**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 02 02:59:57 2010
Oct 02 10:42:19 <valexa> is there any callback for when the keyboard is shown/dismissed ?
Oct 02 11:28:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi PuffTheMagic
Oct 02 11:52:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> ping PuffTheMagic
Oct 02 11:55:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> sigh I'll abandon the idea of looking again at 88w8686 now
Oct 02 12:16:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> PuffTheMagic, I've got new ideas for wifi so I neeedddd ssh
Oct 02 12:16:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically try the marvell source
Oct 02 12:17:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> it got a lot of stuff lile:
Oct 02 12:17:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> WAKEUP_FW_THRU_GPIO
Oct 02 12:18:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> gpio_irq_callback(void *arg)
Oct 02 12:18:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Oct 02 12:19:31 <GNUtoo|laptop>  *  @brief Get/Set Firmware wakeup method
Oct 02 12:19:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> which is availiable trough irq
Oct 02 12:19:52 <GNUtoo|laptop>         case WLAN_FW_WAKEUP_METHOD:
Oct 02 12:19:52 <GNUtoo|laptop>             ret = wlan_cmd_fw_wakeup_method(priv, wrq);
Oct 02 12:20:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> s/irq/ioctl/
Oct 02 12:21:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> hscfg
Oct 02 12:21:16 <GNUtoo|laptop>         This command is used to configure the host sleep parameters.
Oct 02 12:21:16 <GNUtoo|laptop>                 iwpriv ethX hscfg Condition [GPIO# [Gap]]
Oct 02 12:21:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> this is from README
Oct 02 12:22:20 <GNUtoo|laptop>                 iwpriv eth1 hscfg -1                    # cancel host sleep mode
Oct 02 12:22:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> so with that at first we may get the driver do something
Oct 02 12:22:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> PuffTheMagic, btw your server changed?
Oct 02 12:24:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
Oct 02 12:24:20 <MetaView> what?
Oct 02 12:24:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> MetaView, I am trying to make free wifi works on the palm-pre
Oct 02 12:24:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I've no palm-pre
Oct 02 12:25:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I need to ssh in a computer belonging to PuffTheMagic to be able to work on it
Oct 02 12:25:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> but he's not there right now
Oct 02 12:26:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically the only palm-pre that I could get was a french palm-pre plus at outrageous prices
Oct 02 12:26:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> 765E or something like that
Oct 02 12:26:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> because it's the prices in all the SFR shops
Oct 02 12:27:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> despite of having lower prices on the sfr internet website
Oct 02 12:27:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I bet they would have been simlocked
Oct 02 12:27:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> and now I'm broke so I can't buy one either
Oct 02 12:27:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I care about SHR on palm-pre
Oct 02 12:28:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I wanted to try the new idea I had for wifi
Oct 02 13:49:36 <MetaView> GNUtoo|laptop: can't eve nafford a cheap used one?
Oct 02 13:49:39 <MetaView> fro mebay?
Oct 02 13:49:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> no I'm really broke
Oct 02 16:03:51 <PuffTheMagic> GNUtoo|laptop, yo
Oct 02 16:03:59 <PuffTheMagic> i've been in Cali for the week
Oct 02 16:04:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> PuffTheMagic, ok
Oct 02 16:04:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi
Oct 02 16:05:03 * GNUtoo|laptop connects his second screen so he can works on 8686
Oct 02 16:05:47 <PuffTheMagic> i wont be able to expose the phone till i get back to my house in a few days
Oct 02 16:05:52 <PuffTheMagic> im at the parents right now
Oct 02 16:05:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 16:06:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw your computer exposed to the net changed?
Oct 02 16:06:34 <PuffTheMagic> i took it to cali
Oct 02 16:06:43 <PuffTheMagic> so its not connected to anything
Oct 02 16:06:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 16:06:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I'll come back later
Oct 02 16:07:02 <PuffTheMagic> k
Oct 02 16:28:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> PuffTheMagic, about when will it be available?
