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Oct 06 04:14:46 <summatusmentis> has anyone tried setting up a "palm server" on your personally run hardware?
Oct 06 04:14:57 <summatusmentis> running your own "cloud"
Oct 06 04:15:08 <summatusmentis> is that even remotely possible?
Oct 06 04:47:08 <Gu1l7y_work> Does anyone know how to take a screenshot of a pdk app? All I get is black images...
Oct 06 04:47:54 <rwhitby> easy way: take it in card view.  harder way - maximise and shoot quickly.  hardest way - program it into your app.
Oct 06 04:48:18 <Gu1l7y_work> lol @ option 2
Oct 06 04:48:34 <rwhitby> apparently it works
Oct 06 04:48:56 <Gu1l7y_work> I'm guessing your talking about maximising it and taking the pic, while its still in a frozen state?
Oct 06 04:50:59 <rwhitby> there's a post about it on the developer forums
Oct 06 04:52:08 <Gu1l7y_work> k thx
Oct 06 05:24:34 <xbonesx> ive installed the sdk and virtualbox on ubuntu 10.04, how do i load the sdk in VB?
Oct 06 05:31:04 <xbonesx> oh sry missed the topic header sry
Oct 06 06:50:05 <snang-> RAWR
Oct 06 12:34:20 <swisstomcat> afternoon
Oct 06 19:37:59 <summatusmentis> so, the apps that are put out under "homebrew", does that mean they will never be in the app catalog?
Oct 06 19:39:15 <swisstomcat> it can be
Oct 06 19:39:29 <swisstomcat> just use an unique app-id for the homebrew variant
Oct 06 19:39:41 <summatusmentis> so what does the "homebrew" nomenclature mean?
Oct 06 19:39:47 <swisstomcat> otherwise you'll end up with troubles if you have it as homebrew and catalog at some point
Oct 06 19:40:06 <summatusmentis> is homebrew just "without official SDK"?
Oct 06 19:41:41 <swisstomcat> not really
Oct 06 19:41:50 <swisstomcat> usually it's because you're using "inofficial" APIs
Oct 06 19:41:55 <swisstomcat> or stuff like that
Oct 06 19:42:16 <summatusmentis> so things that have been found, but aren't available within the SDK?
Oct 06 19:44:53 <swisstomcat> or not allowed
Oct 06 19:45:18 <swisstomcat> or if your app comes with a service
Oct 06 19:45:31 <swisstomcat> basically everything that's not allowed in the official catalog
Oct 06 19:48:02 <summatusmentis> hrm
Oct 06 19:50:10 <swisstomcat> why?
Oct 06 19:53:46 <summatusmentis> I was just curious
Oct 06 19:54:08 <summatusmentis> I didn't know if there was a special webos-internals process for being included in "homebrew"
Oct 06 19:54:31 <summatusmentis> I saw precentral making the distinction between app store apps and homebrew apps
Oct 06 19:59:39 <swisstomcat> webos-internals is hosting the homebrews apps on their feeds
Oct 06 20:00:34 <summatusmentis> ooh
Oct 06 20:00:37 <summatusmentis> that makes sense
Oct 06 20:45:40 <solly> hello?
Oct 06 22:01:25 <destrudo> hmm
Oct 06 22:06:26 <destrudo> anyone aware of a webos mpd client or do I fly with the pitchfork?
Oct 07 01:36:20 <KittyHeather> has anyone ever gotten the pre plus to use headphones as the earpiece to make phone calls, but use the phones mic for the microphone part of it?
Oct 07 01:36:44 <SineOt> pretty sure you can do that by using headphones without a microphone in them
Oct 07 01:37:23 <SineOt> actually I know you can because I do that in my car all the time
Oct 07 01:37:23 <SineOt> with my Pixi plugged into the cassette deck via adapter
Oct 07 01:37:24 <halfhalo> KittyHeather: Yeah, its awkward, but doable
Oct 07 01:37:27 <KittyHeather> the thing is, my phone seems to do that
Oct 07 01:37:36 <SineOt> calls play through the speakers and the phone operates in speakerphone mode
Oct 07 01:38:03 <KittyHeather> but when it's plugged in to my car stereo (has 3.5 mm jack) like 95% of the time it shunts the call to the speakerphone
Oct 07 01:38:11 <KittyHeather> could it because of patches I have installed?
Oct 07 01:38:46 <SineOt> doubtful but always possible
Oct 07 01:39:04 <KittyHeather> I have a P101EWW for reference
Oct 07 01:39:22 <SineOt> of course, it might just be the headphone jack acting up
Oct 07 01:39:30 <KittyHeather> in two weeks though?
Oct 07 01:43:05 <KittyHeather> what I have happen is this:
Oct 07 01:43:14 <KittyHeather> A) I plug in and start up Pandora, then start driving
Oct 07 01:43:36 <KittyHeather> B) Get a phone call, hit Send and it ports it to the speakerphone
Oct 07 01:44:06 <KittyHeather> C) Finish the call, audio cable still plugged in, and as soon as I hang up music starts up again through the car sterreo
Oct 07 01:44:35 <KittyHeather> once in awhile it'll do the whole thing through the stereo, making a nice handsfree system
Oct 07 01:45:11 <SineOt> hm
Oct 07 01:45:27 <SineOt> do you have a patch for speakerphone by proximity sensor?
