**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 12 02:59:57 2010 Oct 12 03:13:00 * scoutcamper hopes that more droid developers come to pre/pixi Oct 12 03:13:42 * uNiXpSyChO not gonna happen Oct 12 03:14:39 really? Oct 12 03:14:51 why? Oct 12 03:18:10 god lord a 1ghz Pixi would be insane Oct 12 03:19:11 Pre developers are defecting to Android. that is a cruel fact. Oct 12 05:50:09 yay, 1.4.5 finally landed for the ATT Pixi Oct 12 05:50:17 orly Oct 12 05:50:26 got a doctor link? Oct 12 05:51:12 not handy, but here's the release notes for it http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/pixi/pixi/att/solutions/article/51452_en.html#145 Oct 12 05:58:40 oop, found it Oct 12 05:58:44 rwhitby: http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pixiplus/px145r0d08302010/attp145rod/webosdoctorp121ewwatt.jar Oct 12 05:58:59 er, wrong link. this one http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pixiplus/px145r0d10112010/attp145rod/webosdoctorp121ewwatt.jar Oct 12 05:59:11 got it Oct 12 10:21:21 I wanted to us one of the webos-internals Tux images in my app. My app is a game and I have a shoutbox feature. I want to use tux to symbolise game users coming from webOS. Is it ok to use one of your images? Oct 12 10:22:50 nige, wait for rwhitby to answer that question...he could be around in a little bit Oct 12 10:23:00 if not come back in 10hrs Oct 12 10:23:40 ok. will do. Oct 12 10:24:03 but hang out here as thats the best place to get your answer. Oct 12 10:24:35 cool. i'll keep the tab open. Oct 12 10:52:07 nige: g'day Oct 12 10:52:31 I always forget to switch to this channel... Oct 12 10:52:52 I don't have anything useful to say, I just like reading this channel Oct 12 10:55:10 hello rwhitby Oct 12 11:07:27 so is it possible to use one your tux images in my game. the game will be sold on the app catalog, app store, ovi, etc. Oct 12 11:07:58 players from different platforms will be signified by a platform icon in the game's chatroom/shoutbox Oct 12 11:08:43 i want to use one of your tuxes because it will look cool for webos Oct 12 11:21:01 webos should have its own mascot ... tux is cool and everything, but that just says the player is on linux Oct 12 11:41:58 nige: sorry, was away from keyboard. Oct 12 11:42:57 nige: what is the game? Oct 12 11:44:38 nige: and how big do you need the icon to be? Oct 12 11:47:38 the game is bubble puzzle. you can get bubble puzzle lite for free at the web catalog. I'm doing a big upgrade, part of which is a new chatroom feature and reason for icon. Oct 12 11:48:48 i meant you can get it at the palm webos app catalog Oct 12 11:49:01 nige: http://www.webos-internals.org/images/a/af/Tux.png can be used for that such a purpose Oct 12 11:52:23 nearly there. is it possible to use this little fellow http://www.webos-internals.org/images/4/48/Tux_with_Pre.png Oct 12 11:55:31 yeah, we can do that Oct 12 12:05:55 cool. thanks alot. tip of the day from me: use webkitTransform:"scale(0.75)"}) instead of body.style.zoom = 0.75 to scale games for diff screens. no choppiness with former. works great in webos. Oct 12 14:56:04 could someone help me with transfering files using novacom on ubuntu? Oct 12 14:56:11 novaterm, sry Oct 12 15:00:04 I can get too root of the device, but then im unable to execute "mv" to a directory on my pc... Oct 12 15:11:07 howto enable jabber? Oct 12 15:14:55 how do services interact with "client" html/js stuff? Oct 12 15:24:38 Does anyone know how to transfer files from a device that runs linux, that you have rooted too? I'm at the root of the device, but i want to "mv" a file to my pc... Oct 12 15:24:59 using novaterm Oct 12 15:28:02 xbonesx: do you have the pdk installed? Oct 12 15:28:43 nova-browser works great for that sort of thing Oct 12 15:28:46 