**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 28 02:59:57 2010 Nov 28 03:16:02 . Nov 28 03:16:52 orly? Nov 28 03:19:28 hello webosinternals! Nov 28 03:19:35 Is oil around? Nov 28 03:19:39 hi Nov 28 03:19:46 yes Nov 28 03:20:00 !!! Nov 28 03:20:06 hey, I think I have everything finished up with the AppCat theme Nov 28 03:21:16 wanna zip it up or something and email it to me? Nov 28 03:21:21 brandonvb@gmail Nov 28 03:21:39 already zipped up and uploaded to my web host. Want a direct link? Nov 28 03:21:45 sure Nov 28 03:21:50 http://webos.choorp.com/dev/themes/Preware-AppCat.zip Nov 28 03:22:07 * oil will check it out in a few Nov 28 03:22:08 Seems that there's a lot of Preware themes rolling in :o Nov 28 03:22:32 Yea, well mine is better Nov 28 03:22:35 haha jk :) Nov 28 03:22:46 lol Nov 28 03:22:48 ;p Nov 28 03:23:22 let me know if you find anything that needs fixing. I'm pretty sure I got everything I needed Nov 28 03:23:26 if someone stuck their tongue out then winked, im not sure what to think of it Nov 28 03:23:50 i would think they are "special" Nov 28 03:24:08 lol Nov 28 03:24:41 :C Nov 28 03:25:08 oh, and all images in my theme were created from scratch. In the previous screenshots, I was two of Palm's AppCat images Nov 28 03:25:19 *I was using Nov 28 03:26:44 Garrett92C: looking at it, did you theme the list divider? Nov 28 03:28:53 SineOt: Yea, I themed the labeled dividers Nov 28 03:29:34 ah, but not the other thin list divider? Nov 28 03:29:40 there's a weird bug with it I can't figure out Nov 28 03:29:57 if I theme it, when tapped it... jumps up like half way :C Nov 28 03:30:00 oh no, didn't theme the thin ones Nov 28 03:30:20 well that doesn't sound right lol Nov 28 03:30:36 how would swapping an image cause that? Nov 28 03:30:49 No idea, I haven't fiddled with it enough to get it figured out Nov 28 03:31:17 Oh, you can find a few screenshots here: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/269202-apps-do-you-want-themed-2.html#post2768325 Nov 28 03:31:45 if you really want to see lol. I changed a few things slightly, but those screenshots are pretty much how it looks Nov 28 03:32:23 and I changed those ugly grey popup menus too Nov 28 03:32:51 yeah, I saw it the other dy. Looks pretty good Nov 28 03:33:03 oh yea... Nov 28 03:47:45 urg... hrm Nov 28 03:48:15 I need to unlock my Pre+ :C Nov 28 04:04:43 Hey guys! I looked through the logs. I see good work being done for preware themes and webOS 2.0 patches. But I was wondering if the latest barrier to getting webOS 2.0 on castle has been broken, or even if its possible. Sooo hows it going guys? haha Nov 28 04:05:04 i haven't seen it being worked on today Nov 28 04:05:14 i dont know how far it is Nov 28 04:06:02 hmmm well hopefully that doesnt mean FrankenPre is dead :( that would be sad haha Nov 28 04:06:11 and these awesome preware themes im hearing about Nov 28 04:06:20 I don't think it'll ever die Nov 28 04:06:25 I hope the layman will be getting is soon :)? Nov 28 04:06:27 until Palm releases it proper :p Nov 28 04:06:53 oil: should I copy Garrett92C's packaging for preware themes? Nov 28 04:07:16 * oil hasnt looked at it yet Nov 28 04:07:35 are you asking me? haha Nov 28 04:07:49 er Nov 28 04:08:04 /theme.css /resources/ Nov 28 04:08:05 basically Nov 28 04:08:25 Id like to be able to apply them but from where can i get them Nov 28 04:09:18 well in the app its going to be /stylesheets/theme.css /images/theme/* Nov 28 04:10:41 okay Nov 28 04:12:37 i'm back Nov 28 04:13:02 shaikh: oh you're gone Nov 28 04:13:08 :P Nov 28 04:14:19 so any themes we make will be in the same css file? Nov 28 04:14:35 no Nov 28 04:14:35 I was going to tell him the last obstacle is issues with the ddk that may be partly solved by getting the SDK for powervr from TI but there are still some potential issues with the libs Nov 28 04:14:38 I don't think so Nov 28 04:14:53 oh ok lol Nov 28 04:15:45 it's ok oil, take your time :) Nov 28 04:16:42 dont mind if i tweak parts? Nov 28 04:17:31 go for it. Let me know what you change though, I'm curious lol :D Nov 28 04:17:53 well, my first thought is the second row in pkg-list Nov 28 04:17:59 too dark for that background Nov 28 04:18:28 that's actually one of the things that was bothering me. If I made it too light, it would blend too much with the first row Nov 28 04:18:31 * oil is just really pickey Nov 28 04:18:38 I agree it does look slightly "off" Nov 28 04:18:39 picky is good Nov 28 04:18:50 like the "rounded-bubbles" for the multiline headers Nov 28 04:19:16 yes change those.. I couldn't think of anything better for that lol Nov 28 04:19:16 the radius doesnt match the card rounded corner radius Nov 28 04:19:32 not saying its bad, just looks weird with a different radius Nov 28 04:19:41 i use the "squarify screen" tweak, so I never noticed that Nov 28 04:19:46 ah Nov 28 04:20:02 i hate those images that "round" the screen Nov 28 04:20:30 * oil likes it Nov 28 04:20:44 well you have bad taste :p Nov 28 04:20:49 lol Nov 28 04:20:51 ;p Nov 28 04:20:59 lol jk Nov 28 04:21:11 the rounded corners make it look better Nov 28 04:21:13 squarify patch makes it look weirds Nov 28 04:21:57 well i pushed it to the repo Nov 28 04:22:03 rounded corners look terrible if you're using a custom statusbar background... Nov 28 04:22:06 but ill tweak it some later tonight :) Nov 28 04:22:21 ok sounds good :) thanks Nov 28 04:22:31 why not change the rounded corners images to fit your new statusbar? Nov 28 04:22:34 xD Nov 28 04:23:12 because I use my current wallpaper as the background lol Nov 28 04:23:24 therefore, nothing would look right for the corners Nov 28 04:24:23 hm, can you theme the four corners independantly? Nov 28 04:24:29 yep Nov 28 04:24:32 its an image, no? Nov 28 04:24:39 yes, 4 images Nov 28 04:24:44 there you go :) Nov 28 04:24:48 cool Nov 28 04:24:57 didn't know if they just used one and rotated it or what :p Nov 28 04:25:34 that would be nifty Nov 28 04:25:51 i figured it was either 4 images, or one spliced round image Nov 28 04:26:10 no fancy css3? Nov 28 04:26:26 or rounded corners with a large border positioned to look just like that? Nov 28 04:26:27 lol Nov 28 04:26:47 'background-image:' is very fancy! Nov 28 04:55:38 oil: do we know how to make all the cards opened by wIRC open in the stack? Nov 28 04:55:59 in the same (current) stack that is Nov 28 04:56:43 rwhitby: it does by default already Nov 28 04:56:55 each stage it opens goes into the stack with the first card Nov 28 05:09:32 oil: it's not working for me when multiple cards are automatically opened on startup Nov 28 05:10:05 I get one stack with a couple of cards, and then the rest open in separate single-card stacks Nov 28 05:12:37 you can put single cards together into stacks, right? Nov 28 05:12:49 yeah Nov 28 05:13:53 trying to find where wirc launches a new card to see if there are any tidbits about it there Nov 28 05:14:43 its in channel.js Nov 28 05:14:54 but i dont know any way to force it one way or the other Nov 28 05:34:25 where does one