Oct 07 01:45:35 <KittyHeather> Yeah, let me look which one
Oct 07 01:45:43 <SineOt> that'd be why then
Oct 07 01:45:59 <SineOt> when connected to headphones without a mic, you still have the option of moving it over entirely to speakerphone
Oct 07 01:46:21 <KittyHeather> so i have to shut down that patch and manually hit speaker every time?
Oct 07 01:46:39 <SineOt> if you want it to function as a handsfree in the car, yes
Oct 07 01:46:42 <KittyHeather> I put it on so that when I have to look up something on the phone while talking it automatically goes to speakerphone
Oct 07 01:46:52 <KittyHeather> oh well
Oct 07 01:47:06 <SineOt> what I'd recommend is getting sconix's Advanced System Preferences Patch
Oct 07 01:47:14 <KittyHeather> hmm
Oct 07 01:47:17 <SineOt> it gives you a toggle to use for making it auto go to speakerphone or not
Oct 07 01:47:25 <SineOt> which would be easier than adding/removing the patch all the time
Oct 07 01:47:51 <KittyHeather> is it in preware?
Oct 07 01:48:02 * SineOt nudges sconix, "It'd be awesome to see ModeSwitcher get the ability to adjust settings like that in Advanced Launcher and Advanced System"
Oct 07 01:48:03 <SineOt> yes
Oct 07 01:48:37 * KittyHeather hunts
Oct 07 01:49:26 <SineOt> my dream driving mode: launcher large icons, small grid, speakerphone proximity disabled~
Oct 07 01:49:38 <SineOt> also, if you don't already use ModeSwitcher, it's an awesome app
Oct 07 01:50:20 <KittyHeather> my dream driving mode: a charger that puts out more than 500mA power ... my GPS and Pandora drain about 550 mA
Oct 07 01:50:21 <SineOt> I have a driving mode which sets the media volume to about 66%, mutes email notifications, opens Slacker Radio when the phone is connected to a wall charger and a headset is plugged in
Oct 07 01:50:39 <SineOt> what charger do you have right now?
Oct 07 01:50:47 <KittyHeather> the one that came with it
Oct 07 01:50:52 <KittyHeather> i'm looking at a new one now
Oct 07 01:50:58 <SineOt> it came with a car charger?
Oct 07 01:51:08 <KittyHeather> oh, no
Oct 07 01:51:22 <KittyHeather> my car stereo has one, but I think it only puts out like 400 mA
Oct 07 01:51:41 <KittyHeather> http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Use-Vehicle-Charger-Ports-Sockets/dp/B000PB8CQI/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_ttl_ex - I'm looking at this one, but I want to know what the USB ports put out
Oct 07 01:52:25 <KittyHeather> My boss' Samsung puts out 700 mA from the wall charger, which turns out to be perfect
Oct 07 01:52:33 <SineOt> here, check this out: http://bit.ly/9cnlrT
Oct 07 01:52:36 <SineOt> I think that's the right link
Oct 07 01:52:38 <KittyHeather> but the Palm one only does 500
Oct 07 01:52:48 <SineOt> er, nope, this one http://bit.ly/9cnIrT
Oct 07 01:52:52 <halfhalo> I actually use a zune car charger for mine and it works great
Oct 07 01:53:07 <halfhalo> Provides enough power for the zune and the phone at the same time
Oct 07 01:53:11 <SineOt> I use the Sprint branded "Palm supported" car charger, it's nice.
Oct 07 01:53:18 <SineOt> It was also cheap. :p
Oct 07 01:53:22 <halfhalo> I had one of those, it broke
Oct 07 01:53:34 <halfhalo> I have many palm palm chargers as well
Oct 07 01:53:40 <halfhalo> but I got those for the cords
Oct 07 01:53:49 <SineOt> But yeah that second link, KittyHeather, is a verizon 1A car charger, case, and touchstone for 14.98$, which is a killer deal
Oct 07 01:54:00 <KittyHeather> wow, yeah
Oct 07 01:54:35 <SineOt> the charger is decent, it's got a second USB port to charge other things and it should be enough to charge your phone off of
Oct 07 01:54:41 <SineOt> since it'll power a touchstone
Oct 07 01:55:37 <KittyHeather> i'll keep it in mind
Oct 07 01:55:49 <SineOt> it's worth it even if all you get from it is the touchstone :p
Oct 07 01:55:51 <KittyHeather> still got to work out the yahoo messenger issues
Oct 07 01:55:57 <SineOt> because 14$ for the touchstone is awesome
Oct 07 01:56:11 * KittyHeather nodnods
Oct 07 01:57:00 <SineOt> do you have one already?
Oct 07 01:57:06 <KittyHeather> nope
Oct 07 01:57:29 <KittyHeather> I got a few dollar store micro usb cables since I kept losing mine, that and software is all I've gotten so far
Oct 07 01:57:30 <SineOt> it's the best part of owning a palm phone :o
Oct 07 01:59:08 <KittyHeather> i'll keep it in mind
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