**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 05 02:59:57 2010 Oct 05 03:09:16 just checking - anyone know how to get a Pre out of an infinite reboot loop when Recovery Mode/Doctor doesn't do it? Oct 05 03:10:21 RWings19: you'll need to work out what is causing the loop. Oct 05 03:10:37 any idea how to do that, rod? Oct 05 03:10:40 RWings19: first guess would be something in /etc/event.d/ Oct 05 03:10:51 second guess is the kernel Oct 05 03:11:00 have you got all your data off it - that's the first priority Oct 05 03:11:07 working on that now Oct 05 03:11:19 it's slow going, have to copy the files one by one Oct 05 03:11:22 can you novaterm in? Oct 05 03:11:32 got the pictures, need to work on the saverestore directory Oct 05 03:11:43 I can novaterm in Oct 05 03:11:51 Zip the entire thing and move it over at once? Oct 05 03:11:57 been using the Device Browser .jar Oct 05 03:12:46 RWings19: use the commands in Makefile to tar up on the device and stream it over Oct 05 03:12:58 halfhalo, that's a decent idea - should everything I need be contained in /media/internal? Oct 05 03:13:37 just have to hope I have enough room on the device to .tar everything Oct 05 03:13:53 * halfhalo shrugs. Never actually backed anything up off the pre, everything is synced to the clouds and then rained down on my pc Oct 05 03:14:16 halfhalo: pictures are not backed up to the cloud, I don't think, Oct 05 03:14:20 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media/ --totals -cf - . > media.tar Oct 05 03:14:29 so i had to get those, which I did Oct 05 03:14:40 (assuming your media partition is mounted at /tmp/media) Oct 05 03:14:48 * halfhalo has that folder synced with other stuff Oct 05 03:15:06 it's in /mnt/media Oct 05 03:18:04 hmm, the .tar file is only 595 bytes. That doesn't seem right Oct 05 03:18:14 nope Oct 05 03:18:15 Or its got amazing compresson Oct 05 03:18:22 compression* Oct 05 03:18:33 I typed the line exactly as you specified, except I used /mnt/media/ Oct 05 03:19:08 weird - that command works on Linux and Mac-OSX Oct 05 03:19:32 I do that from within the Pre, right? Once I am at the root@palm prompt? Oct 05 03:19:48 no, you do that from the host Oct 05 03:20:02 novacom causes a command to run on the Pre Oct 05 03:20:19 e.g. novacom run file://bin/ls Oct 05 03:20:27 ok, will try again Oct 05 03:22:04 it's running... Oct 05 03:22:10 Rod, you're a genius Oct 05 03:22:36 should I look at etc/event.d to see what's contained in there? Oct 05 03:22:52 yep Oct 05 03:24:22 just three files Oct 05 03:24:29 novacomd Oct 05 03:24:40 runlevel-H-handler, runlevel-U-handler Oct 05 03:24:46 oh, the mounted version of etc/event.d Oct 05 03:24:57 maybe /mnt/root/etc/event.d or something Oct 05 03:26:59 ok, plenty to see there Oct 05 03:27:29 look for a govnah or compcache file Oct 05 03:28:54 don't see either one of those there Oct 05 03:29:29 BTW, can't thank you enough for your patience and assistance Oct 05 03:31:57 so if I can't find compcache or govnah, what else should I check? Oct 05 03:32:44 at that point you will want to revert the kernel Oct 05 03:33:08 you'll need to unpack the files from /boot and /lib/modules from the doctor, and transfer them across to the Pre Oct 05 03:33:40 OK Oct 05 03:36:14 to the same directories on the pre? replace everything that is currently there? Oct 05 03:40:30 just trying to find where those files are in the doctor archive Oct 05 03:40:43 think I've got 'em Oct 05 03:44:07 in the archive, in /boot , there are 5 files... on my pre in /boot there are only three Oct 05 03:44:51 the ones that are missing are system.map-2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 and config-2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 