like the emulator? Oct 12 15:28:55 novabrowser? Oct 12 15:29:03 is it in the synaptic? Oct 12 15:29:33 no, it's included with the pdk Oct 12 15:30:07 i have the sdk of 1.4.5 downloaded, are you referring to this? Oct 12 15:30:25 hopefully i will get accepted for webos 2.0 still waiting confirmation Oct 12 15:30:40 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=1850&Itemid=20 Oct 12 15:30:43 pdk Oct 12 15:31:23 when creating an app for pre-ware, can you require dependencies, and have them installed by default? Oct 12 15:32:04 Loudergood: doesnt the sdk come with the pdk? Oct 12 15:32:10 said on the website Oct 12 15:32:13 ? Oct 12 15:32:48 huh..apparently it does include that installer Oct 12 15:33:03 it may be a seperate installer that you have to run though Oct 12 15:35:32 Loudergood: ok and what exactly will this let me do? Oct 12 15:36:20 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1938 Oct 12 15:36:47 about halfway down Oct 12 15:41:00 Loudergood: lol i have quickinstall, totally forgot, ill just use that Oct 12 15:55:57 afternoon Oct 12 18:48:18 hello all. I need help with a preware proble, Oct 12 18:48:38 and aparently a typing problem too :) Oct 12 18:48:52 we can help with preware, not so much with the typing Oct 12 18:49:10 although I have heard good things about elecroshock therapy for that Oct 12 18:49:15 hehe Oct 12 18:49:28 mavis bacon Oct 12 18:49:29 a pleware ploblem .. no ploblem Oct 12 18:49:46 thanks. I'm trying to look through the items in the ALL catagory... specifically in time view ... under OLDER Oct 12 18:50:58 I'm using a sprint pixi, and I have 5.5 GB of 8 free... I just purged all the logs, and cleaned out browser history, cookies and cache to make sure this isnt a memory problem. Oct 12 18:52:03 after I get past say the 1000th of 5000 apps in the catalog, it starts poping the "Sorry, too many cards" dealy.... probably because its pulling down and caching all those icons. Oct 12 18:52:31 Even after a fresh reboot, with no other cards running.... Oct 12 18:54:10 So when I finally find something I want to install, it cant of course because it cant open the palm store..... basically I have to make a list of apps with pen and paper, and then close and reopen preware, go to all, and type each name to get the apps I want. Oct 12 18:54:34 sounds like a bug to me Oct 12 18:55:20 it is either a memory leak in preware, or caching all those icons in the catalog is eating all the available memory. Oct 12 18:55:39 it's all oil's fault ;) Oct 12 18:55:51 * oilsworkn hides Oct 12 18:55:51 the pixi is a bit memory constrained Oct 12 18:55:58 pixi or pixi plus? Oct 12 18:56:10 oooh I just had an idea to see if its the icon problem..... Oct 12 18:56:27 solution: turn off catalog feed in preware Oct 12 18:56:33 use catalog for catalog, use preware for homebrew Oct 12 18:56:43 yeah, good point Oct 12 18:57:03 I'm going airplane mode.. to see if it is downloading the icons in real time or if the are already pulled as part of the feed. Oct 12 18:57:28 it downloads as you view that row Oct 12 18:57:52 when does it release the memory used by it tho? Oct 12 18:57:54 only the url is in the feed Oct 12 18:58:06 its not that smart about it Oct 12 18:58:42 then there is my memory hog! Oct 12 18:58:53 so I have a thought on a possible solution...... Oct 12 18:58:58 yeah, remove the catalog feed Oct 12 18:59:21 thats always the solution! Oct 12 18:59:36 is there any way to allow "expand by time period"... or view feeds by time period rather than by category? Oct 12 18:59:38 lol ;] Oct 12 18:59:51 no there is not Oct 12 19:00:01 I want to look through both to "mine" for cool apps tho. Oct 12 19:00:31 ok then: FEATURE REQUEST --- sort all by month! Oct 12 19:00:57 and he jettisons! Oct 12 19:01:13 lol Oct 12 