submit a patch idea? Nov 28 05:35:16 Davide-NYC: you should realize the idea and make a patch :) Nov 28 05:35:46 Davide-NYC: I suppose you could request someone write it on precentral, but I strongly suggest just diving in and figuring out how stuff works Nov 28 05:36:46 destinal: not likely to be successful. should I put it in the forums? Nov 28 05:37:26 it could even already exist, what is it? Nov 28 05:38:57 bypass the alarm (system) volume level. Nov 28 05:39:19 all alarms play at 100%. Nov 28 05:39:51 if you have the volume down you're liable to oversleep! Nov 28 05:40:39 * halfhalo ges to code and juryrig a new tv situation Nov 28 05:42:39 already requested and bumped by others: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/213188-patch-request-bypass-volume-settings-alarms.html Nov 28 05:43:26 this is needed unless it has been fixed in webos2.0 Nov 28 06:01:51 * halfhalo throws out the coding idea for the "Using the 23" Screen as a TV" idea Nov 28 06:04:13 aw Nov 28 06:07:18 * halfhalo puts that plan on hold while he scrounges up a hdmi <-> dvi converter and a rca to 3.5mm jack thingie Nov 28 06:07:50 palm pre 3 should get seventeen USB jacks Nov 28 06:07:58 think of the things you could do with that many USB jacks Nov 28 06:08:37 ummm... plug in a maximum of 17X127 devices? Nov 28 06:10:09 awww, infobot died Nov 28 06:10:19 palm pre 3 should get USB 3 Nov 28 06:10:28 I wonder Nov 28 06:10:34 what if they just replaced the micro usb with a single usb 3.0 port Nov 28 06:10:37 would everybody die Nov 28 06:11:10 usb3 still requires a usb2 connection as well .. it isn't just superspeed Nov 28 06:11:43 yeah, it's backwards compatible, i think Nov 28 06:13:32 * halfhalo throws the coding plan back into high gear as he notes that e editor is on github Nov 28 06:17:57 yeah, usb3 supports all modes of the previous standards Nov 28 06:18:03 as well as super Nov 28 06:18:23 it would suck to have to have usb2 and usb3 ports :P Nov 28 06:18:34 you know, birds are really common application/service icons Nov 28 06:18:56 linux, twitter, songbird, adium, cyberduck, angry birds Nov 28 06:19:04 well I guess linux isn't an app Nov 28 06:19:08 linux is a state of mind Nov 28 06:19:33 so yeah some guys tried to repair my earpiece Nov 28 06:19:46 not only failed but jacked up my volume rocker in the process Nov 28 06:19:57 time to hit up craigslist and plop down on a 4th pre ;-; Nov 28 06:20:29 or Media Volume Slider in Device Menu Nov 28 06:31:30 torchie: or if you're a developer, get the coupon and get an inexpensive pre2 Nov 28 06:31:52 sprint Nov 28 06:31:57 how inexpensive is this pre2 Nov 28 06:32:08 and what sort of status do you have to have as a developer Nov 28 06:32:21 because I just sort of registered and downloaded the SDK, I don't actually have any apps in the catalog or anything Nov 28 06:33:27 * halfhalo is the same Nov 28 06:34:04 hope to god there's a palmpad Nov 28 06:34:21 I want to dev exclusively for tablets Nov 28 06:34:36 well, no-one seems to have got any coupons yet, so it's pretty exclusive so far ... Nov 28 06:42:33 * halfhalo is failing at using vs2010 Nov 28 10:02:34 webos has a firewall which prevents apps from going out? Nov 28 14:18:24 Hello all (: Somebody could give me a small hint, there are any taxes when you register as developer @ palm? Nov 28 14:20:09 Ergh - Everybody's afk in all webos channels :/ Nov 28 14:31:27 heyho Nov 28 14:35:36 Hey @ ice8Lue Nov 28 17:49:32 hi Nov 28 17:50:05 how do i downloan prewear? Nov 28 17:51:31 