:06 but I don't want to loose everything in it Sep 29 05:30:17 I'd prefer to just take out the VZ Navigator IPKs Sep 29 05:30:36 aside from that what else is in there Sep 29 05:30:41 Mobile Hotspot? Sep 29 05:30:48 yes Sep 29 05:31:04 I think there might be some PRL stuff too Sep 29 05:31:12 I'll check again Sep 29 05:31:16 seb_or_sam: tar back up the packages you want to keep and then give that tarball path to CUSTOM_CARRIER_TARBALL= Sep 29 05:31:46 is that a standard line to uncomment? Sep 29 05:31:49 in the makefile that is Sep 29 05:32:34 no, it's an undocumented feature Sep 29 05:32:39 rwhitby: Thanks! Sep 29 05:33:02 rwhitby: I'm no makefile expert so i didn't think to look for easter eggs Sep 29 05:33:25 member:rwhitby: thank you very much for the tip! Sep 29 05:35:20 there is a CUSTOM_WEBOS_TARBALL too Sep 29 05:35:29 SineOt: here's the contents of the verizon.tar folder (once unarchived, of course) Sep 29 05:35:40 amazonservice_1.0-5_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:40 audiod-config-cdma_1.0-4_castle.ipk Sep 29 05:35:40 castlecdmafw-verizon_1.0.0-522_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:41 com.nim.app.vznavigator_1.0.0-15.4_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:41 com.nim.vznavigator_1.0.0-15.4_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:41 com.palm.app.amazonstore_1.0-71_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:42 com.palm.app.firstuse-override_1.0-198.2_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:42 com.palm.app.mobilehotspot_1.0-1.0.12_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:42 crotestcastleplus-images_1.0-2_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:43 firstuse-media-castleplus_1.0-3_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:43 odd-video-castleplus_1.0.0-1_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:43 palmcustomizationinfo-verizon_1.0-171_all.ipk Sep 29 05:35:44 sweatshop-verizon-castle_1.0-50_armv7.ipk Sep 29 05:35:58 seb_or_sam: pastebin for the love of irc Sep 29 05:36:18 "sweatshop-verizon-castle_1.0-50_armv7.ipk" what in the world Sep 29 05:36:26 dtzWill: Yeah, I should've used pastebin that in hindsight Sep 29 05:36:55 sorry about that... I'm not a regular of IRC in general as you can tell Sep 29 05:37:31 SineOt: No clue. But every version of the doctor (verizon, sprint, att, etc.) seems to have a sweatshop IPK Sep 29 05:37:45 hm, doctor's buttons have no text Sep 29 05:38:00 wonder what it does Sep 29 05:38:33 unpack it and look Sep 29 05:38:42 seb_or_sam: no worries, just felt like complaining :). one of those days :P Sep 29 05:38:47 forgive my ignorance, but... how? :p Sep 29 05:38:57 nevermind~ Sep 29 05:39:03 dtz: it's all good- i'm the one who was being ignorant Sep 29 05:39:15 member:identifier:sineot good ol archive utility Sep 29 05:39:22 is it a standard zip, or does it do something different? Sep 29 05:39:41 SineOt: No, it's an archive though Sep 29 05:39:57 hm, wonder what will extract it on OSX then Sep 29 05:40:01 Ubuntu's archive utility works Sep 29 05:40:07 SineOt: Nothing Sep 29 05:40:14 SineOt: Trust me, I've tried Sep 29 05:40:22 that's what I was afraid of Sep 29 05:40:28 I'm mainly an OS X user too Sep 29 05:40:34 SineOt: I use ipkg-unbuild from http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=preware/build.git;a=tree;f=toolchain/ipkg-utils Sep 29 05:40:57 I just have ubuntu in a virtual machine and use the archive manager Sep 29 05:41:25 rwhitby: I didn't even know about that! Nice! Thanks Sep 29 05:41:50 Out of curiosity, is this specifically for webOS IPKs? Sep 29 05:42:16 Since