**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 11 02:59:57 2010 Dec 11 03:10:49 hey I can't load preware from QI. Says package not found. Any ideas? Dec 11 03:28:16 hello Dec 11 03:28:59 i'm trying to get my pre to use opendns, and in doing so I need to connect to opendns on some port other than 53, since sprint seems to redirect all port 53 traffic to their own servers Dec 11 03:33:54 you'll probably need an iptables rule for that Dec 11 03:34:38 right.. Dec 11 03:34:57 i'm having difficulty with that part :-P Dec 11 03:35:18 iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -i ppp0 --dport 53 -j DNAT --to-port 53 didn't seem to work Dec 11 03:35:42 looks like opendns supposedly listens on port 5353 Dec 11 03:35:56 or at least I saw a post by someone to that effect Dec 11 03:51:47 * oil will believe the patch when he sees it Dec 11 03:52:26 * halfhalo smacks oil with a large trout shaped .diff file Dec 11 03:54:38 Hi, quick question: Is there some like a palm-package script that runs in the Pre Linux? Dec 11 03:54:58 I know how to pass apps, I just want to do it faster ;) Dec 11 03:55:09 (transfer apps) Dec 11 03:57:27 NuttyBunny: you can use ipkg-build Dec 11 03:58:05 rwhitby: Nice, let's see :) Thanks! Dec 11 03:59:59 does that run under the Pre Linux? I can't find it, and it's not in optware.. I don't want to turn on the laptop :( Dec 11 04:00:46 NuttyBunny: you'll need python from optware, and then it's just a script Dec 11 04:01:55 ah, ok. thanks, I'll look into it, I'm still playing with my Plus, I managed to unlock it w/o activating it.. hehehe Dec 11 04:02:36 AT&T SIM in Mexico would work? I have some guys at work that have AT&T phones... Dec 11 04:15:31 I really think I'll wait next week for Chuq's news :) Dec 11 04:17:00 what news Dec 11 04:17:37 Read the early access forums, you know, the NDA Dec 11 04:17:44 ba Dec 11 04:18:02 humbug? Dec 11 04:18:33 ScroogeTheMagic? Dec 11 04:18:41 yupyup! Dec 11 04:18:44 PuffTheScrooge? Dec 11 04:18:50 xD Dec 11 04:19:37 * halfhalo highfives oil Dec 11 04:20:20 whats this the anti puff coalition Dec 11 04:20:32 I got paid for my role Dec 11 04:20:35 NuttyBunny, i will believe it when i see it Dec 11 04:21:26 hey, it becomes a good acronym, apc Dec 11 04:22:35 oil, try and break wirc Dec 11 04:22:43 * oil is eating Dec 11 04:22:47 HAH! like that is hard Dec 11 04:22:55 lol Dec 11 04:23:54 puffthemagic: Yeah, me too, but changing the status from "soon" to "really soon" is an improvement :) Dec 11 04:24:24 they only have a few days left to meet their target Dec 11 04:32:15 * PuffTheMagic has to install windows again to play Civ5 Dec 11 04:32:20 * PuffTheMagic feels sick Dec 11 04:33:15 * halfhalo high fives Puff! Dec 11 04:33:43 cause windows disgusts me or cause im playing civ5? Dec 11 04:33:58 or cause im installing windows on a mac to play civ 5 Dec 11 04:34:06 last one Dec 11 04:34:15 * halfhalo has civ5 installed on his deskytop Dec 11 04:34:24 i had it installed Dec 11 04:34:29 but i must have messed up that partition Dec 11 04:34:32 so gotta redo it Dec 11 04:34:42 this time using an old xp cd instead of bootleg win7 Dec 11 04:35:02 pirate!!! Dec 11 04:35:15 * PuffTheMagic cant wait till after xmas when he builds his core i7 box with 12gb ram! Dec 11 04:35:48 lol Dec 11 04:36:03 * halfhalo isn't upgrading his desktop