Oct 05 03:46:42 could that be what is making the difference? Oct 05 03:46:46 Microsoft has once again let me down... Oct 05 03:47:09 halfhalo, why now? Oct 05 03:47:19 new technet changes Oct 05 03:48:19 Instead of 1 level with 10 keys per item, theres now two levels with either 2 keys or 5 keys Oct 05 03:49:33 I can understand the new tiers... but they didn't announce it to anything, they just changed it Oct 05 03:49:38 Including existing accounts Oct 05 03:54:51 RWings19: again, make sure you are looking in the mounted boot area Oct 05 03:55:01 right Oct 05 03:55:29 use webos.pastebin.com to paste the contents of /mnt/boot (or wherever) Oct 05 03:56:37 if I look in /mnt I do not see boot Oct 05 03:58:01 I have card, cf, log, media, net, ram, root, update, and var Oct 05 03:58:13 card, cf, net, and ram are symlinks Oct 05 04:02:10 maybe it's not mounted Oct 05 04:02:24 could that be part of the problem? Oct 05 04:02:46 ah, the meta-doctor doesn't bother mounting that Oct 05 04:03:10 run "mkdir /mnt/boot ; mount /dev/mapper/store-boot /mnt/boot" Oct 05 04:03:21 run "mkdir /mnt/boot ; mount /dev/mapper/store-boot /mnt/boot -o ro" Oct 05 04:03:29 the second one? Oct 05 04:03:50 second for read-only, first for writeable Oct 05 04:04:07 i probably need writeable Oct 05 04:04:30 ah, boot is different Oct 05 04:04:49 well, i have not issued any commands yet Oct 05 04:05:17 try "mkdir /mnt/boot ; mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 /mnt/boot" Oct 05 04:05:48 the /boot partition is not part of the LVM Oct 05 04:06:33 failed: device or resource busy Oct 05 04:07:02 pastebin the output from "cat /proc/mounts" and "cat /proc/partitions" Oct 05 04:07:47 it might be mmcblk0p2 Oct 05 04:08:44 ugh... the novacom command to export to media.tar keeps self-disconnecting!! Oct 05 04:11:59 just posted to pastebin Oct 05 04:25:51 OK looks like 0p2 is it - just amended the pastebin with the file listing from /mnt/boot Oct 05 04:28:46 rwhitby, what next? Oct 05 04:31:19 RWings19: I didn't see the pastebins, or confirmation of /boot mounting Oct 05 04:31:40 boot mounted... it was 0p2 Oct 05 04:32:07 i haven't done anything since then Oct 05 04:32:20 ok, so you need to copy the kernel from the recovery ipk or doctor into there Oct 05 04:32:24 in /boot and /lib/modules Oct 05 04:32:36 *very* *carefully* Oct 05 04:32:38 http://webos.pastebin.com/yaEiy9q7 Oct 05 04:33:20 Hmm - you have a chuck (Pixi) kernel in your /boot Oct 05 04:33:45 that would explain it. Oct 05 04:33:55 what tool did you use to install your kernel? Oct 05 04:34:11 all I have used is Preware / Govnah / Uberkernel Oct 05 04:34:34 weird thing is that one minute, the phone was working fine. the next, it had started its reboot loop. Oct 05 04:34:34 I can't see how you got a Pixi kernel on there then Oct 05 04:34:40 yeah me either Oct 05 04:34:56 if I rm those chuck files, might that make a difference? Oct 05 04:35:01 "ls -l /mnt/boot" please Oct 05 04:36:04 http://webos.pastebin.com/bD2FBUF1 Oct 05 04:36:18 include the output of ls -l /mnt/boot Oct 05 04:36:43 uImage symlink is still pointing to the right place Oct 05 04:36:46 righ Oct 05 04:36:48 right Oct 05 04:37:03 ls -l /mnt/root/lib/modules/ Oct 05 04:37:55 two dirs, one chuck and one joplin Oct 05 04:38:27 Jul12 date on chuck, Sep17 date on joplin Oct 05 04:39:15 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jul 12 2010 2.6.24-palm-chuck Oct 05 04:39:17 drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Sep 17 2010 2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 Oct 05 04:39:25 remove all the chuck stuff - that's for a pixi Oct 05 04:39:47 compare all the joplin stuff against the kernel and modules out of the doctor or the