webOS isn't the only OS to use IPKG Sep 29 05:43:35 Excuse my ignorance- I'm not to knowledgable when it comes to IPKG Sep 29 05:44:17 nope, it's from zaurus originally I think Sep 29 05:44:44 interesting Sep 29 05:45:20 I've never really seen other types of IPKs- I've just read about them, which doesn't give the full experience Sep 29 05:47:13 hm, where should I drop arfile.py? I've never used Python before Sep 29 05:48:02 execute it inTerminal Sep 29 05:48:22 it was complaining about not finding the module, I forgot to add the .py to arfile Sep 29 05:48:24 works fine now Sep 29 05:48:36 thanks rwhitby Sep 29 05:51:53 SineOt: You're a mac user, right? Sep 29 05:52:00 mmhm Sep 29 05:52:05 SineOt: Do you know of any good IRC apps other than Colloquy Sep 29 05:52:06 ? Sep 29 05:52:32 I can't seem to find anything other than Colloquy Sep 29 05:52:51 what do you use? Sep 29 05:52:53 Linkinus is nice but whoever decided to price an IRC client at 19 euro is kind of dumb when every other OSX option is free Sep 29 05:53:06 I use a Colloquy nightly build that I make every few weeks Sep 29 05:53:11 Hmm... I'll take a look Sep 29 05:53:21 I don't usually use nighties of anything Sep 29 05:53:32 Linkinus is nice but that price kills me Sep 29 05:53:45 you paid for it already, so why does it matter? Sep 29 05:53:59 I've only used the trial they have, it's like a 15 day thing Sep 29 05:54:10 Ah Sep 29 05:54:13 It looks nice Sep 29 05:54:15 I didn't end up purchasing it because while it's nice, it's not 30$ nice :p Sep 29 05:54:19 seb_or_sam: I use LimeChat on mac Sep 29 05:54:27 The UI looks a bit like Things by Cultured Code Sep 29 05:54:49 rwhitby: I'll check it out Sep 29 05:55:05 rwhitby: had no idea you were a mac user Sep 29 05:58:25 rwhitby: LimeChat looks pretty un mac-like... seems to be a step above ircII and other command line IRC apps, but still looks like it's meant to fit in with the command line Sep 29 05:58:44 I'm a UI snob, I know... I like good design. Sep 29 05:59:37 I think you might be best served by the colloquy nightlies then... Yeah, it's a nightly, but eh-Development has slowed so much on the desktop version that most of it is small bug fixes and not major, complex new feature additions so it's pretty stable Sep 29 06:00:11 Apparently Timothy, the main dev, is also an Apple dev and got moved to the iPhone team, last I heard, hence the huge slow down in development... Sep 29 06:00:29 He works for Apple? Sep 29 06:00:50 did last time I checked ;o Sep 29 06:00:50 Is this a side project for him? I'd explain why it's free I 'spose Sep 29 06:00:59 fairly sure it is, yeah Sep 29 06:01:03 I'll check the nightlies out Sep 29 06:01:07 one of those "10%" type side projects Sep 29 06:01:18 Isn't Remote one too? Sep 29 06:01:20 seb_or_sam: LimeChat fits nicely alongide an iTerm, yes. Sep 29 06:02:12 rwhitby: I love the command line, so I can see LimeChat fitting in- but there's something about it... Sep 29 06:02:39 seb_or_sam: I used to use silverex.org X-Chat on windows some time ago Sep 29 06:03:04 rwhitby: sounds familier Sep 29 06:03:31 Just out of curiosity, is OS X your main desktop OS? Sep 29 06:03:35 but yeah, seb_or_sam, I'm a big UI kind of guy to the point of having customized a ton of it ;P Sep 29 06:04:16 SineOt: Same here. It's one of the things I love about webOS. The UI and the elegance is unsurpassed. Sep 29 06:06:17 sometimes my brain just farts on me really hardcore: if I wanted to unpack an appstore app, where in the world would I find the IPK :C Sep 29 06:06:43 seb_or_sam: yes, for the reason that I prefer to ignore the UI and focus on the