for at least a year Dec 11 04:36:13 i havent build a computer since HS Dec 11 04:36:33 * oil replaced his mobo like a year ago Dec 11 04:36:39 * oil is probably good for a while Dec 11 04:37:01 my last home built was a dual pentium 3 450 box :D Dec 11 04:37:09 with the first promise ultra 66 controller Dec 11 04:37:34 * halfhalo has a desktop with a q6600, 6GB rams, and a 5850 Dec 11 04:37:36 i was rocking dual procs for ages Dec 11 04:38:49 halfhalo, i need as much ram as possible, i have to do stats on gigs of data Dec 11 04:38:53 * oil had a dual p3 550 at one point Dec 11 04:39:09 tyan mobo? Dec 11 04:39:16 haha, yeah Dec 11 04:39:21 i've still got it somewhere Dec 11 04:39:23 hell ya Dec 11 04:39:25 me too Dec 11 04:39:26 Eh, I rarely use my desktop anywho, so its not a big deal Dec 11 04:39:29 i was using it as my linux box when i replaced it Dec 11 04:39:30 in a full tower case Dec 11 04:39:33 it fucking massive Dec 11 04:39:35 I have 5GB in the mac mini as well Dec 11 04:39:43 mine is in a antec midtower Dec 11 04:39:57 * halfhalo has antec 900 since its the widest that fits in his desk Dec 11 04:40:04 oil, that tower as a 6" AC fan from radio shack in the front filling 3 bays Dec 11 04:40:13 it sucks in flys half way across the room Dec 11 04:40:13 lol Dec 11 04:40:29 sounds super loud Dec 11 04:40:38 naa its quiet actually Dec 11 04:40:47 mines only got one 6cm in the front Dec 11 04:40:48 the cpu fans and power supply fans are louder Dec 11 04:40:50 and the psu fan in the back Dec 11 04:41:00 and the two small cpu fans Dec 11 04:41:07 which are the loudest fans in my room Dec 11 04:41:20 did u ever rock the golden orb heatsink/fans Dec 11 04:41:22 ? Dec 11 04:41:26 no Dec 11 04:41:33 the black ones Dec 11 04:41:48 booo Dec 11 04:41:55 * halfhalo rarely uses the computer due to its loudness Dec 11 04:42:05 And plus, the mac mini is just faster in overall use Dec 11 04:42:20 * rwhitby hacks Angry Birds Seasons to show all 25 levels Dec 11 04:42:26 my mac mini runs bib Dec 11 04:42:29 that thats all it does Dec 11 04:42:29 lol Dec 11 04:42:30 :D Dec 11 04:42:36 linux on ppc Dec 11 04:42:43 hah Dec 11 04:42:55 * halfhalo loves how fast the mini is with a ssd Dec 11 04:42:57 bib? bip? Dec 11 04:43:07 bip Dec 11 04:43:28 srsly, ssd = win on so many levels Dec 11 04:43:52 * oil has been thinking of buying one to put his os and programs on Dec 11 04:43:58 worth it Dec 11 04:44:03 go intel if you can Dec 11 04:44:23 i jacked one from my lab Dec 11 04:44:29 which is ok cause im the lab manager Dec 11 04:44:36 we dont use ppc any more Dec 11 04:44:46 it would just collect dust Dec 11 04:44:49 * halfhalo got his intel ssd for free Dec 11 04:45:04 an intel one would be even better Dec 11 04:45:20 I really want the new MBA Dec 11 04:45:37 halfhalo, me too Dec 11 04:45:42 i havent had a desktop in FOREVER Dec 11 04:45:46 it's too bad the sales of that faster 256gb MBA module got cancelled Dec 11 04:45:48 im sick of laptops Dec 11 04:45:56 i want netbooks and desktops now Dec 11 04:46:02 it would replace my mac mini and my current laptop Dec 11 04:46:11 when i got my first laptop i said i wouldnt get a desktop again Dec 11 04:46:15 Honestly, the only things I do on either is code or internet Dec 11 04:46:16 but im sick of 3k laptops Dec 11 04:46:20 that dont last long Dec 11 04:46:27 same