palm recovery ipkg Oct 05 04:39:49 why would the chuck have such an old time stamp on it? Oct 05 04:40:45 pixi kernel hasn't changed a lot Oct 05 04:41:03 what is the switch to force rmdir to work when it's not empty? i can't remember Oct 05 04:42:06 wouldn't that place it almost a month+ older than release date? Oct 05 04:42:13 assuming stock 1.4.5 Oct 05 04:43:10 build date for Pixi 1.4.5 is 20100614133409 Oct 05 04:43:27 they sat on that thing for a long time Oct 05 04:43:55 what's the build date for Pre 1.4.5? Oct 05 04:43:57 yep, thank your carriers for that Oct 05 04:44:16 they are all on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Oct 05 04:44:45 (date column in the md5sums table) Oct 05 04:45:15 they're all about 6/14, aside from ATT's Oct 05 04:46:14 interesting, difference in file size in the uImage files btwn what is on my Pre and what is in the Doctor Oct 05 04:46:55 on my Pre: 2,353,404 in the Doctor archive: 2,345,880 Oct 05 04:47:30 also slight diff in System.map files Oct 05 04:47:43 and config files Oct 05 04:47:48 significant?? Oct 05 04:49:25 should I replace those three files in /mnt/boot? Oct 05 04:50:14 the ones in the Doctor archive are dated Jun14, vs. Sep17 on my Pre Oct 05 04:51:48 copy the ones from the doctor to your Pre Oct 05 04:51:58 make sure the /lib/modules files match too Oct 05 04:52:19 all of the subfiles in lib/modules? Oct 05 04:52:20 you need a consistent set of kernel and modules, or you'll make things worse Oct 05 04:58:34 is there a quick way to copy directories from the host to the Pre through novacom? Oct 05 05:03:21 once i have everything copied, should I umount and try to reboot? Oct 05 05:03:56 yep Oct 05 05:04:10 the quick way for directories is to use tar Oct 05 05:05:29 OK, I created the .tar file on the host Oct 05 05:06:17 transferred it over Oct 05 05:07:06 so now tar xvf filename.tar, right? Oct 05 05:09:39 OK got it sent over... going to try to umount and see what happens Oct 05 05:11:13 argh....... Oct 05 05:11:19 no luck, same stupid reboot Oct 05 05:12:43 this thing is really toast Oct 05 05:28:13 you should be able to doctor it Oct 05 05:30:01 sorry, Rod, I just tried the Doctor and no luck Oct 05 05:30:15 my last resort will be trying 1.0.3 Oct 05 05:30:20 instead of 1.4.5 Oct 05 05:33:00 try it from a linux or mac computer Oct 05 05:35:33 OK... I'll see if I can get it to work on Linux Oct 05 05:38:43 native linux, not a virtual machine Oct 05 06:14:58 oil: govnah release seems to have been well recieved Oct 05 06:15:17 thats good Oct 05 06:27:28 does anyone remenber the command to return a list of all lauchpoints in json? Oct 05 06:29:24 morning Oct 05 15:39:42 hi PuffTheMagic Oct 05 16:04:43 ping PuffTheMagic Oct 05 16:21:46 ping PuffTheMagic Oct 05 16:21:54 does it makes you magically appear? Oct 05 16:22:03 hmmm no Oct 05 16:22:05 didn't work Oct 05 16:23:21 maybe I need some magic formulas Oct 05 16:40:41 My pal pre loses all my alarms when I reboot Oct 05 16:40:57 it doesn't lose them, it just changes them all to "alarm"+daily+5pm and turns them all off Oct 05 16:41:09 so I suddenly have 7 identical alarms and they're all off Oct 05 16:50:40 nn7: my favorite is when my pre reboots right when an alarm is supposed to go off, the code that runs the alarm is started up WAY early relative to giving me the UI, so i have to sit for the 3 minutes or so until I can finally disable the damn thing Oct 05 16:50:51 happened to me a few times, notably this morning x.x Oct 05 16:51:27 hahah Oct 05 16:51:42 I read somewhere someone recommending a different alarm app in the app catalog Oct 05 16:51:48 conceivably i could adjust the volume? didn't try it was early and i was ..not pleased. Oct 05 16:51:59 