19:03:00 I'm going to try turning on airplane mode, then scrolling down to where I left off in my hunt through the feed, and then turn airplane mode back off.... should be ok as a workaround.... Oct 12 19:03:45 additional feature request: release icons when they are past some how..... Oct 12 19:04:52 I have great reverence for all the hard work done on this (I am a LAMP Dev/sql Admin --- so I know the ammount of work to just get it working in the first place) Oct 12 19:11:25 it does appear to cache some of them... probably recently loaded icons..... as I get close to where I left off in the list some of the icons are already populated, even with airplane mode on... Oct 12 19:11:58 and it is still letting me launch other apps/cards, and no warning about too many cards.... Oct 12 19:22:19 that will work... thanks for your time. Oct 12 20:34:56 the gps and acm/dun passthrough options... would it take hacking of the kernel drivers to get them working on linux? Oct 12 21:21:33 Hey, can anyone offer me some help with Govnah? I know this isn't, technically, the site, but everyone here seems to offer the best advice. Oct 12 21:21:47 what site? Oct 12 21:21:47 I'm sure someone can help Oct 12 21:22:18 Well, I installed Govnah and Uberkernel. Oct 12 21:22:32 However, i want to unistall both. Oct 12 21:22:43 I was curious about how to go about this. Oct 12 21:22:48 just uninstall them through Preware, same as you installed them Oct 12 21:22:52 yup Oct 12 21:23:07 * halfhalo didn't know there was a site dedicaed to govnah Oct 12 21:23:22 govnah.com Oct 12 21:23:25 out of curiosity why do you want to uninstall them? Oct 12 21:23:29 Okay, that's what I thought, however, in Preware, there's a kernel called "Palm Kernel" --do I need to install this..? Oct 12 21:23:34 no, thats not it, lol Oct 12 21:24:20 halfhalo: people think precentral.net is the website for everything Oct 12 21:24:39 * halfhalo doesn't consider p|c a site, more of a hive of scum and stupidity Oct 12 21:24:40 oilsworkn: it's sad but that entire site is probably lifted from somewhere else :( Oct 12 21:24:54 what site? Oct 12 21:25:42 And I want to uninstall them because everytime I re-set my divice, the Frequency reads as "1GHz" and the Profile reads "Unknown." I know that you must re-select the kernel you want after a reset, but what scares me, is, I was using a 500/800MHz Screenstate. Why would it be saying 1GHz?? It bugs me, so I'd like to remove it, and perhaps try the F102A Delta Dagger KErnal (I heard it sticks after reboots). Oct 12 21:26:33 Yeah, the people at precentral are pretty ridicules, they couldn't answer this question; infact, they just answer everything but what I ask. Oct 12 21:26:53 govnah.com, lol Oct 12 21:27:03 oh, i didn't actually go to it Oct 12 21:27:27 * oilsworkn wonders if ted___ == fixxxer Oct 12 21:27:37 Pardon? Oct 12 21:27:45 nothing ;) Oct 12 21:27:54 ...okay. Oct 12 21:28:04 ignore him, its past his bedtime Oct 12 21:28:05 ANyway, can someone offer me the answers to my questions? Oct 12 21:28:11 Ted___: honestly? that's kind of one of those things that's like, uh Oct 12 21:28:15 "deal with it" Oct 12 21:28:31 and just reset it to screenstate 500/800 when you reset the device Oct 12 21:28:36 (which shouldn't be often) Oct 12 21:28:39 But is my divice really running at 1GHz, or is it jsut mis-reading? Oct 12 21:28:55 That's what bothers me :c Oct 12 21:28:56 govnah only displays what is reported Oct 12 21:29:25 But why would it report 1GHz if I never overclocked to it? Oct 12 21:29:43 because you have a kernel that can oc to it? Oct 12 21:29:45 * halfhalo dunnos Oct 12 21:30:02 didn't uNiXpSyChO explain that in the thread? Oct 12 21:30:05 why are you resetting the phone often enough for this to be a problem? Oct 12 21:30:51 But I only