here Dec 11 04:46:29 what laptop do you have now? Dec 11 04:46:33 i could by 3 netbooks a year Dec 11 04:46:39 for the price of a laptop Dec 11 04:46:52 * halfhalo has a netbook somewhere in his room Dec 11 04:47:16 halfhalo, i have my old acer which is acting as my desktop right now (core duo, 2gig ram, ati x1600 w/ 512 mb ram) Dec 11 04:47:23 nice Dec 11 04:47:26 my work/school pc is a MBP Dec 11 04:47:29 core2duo Dec 11 04:47:31 4gig ram Dec 11 04:47:39 i have a eeepc Dec 11 04:47:43 that I love Dec 11 04:47:54 my mac mini server Dec 11 04:48:01 and a recently dead older MBP Dec 11 04:48:15 My current pc collection includes an Acer AS1410, Asus C90S, Lenovo T400, G4 Powerbook, Desktop, and Work MBP Dec 11 04:48:33 my bother got some sick deals on some Idea pads recently Dec 11 04:48:45 core i7 with gig mem of graphics mem Dec 11 04:48:48 and 6 gig ram Dec 11 04:48:51 for like 700 Dec 11 04:48:56 with 3 year at home service Dec 11 04:49:00 * halfhalo knows people Dec 11 04:49:11 its a perk of being part of the largest online notebook community Dec 11 04:49:34 700 for a baller laptop like that makes it hard to spend 300 on a netbook Dec 11 04:49:50 * oil waits for halfhalo to send him a laptop Dec 11 04:50:07 bah Dec 11 04:50:11 * rwhitby finds that Angry Birds Seasons is not hacked that easily - they have multiple layers of defence Dec 11 04:50:22 you can deliver your wirc patch on its harddrive :) Dec 11 04:50:31 * halfhalo has confidence in rwhitby's game hacking abilities Dec 11 04:50:33 trying to bypass having to actually go through the levels ? Dec 11 04:51:10 "who is this rod character with 999999999999999999 points?" Dec 11 04:51:19 heh, I may be getting a bunch of 6 core amd's soon Dec 11 04:51:40 too bad amd dont have HT Dec 11 04:51:50 yeah... but 6 cores! Dec 11 04:51:55 w/o HT Dec 11 04:51:57 boot Dec 11 04:51:59 boo Dec 11 04:52:12 bah Dec 11 04:52:19 they be free Dec 11 04:52:24 thats always good Dec 11 04:52:49 i once used a 3.x ghz p4 laptop with HT Dec 11 04:52:49 AHAHAHAHAH: http://forum.desktopreview.com/desktop-components/242119-how-ruin-pc.html#post2294602 Dec 11 04:52:59 it compiled openoffice from source in 32 min Dec 11 04:54:02 "As I said, I tried to do that by talking, but I'm really not much of a fighter and the last time he beat me up pretty good. " Dec 11 04:54:03 LOL Dec 11 04:54:23 ABS (Angry Birds Seasons) actually connects over the network to something to authorise the 25 days of christmas thing Dec 11 04:54:26 floppy disk bomb! Dec 11 04:54:59 it would be amusing to write a node.js server and redirect traffic to the local server for trickery Dec 11 04:56:18 OK, now they've put up the challenge, this thing *has* to be hacked. Dec 11 04:56:28 i... hmmm.... Dec 11 04:56:38 * halfhalo things the node server would work Dec 11 04:56:44 thinks Dec 11 04:57:03 You can't open a new day's level in airplane mode. Dec 11 04:57:07 damnit Dec 11 04:57:20 local server! Dec 11 04:57:24 this xp64 cd aint working Dec 11 04:57:36 it did in vmware but not when installing for real Dec 11 04:57:36 * halfhalo hates XP x64 Dec 11 04:57:47 i refuse to buy windows Dec 11 04:57:51 just to play a game Dec 11 04:57:57 * halfhalo has many windows keys Dec 11 04:58:00 * Clipper87 use linux... Dec 11 04:58:00 i got xp for 5 dollars from scool back in the day Dec 11 04:58:18 