get.preware.org Nov 28 17:55:17 how? Nov 28 17:55:29 on my phone or computer Nov 28 17:58:39 it says format not supported Nov 28 17:59:38 follow the instructions from install.preware.org Nov 28 18:01:08 on my phone? Nov 28 18:02:06 on the computer Nov 28 19:19:39 Hello all :) Nov 28 19:21:32 I got 2 questions: Nov 28 19:21:42 1. I can mount the root of my pré via USB anyway? Nov 28 19:22:10 2. It is possible when I delete a few images from the standard theme to restore them with quick installer? Nov 28 19:24:03 Schalla: we tend to not mount the rootfs via USB. it's easy enough to just novaterm into the linux shell on the pre itself Nov 28 19:24:51 you can also install ssh using preware and then mount it on a linux box with sshfs or use winscp or some other GUI scp software Nov 28 19:26:33 Well, over Putty it was really kinda complicated, the thing is I wanna change Images so I need a direct connection, over WiFi isn't possible I guess or? Nov 28 19:26:41 But the method with novaterm is intressting thanks. Nov 28 19:27:18 Schalla: you could always explore the filesystem by extracting the rootfs tar from the webos doctor jar file Nov 28 19:27:41 then if you want to change something, use winscp for instance Nov 28 19:28:47 you can get the original images you deleted from there also Nov 28 19:29:12 I am running on Linux, so I guess winscp won't work :p Nov 28 19:29:26 Schalla: ah so by putty I thought you were using windows. Nov 28 19:29:53 Ofc not, currently Ubuntu and will change on thuesday to Arch. Well with putty was freakin' complicated to get SSH Connection Nov 28 19:30:39 Schalla: you can mount whatever you need from pre with sshfs also. Nov 28 19:30:49 But a little comment at the border, I am quite impressed of the simplyness of webos Nov 28 19:30:59 it's so easy in everyway^^ Nov 28 19:31:35 Ah, will try that. Nov 28 19:33:27 bpadalino_: greetings Nov 28 19:33:32 hi Nov 28 19:33:47 how are things ? Nov 28 19:35:49 bpadalino_: interesting hacking going on re omap3 in #nookdevs. drinkinggood beer. can't complain. let me know if you make any progress on hidd, I'm interested in working on it, I think we'll need it soon Nov 28 19:36:17 will do .. Nov 28 19:38:01 bpadalino: mainly if you can just get the latest one you showed me to compile so I know how the threads and message passing's working, I think I can contirubte Nov 28 19:38:14 but obviously can't type Nov 28 19:38:19 :) Nov 28 19:38:26 heh, right Nov 28 19:54:21 hape: ping Nov 28 19:59:23 hi PuffTheMagic Nov 28 20:05:58 hape: whats the deal with navi on vzw pre plus Nov 28 20:07:29 We have no idea Nov 28 20:07:40 so u know it dont launch? Nov 28 20:08:08 The problem is that the PDK call to init the GPS callback do not work Nov 28 20:08:15 It should launch Nov 28 20:08:32 my friend is over and i was trying to get him to use it Nov 28 20:08:41 but it does not launch at all Nov 28 20:08:52 what do the navil.log say? Nov 28 20:08:57 navit.log Nov 28 20:09:07 is that in /media? Nov 28 20:09:20 in the folder where you put the map Nov 28 20:09:33 /media/internal/appdata/.... Nov 28 20:10:35 there is no log file Nov 28 20:11:08 Hm that is starange Nov 28 20:11:40 do you can novaterm into the device? Nov 28 20:11:48 ya Nov 28 20:12:38 what do u want me to do Nov 28 20:13:01 change to the navit program folder and stat ./navit.sh Nov 28 20:13:12 s/stat/start/ Nov 28 20:13:13 hape meant: change to the navit program folder and start ./navit.sh Nov 28 20:17:21 k Nov 28 20:18:32 it crashes Nov 28 20:18:43 and the