did it too 500/800. Even if I can clock too 500/1000, I never set it. Although, this is what I though. Oct 12 21:30:58 And, it bothers me because I'm OCD =/ Oct 12 21:31:18 "why are you resetting the phone often enough for this to be a problem?" Oct 12 21:31:39 Because after a reset, I noticed it, and my OCD/anal attitude kicked in. Oct 12 21:31:54 I also though it was a bug, that could affect me in the long run. Oct 12 21:31:54 after one reset? after 2? after 20? Oct 12 21:32:02 It's done it every time. Oct 12 21:32:03 if it's after one reset, just set it back to 500/800 Oct 12 21:32:15 I reset after most pdk games and after taking video. don't you? Oct 12 21:32:20 well yeah, and that rolls back to "why are you resetting it that often" Oct 12 21:32:27 I haven't reset my Pixi in probably uh Oct 12 21:32:29 a month and a half :I Oct 12 21:32:39 I don't know, I was just concerned, mate! Oct 12 21:32:57 last time my phone reset, it was accidential pocket reset Oct 12 21:33:11 If it's no biggie, and simply Govnah reporting the highest clock possible until I set my preferred, it doesn't bother me. Oct 12 21:34:43 yeah, I'd just set it back to 500/800 after a reset and not worry about it Oct 12 21:34:58 if there was a problem with running it at 1000, you'd have noticed it, because they tend to get pretty... odd Oct 12 21:35:31 Alright, thanks! Oct 12 21:35:40 But that brings me to the next question. Oct 12 21:35:53 What's the most stable build for overclocking? Oct 12 21:36:04 uberkernel Oct 12 21:36:21 Okay, so no F102A Delta Dagger? Oct 12 21:36:24 Yeah, uberkernel Oct 12 21:36:32 What's the difference? Oct 12 21:36:40 uk allows you to use govnah to change the settings Oct 12 21:36:45 others are locked to something specific Oct 12 21:36:58 Uberkernel is considered the "stable" build that has the fancy stuff from other testing kernels that work rolled into it Oct 12 21:37:10 Okay! Oct 12 21:37:20 What's the "Pal Kernel" thing that's on Preware, then? Oct 12 21:37:26 Palm* Oct 12 21:37:34 the stock kernel Oct 12 21:37:36 its the palm kernel Oct 12 21:37:38 lol Oct 12 21:37:42 if you manage to somehow screw stuff up real bad Oct 12 21:38:12 But if you uninstall Govnah and Uberkernel doesn't the device reset itself to stock? Oct 12 21:38:21 yes Oct 12 21:38:38 it should at least Oct 12 21:38:39 Then what's the point of having it on PReware? Just a backup incase? Oct 12 21:38:46 yes Oct 12 21:38:50 Alright! Oct 12 21:38:52 when govnah starts, it just randomly picks values to display Oct 12 21:39:12 Wait, it randomly picks values to display? Oct 12 21:39:28 that was a joke :/ Oct 12 21:39:42 Sorry, I'm new to Overclocking. Oct 12 21:39:44 :p Oct 12 21:39:55 Okay, one more question for you guys. Oct 12 21:40:49 When I installed Govnah (after uninstalling it) I peeked into the Profiles, and the same profiles were there that were there when I had Uberkernel installed, however, (at this point) I didn't have Uberkernel installed What's up with that? Oct 12 21:41:15 profiles are in govnah Oct 12 21:41:29 govnah is self container Oct 12 21:41:32 contained* Oct 12 21:41:35 not part of the kernel Oct 12 21:41:41 simply allows you to make changes to said kernel Oct 12 21:42:13 govnah is basically an easy way to do what normally would take the command line Oct 12 21:42:29 So, the profiles in Govnah are pre-made. Oct 12 21:42:36 And the kernel still needs to be installed? Oct 12 21:42:41 the predefined ones, yes Oct 12 21:42:48 Makes sense! Oct 12 21:42:56 Okay, so what's the best profile? Oct 12 21:43:06 hard to say Oct 12 21:43:08 I think 500/100 is overkill for myself. Oct 12 21:43:11 depends on a lot of factors Oct 12 21:43:45 500/1000 is actually pretty nice. PDK apps run amazingly well Oct 12 21:43:49 If I give you said factors, do