technet FTW Dec 11 04:58:39 halfhalo, get me win7! Dec 11 04:58:59 play on linux is great for playing windows games on linux Dec 11 04:59:13 lol, I gotta see if I have any keys left... I let my account expire right before they switched to the new retarded plans Dec 11 05:00:19 * PuffTheMagic is never gonna get to play civ tonight Dec 11 05:00:57 what Os you running puf? Dec 11 05:00:58 hey! Dec 11 05:01:04 * halfhalo has enterprise key! Dec 11 05:01:07 * SineOt got Win7Pro for 29$, which isn't that bad! Dec 11 05:01:09 * oil starts it up and plays a large game before puffy gets it installed Dec 11 05:01:25 Clipper87, linux and osx on various boxes Dec 11 05:01:36 but only my mbp is worht installing civ5 on Dec 11 05:01:40 and i cant use linux on it Dec 11 05:01:47 cause the multitouch tp is reatarded Dec 11 05:02:28 ok for linux install playonlinux you can install windows games Dec 11 05:02:43 playonlinux=wine=crap for dx10 Dec 11 05:03:27 Clipper87, i know how to use wine, it wont help me Dec 11 05:03:32 my acer has a r500 Dec 11 05:03:39 and its not supported by fglrx any more Dec 11 05:03:43 lol ya probly...I only used it for older stuff but I knew newer titles there too Dec 11 05:03:45 and opensource drivers arent good enough Dec 11 05:03:57 and the macbook has a crazy touchpad that is not worth trying to configure Dec 11 05:04:06 * halfhalo fires up the desktop Dec 11 05:04:13 so only option is dual booting on the mac Dec 11 05:04:28 heh.... grub... like I have actually booted ubuntu up on this thing Dec 11 05:04:30 ok, need to go onto 3G usb key so I can tcpdump on the wifi from the Pre 2 Dec 11 05:04:59 * halfhalo can fake a server if its tcp/http Dec 11 05:06:08 ya I have ubuntu dualbooted on my mac Dec 11 05:07:33 * halfhalo would look at angry birds code if he had a working pre Dec 11 05:07:42 real men run gentoo Dec 11 05:07:59 REAL men run windows and get the girls in the process Dec 11 05:08:16 lol Dec 11 05:08:28 REAL REAL men just run whatever the hell they want to because it works for them Dec 11 05:08:45 SineOt, nope Dec 11 05:08:57 amen to that SineOt Dec 11 05:09:17 * oil waits for rwhitby to say his "operating systems are just tools" line Dec 11 05:09:22 * PuffTheMagic can tell the ubuntu fanboys Dec 11 05:09:25 your a tool Dec 11 05:09:28 lol Dec 11 05:09:39 * oil can tell the gentoo fanboy Dec 11 05:09:40 * halfhalo uses ubuntu because he is lazy Dec 11 05:09:42 and puffy is the only one Dec 11 05:09:54 BAZING! Dec 11 05:10:00 lol Dec 11 05:10:03 * SineOt uses MEEGO, lol Dec 11 05:10:07 APC Dec 11 05:10:14 lol Dec 11 05:10:17 lol Dec 11 05:10:23 moo Dec 11 05:11:11 * PuffTheMagic looks at his forest of palm devices Dec 11 05:11:24 * halfhalo goes to find his pre plus Dec 11 05:11:29 man I have macOs and ubuntu on one and windows and debian on another and just windows on one just depend what I need Dec 11 05:11:59 hmm... it has a charge... Dec 11 05:12:14 grrrr Dec 11 05:12:21 44 min till win7 is donw downloading agian Dec 11 05:12:28 haha Dec 11 05:12:29 lol Dec 11 05:12:44 gotta love usenet Dec 11 05:12:50 Meego netbook is pretty nice Dec 11 05:13:00 so if Palm did hire the Meego design guy, then good move + Dec 11 05:14:25 oh... hey... its almost like I planned for this before... Dec 11 05:14:40 hm? Dec 11 05:14:43 * PuffTheMagic has killed a bottle of limoncello