message? Nov 28 20:22:06 http://pastebin.com/FwM7VETA Nov 28 20:23:34 something when wrong when you changed the navit.xml file Nov 28 20:23:47 does that get created when u install navit? Nov 28 20:23:52 or created on first launch Nov 28 20:24:19 It should be created on the first run and every next run if it is missing Nov 28 20:24:29 well i deleted the app dir Nov 28 20:24:31 and reran it Nov 28 20:24:35 and it still fails Nov 28 20:24:44 i think its not making the config file for some reason Nov 28 20:24:47 so delete all *.xml you have in the /media/internal/appdata/ folder Nov 28 20:24:53 i did Nov 28 20:25:18 do you can pastbin me the navit.xml Nov 28 20:25:40 there is none Nov 28 20:25:45 its not making it Nov 28 20:25:49 you start the wron one Nov 28 20:25:51 i deleted the whole appdata dir Nov 28 20:25:57 and clicked the icon Nov 28 20:26:01 and it dont make it Nov 28 20:26:10 cd to /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.navit/ Nov 28 20:26:15 without the bin Nov 28 20:26:21 and stat ./navit.sh Nov 28 20:26:27 and strat ./navit.sh Nov 28 20:26:32 and start ./navit.sh Nov 28 20:31:10 the empty /media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit needs to be there. It is only created by the postinstall script Nov 28 20:31:31 The files inside it will be recreated by the navit.sh script Nov 28 20:32:27 the *.bin map file needs to be in /media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit/maps with the original xml file Nov 28 20:33:19 PuffTheMagic: so trying the newly pushed 0.3.4 wIRC... I'm still seeing the ACTION message cut off bug :/ Nov 28 20:35:22 * SineOt This is a test of a full buffer message. It is long, annoying, and mostly a pain in the ass. Fart fart fart. Somewhere along the line it will cut off normally due to being over a buffer in length. This is a test of a full buffer message. It is long, annoying, and mostly a pain in the ass. Fart fart fart. Somewhere along the line it will cut off normally due to being over a buffer in length. (1) Nov 28 20:35:37 Yeah, it still shows up both in PM and channel. Nov 28 20:39:18 what? Nov 28 20:39:38 where does it not work? Nov 28 20:40:00 On wIRC? Incoming messages Nov 28 20:41:09 Sending them out to a desktop client works fine, cuts off where it should, but receiving them doesn't work Nov 28 20:53:10 PuffTheMagic: Did you retest? I need to go... Nov 28 20:53:42 ya Nov 28 20:53:45 its launching now Nov 28 20:59:34 that sounds good. Do you get a GPS signal. (R:x.xxx in the upper right corner is the quality. 0.000=No GPS data) Nov 28 21:01:02 ya Nov 28 21:01:07 R:25.00000m Nov 28 21:01:19 goo, then I can go to bed ;-) Nov 28 21:01:22 :D Nov 28 21:01:25 have a nice day n8 Nov 28 21:01:27 does navit support miles Nov 28 21:01:29 or just km Nov 28 21:06:27 only km at he moment. A miles pathc is in work by the original Navit developers, But I have no idea when it will be finsihed Nov 28 21:06:41 i def need to start hacking on it Nov 28 21:06:43 its pretty nice Nov 28 21:06:44 but Nov 28 21:06:48 like i added a town Nov 28 21:06:53 and like 10 came up Nov 28 21:06:57 with no mention of the state Nov 28 21:07:01 so its hard to pick a route Nov 28 21:07:06 def could improve some stuff Nov 28 21:07:23 hape: u have any plans on making this a sdl hybrid Nov 28 21:07:36 taking advantage of some of the mojo ui stuff would be nice Nov 28 21:07:42 i could help out with this Nov 28 21:07:48 That is a problem for the US. No state support. The mose Defelopers are from Europe.... Nov 28 21:08:12 