content, and OS-X seems to do that better than windows and linux Sep 29 06:06:58 (I don't have a desktop, BTW) Sep 29 06:07:14 I want to see if I can patch Slacker to allow landscape Sep 29 06:07:37 SineOt: App store- as in iOS? You mean app catalog right? Sep 29 06:07:44 er, yeah Sep 29 06:07:51 SineOt: Well, that would just be a regular patch Sep 29 06:07:57 that thingy that makes the apps show up Sep 29 06:08:03 SineOt: No need to extract the IPK Sep 29 06:08:16 I'd need the original to figure out what needs to go where though, wouldn't I? Sep 29 06:08:32 SineOt: Oh. Well, just use Internalz Sep 29 06:08:43 yeah, but still, where would I find it :p Sep 29 06:09:38 media cryptofs usr palm applications Sep 29 06:09:44 there should be slashes there Sep 29 06:09:52 but I guess IRC won't allow slashes Sep 29 06:10:32 SLASH media SLASH cryptofs SLASH usr SLASH palm SLASH applications Sep 29 06:10:50 the apps are all folders Sep 29 06:11:18 and they're all named with the com.companyx.appname convention Sep 29 06:11:18 see, that's what I was thinking too, but /media/cryptofs/usr/palm/applications only shows the stock palm apps Sep 29 06:11:23 unless it hides them from novaterm Sep 29 06:11:48 are you in the emulator? Sep 29 06:12:02 no, my Pixi hooked up via USB Sep 29 06:12:06 good Sep 29 06:12:27 how weird Sep 29 06:12:29 emulator won't be useful. good that you're pixi is novatermed in Sep 29 06:12:35 hmm Sep 29 06:12:48 you're just ls'ing right? Sep 29 06:13:03 oh, you know what I did, haha. Serious brainfart night Sep 29 06:13:13 what? Sep 29 06:13:25 when I was cd'ing I screwed up and ended up in /usr/palm/applications instead of /media/cryptofs/usr/palm/applications :I Sep 29 06:13:46 oh Sep 29 06:13:49 that explains it Sep 29 06:13:53 * SineOt puts his face on his desk Sep 29 06:14:09 eh, it's an easy mistake Sep 29 06:14:22 I've done far more idiotic things Sep 29 06:14:36 BTW, it's /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/... Sep 29 06:14:48 oh ok Sep 29 06:15:03 I was going off of memory alone Sep 29 06:15:12 and my memory is pretty crappy Sep 29 06:15:38 "that place where the apps live" Sep 29 06:16:03 SineOt: well there's also palm's special app directory Sep 29 06:16:18 the one you saw earlier ;) Sep 29 06:16:48 I've done much dumber things though Sep 29 06:17:12 like? ;D Sep 29 06:17:14 I once backed up my macbook pro's hard drive, byte by byte- everything e Sep 29 06:17:30 and I erased the hard drive and installed snow leo again Sep 29 06:17:37 then I restored my data Sep 29 06:17:55 once my data was all there, I decided to erase the backup hard drive Sep 29 06:18:14 ...of course, I forgot to restore my applications folder Sep 29 06:18:30 all my apps were backed up there, and i forgot to put them back on my mbp Sep 29 06:18:41 too late- I erased the backup drive Sep 29 06:19:13 as in, I did a secure erase of the drive- it wrote zeros over all the data Sep 29 06:19:24 this is why all my really important app stuff, like prefs, etc, get to live with symlinks to dropbox! Sep 29 06:19:24 It might've even been a 7 pass erase Sep 29 06:19:32 I used to do that Sep 29 06:20:00 but then I noticed dropbox ALWAYS had to work on something Sep 29 06:20:14 anytime I did, well, anything, it'd need to sync a file Sep 29 06:20:25 sync the .plists, etc... Sep 29 06:20:27 constantly Sep 29 06:20:37 ate up the RAM and battery life Sep 29 06:21:00 rather I should say, only the apps I really care about get that treatment Sep 29 06:21:01 now I just use Dropbox for all my documents, and projects of any kind Sep 29 06:21:09 everything else it's like eh whatever if