and is felling buzzed Dec 11 05:14:51 pre plus has no data connection Dec 11 05:15:18 wifi? Dec 11 05:15:25 yup, thats enabled Dec 11 05:16:09 * halfhalo fires up wireshark and sets his mini as the dns server for his network Dec 11 05:19:00 * halfhalo watches as the phone dies as he tries to do stuff to is Dec 11 05:21:50 * halfhalo begins setting up a node http proxy server in the mean time Dec 11 05:23:40 my thinking is I can setup a server that can act as the one its trying to contact and watch it being relayed through there, then slowly start to replicate it Dec 11 05:28:05 http://lod.angrybirdsgame.com/?device=palm&date=2010-12-11&verision=1.1.1 Dec 11 05:28:18 error,1,today,2010-12-10,seconds-to-next,9141,uid,1292045259.2948-5244 Dec 11 05:28:32 very interesting Dec 11 05:28:34 http://lod.angrybirdsgame.com/?device=palm&date=2010-12-10&verision=1.1.1 Dec 11 05:28:37 url,http://do67i5i8yo2gb.cloudfront.net/4d00e0ca935689.32612932/LevelP1_639.lua,today,2010-12-10,seconds-to-next,9128,uid,1292045272.612-19453 Dec 11 05:29:01 The new levels are downloaded Dec 11 05:29:25 interesting... Dec 11 05:30:03 and sneaky... those bastards Dec 11 06:20:21 anyone watch the show The Good Guys? Dec 11 06:20:28 im so glad that added Angela Sarafyan Dec 11 06:20:29 mmmmmm Dec 11 06:20:50 lol Dec 11 06:20:58 havent seen it in a while Dec 11 13:54:59 Good Morning Dec 11 14:42:26 'morning all Dec 11 14:49:12 Hi all! Still no luck with ipkg-opt on webos 2; anyone has ideas? Dec 11 14:49:35 rwhitby: Did you get my patch? :) Dec 11 16:05:01 destinal-sleep: ping =) I've spotted the problem with ocaml install. df returns 62 MB available for /dev/mapper/store-var , whereas ocaml requires 105 MB or so. Any idea about what I should do? Dec 11 16:11:22 good evening ( or morning or afternoon depending on your geolocation ) Dec 11 16:12:20 I was wondering if there was a free alternative to MyTether? Dec 11 16:17:07 is no one at keyboards this morning? Dec 11 16:24:22 good evening ( or morning or afternoon depending on your geolocation ) - I was wondering if there was a free alternative to MyTether? Dec 11 16:30:52 good evening ( or morning or afternoon depending on your geolocation ) - I was wondering if there was a free alternative to MyTether? Dec 11 16:41:22 good evening ( or morning or afternoon depending on your geolocation ) - I was wondering if there was a free alternative to MyTether? Dec 11 17:24:19 rwhitby: how big did /var used to be? Dec 11 17:24:33 * destinal pulls out pre Dec 11 17:25:04 * halfhalo found his pre and it works! Dec 11 17:25:42 halfhalo: was there doubt of this? Dec 11 17:25:52 yes Dec 11 17:26:30 since when I switched to the epic I just sorta shut the pre off, but apparently it automagically disabled the data connection to sprint Dec 11 17:26:47 it be slow though Dec 11 17:27:23 rwhitby: nevermind, looks like var isn't that big originally. probably will require a resize for what createsoftware wants to do Dec 11 17:27:43 heh Dec 11 17:28:07 * halfhalo cheated and found ocaml on ze computer for downloads Dec 11 17:33:01 anyone use roadrunner here? Dec 11 17:33:46 meep meep Dec 11 17:34:37 heh, trying to see what I can do to get a new cable modem for it Dec 11 17:35:08 halfhalo: you like epic? Dec 11 17:35:11 oh....I thought you meant pre2! Dec 11 17:35:14 nope Dec 11 17:35:24 