**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 17 02:59:58 2010
Oct 17 03:19:23 <rwhitby> morning
Oct 17 03:19:36 <halfhalo> morning
Oct 17 04:07:52 <lordbah> Anyone about who works on EPR?
Oct 17 04:08:37 <KittyHeather> Does anyone have a pin diagram for the TSSR headset connecter on the Pre Plus?\
Oct 17 04:16:03 <rwhitby> TSSR?
Oct 17 04:16:56 <KittyHeather> the headset jack on the top of the phone ...
Oct 17 04:17:16 <KittyHeather> I'm not sure exactly what they call it, but what I read so far described it as that
Oct 17 04:19:11 <SineOt> tip sleeve sleeve ring
Oct 17 04:19:33 <SineOt> tsr/tip sleeve ring is standard stereo mini, tssr/tip sleeve sleeve ring adds a microphone
Oct 17 04:20:27 <rwhitby> http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/237453-headset-circuit-pinout.html
Oct 17 04:25:59 <KittyHeather> ahh, thank you
Oct 17 04:26:18 <KittyHeather> I couldn't hunt it down for some reason, and I need it to build a car phone kit that will actually work right
Oct 17 04:27:00 <rwhitby> no guarantee whether that is correct or not
Oct 17 04:27:11 <rwhitby> I've never personally connected anything to it
Oct 17 04:28:32 <KittyHeather> I plug in a regular TSR plug from it to my car stereo, and half the time it works fine, the other half I lose the mic ... so I want to wire in a condesor mic which should fix the whole thing
Oct 17 04:28:59 * halfhalo votes bluetooth
Oct 17 04:31:14 <KittyHeather> nah, that would defeat the whole purpose ... i want Pandora going through my stereo when off calls, and it would be another drain on the battery
Oct 17 04:31:43 * halfhalo streams pandora via bluetooth
Oct 17 04:32:01 <halfhalo> although I will give you the battery drain
Oct 17 04:51:13 <KittyHeather> the issue is I want pandora to not go to bluetooth ...
Oct 17 04:51:36 <KittyHeather> And I like having a non-headset car phone
Oct 17 15:56:48 <xbonesx> does govnah support boot profiles, mine always boots to some unknown profile...???
Oct 17 22:02:04 <SineOt> so I think I managed to somehow bork Preware!
Oct 17 22:07:07 <Loudergood> how?
Oct 17 22:07:46 <SineOt> no idea. Was updating a patch and on the install step, it restarted
Oct 17 22:07:54 <SineOt> now says I have nothing installed :x
Oct 17 22:10:03 <Loudergood> can't see I haven't seen that before
Oct 17 22:10:16 <Loudergood> right before the last time I doctored ;)
Oct 17 22:11:01 <sconix> if restart wont cure it run the emergency tool that fixes the installed database
Oct 17 22:11:13 <sconix> it should fix it
Oct 17 22:11:50 <SineOt> okay, I'll give that a try
Oct 17 22:12:19 <sconix> at least it has fixed it everytime (two times so far) for me,
Oct 17 22:12:52 <xbonesx> granted I run my pre at 1ghz with 1437.5V, my pre only last for maybe 1hr doing nothing with the screen on, my battery health is 50%
Oct 17 22:13:49 <SineOt> where you running it at that when trying to calibrate your battery?
Oct 17 22:14:21 <sconix> SineOt: the utility was called emergency reconstruction utility that fixes the installed packages file
Oct 17 22:14:33 <SineOt> yup, found it already~
Oct 17 22:14:36 <sconix> ok
Oct 17 22:15:20 <xbonesx> um I may have been but I think I put it too palm default, running the battery dry right now after a full charge last night, seeing how it lasts
Oct 17 22:37:36 <xbonesx> SineOt: did you get my message?
Oct 17 22:37:51 <SineOt> about setting it to palm default?
Oct 17 22:39:09 <xbonesx> yesir
Oct 17 22:43:01 <SineOt> only thing I can think of trying would be to remove uberkernel/whatever you're using and try again
Oct 17 22:47:27 <xbonesx> no I think it's pretty accurate now, thanks tho
Oct 17 22:47:34 <xbonesx> 50% battery life sucks
Oct 17 23:13:00 <nyc> really random question
Oct 17 23:13:19 <nyc> does the hardware support fm radio?
Oct 17 23:13:36 <nyc> I know the IPhone's does, it's just not implimented
Oct 17 23:13:52 <nyc> if the Pre
Oct 17 23:13:59 <nyc> *If the Pre
Oct 17 23:14:25 <nyc> ergh *If the Pre's hardware does, would it be feasible to code an app for it?
Oct 17 23:31:33 <rwhitby> it does not
Oct 18 00:19:55 <Guest82298> flashed to cricket.  What proxy can i use with wap.mycricket.com
Oct 18 00:28:21 <SineOt> cricket has a Pre?