nn7: yeah the default is crap, although with patch to add day support and whatnot it's better Oct 05 16:52:10 I have that patch Oct 05 16:52:23 but I keep losing my alarms Oct 05 16:53:22 nn7: yeah, i have that too, but i regularly mess up my device's preferences deal making it act goofy...al the time. Oct 05 16:53:39 stilly is lame though that you can't reliably count on the alarm, my fault for making phone flaky or no Oct 05 17:38:02 hi internets! Oct 05 17:39:31 damn, my dhclient-script edit didn't work. have to bring the laptop up to campus next time Oct 05 18:20:33 I wonder what would happen if I just dropped the linux dhclient-script in there...probably not good.. Oct 05 18:23:44 interesting that there are references to redhat in the palm files Oct 05 18:56:56 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Oct 05 18:57:24 PuffTheMagic, I'm busy with dream's wifi right now Oct 05 18:57:29 but I'll try as soon as I can Oct 05 18:57:31 maybe today Oct 05 18:57:39 just saying that im back in town Oct 05 18:57:43 so get at me when you are ready Oct 05 18:58:05 ok thanks a lot Oct 05 19:43:40 sconix, you there homie? Oct 05 19:43:50 yep Oct 05 19:44:09 Anybody mentioned a problem with the facebook chat spoof sounds with your new advanced config patch? Oct 05 19:44:34 It seems to be ignoring the configuration, plays an entirely different sound, or no sound at all. Oct 05 19:44:51 Yes I would guess it does Oct 05 19:45:24 It's configured as a normal messaging account, allows me to choose sound, vibration, and repeat options. Oct 05 19:45:25 since it is a spoof I guess it configures the account as gtalk account and my patch is looking notification settings for facebook not gtalk Oct 05 19:45:40 and that is causing the problem Oct 05 19:46:01 Even though the OS considers it a gtalk account? Oct 05 19:46:18 yes the info that comes with the message is most likely telling that it is from facebook account Oct 05 19:46:55 anyway there is problems with the other account than gtalk so its still possible that I actually got something wrong so when I get that fixed the fb thing might start to work too Oct 05 19:47:22 Right on, no worries, just didn't know if anybody had brought it up or not. Oct 05 19:47:35 so I will look into this within next couple days, but it is possible that my patch cannot fix the fb spoof that it would need a separate patch Oct 05 19:48:01 Apart from that, the patch is great. Your work is much appreciated. Oct 05 19:49:26 thanks, hopefully the next release has those couple bugs that were reported all fixed out then I can be happy about the patch myself too :) Oct 05 19:49:44 -myself Oct 05 19:50:40 Your two patches rendered over 50 patches obsolete. That in itself is completely awesome. Oct 05 19:51:26 thats only side product specially for this latest patch, I just wanted more stuff that MS can control :) Oct 05 19:53:34 I also seem to be getting random vibrations. heh Oct 05 19:54:00 they can't be totally random Oct 05 19:54:05 something has to set them off Oct 05 19:54:35 I have no unread messages. Oct 05 19:54:46 I have the notification repeat set to 5 mins, that's about the interval. Oct 05 19:55:02 then its that, is it a messaging account? Oct 05 19:55:16 It might be a problem with the fb spoof again, not sure. Oct 05 19:55:23 That's the last account I received a message through. Oct 05 19:56:18 since I know that there is at least one more person having that problem Oct 05 19:56:40 I just haven't been able to reproduce it or figure out the reason, but I will :) Oct 05 19:56:55 First time this has happened. Oct 05 19:56:58 its most likely stupid typo somewhere that prevents the cancellation of the repeat task Oct 05 19:57:13 The joys of