nope to what? Dec 11 17:35:34 nope to liking epic Dec 11 17:35:56 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1066707656.png <-- I get that with a modem thats maybe 10 years old Dec 11 17:38:30 which is nice, since I'm only paying for the 15/1 plan Dec 11 17:40:14 halfhalo: I heard a lot of people disappointed with it moving from pre. what about android vs webos? Dec 11 17:40:27 * halfhalo hates android Dec 11 17:40:44 Its just... not polished Dec 11 17:40:48 http://montage.cloudapp.net/edit/43e839b0-2d55-4b9d-9881-429f9380a9f3?topic=webos Dec 11 17:41:59 Its sorta like how webOS is lacking in the functionality dept, while android is lacking in the prettyness/ease of use dept. Dec 11 17:43:54 in other news, I just totally figured out why my network in my room is never getting to wifi n speeds! Dec 11 17:44:40 the stupid printer is connecting to the network! Dec 11 17:45:00 good evening ( or morning or afternoon depending on your geolocation ) - I was wondering if there was a free alternative to MyTether? Dec 11 17:48:38 halfhalo: ah.. that's why it's best to have a 5ghz N network also Dec 11 17:48:53 wish more devices supported it Dec 11 17:49:00 I have one of those... but it doesn't reach my room Dec 11 17:49:08 * halfhalo has a crazy setup Dec 11 17:49:49 hey everyone, who knows where are the save files stored (from save-restore) so I can restore the files on another Pre? :) Dec 11 17:50:43 NuttyBunny: have you looked in /media/internal Dec 11 17:50:59 I think it's intended you can copy them around with usb mass storage mode Dec 11 17:51:51 no :D let me check so I can restore my save games ;) I decided to activate the Pre Plus on Telcel Mexico, let's see how this goes Dec 11 17:52:33 NuttyBunny: ah, giving up your chance at paid apps for profile access? Dec 11 17:53:07 I got paid apps :D Dec 11 17:53:36 it works? or just copied from the other device? Dec 11 17:54:42 or is the other device your primary one and this just for development, or.. Dec 11 17:54:46 * destinal needs coffee Dec 11 17:55:45 no, it just works, this wil be the main (the Plus), and the Pre will be for develop and hacking. It's been all morning downloading and installing my apps :) Dec 11 17:56:10 oh, nice. so I guess the worries about paid app access were unfounded for telcel mexico. good. Dec 11 17:56:38 you can actually browse and get other stuff or just the ones you already bought? Dec 11 17:57:12 * halfhalo goes to pep-boys Dec 11 18:16:33 destinal: I already bought Angry Birds Seasons :D so, it works as intended Dec 11 18:16:43 lol Dec 11 18:16:45 nice Dec 11 18:17:04 I still have to finish angry birds before I can justify that Dec 11 18:17:30 I'm copying everything from my Pre usb partition, and now I'll copy that to the Plus :D Dec 11 18:17:38 brb Dec 11 18:35:38 o.k. - so I thought MyTether was free?? or at least had a free version.. wtf? Dec 11 18:39:07 does anyones pre in silent mode vibrate while on the touchstone? Dec 11 18:39:38 pretty sure mine does Dec 11 18:42:54 i was sure mine did too, but when I tested it, it doesn't Dec 11 18:43:07 PreGal: you mean freetether? Dec 11 18:43:11 so I can't tell I'm getting calls when the ringer switch is off and it's charging. Dec 11 18:44:18 doesn't seem to be a patch for that either hmm Dec 11 18:44:23 Loudergood: hmm - no - but does freetether work