Oct 02 16:29:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> PuffTheMagic, could you send me the scripts that are in /home/gnutoo in your palm-pre ?
Oct 02 16:29:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> or pastebin
Oct 02 16:29:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> or something
Oct 02 16:33:16 <PuffTheMagic> no i dont have the phone
Oct 02 16:33:24 <PuffTheMagic> its about 300 miles away
Oct 02 16:33:29 <projectAlarum> Anyone ever had issues with a list length over 50 items?
Oct 02 16:33:36 <PuffTheMagic> i wont be back till monday or tuesday
Oct 02 16:33:41 <PuffTheMagic> i havent decidedyet
Oct 02 16:34:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 16:47:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi playya__
Oct 02 16:47:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> do you need help for tslib userland reporting
Oct 02 16:47:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Oct 02 16:55:45 <playya__> GNUtoo|laptop, testing the plugin
Oct 02 16:55:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've no palm-pre
Oct 02 16:56:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I know evdev/tslib
Oct 02 16:56:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> on kernel side
Oct 02 16:56:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> according to morphis you've got an issue with registering touch/clicks
Oct 02 16:56:38 <playya__> morphis just told me, that i the clicks got worse in the corners
Oct 02 16:57:09 <playya__> atm i return the last know value with pressure= 0 to get the mouse up
Oct 02 16:57:38 <playya__> at least ecore. fb uses it like this
Oct 02 16:57:40 <playya__> X, too
Oct 02 16:57:47 <playya__> not checked qt, gtk
Oct 02 17:02:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> playya__, ok
Oct 02 17:02:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> so it works?
Oct 02 17:02:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> I thought it didn't work at all
Oct 02 17:03:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> I mean that clicks weren't registered at all
Oct 02 17:03:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> but that the position was working
Oct 02 17:03:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> so it's ABS_PRESSURE
Oct 02 17:03:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 17:32:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> playya__, for pressure = 0 it's the thing to do
Oct 02 17:32:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> it register the click only when you do things like
Oct 02 17:33:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> 255->....->0
Oct 02 17:33:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> replace 255 by any number between 1 and 255
Oct 02 17:33:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> if you really report real presure
Oct 02 17:33:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've looked a bit at the sources
Oct 02 17:38:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> I comprared to the raw plugin
Oct 02 17:38:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> and that should work
Oct 02 17:38:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> samp->pressure = cy8mrln_info->ts_pressure;
Oct 02 17:38:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I can't really tell without the device
Oct 02 17:44:28 <playya__> GNUtoo|laptop, if i do not have a value > noise, i return the last sample with pressure = 0
Oct 02 17:44:40 <playya__> next thing would be to implement multitouch
Oct 02 17:44:45 <nn7> I'm trying to import a new certificate file but internalz keeps opening the file rather than the certificate manager.  any way around this other than uninstalling internalz?
Oct 02 17:45:03 <playya__> atm tsmd is the problem, because it doesn't report a pressure
Oct 02 17:47:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 17:48:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> where are tsmd sources?
Oct 02 17:54:45 <playya__> GNUtoo|laptop, http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=utilities.git;a=blob;f=palmpre/tsmd/src/tsmd.c;h=3e64555ab3cd9c0a960ede7b62b3967b544f8087;hb=HEAD
Oct 02 17:55:04 <playya__> so you know the order for a evdev event?
Oct 02 17:55:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 02 17:55:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> no
Oct 02 17:55:21 <playya__> BTN_TOUCH (1) ,x,y, pressure, syn?
Oct 02 17:55:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I know what is ABS_PRESSURE and BTN_TOUCH
Oct 02 17:55:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> I modified the htcdream driver for working with tslib
Oct 02 17:56:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> then I re-modified it to work with evdev again
Oct 02 17:56:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> and spent one day calibrating it in landscape
Oct 02 17:57:19 <playya__> ok
Oct 02 17:57:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> why are there ABS_PRESSURE and BTN_TOUCH?