development. Oct 05 19:57:58 can you describe the situation of the last mesasge received, I mean did you have msg app open or no and did it show the banner and how did you opened the message (from the banner or by opening msg app etc.) Oct 05 19:58:04 this could help me to figure this one out Oct 05 19:59:05 It was just sitting idle on my desk, locked. The message came in, I didn't immediately open my phone and dismiss it. I think I cleared it after the first notification repeat. Oct 05 19:59:21 It just vibrated again, 3rd time. Will see if it stops, I have it set to a max repeat of 3. Oct 05 19:59:38 at least for the another person with the problem the limit works just fine Oct 05 19:59:51 so you dismissed the banned and did not open the messaging app from there ? Oct 05 20:00:07 anybody compare RIM tablet with webos yet? Oct 05 20:00:10 It was already opened to that persons message thread when I unlocked the phone. Oct 05 20:00:16 I didn't have a banner to swipe. Oct 05 20:00:16 as far as html applications go Oct 05 20:00:48 of course that situation I might have missed actually Oct 05 20:01:01 thanks will test and hopefully this is fixed in next release :) Oct 05 20:04:03 as it turns out the case for the same for the another person so I definitely can fix this now Oct 05 20:04:27 Excellent. Oct 05 20:23:05 PuffTheMagic, I'll ssh Oct 05 20:23:45 PuffTheMagic, but what's that Oct 05 20:23:54 @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ Oct 05 20:24:08 ya hold on Oct 05 20:24:13 i need to tweak my firewall Oct 05 20:24:17 ok Oct 05 20:24:25 firewall shmirewall Oct 05 20:24:41 REAL men hunt down and murder unauthorized connections Oct 05 20:26:00 "oh, so you think you can connect to me, eh ping? kill -9! kill -9!" Oct 05 20:26:18 halfhalo, you played too much with tcpkill Oct 05 20:26:42 or not enough Oct 05 20:27:00 * GNUtoo|laptop didn't even use it once Oct 05 20:27:42 * GNUtoo|laptop has only 30min Oct 05 20:27:47 ok Oct 05 20:27:49 try ssh Oct 05 20:27:54 on port 6000 Oct 05 20:28:11 ssh: connect to host bip.ryanhope.us port 6000: Connection refused Oct 05 20:29:14 ahh Oct 05 20:29:49 ssh default is 21 right? Oct 05 20:29:54 22 Oct 05 20:29:57 21 is ftp Oct 05 20:30:01 oops Oct 05 20:30:02 ;) Oct 05 20:30:12 you have puffy in your name Oct 05 20:30:17 you should know that then Oct 05 20:30:23 :) Oct 05 20:30:45 ok I'm in Oct 05 20:31:19 does it run the same installed kenrel than before? Oct 05 20:31:29 yeah Oct 05 20:31:35 ok thanks Oct 05 20:34:26 GNUtoo|laptop, im not sure why u cant access this rightnow Oct 05 20:34:33 i switched from dmz to port forwarding Oct 05 20:34:34 it works now Oct 05 20:34:36 oh it does? Oct 05 20:34:38 I'm in Oct 05 20:34:41 I told you Oct 05 20:34:45 GNUtoo|laptop> ok I'm in Oct 05 20:34:54 i must have been of line and missed it Oct 05 20:34:56 read up Oct 05 20:36:20 my bip was disconnected Oct 05 20:36:27 when my router reset Oct 05 20:36:29 so i didnt get that Oct 05 20:36:52 what is bsl0 Oct 05 20:36:58 ok Oct 05 20:41:11 bluetooth interface Oct 05 20:42:47 ok Oct 05 20:45:13 PuffTheMagic, what are the firmwares names? Oct 05 20:45:19 for sd8686 Oct 05 20:45:43 I point to the path? Oct 05 20:45:47 I'll try Oct 05 20:46:11 GNUtoo|laptop, idk what you did with the default firmwares Oct 05 20:46:18 so i cant tell u what they were named Oct 05 20:46:27 I know the names of the files Oct 05 20:46:38 but I don't know how sd8686 works Oct 05 20:46:48 nor how the palm one work Oct 05 20:47:58 ok Oct 05 20:48:05 I get how to load the firmwares Oct 05 20:48:14 as you saw it crashed Oct 05 20:48:30 * PuffTheMagic is not looking at the phone Oct 05 20:48:55 ok Oct 05 20:48:57 I wonder Oct 05 20:49:12 how to run iwpriv Oct 05 20:49:18 