Oct 18 00:28:51 <bpadalino> no, he re-did the provisioning on his phone to put it on cricket's network (i believe)
Oct 18 00:29:41 <SineOt> flashing would be an odd way to describe changing the provisioning
Oct 18 00:30:53 <bpadalino> *shrug* those crazy cdma peoples
Oct 18 00:32:12 <rwhitby> bpadalino: apparently, there is a webOS 1.3.1 ROM which people who want to get on Cricket buy from some illegal dude and then flash it.
Oct 18 00:32:44 <bpadalino> very interesting
Oct 18 00:32:49 <rwhitby> and since it's an illegal redistribution of webOS files, we can't support it here.
Oct 18 00:33:07 <bpadalino> understandable
Oct 18 00:33:14 <SineOt> 1.3.1 is so ancient now
Oct 18 00:33:21 <SineOt> hope they don't have to pay much for it :I
Oct 18 00:33:36 <rwhitby> now, if the people involved were to publish information about how each end-user can do it for themselves, then we might be able to get involved, but of course that would harm their illegal revenue stream
Oct 18 00:33:54 <rwhitby> SineOt: I believe it's something like $200
Oct 18 00:34:13 <SineOt> good lord
Oct 18 00:34:20 <xbonesx> is there a way to have the pre start with a specified profile running, mine always starts with one called unknown running 500 across the board
Oct 18 00:34:31 <bpadalino> amazing someone would pay that much .. isn't the pre on verizon wireless prepaid now ?
Oct 18 00:34:38 <rwhitby> At least that's what I heard from one guy who was asking why Preware wouldn't work on his device
Oct 18 00:34:43 <SineOt> yeah, it is, bpadalino
Oct 18 00:35:03 <rwhitby> xbonesx: select a profile in govnah, and it sticks on clean boots
Oct 18 00:35:35 <xbonesx> speaking about govnah of course
Oct 18 00:36:08 <SineOt> 200$ for an outdated version of webOS
Oct 18 00:37:11 <xbonesx> nope never has for me even after doctoring and reinstalling everything
Oct 18 00:37:59 <rwhitby> xbonesx: even if you select one of the predefined profiles?
Oct 18 00:38:45 <xbonesx> yesir
Oct 18 00:39:41 <rwhitby> do you have a govnah file in /var/palm/event.d ?
Oct 18 00:41:10 <xbonesx> I'll check
Oct 18 00:43:10 <xbonesx> "/var/palm/event.d/org.webos-internals.govnah" ???
Oct 18 00:47:07 <xbonesx> there's actually like four files for govnah
Oct 18 00:53:30 <xbonesx> rwhitby: any ideas?
Oct 18 00:56:08 <rwhitby> the -settings one is the one for govnah profile
Oct 18 00:56:15 <rwhitby> and the -compcache one
Oct 18 00:56:26 <rwhitby> should only be three I think
Oct 18 00:57:58 <xbonesx> rwhitby: those controlthe default settings? can I manually enter the desired profile into a config file?
Oct 18 01:01:23 <rwhitby> xbonesx: just edit those files directly if you like
Oct 18 01:02:59 <xbonesx> rwhitby: first off hats off to you bro for your work, secondly any thoughts on why govnah might not be setting the profiles?
Oct 18 01:03:46 <rwhitby> look at the first three lines of those scripts and check those commands to see if your device thinks it was uncleanly rebooted
Oct 18 01:03:55 <rwhitby> the lunprop lines
Oct 18 01:05:32 <xbonesx> ok one sec
Oct 18 01:05:32 <xbonesx> lol govnah just received an update??? lol
Oct 18 01:05:55 <oil> that happens
Oct 18 01:09:15 <xbonesx> rwhitby: I got a false, true, true
Oct 18 01:09:32 <Marajin> SineOt: my pixi is slow! Make it less slow! :P
Oct 18 01:10:21 <rwhitby> Marajin: put a 750MHz kernel on it
Oct 18 01:10:30 <rwhitby> xbonesx: that's not it then.
Oct 18 01:10:42 <Marajin> rwhitby: is there one in the preware repos? O.o
Oct 18 01:10:44 <rwhitby> xbonesx: is it charging, or is the battery less than 25% ?
Oct 18 01:10:56 <rwhitby> Marajin: yes, in the kernel test feed
Oct 18 01:11:01 <Marajin> hmm
Oct 18 01:11:07 <xbonesx> Marajin: wasn't a OC released for pixi, in testing feed???
Oct 18 01:11:08 <Marajin> I assume that needs to be manually added?