you get lost I really don't care Sep 29 06:21:26 Ah ok Sep 29 06:21:34 I eventually go to that point Sep 29 06:21:41 but it still was a pain Sep 29 06:21:52 because my dropbox got cluttered Sep 29 06:22:10 the only app I do that for now is 1password Sep 29 06:23:27 I have a folder I keep in Dropbox called "Profile Backups" that hides all the behind the scenes type stuff, which keeps things decently tidy Sep 29 06:24:35 nice! Sep 29 07:51:32 what is the best kernel Sep 29 20:24:09 hy Sep 29 22:43:53 sup guys Sep 29 22:45:05 So, what do I have to do to get in on the product review gig? Sep 29 22:49:12 Zen00, you kno wwhat you have to do Sep 29 22:49:44 macman_: Write a bunch of letters? Sep 29 22:49:56 Zen00, you know Sep 29 22:50:08 * ryan[WIN] takes off his pants Sep 29 22:50:11 haha Sep 29 22:50:18 :P Sep 29 22:50:32 oh sorry that was just coincidental Sep 29 22:50:39 lol Sep 29 22:50:43 I've written enough meta-reviews, and I want the opportunity to write one first hand. Sep 29 22:50:57 dammit where did cryptk go.... Sep 29 22:52:26 n00b question Sep 29 22:52:39 there a diff from palm and webos Sep 29 22:52:39 orno Sep 29 22:52:43 or no* Sep 29 22:52:52 Palm is the company, webOS is the product. Sep 29 22:52:52 peopel refer to the palm as many things Sep 29 22:52:58 aw ok Sep 29 22:53:05 so palm pre = web os Sep 29 22:53:18 palm pre = web os device Sep 29 22:53:22 Palm Pre is the product that runs the OS which is a product. Sep 29 22:53:29 palm pixi = web os device Sep 29 22:53:44 future hp/palm branded products = web os devices Sep 29 22:53:59 hpalm :) Sep 29 22:54:05 facepalm Sep 29 22:54:11 heh Sep 29 22:54:21 they should name the facebook app for palm that Sep 29 22:54:54 facepalm, head, shoulders, toes... I see that coming ;) Sep 29 22:55:43 facebook needs to come to emulator Sep 29 22:59:17 So, my rig is finally stable at 3.36Ghz, with only 1.8v on the Vcore. :D Sep 29 22:59:31 Just finished my stability testing this morning. Sep 29 23:02:36 Next up is finiding a stable 4+Ghz clock. Sep 29 23:03:00 Then seeing how much higher I can go. I want to hit 5Ghz, but I don't have liquid nitro. Sep 29 23:03:28 So I think I'll settle for a boot on 4.5Ghz. Sep 29 23:04:09 Make that 1.18v on my core currently. :O 1.8 would be quite the stunner. Sep 29 23:05:53 nice Sep 29 23:05:57 i'm using a 600MHz celeron Sep 29 23:06:03 :< Sep 29 23:06:18 Really? You can OC celerons really well, if you have the right ones that is. Sep 29 23:06:28 They set the world records on them. Sep 29 23:06:32 8+Ghz. Sep 29 23:07:29 well it's upticked to 900mhz right now loool Sep 29 23:07:47 When'd you buy that computer Sep 29 23:07:50 first gen eee pc Sep 29 23:07:54 2007 Sep 29 23:08:05 or wait 2008 Sep 29 23:08:06 yeah 2008 Sep 29 23:08:15 won the cash for it in a poker game woo Sep 29 23:08:39 :/ Sep 29 23:08:55 Even then, you shouldn't have been buying a 600Mhz celeron computer in 2008. Sep 29 23:09:08 I had a 2Ghz one back in 2005 Sep 29 23:09:17 And that was the cheapest! Sep 29 23:09:35 this is a first gen eee pc Sep 29 23:09:41 :P Sep 29 23:09:49 nobody had netbooks before this one :D Sep 29 23:09:58 Well, as far as classics go. Sep 29 23:10:16 So it's a netbook, not a notebook or desktop? Sep 29 23:10:28 yeah it's first gen eee pc netbook - basically the first netbook Sep 29 23:10:36 4GB HD :D Sep 29 23:10:39 Well, explains the stats. Sep 29 23:10:55 You could pop $200 and buy five times the netbook today. Sep 29 23:11:00 oh of course Sep 29 23:11:11 So what keeps you hanging on? Sep 29 23:11:15 but i like using this eee pc because it pretttty much does what i need to do Sep 29 