if it crash before Oct 05 20:49:42 hmmm Oct 05 20:49:47 are you near the phone? Oct 05 20:50:09 yeah Oct 05 20:50:18 it doesn't come back Oct 05 20:50:46 popped the battery Oct 05 20:50:47 booting now Oct 05 20:50:50 ok thanks Oct 05 20:54:23 I think I'm doing something wrong Oct 05 20:54:30 maybe activating the wrong devices Oct 05 20:56:02 board_rescan_wifi_slot(); Oct 05 20:56:04 should be ok Oct 05 20:56:06 but the rest? Oct 05 20:57:19 rest what? Oct 05 20:57:30 board_wl_vcc_enable(1); Oct 05 20:57:30 board_wl_rf_vcc_enable(1); Oct 05 20:57:40 the echo 1 > /sys/user_hw/pins/wifi/reset/level should be wifi Oct 05 21:06:23 GNUtoo|laptop: is that to replace the /debugfs support or is it palm specific, I mean is it a standard Oct 05 21:06:39 I'm not sure Oct 05 21:06:50 but for some devices it is made via debugfs indeed Oct 05 21:09:00 okay, it be nice to have a standard method, and rfkill is completely wrong (that should only kill rftx) Oct 05 21:09:20 tmzt_, there is some method Oct 05 21:09:32 see wl1271 discussions on linux-wireless mailing list Oct 05 21:09:35 that is the way to go Oct 05 21:09:39 ok Oct 05 21:09:41 I didn't follow them tough Oct 05 21:09:54 then we should adopt that over the dbgfs on the #htc-linux side, thanks Oct 05 21:10:02 indeed Oct 05 21:21:49 hmmm powersave is not enabled by defualt so it can't be that Oct 05 21:22:03 because the option it's not there is 2.6.24 Oct 05 21:26:37 PuffTheMagic, look at that: Oct 05 21:26:38 http://pastebin.com/QB18FhR3 Oct 05 21:26:40 strange Oct 05 21:26:50 [ 412.420000] kobject bsl0: registering. parent: net, set: devices Oct 05 21:26:51 [ 412.420000] kobject_uevent_env Oct 05 21:26:51 [ 412.420000] fill_kobj_path: path = '/class/net/bsl0' Oct 05 21:27:00 that is with sirloin_wifi Oct 05 21:27:12 I load it and I get that Oct 05 21:27:13 strnage Oct 05 21:27:19 bsl0 is bluetooth Oct 05 21:31:31 so then the mmc slots are backwards or something Oct 05 21:33:49 I don't know Oct 05 21:33:50 yet Oct 05 21:34:04 but I don't think it has to do with mmc directly Oct 05 21:34:13 I've no idea on how this is wired Oct 05 21:34:17 but often Oct 05 21:34:39 bluetooth and wifi are somewhat linked Oct 05 21:34:40 but Oct 05 21:34:52 if by backward you mean swapped Oct 05 21:34:55 it's impossible Oct 05 21:34:59 as microsd works Oct 05 21:35:18 s/microsd/nand-as-microsd Oct 05 21:35:22 what's the issue? Oct 05 21:35:30 tmzt_, we want wifi Oct 05 21:35:37 on pre? Oct 05 21:35:40 yes Oct 05 21:35:47 why can't you use bluez for bt? Oct 05 21:36:15 the wifi module from palm is an illegal proprietary wifi driver which used GPL exported stuff in the first versions of it Oct 05 21:36:19 but Oct 05 21:36:21 linked by gpio if it's interop Oct 05 21:36:28 what chip is it? Oct 05 21:36:32 libertas_sdio Oct 05 21:36:37 there is a gpio interupt thing Oct 05 21:36:41 oh right Oct 05 21:36:47 I've saw that in /proc/interrupts Oct 05 21:37:00 no, i mean between bt and wifi chip Oct 05 21:37:09 but all waht I am able to make is to crash the palm-pre and to activate the second sdio port Oct 05 21:37:13 I don't know Oct 05 21:37:13 how is bsl related to the issue Oct 05 21:37:17 we don't have schematics Oct 05 21:37:22 it comes up when I do that: Oct 05 21:37:58 board_wl_vcc_enable(1); Oct 05 21:38:04 board_wl_rf_vcc_enable(1); Oct 05 21:38:13 board_rescan_wifi_slot(); Oct 05 21:39:27 are you saying that then activates bluetooth as well? Oct 05 21:39:32 but wifi doesn't work Oct 05 21:40:57 yes Oct 05 21:40:59 that's it Oct 05 21:41:07 it activates bluetooth somehow Oct 05 21:41:15 but wifi doesn't come up Oct 05 21:41:25 altough threre is a lot of sdio traffic on mmc1 Oct 05 21:42:26 it can't be bad mmc, it has to be bad gpio/vreg Oct 