hape: are u from Eurpoe? Nov 28 21:08:24 osm has the attributes doesn't it? Nov 28 21:08:54 PuffTheMagic: Yes noradtux what to change it to a hyprib app. But at the moment the SDL init chrashes when you lauch it as a plugin. we hope this will go away with the new PDK for 2.0 Nov 28 21:10:27 tmzt_g2root: yes, but navit do not use it . The map is converted into a specioy navit format. I'm not sure if this supports states. But you can contact the Navit team on the #Navit channel. My C skills are to rosti to do big things here, also a leak ot time .... Nov 28 21:11:00 yeah, same here Nov 28 21:11:34 hape: ya it should Nov 28 21:11:39 2.0 fixes a lot of hybird bugs Nov 28 21:12:20 same as the GPS init if you start navit on a Pre2. It is running but not getting any GPS data. Nov 28 21:12:41 We need the new SDK to test if it is only the linking. Nov 28 21:15:31 PuffTheMagic: noradtux and I are from Germany. The main Navit developers are from france, uk and russia as fare as I saw it forn the chat on #Navit Nov 28 21:18:49 hape: u're german? ;) Nov 28 21:18:58 * Ice8lue too Nov 28 22:53:47 If anyone is around I've got a question about applying sconix's avanced Launcher patch to the emulator Nov 28 22:54:00 it's not applying cleanly through preware. Nov 28 22:54:36 No idea, got no webOS 2.0^^ Nov 28 22:55:20 I'm using the 1.4.5 emulator. Nov 28 22:57:06 I think it has something to do with the "First Use App" being visible. Nov 28 22:57:17 yeah Nov 28 22:57:20 go hide it Nov 28 22:59:34 though the terminal Nov 28 22:59:56 how do I perform a "gesture" with the emulator Nov 28 23:01:01 idk Nov 28 23:01:07 you can ssh into the emulator Nov 28 23:01:15 putty? Nov 28 23:01:16 localhost port 5522 or something like that? Nov 28 23:01:22 yeah Nov 28 23:01:30 login as root then type in whatever for a password Nov 28 23:01:58 got it Nov 28 23:02:26 Is the gesture area not supported in the emulator? Nov 28 23:02:51 correct Nov 28 23:03:34 well, there is gesture back/forward Nov 28 23:03:40 but no "hold" for some other action Nov 28 23:05:10 That's totally FAIL. Nov 28 23:06:33 success. thanks oil Nov 28 23:07:00 np Nov 28 23:12:40 well, FWIW the "alt" key plus mouse click does a "gesture tap" in the emulator. At least in the laucher once sconix's advanced patch was installed. Nov 28 23:23:24 Davide-NYC: the emulator really needs more keys to simulate things, as well as some kind of multitouch input device preferably. we have plans but we need to figure out the device input system to make plugins to simulate the right events Nov 28 23:24:27 I didn't know about alt+click though, that's cool. Nov 28 23:28:48 * webOSQuire waves Nov 29 00:53:14 Garrett92C: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/preware.git;a=commitdiff;h=4465c84ecf42bb5bfb20c85dc8b734040be1232c Nov 29 00:53:40 nice, new theme! Nov 29 00:56:13 nice! I like the addition of the green version Nov 29 00:56:23 * oil is taking some screenshots so you can see his changes Nov 29 00:56:27 I also love what you did with the header image... Much better! Nov 29 00:56:49 For some reason, I am terrible at creating new header images :( Nov 29 00:59:04 http://i54.tinypic.com/w5vtu.png Nov 29 00:59:08 http://i52.tinypic.com/lv86h.png Nov 29 00:59:40 ofcourse, it will have to be remade for a "dark" version Nov 29 00:59:43 ala 2.0s catalog Nov 29 00:59:48 dundundun... Nov 29 01:01:29 I haven't seen anything in 2.0 yet... :( Nov 29 01:01:35 :/ Nov 29 01:01:46 there is screenshots of the new catalog floatin around Nov 29 