you think you could help me pick the best for myself? Oct 12 21:43:56 Because I've been finding it hard. Oct 12 21:44:05 "PDK Apps?" Oct 12 21:44:23 :/ Oct 12 21:44:33 Games like Angry Birds, stuff like that Oct 12 21:44:43 M'kayy Oct 12 21:45:19 So, for running apps like Music Player (Remix)/Pandora/Quake/SuperNES and durrfing the web, what profile should I use? Oct 12 21:45:40 surfing* Oct 12 21:45:52 last time i durrfed the web, i woke up in the tub missing a kidney Oct 12 21:46:06 lol Oct 12 21:46:14 if you want them to be fast? just go with 500/1000 Oct 12 21:46:22 it's stable and the battery drain isn't that much worse Oct 12 21:47:32 What I'm concerned about is my battery life and the overall life of the phone (I need it to last 2 years, just recently got it). Oct 12 21:48:57 what carrier are you on? Oct 12 21:49:12 I know Overclocking will always shorten the lifespan of a device, but which won;t do it rediculesly fast? Oct 12 21:49:15 And, AT&T. Oct 12 21:53:43 Hello? Oct 12 21:53:46 hi Oct 12 21:54:14 it depends really on the individual phones, it's hard to say what would cut lifespan faster because what might kill one chip in a day won't kill another for 10 years Oct 12 21:54:52 Well, givin the apps I mentioned, which would you recommend? Oct 12 21:55:14 Or, if it's to hard to say, would it be better to use a Fixed state, ro a Screenstate? Oct 12 21:55:16 Quake/SuperNES (and other PDK games from the catalog), the faster the better Oct 12 21:55:30 * oilsworkn prefers screenstate Oct 12 21:55:36 screenstate would be preferred Oct 12 21:55:38 no need to be overclocking whilst its not in use Oct 12 21:55:51 Okay! Oct 12 21:56:05 So now I'm down to the 5--/800 or the 500/1000. Oct 12 21:56:25 If I 500/1000 I can compete with the New Pre 2! lol But I still think it's a bit overkill. Oct 12 21:56:30 you cna make your own... Oct 12 21:56:36 WOAH Oct 12 21:56:37 * oilsworkn personally runs 500/720 screenstate Oct 12 21:56:39 WAT Oct 12 21:56:47 I do not know how to make my own. Oct 12 21:56:49 :c Oct 12 21:56:54 I'm such a "n00b." Oct 12 21:59:20 Uhm, what are the benifits of making my own? Oct 12 21:59:31 You can tailor it to whatever you want Oct 12 21:59:43 I did that with my Pixi... Kind of Oct 12 21:59:56 I'm not familiar with any of it. Oct 12 21:59:59 Like, at all. Oct 12 22:00:03 enabled compcache, set it to be less wary of upping the speed so it would throttle up quicker Oct 12 22:00:07 So I think I'll stick to the premade profiles. Oct 12 22:00:33 probably a good idea Oct 12 22:01:28 Indeed, Oct 12 22:01:47 So, back to the choice of 500/800 or 500/1000. Oct 12 22:01:54 So many choices! lol Oct 12 22:04:08 I think I'll settle for 500/800. Oct 12 22:04:21 Simply because I'm not looking to overkill. Oct 12 22:05:14 I'd say go all out with 500/1000 Oct 12 22:05:23 and if you find that your battery life suffers too much for your tastes Oct 12 22:05:26 drop to 500/800 Oct 12 22:05:51 Maybe after a few months on 500/800, no need to go all out right off the bat. Oct 12 22:06:24 Nevertheless, I just want to thank you guys, AGAIN; you've helped me so much with all my questions, now, and in the past. Oct 12 22:06:44 Precentral always hops around the question, and reminds me there was a post already made about it. Oct 12 22:06:45 :c Oct 12 22:07:08 lol Oct 12 22:07:12 what jerks Oct 12 22:07:28 I mean, some users are good. Oct 12 22:07:41 But, for example, I went to the Govnah thread with these questions. Oct 12 22:08:00 And the dev. litterally told me: "If you look through this thread I'm sure you'll find the answer." Oct 12 22:08:07 With it's 57 pages. Oct 12 22:08:13 heh Oct 12 22:08:17 what is your username on precentral? Oct 12 22:08:31 tedthebassist Oct 12 22:08:41 Why do you ask? Oct 12 22:08:51 curious Oct 12 