Oct 02 17:57:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's for beeing evdev and tslib at the same time?
Oct 02 17:58:35 <playya__> it's only possible to open /dev/touchscreen once on the pre
Oct 02 17:59:06 <playya__> tsmd reads from /dev/touchscreen and creates an evdev input
Oct 02 17:59:13 <playya__> have to leave.
Oct 02 17:59:21 <playya__> see you tomorrow
Oct 02 17:59:57 <playya__> (and we want to have a working userspace before creating our own bleeding edge kernel)
Oct 02 18:00:00 <playya__> bye
Oct 02 18:00:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> bye
Oct 02 18:00:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> so BTN_TOUCH then
Oct 02 19:06:25 <PuffTheMagic> anyone know the specs of the Pre mic?
Oct 02 19:25:12 <nn7> i ooveee th palm prrrrre
Oct 02 19:27:14 <summatusmentis> you guys, I bought a pre on ebay for parts, with the goal of buying a pre plus, and mixing them
Oct 02 19:27:33 <summatusmentis> but the pre pluses that look nice (aren't damaged) are expensive :(
Oct 02 19:31:51 <hape> noradtux: are you there?
Oct 02 19:39:37 <macman_> hola
Oct 02 19:42:02 <macman_> anyone overclocked there palm pre to say 800mhz and used a good battery app to get at least 11 hours or even 8 hours out of it ?
Oct 02 19:43:19 <summatusmentis> when you over clock, you can have it underclock when the screen is off, etc.
Oct 02 19:43:35 <macman_> yea
Oct 02 19:44:22 <summatusmentis> I don't have a device, so I can't reall tell you
Oct 02 19:44:33 <summatusmentis> but I don't think there are different battery apps, exactly
Oct 02 19:44:34 <macman_> me eaither
Oct 02 19:44:39 <macman_> im staring at a emulator
Oct 02 19:44:51 <summatusmentis> and I don't know that any apps will drastically affect battery life, outside of managing stuff with govnah
Oct 02 19:44:52 <macman_> summatusmentis, why you have no device ? not upgrade eligble ?
Oct 02 19:46:21 <summatusmentis> macman_: I've been on SERO, which was a legacy plan sprint used to offer. Because it's a legacy plan, they weren't allowing new android or WebOS phones on my plan
Oct 02 19:46:41 <summatusmentis> that changed yesterday, now I can get a $10/mo add-on on my plan, and can use new devices
Oct 02 19:47:28 <macman_> what device though ?
Oct 02 19:47:36 <macman_> sero is a plan right ?
Oct 02 19:50:06 <summatusmentis> sero is a plan
Oct 02 19:50:15 <summatusmentis> currently I'm using an HTC Touch with a hacked version of android
Oct 02 19:51:57 <macman_> nice
Oct 02 20:01:06 <summatusmentis> it's ok
Oct 02 20:01:08 <summatusmentis> I want a pre
Oct 02 20:01:13 <summatusmentis> really badly
Oct 02 20:02:16 <macman_> me to
Oct 02 20:02:21 <macman_> im appeling to my wife early
Oct 02 20:03:07 <macman_> http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=Palm?+Pre+(TM)+Plus+(Refurbished)+-+Black&q_sku=sku4960224 <-- referbished $49.99 i have to re-sing a new contract
Oct 02 20:44:44 <macman_> guys there has to be a wap to swap the calls .. say i call somebody and i want to add a line right .. i add the line and i have 2 calls on the line instead  of conferncing the call i want to swap it but i don't see this option
Oct 02 20:44:49 <macman_> any ideas on how to swap ?
Oct 02 20:46:06 <summatusmentis> why do you ask in both #webos and #webos-internals?