Oct 18 01:11:20 <rwhitby> google knows how
Oct 18 01:11:21 <Marajin> xbonesx: I didn't see it when I was looking for kernels
Oct 18 01:15:36 <xbonesx> rwhitby: I'm chraging at the moment, I run a userdefined profile so the charging doesn't effect the cpu rate, but when I restart the phone I have it off the charger
Oct 18 01:16:01 <Marajin> alrighty
Oct 18 01:16:04 <Marajin> feed updating now
Oct 18 01:20:10 <Marajin> alright
Oct 18 01:20:10 <Marajin> no
Oct 18 01:20:16 <Marajin> totally not in the feeds I'm finding
Oct 18 01:22:11 <Marajin> I tried the all and the armv6 feeds to no avail.. does the kernel have its own supar sekrit sneaky feed or what? :p
Oct 18 01:22:49 <rwhitby> yeah, it's real sneaky and hidden.  second google hit for "webos-internals kernel testing feed"
Oct 18 01:23:09 <bpadalino> the SECOND hit?!
Oct 18 01:23:16 <bpadalino> ugh, so low in rankings :(
Oct 18 01:23:17 <Marajin> I went for 'pixi kernel feed'
Oct 18 01:23:19 <oil> not feelin lucky?
Oct 18 01:26:05 <Marajin> ok that 2nd link is the page I went to.. my bad, didn't actually scroll to the bottom to read if there was a special section for kernels
Oct 18 01:26:17 <Marajin> and that web address for the feed just makes me bloody suspicious
Oct 18 01:28:05 <halfhalo> dundunDUN
Oct 18 01:28:17 <Marajin> heh
Oct 18 01:30:01 <Marajin> ... that's kinda amusing
Oct 18 01:31:34 <xbonesx> Marajin: get it working?
Oct 18 01:32:42 <Marajin> well yes
Oct 18 01:32:49 <Marajin> but I can't believe they bothered to code that behaviour in
Oct 18 01:32:52 <Marajin> :D
Oct 18 01:32:58 <halfhalo> patch it
Oct 18 01:33:21 <Marajin> that or I could just use the logical URL in the future I suppose
Oct 18 01:35:16 <Marajin> iiiinteresting
Oct 18 01:35:17 <SineOt> lol, Marajin! Install Warthog!
Oct 18 01:35:19 <Marajin> it failed to install
Oct 18 01:35:45 <Marajin> let me guess, it freaked cause I'd installed the UK?
Oct 18 01:35:56 <SineOt> probably
Oct 18 01:36:05 <SineOt> uninstall UK and install Warthog
Oct 18 01:36:11 <Marajin> that's what I shall do
Oct 18 01:36:16 <SineOt> and be sure to set up compcache in Govnah
Oct 18 01:36:25 <Marajin> mais bien sur
Oct 18 01:38:38 <Marajin> there we go, it installed
Oct 18 01:39:05 <Marajin> SineOt: ZOMG, my pixi melted and set my desk on fire, totally blaming you! :p
Oct 18 01:40:00 <Marajin> It also ate my imaginary kitten :(
Oct 18 01:43:16 <SineOt> ;_;
Oct 18 01:43:22 <SineOt> it didn't eat your kitten
Oct 18 01:43:35 <SineOt> it just reinstalled it to my Pixi
Oct 18 01:43:37 <SineOt> >:O
Oct 18 01:44:54 <SineOt> but yeah 748+compcache@24mb (I'm weird) runs really nice
Oct 18 01:46:05 <SineOt> if stuff like 806 turns out to be stable all the better
Oct 18 01:46:24 <Marajin> heh
Oct 18 01:46:31 <Marajin> just fiddling with the advanced settings now..
Oct 18 01:46:37 <Marajin> enabled the same settings as yours
Oct 18 01:49:05 <Marajin> SineOt: btw, that kitten is a disguise, it's a grue really... DON'T TURN OFF THE LIGHTS!
Oct 18 01:49:32 <bpadalino> you're standing in front of a white house
Oct 18 01:49:42 <SineOt> I also bumped the Up Threshold to 70% since I (think) that makes it bump up quicker
Oct 18 01:49:43 <Marajin> also, my pixi also doesn't have magical running cooler than ambient temperature properties either
Oct 18 01:49:59 <SineOt> figure out what the delta is from ambient to your pixi
Oct 18 01:50:20 <Marajin> well it's at 38 C right now heh
Oct 18 01:50:23 <SineOt> mine idles at like, 7 over ambient :p
Oct 18 01:50:32 <SineOt> which happens to be 35
Oct 18 01:50:38 <SineOt> which seems hot, but it's a hot room so!
Oct 18 01:50:39 <Marajin> and it's certainly not 30 in here
Oct 18 01:51:06 <Marajin> I shall let it idle a bit
Oct 18 01:51:15 <SineOt> I'm going to go get a coffee
Oct 18 01:51:16 <SineOt> later!
Oct 18 01:53:37 * Marajin waves.
Oct 18 01:53:46 <Marajin> I'm going to bed (35 C.. so it IS dropping slowly)
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