22:09:23 Eh, I just joined. Oct 12 22:09:55 I got some questions answered, but, this is where all my big problems get fixed. Thanks again guys! Oct 12 22:11:11 So what do you guys do to save battery? Oct 12 22:14:16 Ted___: turn off gps Oct 12 22:14:23 lowest screen brightness Oct 12 22:14:32 quckest screen-off setting Oct 12 22:14:49 uninstall apps that do things in the background Oct 12 22:15:19 I have reduced minimum brightness to 5, GPS off, Blutooth off, WiFi on (at home), Screen Shutoff at 30 secs...is there anything else I can so? Oct 12 22:15:41 thats about what i got Oct 12 22:15:44 Do weather apps do things in the background? Oct 12 22:15:48 though i keep wifi on all day (got it at work and home) Oct 12 22:15:56 idk, depends on which app Oct 12 22:16:06 I don't have WiFi at highchool :p Oct 12 22:16:06 my battery lasts all day Oct 12 22:16:15 when i get off, im at like 70-80% Oct 12 22:16:30 And I use AccuWeather. Oct 12 22:16:39 I get like two days on my Pixi lol :x Oct 12 22:16:42 i could be wrong, but i dont think that one polls in the background Oct 12 22:16:57 well, and you gotta give it a month or so after getting it for your usage to slow down Oct 12 22:17:05 where you're not turning it on and thumbing through it every 10 seconds Oct 12 22:17:06 lol Oct 12 22:17:14 the biggest thing is that I set up a mode switcher mode called "sleep" that turns off data, puts the screen brightness at the lowest, etc Oct 12 22:17:35 and yeah, I just get in the habit of using the power button to lock the screen instead of waiting for it to go to sleep on its own Oct 12 22:17:49 Same here, as far as the screen goes. Oct 12 22:17:58 i usually hit hte power button before sticking it in my pocket Oct 12 22:18:05 I just ran a recan/restart luna/restart java. Oct 12 22:18:17 well Oct 12 22:18:22 rescan is going to leave your pre in a weird state Oct 12 22:18:28 (thats been broken for a while) Oct 12 22:18:30 dont rescan Oct 12 22:18:36 Oh man. Oct 12 22:18:36 oh, oops Oct 12 22:18:38 I did. Oct 12 22:18:43 But then I luna restarted. Oct 12 22:18:45 it kills some built-in apps Oct 12 22:18:49 I rescanned earlier because some of my apps had missing icons Oct 12 22:18:54 i dont remember if luna restart fixes the rescan problem Oct 12 22:18:54 like what, oilsworkn Oct 12 22:19:04 And then I Java restarted. Oct 12 22:19:04 my month of uptime ;_; Oct 12 22:19:24 like, you may not get notified of txts Oct 12 22:19:25 or missed calles Oct 12 22:19:37 or starting email/sms will present you with the "you've never used this" screen Oct 12 22:19:40 I thought it would be a good idear, figuring all the reintalling of govnah I've done. Oct 12 22:19:45 thats why we moved preware away from rescan Oct 12 22:19:45 How can I fix it!? Oct 12 22:19:53 ;_; Oct 12 22:20:05 i think luna restart clears it out Oct 12 22:20:10 but worst case, reboot the phone Oct 12 22:20:15 Well, I did that right after. Oct 12 22:20:39 idk, start email and see if it tells you you have no addresses setup Oct 12 22:20:43 (thats where i usually saw it) Oct 12 22:21:10 Bah, I'll just restart the phone xD Oct 12 22:21:13 lol Oct 12 22:21:44 What's the common boot time for the pre? Oct 12 22:21:49 Is a minute to much? Oct 12 22:21:56 Hours Oct 12 22:22:11 lol Oct 12 22:22:12 C'mon, really, though? Oct 12 22:22:45 couple minutes Oct 12 22:22:46 Yeah, a minute is in the range, slightly faster than normal though Oct 12 22:22:55 but that's par for most smart phones Oct 12 22:23:10 they're not built to be turned on and off all the time, but instead just put to sleep Oct 12 22:23:10 M'kay, I thought my patches might have affected it. Oct 12 22:23:21 * oilsworkn usually does it then pockets it and forgets Oct 12 22:23:36 I keep forgetting that Linux cleans up after itself. Oct 12 22:23:41 