Oct 02 20:47:41 <macman_> dunno
Oct 02 20:47:45 <macman_> my irc client sucks
Oct 02 20:48:49 <summatusmentis> I just feels redundant
Oct 02 20:50:10 <macman_> also .. most people aren't on 2 channels at once
Oct 02 20:50:25 <summatusmentis> I don't think that's true
Oct 02 20:50:58 <macman_> then #webos and #webos-internals is diff
Oct 02 20:51:13 <macman_> i've seen most people be on the same channel but diffrent ircd's with the same name
Oct 02 20:51:33 <halfhalo> They serve two different purposes, only ask in the one channel the question belongs in
Oct 02 20:51:33 <summatusmentis> they're different channels, and they have different purposes, but I think a lot of people hang out in both
Oct 02 20:57:17 <macman_> ye well
Oct 02 20:57:20 <macman_> the swap thing is huge for me
Oct 02 20:57:36 <macman_> i like swapping calls back and forth and not being able to conference the call
Oct 02 21:02:15 <macman_> hmm
Oct 02 21:07:45 <macman_> yea
Oct 02 21:07:49 <macman_> seconds thoughts
Oct 02 21:07:52 <macman_> palm rocks but
Oct 02 21:08:15 <summatusmentis> but you're just gonna leave and not finish your sentence? cool.
Oct 02 21:08:58 <halfhalo> inorite?
Oct 02 21:10:29 <summatusmentis> >.>
Oct 02 21:10:40 <SineOt> didn't you get the memo, that's what all the cool kids do
Oct 02 21:11:22 <swisstomcat> evening
Oct 02 21:11:35 <summatusmentis> hi
Oct 02 21:49:41 <VPBree> Hi!
Oct 02 21:49:54 <SineOt> so what's your question?
Oct 02 21:50:26 * mumbles wonders if theres a page limit on the pdf reader ?
Oct 02 21:50:29 <mumbles> upper ?
Oct 02 21:50:43 <VPBree> Oh. Im not sure. Was told about preware and thats as far as I got so far.
Oct 02 21:50:49 <SineOt> Ah :)
Oct 02 21:51:45 <swisstomcat> hmm
Oct 02 21:52:18 <VPBree> Anything I should know beforehand?
Oct 02 21:52:23 <VPBree> Before I attempt this? :o
Oct 02 21:55:46 <summatusmentis> as someone who doesn't have a device, I don't think there's anything you really need to worry about, and I'm fairly certain there's nothing you can do that would make your pre impossible to repair
Oct 02 21:56:01 <VPBree> thanks hun. :)
Oct 02 21:56:56 <summatusmentis> hun?
Oct 02 21:57:23 <VPBree> Problem?
Oct 02 21:57:45 <summatusmentis> not overly, I guess
Oct 02 21:57:54 <VPBree> Ill jsut call you summa. :p
Oct 02 21:58:22 <summatusmentis> that's more comfortable, certainly :)
Oct 02 21:59:06 <swisstomcat> goodn8
Oct 02 21:59:10 <summatusmentis> 'night
Oct 02 22:12:05 <DThought> so... I've managed to get something go wrong. i have no patches applied anymore, but my top bar isn't working and got a weird layout.
Oct 02 22:12:45 <DThought> how can i restore the palm stock files without doing a whole doctor the easiest way?
Oct 02 22:14:20 <chris|w> I suddenly want to try installing a git repo on my device and adding all js and non-binaries to it
Oct 02 22:14:53 <chris|w> patch removal could be a rebase back
Oct 02 22:15:06 <chris|w> well, more a reset
Oct 02 22:15:45 <DThought> i tried emergency patch recovery ... after the last patch removal i tried failed because of failed hunks...
Oct 02 22:55:49 <VPBree> :3 Webos doctor is not recognizing my device as plugged in
Oct 02 22:59:35 <DThought> VPBree: is developer mode enabled on it? if not you might need to restart it into bootie
Oct 02 22:59:49 <VPBree> What?
Oct 02 23:00:56 <VPBree> Im sorry. How, now what.
Oct 03 01:36:58 <VPBree> developer mode is enabled but its still not recognizing after a few minutes. :3
Oct 03 01:59:47 <scoutcamper> lol
Oct 03 01:59:52 * scoutcamper hates his irc client
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