23:11:33 i don't do much other than code and irc and go on a few web pages or play old snes games Sep 29 23:11:46 and i use lunix on it so it's pretty ok Sep 29 23:12:14 Well then, go on ahead. Sep 29 23:12:32 I have to have a gaming rig, even though I'm only a weekend gamer. Sep 29 23:12:32 I currently use my first gen Aspire One to act as a second screen for irc. Sep 29 23:15:40 Hrm, just got a message back about a developer Palm Pre. I wonder if I should even bother replying, doubt they'd give one to a 3rd class developer like me (one who only works on it during the summer). Sep 29 23:17:31 Only one way to find out, really :p Sep 29 23:17:44 What have you developed so far? Sep 29 23:18:05 I have about three half finished projects on Ares. Which is my problem. Sep 29 23:18:21 I only know how to use Ares, but no one's written any good books on how to use it, so I can't use it. Sep 29 23:18:35 Meaning I'm not very good with Mojo for design. Sep 29 23:18:35 Yeah, I've noticed that the documentation is pretty bad for Ares Sep 29 23:18:47 but then again it's pretty bad on most of the stuff from what I've stumbled across Sep 29 23:18:48 It's a great tool, but not enough documentation. Sep 29 23:18:55 Quote .. Get on your knees and tell me you love me ? Sep 29 23:18:59 anyone remember ? Sep 29 23:19:15 Vaguely, it's from a song, no? Sep 29 23:19:37 Oops. That wasn't the power button to my external harddrive at all! Sep 29 23:20:09 No need for me to worry, my external drive only powers on when plugged in via USB. Sep 29 23:20:44 3.5" 500GB drives aren't light weight enough for just plain USB power. :p Sep 29 23:20:48 But yeah, I would like a free Pre Plus, but I don't feel like I deserve it. I would if only there was a good book on how to program with Ares. Sep 29 23:21:08 That's what I have SineOt . Sep 29 23:21:19 From what I've seen, it's only a bit of tweaking to get standard dev stuff to function within the confines of Ares. Sep 29 23:21:35 It also has an external power source, it just doesn't activate till you plug in the USB. Sep 29 23:21:47 It was a bit harder than that when I was messing around with it. Sep 29 23:21:58 ah Sep 29 23:32:13 what I can't figure out is how to update a progress bar c_c Sep 29 23:33:28 In what? Sep 29 23:33:39 Oh wait, webOS programming, right? Sep 29 23:36:27 Well, I just sent Palm a reply, so we'll see what happens. Sep 29 23:36:47 Yeah Sep 29 23:37:26 Maybe they'll pity the poor developer. Or maybe they'll just give it to me to clear out that warehous of Pre's making way for the Pre 2. Sep 29 23:37:43 That's why I think they're doing this in the first place. Sep 29 23:39:58 Yeah. At worst, they say no and nothing of value was lost. Sep 29 23:40:54 Maybe I'll get one since I'm working with dtzWill on a new UI for the VBA and SuperSNES apps. Sep 29 23:41:30 * Zen00 is doing physics, and something seems to be full of hot air... Sep 29 23:41:52 New UI? Cool stuff :3 Sep 29 23:42:18 I've always had an easier time with UI stuff. It's funny, a lot of the developer friends of mine will ask me questions about it. "Should I do this or will it totally suck" Sep 29 23:42:42 Yeah, I'm going to design some graphics for him, and he puts them in. Sep 29 23:42:57 Better than the blue bar black back it has now. Sep 29 23:43:07 Say that five times fast now. Sep 29 23:50:33 Awesome :9 Just realized that using Fluid I could stick Ares in a site specific browser and have it live separately from Safari~ Sep 29 23:51:33 Useful, but I know how to ctrl+tab well enough, and since most of Ares resources are web-only, I just keep it in the browser as it's