yeah Oct 12 22:23:44 its not windows xD Oct 12 22:23:46 It's not like the stupid iOS which just piles up data D: Oct 12 22:24:10 My iPod Touch is jailbroken, and I have to restore it SO MUCH because it just piles data. Oct 12 22:24:13 It's horrible. Oct 12 22:24:54 really? Oct 12 22:25:01 running what version of iOS? Oct 12 22:28:22 I'm on 3.1.2 Oct 12 22:28:44 Because I'm far to lazy to uptade and rejailbreak. Oct 12 22:28:57 I've got a first gen iPod touch that's been jailbroken... since it released, running 3.something, and I can't say I've ever had that problem :p Oct 12 22:29:12 Do you do a lot of SHH file swaping? Oct 12 22:29:44 Ulinke me with the Pre, where I'm fairly new, I'm really good with the iPod :P Oct 12 22:29:54 So I like to push my lock. Oct 12 22:29:56 luck* Oct 12 22:30:12 no, but I'd have to ask "why" :p Oct 12 22:30:22 kicks Oct 12 22:30:30 SSH is a easy way to get ROMs on and off of the divice. Oct 12 22:30:35 As well as changing the GUI. Oct 12 22:31:18 you said shh first and i was like "hm?" Oct 12 22:31:38 SHH files are really quiet Oct 12 22:31:42 it's hard to tell when they swap Oct 12 22:31:51 Indeed. Oct 12 22:35:55 But when using a larger ROM, like a PSX, it likes to hang around. Oct 12 22:36:04 SSHing a PSX file took 7 hours. Oct 12 22:36:07 :'( Oct 12 22:36:22 which is why I'd probably just do it over USB instead of the wifi :) Oct 12 22:36:30 and cut SSH out of the picture entirely Oct 12 22:37:10 Is there a USB alternative to SSHing? Oct 12 22:38:12 http://www.macroplant.com/phonedisk/ :p Oct 12 22:38:49 I use Windows! Oct 12 22:38:58 Shutup Oct 12 22:39:02 I read it wrong xD Oct 12 22:39:05 xxxD Oct 12 22:39:11 Yeah you did :3 Oct 12 22:39:12 I'm so old school when it comes to my iPod. Oct 12 22:39:31 there's like a billion apps out there that do that though Oct 12 22:39:54 But does this allow you to see completely into the device's system? Oct 12 22:39:59 yup Oct 12 22:40:17 all they are are just interfaces between your computer and the HFS+ filesystem on the device Oct 12 22:40:25 which is why disk mode isn't in them to begin with Oct 12 22:40:39 there's no decent windows HFS+ driver and Apple doesn't want to write one Oct 12 22:40:58 even their Bootcamp HFS+ driver is read only and doesn't support most of the metadata Oct 12 22:42:32 Hmm...I'll look into it. Oct 12 22:42:40 I still have SSH all set up on my pc, though. Oct 12 22:42:55 BUt if I ever end up restoring, which I will, I'll switch over to this for sure. Oct 12 22:42:57 *faved Oct 12 23:02:01 So, are there any patches you really like? Oct 12 23:29:51 http://twitter.com/warthogkernel/statuses/27182897493 Oct 12 23:30:39 I'm already membooting it, jhojho ;3 Oct 12 23:44:24 hmm, well that didn't go too well Oct 12 23:44:53 trying to switch back to govnah to see if it was throttling upwards while running sunspider triggered a luna restart (or a full restart, can't really tell) Oct 12 23:52:50 although that was at the 897mhz point so I think it's probably far more an issue with that than anything Oct 12 23:55:24 cant be 897 Oct 12 23:55:30 this one is clamped to 748 Oct 12 23:57:23 you sure? it just membooted uImage-v16 again so let me check what Govnah reports Oct 12 23:58:01 yeah, this is reporting 748, 787, 806, 897 in Govnah Oct 12 23:58:11 as being valid choices Oct 12 23:58:24 oops Oct 12 23:58:32 you should not be using that Oct 12 23:58:51 that's what got posted to twitter ;p Oct 12 23:59:27 not anymore Oct 12 23:59:35 :3 Oct 13 00:04:26 jhojho: running sunspider in another card, my Pixi is sitting at 41C@806mhz! Oct 13 00:04:46 its not going to be accurate Oct 13 00:04:57 temperature readings borked? Oct 13 00:04:59 govnah needs to be closed Oct 13 00:05:23 oh, you mean sunspider won't be accurate? Oct 13 00:05:53