05 21:42:31 or wifi and bt are connected Oct 05 21:42:42 it doesn't show up on the mmc bus? Oct 05 21:42:52 can you try unloading the wifi driver Oct 05 21:42:55 a lot of trafic Oct 05 21:42:56 and toggle it Oct 05 21:42:59 shows up on mmc Oct 05 21:43:02 ok Oct 05 21:45:16 still doesn't come up Oct 05 21:47:36 [ 1728.620000] SDIO: IRQ for mmc1:0001:1 already in use. Oct 05 21:47:52 I'll reboot Oct 05 21:48:03 that's the bus or not? Oct 05 21:48:36 steal embeddedsdio from #htc-linux kernel Oct 05 21:48:40 :) Oct 05 21:52:08 what's that? Oct 05 21:52:14 the one from the kernel? Oct 05 21:52:25 the CONFIG_EMBEDDED_SDIO? Oct 05 22:00:40 tmzt_, Oct 05 22:00:53 yeah Oct 05 22:01:00 http://pastebin.com/EfhXDG2m Oct 05 22:01:04 and our arch/arm/mach-msm/mmc.c Oct 05 22:01:11 can't follow links right now Oct 05 22:01:31 maybe in a minute, hold on Oct 05 22:01:43 I'll try something Oct 05 22:04:38 http://pastebin.com/wayyR5TH Oct 05 22:07:05 with rmmod+modprobe after: http://pastebin.com/Nzp6c7pt Oct 05 22:07:48 there is an enourmous lag Oct 05 22:13:15 I really must go to sleep Oct 05 22:18:15 later Oct 05 22:19:38 ok bye Oct 05 22:28:01 webos-internals.org is now mobile friendly! Oct 05 22:28:21 that thing is live? Oct 05 22:29:54 cant resolv host Oct 05 22:30:09 oops Oct 05 22:30:12 wrong phgone Oct 05 22:30:57 lol Oct 05 22:31:46 hey, that thing does work! Oct 05 22:32:47 since when did wirc make featured article Oct 05 22:33:03 def need to change the applications template Oct 05 22:33:22 yeah Oct 05 22:33:26 I can handle all of that in the code Oct 05 22:33:27 and the top logo is wonky looking Oct 05 22:33:34 good start though Oct 05 22:34:10 yeah, I just threw our small logo in there, needs to be smallre though Oct 05 22:41:47 PuffTheMagic: I shrank the logo some more Oct 05 22:42:04 yay screen scraping! Oct 05 22:43:42 ok, I am done for the day Oct 05 22:43:50 later all, I have real life stuff to do Oct 05 22:43:58 see ya Oct 05 23:54:36 * scoutcamper1 is confused, he is not online anywhere else Oct 05 23:54:49 this is scoutcamper fyi Oct 05 23:55:18 * scoutcamper is a winner Oct 05 23:55:28 * scoutcamper just found his missing irc window ... Oct 05 23:55:39 lol... Oct 05 23:56:22 wait wait, scoutcamper1 is the same person as scoutcamper? >.> Oct 05 23:56:55 yes Oct 05 23:57:04 it was even the same pc, i was a winner Oct 05 23:57:13 i was confused by my irc Oct 05 23:58:49 hah, I gathered, my point was you had almost the identical nick, but felt the need to clarify who you were Oct 06 00:04:47 lol Oct 06 00:04:48 yep Oct 06 00:05:01 the nicknames are registered and grouped :D Oct 06 01:21:47 * scoutcamper just had an epic idea Oct 06 01:22:19 have a app, where you map out all of your webos devices in your house, printers, toasters, fridges, etc Oct 06 01:22:32 than you can flick an app sideways to one of those :D Oct 06 01:22:59 jini Oct 06 01:23:32 ? Oct 06 01:24:04 might try wikipedia, the explaination is long and depressing Oct 06 01:26:38 wow Oct 06 01:27:44 Someone did that for ipad already I think Oct 06 01:29:48 but move it to webos :D Oct 06 01:30:07 with all the toasters out there, and printers, and other things Oct 06 01:31:30 yeah, app and data mobility will be important when you have multiple webOS devices Oct 06 01:32:09 * scoutcamper wants a webos fridge, and in-car system :D Oct 06 01:32:14 html5 application bundles Oct 06 01:32:36 yeah, big problem with jini was the stupid rmiregistry and out of band classloader Oct 06 01:32:46 it was pretty awesome stuff though Oct 06 01:33:50 HP still hooked up with Disney to do weird stuff? Oct 06 01:56:45 that's airplay iirc Oct 06 02:01:03 ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 06 02:59:57 2010