faster. Sep 29 23:52:31 * Zen00 finally gets around to making an Internalz wiki account. Sep 29 23:53:16 This means I can quit the browser, crash the browser, destroy whatever I want to... And not worry about killing Ares in the process Sep 29 23:54:20 Well, as it autosaves as you do your work, even if the browser crashes you wouldn't lose much anyways, I hope. Sep 29 23:54:41 But yeah, Flash does tend to crash brosers. Sep 29 23:55:19 yay trying out supernes on pre Sep 29 23:55:28 putting all verified good dumps of US roms on there wooo Sep 29 23:55:58 ryan[WIN]: haven't tried it before? :D Sep 29 23:56:04 nah Sep 29 23:56:10 i'm a zsnes afficionado Sep 29 23:56:12 ryan[WIN]: gl :). bug me if you have issues, although i'm about to step out for a bit. Sep 29 23:56:18 but obviously zsnes doesn't have an arm port Sep 29 23:56:19 issues/problems/suggestions/etc Sep 29 23:56:22 ryan[WIN]: haha right. Sep 29 23:56:34 based on snes9x i assume? Sep 29 23:56:40 ryan[WIN]: yes. Sep 29 23:56:57 based on drnoksnes/drpocketsnes which are from snes9x 1.39, but with misc changes/fixes Sep 29 23:57:11 go too much newer and all the snes emulators stopped worrying about speed so much and wanted accuracy Sep 29 23:57:28 a good direction certainly once computers were up for the challenge... but not so good for porting to mobile devices :) Sep 29 23:57:44 yep Sep 29 23:58:02 zsnes is great because the core is such a mess of asm and tweaks it'll never get a new version Sep 29 23:58:09 so it still works wonderfully on my first gen eee pc Sep 29 23:58:30 * Zen00 adds a 1Ghz column to the speeds table. Sep 29 23:58:37 dtzWill, i will try it out - where's the source? Sep 29 23:59:01 ryan[WIN]: yeah i played lots of snes goodness on my eee as well :). works nicely. Sep 29 23:59:22 why is the palm in USB mode so darn slow Sep 29 23:59:25 like 1MB a second Sep 29 23:59:28 ryan[WIN]: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=games/snes9x.git , but development isn't done on master, it's on drnoksnes_webos Sep 29 23:59:43 true Sep 30 00:00:06 does it output in SDL or opengl Sep 30 00:00:30 i can't do non-fastforward updates so can't replace master with the correct branch and i want to keep the history properly :) Sep 30 00:00:37 well i can but i'd have to bug rwhitby and i'm too lazy :P Sep 30 00:00:51 ryan[WIN]: opengl since it's faster, but less so as of 1.4.5 than previously. Sep 30 00:01:05 well now that i support transparent skins and whatnot it's...the clear choice. Sep 30 00:01:17 that and 'free' scaling with different filters, etc Sep 30 00:01:21 i'm surprised that SDL on palm pre does 8bpp with hw palette Sep 30 00:01:34 or at least pretends to Sep 30 00:02:00 ryan[WIN]: i don't remember, tbh. i investigated that the most when i started vba Sep 30 00:02:13 sdl->gl improved blitting speed about 30x lol Sep 30 00:02:23 it's since been fixed so it's not that broken anymore Sep 30 00:02:31 ah Sep 30 00:03:15 i copied like 800 files (~600MB) to this pre and it's going 1MB /sec Sep 30 00:03:19 anyway i'd welcome some dev work and would be happy to help you through any parts of the code that aren't clear, etc, depending what you had in mind :). Sep 30 00:03:23 this is so aggravating i've never used the palm in USB mode Sep 30 00:03:30 i could wget it over my network fast Sep 30 00:03:31 faster Sep 30 00:03:51 lolol. you sure it's not like a usb 1.0 port slowness being the issue? Sep 30 00:03:56 but yeah i just scp them to my device lol Sep 30 00:04:03 easier and faster O:) Sep 30 00:04:29 kk i'm off. cya guys :) Sep 30 00:04:32 also does supernes want the roms in /media/internal/snes/roms