01:01:56 i like the changes you made with my theme though! You did a good job refining certain parts :) Nov 29 01:02:13 like i said, im pickey :) Nov 29 01:02:25 and for the "lighter second-line" that is places Nov 29 01:02:32 im using rgba() Nov 29 01:02:39 to its white, just semitransparent Nov 29 01:02:41 If I had access to the webOS 2.0 SDK, I would definitely make that darker theme tonight Nov 29 01:02:43 seemed like it worked ok Nov 29 01:03:03 ah ok.. Nov 29 01:03:41 any idea when Palm is going to make the 2.0 SDK public? :( Nov 29 01:03:47 no clue Nov 29 01:03:50 I'm not in the Early Access thing Nov 29 01:03:51 ask for early access Nov 29 01:04:04 Don't I need an app in the catalog or something? Nov 29 01:04:27 idk Nov 29 01:04:31 getting into EA is like getting a Drivers License in CA. Even a monkey could do it Nov 29 01:04:50 lol Nov 29 01:04:51 Oh cool.. I may send them an email then Nov 29 01:05:35 so.. when are you guys releasing 1.4.6? :D Nov 29 01:05:38 lol Nov 29 01:05:46 i may actually change it more Nov 29 01:05:53 base it off palm-dark instead of -default Nov 29 01:06:10 the palm-group/palm-list-seperators from default look too bright Nov 29 01:06:13 but maybe thats just me Nov 29 01:07:06 well switch it up real quick. Should only take 2 seconds using Find/Replace lol Nov 29 01:07:12 yeah Nov 29 01:07:28 i also condensed your css down Nov 29 01:07:38 removed all the stuff that was the same in -default Nov 29 01:07:44 yea i saw that Nov 29 01:08:09 i actually kept all that in there so it would be easier for you guys to make tweaks lol Nov 29 01:10:52 its easier if its just whats changed Nov 29 01:10:59 * halfhalo is enhancing his ultracool regex parser 3000 Nov 29 01:11:12 then changes to the default styles will flow over Nov 29 01:11:42 oh ok Nov 29 01:12:07 and for future reference Nov 29 01:12:26 the rounded corners are made from a 46x46px circle ;) Nov 29 01:13:22 I will absolutely keep that in mind. Like i said, I'm terrible with headers lol Nov 29 01:13:43 I'm actually going to write that down somewhere... Nov 29 01:15:21 ok, gotta head out for a bit. btw, my email is Garrett92C@gmail.com in case youneed to get in touch with me or something Nov 29 02:30:55 So, again: Anyone overclocking their Pre and having issue when watching video? Nov 29 02:31:22 SineOt, what kind of issues? Nov 29 02:31:52 mostly screen tearing, flickering static on the display Nov 29 02:31:58 only does it when watching video :/ Nov 29 02:32:38 close video, everything goes back to normal. open video, everything starts up again Nov 29 02:39:38 1GHz? Nov 29 02:40:06 anything over 500, so 600, 720, 800, etc Nov 29 02:40:17 but it only has issues when running video Nov 29 02:40:59 not seeing it myself...only OC issue I had was recording video for a long period of time locked up the camera Nov 29 02:42:40 Only thing I've seen similar is that my gf's pre will do similar at 1GHZ Nov 29 02:42:50 what's weird is that it runs smooth as silk for anything else Nov 29 02:45:54 probably an issue with video decoding hardware Nov 29 02:46:50 if it's anything at all similar to my experiences overclocking PC hardware..that used to be one of my favorite money wasting hobbies Nov 29 02:46:53 that's what I figured, but from what I know, it should be an entirely separate chip Nov 29 02:47:20 so overclocking the OMAP, unless it is just a basic clock hack or something, shouldn't touch it Nov 29 02:47:23 sucks either way **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 29 02:59:57 2010