Sep 30 00:04:32 * dtzWill wanders off Sep 30 00:04:33 or in /snes/roms Sep 30 00:04:37 gahhhh Sep 30 00:04:42 ryan[WIN]: /media/internal/snes/roms Sep 30 00:04:49 but for people who use usb mode it's /snes/roms/ Sep 30 00:04:59 and if you have the fstab fix it'll create those directories for you :) Sep 30 00:05:01 or it should :D Sep 30 00:05:12 I wonder if anyone will notice if I kill all the current game benchmarks... Sep 30 00:05:17 i assumed it was /media/internal/snes/roms ok Sep 30 00:05:18 good Sep 30 00:05:28 It would be much easier than adding to new columns to each one. :P Sep 30 00:05:38 i'm installing the palm sdk so i can make an ipkg Sep 30 00:05:41 And they're all out of date. Sep 30 00:05:55 and get shippre1984 onto the preware thingy Sep 30 00:06:18 ryan[WIN]: nice! actually if you put it in preware build.git will create ipk for you if you just wrie your makefile correctly Sep 30 00:06:29 ryan[WIN]: talk to rwhitby about that, it works well and is easy. Sep 30 00:06:30 By the way dtzWill I want to know if you'll be here during the weekend to discuss UI? Sep 30 00:06:39 Zen00: i will not, travelling unfortunately :(. Sep 30 00:06:46 Ah well. Sep 30 00:06:49 Zen00: i'm sorry, i definitely do want to spice things up, i just suck at being available. Sep 30 00:06:54 anyway Sep 30 00:06:57 for real i got to go Sep 30 00:06:58 :) Sep 30 00:07:01 Anyways, in the mean time is it all right for me to go ahead, Sep 30 00:07:05 enjoy, happy traels, cya :) Sep 30 00:07:09 just make each thing a single peice? Sep 30 00:07:15 Zen00: sure, i can't promise i'll use it but might as well Sep 30 00:07:19 Yeah, good travels. Sep 30 00:07:31 Zen00: i guess? but no reason to not have them separatable if that ends up being easier... i mean..right? Sep 30 00:07:34 different layers and whatnot? Sep 30 00:07:38 Yeah. Sep 30 00:07:40 dtzWill, yeah it builds with "make" on scratchbox already Sep 30 00:07:44 without any extra nonsense Sep 30 00:07:48 So that you can easily move stuff around to where you want it. Sep 30 00:07:56 ryan[WIN]: oh that's a bonus. we actually sometimes justt commit binaries to git to avoid issues. Sep 30 00:07:57 And I can make them one peice just as easily. Sep 30 00:08:23 i did have to convert my awesome xm music over to mp3 though Sep 30 00:08:27 ryan[WIN]: ooooooo snes9x needs the cs10q1 toolchain to build properly, and it's not my fault (not code i added). bug in 2007q3 and 2008q1 toolchains prevents it from building. just FYI Sep 30 00:08:28 which was sda :< Sep 30 00:08:39 sad Sep 30 00:08:50 mikmod isn't built into sdl mixer Sep 30 00:08:55 I'll make up something for SuperSNES this weekend, and you can take a look when you get back. Sep 30 00:09:23 Zen00: fantastic. i'll probably be on irc intermittedly but not in any reliable or dev-like fashion Sep 30 00:09:26 hahaha Sep 30 00:09:28 <3 you all Sep 30 00:09:30 GAH Sep 30 00:09:33 i got to go Sep 30 00:09:35 cya Sep 30 00:09:35 lates Sep 30 00:10:20 I hate it when I do this, have an interesting conversation but have to run at the same time. Sep 30 00:10:49 treadmill conversations sound difficult Sep 30 00:15:19 There, just finished fixing the benchmark table for VBA on the Wiki. Sep 30 00:16:28 * Zen00 now reads about Napoleon. Sep 30 00:39:35 * Zen00 creates controversy on the forums. Sep 30 00:40:31 haha Sep 30 00:51:12 My one lament is that my computer runs quite hot. Sep 30 01:30:16 ... Sep 30 01:30:28 soooo close to finishing the redmine plugin im working on! Sep 30 01:30:40 What does it do? Sep 30 01:31:00 redirects the wiki to an external site Sep 30 01:31:33 Why? Sep 30 01:33:46