just the same? - There used to be free and donation fee MyTether versions... but now only by donation - which isn't a freakin donation then... Dec 11 18:44:54 Robi_: my palm vibrates when I get a call and it's charging and sound is off... Dec 11 18:45:12 I have no idea, I don't have anywhere near enough data on my plan to bother with tethering Dec 11 18:45:37 gotchya - thanks I'll hafta look up and read up on FreeTether Dec 11 18:45:51 PreGal: charging on usb or touchstone? Dec 11 18:46:01 Both... Dec 11 18:46:28 then again - my boyfriend spent 4 days modding my Pre out - so... Dec 11 18:46:34 could have been a patch Dec 11 18:46:34 what is your setting in sounds&ringtones for ringer off ? Dec 11 18:48:03 Vibrate Dec 11 18:48:32 destinal: ping =) Dec 11 18:48:56 same Dec 11 18:49:11 createsoftware: hey Dec 11 18:49:16 createsoftware: yeah /var is too small Dec 11 18:49:26 yup =) Dec 11 18:49:38 you can resize it if you don't care much about your /media volume Dec 11 18:49:55 not at all =) Dec 11 18:50:40 (additional question btw, where are sms messages stored in WebOS2? PalmDatabase.db3 is gone, and I'd love to back them up in case I crash my phone at some point) Dec 11 18:50:47 How would I resize? Dec 11 18:53:37 createsoftware: dunnore the databases in 2.0 but I think they have their own partition Dec 11 18:53:56 s/nore/no wrt/ Dec 11 18:53:57 destinal meant: createsoftware: dunno wrt the databases in 2.0 but I think they have their own partition Dec 11 18:54:10 ok =) Dec 11 18:54:20 woo, sed syntax ?? Dec 11 18:54:29 s/??/rocks!/ Dec 11 18:54:30 createsoftware meant: woo, sed syntax rocks! Dec 11 18:54:45 now that does rock Dec 11 18:55:25 (sorry) Dec 11 18:57:17 ~botsnack Dec 11 18:57:17 halfhalo: thanks Dec 11 18:57:44 halfhalo: =) Dec 11 18:58:18 I wish I could watch my Pre on my TV.... Dec 11 18:58:33 bah, there's no patch that seems to prevent vibration while on touchstone Dec 11 18:59:06 Robi_ I'll ask my bf what he did to it - he's made some custom patches... Dec 11 18:59:28 he was pissed that I would sit at work all day and NEVER know he called.. Dec 11 18:59:35 so he made sure it vibrates.. Dec 11 19:00:52 destinal: So, how do I resize the partition? Dec 11 19:00:57 Should /var be resized? Dec 11 19:01:03 createsoftware: it's on the wiki Dec 11 19:01:10 Woops, sorry =) Dec 11 19:02:16 PreGal: thank you.. msg me when you find out so I don't miss it :P Dec 11 19:02:33 or twitter @vRobM Dec 11 19:02:43 destinal: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Solution_to_App_Catalog_Installation_Limit ? Dec 11 19:03:13 i wonder if disable charging alert sound breaks it Dec 11 19:04:06 hey Robi_ - try messaging him at twitter he's @NickBach Dec 11 19:04:23 createsoftware: hmm. there's another solution that involves just creating a new partition Dec 11 19:04:31 oh? Dec 11 19:04:32 err LVM volume Dec 11 19:04:42 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Alt_optmedia ? Dec 11 19:04:45 isn't it? Dec 11 19:04:47 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Alt_optmedia Dec 11 19:04:50 heh yes Dec 11 19:05:09 hey - does anyone know how to get the pre to be recognized by a PS3?? to stream video or transfer files to? Dec 11 19:05:20 Or this =) http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/203595-webosdr-setting-partition-file-sizes-get-around-memory-limitation.html#post1901300 ? Dec 11 19:06:00 Ok, I'll try to read these =) I'll post a note here :) Thanks again for your kind help! Dec 11 19:06:06 Bye! Dec 11 19:06:25 createsoftware: ah yeah that last one would actually let you just resize var and not have to change anything else Dec 11 19:06:32 maybe easiest Dec 11 19:06:41 cool =) I'll do that one then Dec 11 19:07:12 PreGal: you'd have to run some sort of DLNA server on the pre.. bit much imo Dec 11 19:09:39 Robi_: I don't know, not that bad Dec 11 19:10:01 may already be something in optware and the pre may be powerful enough Dec 11 19:10:30 PreGal: of course you could just mount it as a USB disk in the PS3 instead right? Dec 11 19:10:49 seems easier Dec 11 19:11:22 Mount it as a USB? ie plugging it into the PS3? Dec 11 19:12:02 when i plug my pre into the Ps3 it doesn't recognize it Dec 11 19:12:22 it recognizes I plugged something in - but when I select USB - nothing.. Dec 11 19:13:04 hmmm Dec 11 19:13:41 it has to be in usb mode Dec 11 19:14:22 lol i KNOW that it has to be in USB mode.. :-p Dec 11 19:15:00 PreGal: I don't know about good DLNA servers unfortunately. can the PS3 stream from windows file shares? Dec 11 19:15:05 if so you could just run samba Dec 11 19:17:47 bbl Dec 11 19:18:34 destinal - yeah it can - but I was hoping for just straight from Palm to PS3 Dec 11 19:18:49 PreGal: I mean run samba _on_ the pre Dec 11 19:18:58 so that it shows up as a windows file share Dec 11 19:19:00 ahh gotchya - mmk off to try it Dec 11 19:19:13 PreGal: optware should have samba in it Dec 11 22:52:36 in addition to the rdxd service sending palm a snapshot of all of my logs everyday, I also noticed this /var/context/contextfile which appears to log every event I use on the gui... Dec 11 22:53:13 this dir also contains a pending folder, anyone know which service logs all of this info and uploads it? Dec 11 22:59:45 destinal-elsewhe: createsoftware could find his SMS messages easily with Impostah Dec 11 23:01:09 He could also use the EXT3 extra partition support in MetaDoctor to create a new partition for /opt Dec 11 23:01:40 cheetahw28: uploadd Dec 11 23:02:30 thats what I figured, but I couldn't find any more info on uploadd Dec 11 23:04:43 MetaDoctor can disable it on first flash, and UberKernel disables it in the postinst. Dec 11 23:05:06 destinal-elsewhe: Everything worked perfectly, following method described at http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/203595-webosdr-setting-partition-file-sizes-get-around-memory-limitation.html#post1901300 =) Ocaml works flawlessly, this absolutely rocks =) Good luck with the console fixes :) Dec 11 23:05:36 cheetahw28: note that MetaDoctor has an option for automatically creating a custom-sized ext3 partition Dec 11 23:05:42 rwhitby: Thanks for your help, too, btw; thanks for everything, actually =) Dec 11 23:05:53 createsoftware: and you can find your SMS messages using Impostah Dec 11 23:06:02 oh? Dec 11 23:06:08 Wuzzit? Dec 11 23:06:17 Impostah, in the app testing feed. Dec 11 23:06:21 s/Wuzzit/What is it?/ Dec 11 23:06:23 createsoftware meant: What is it?? Dec 11 23:06:28 It's the latest app which I have been working on. Dec 11 23:06:32 Hihi, I really love that thing Dec 11 23:06:43 awesome, I'll test it straight away =) Dec 11 23:06:50 Where is the sms db located, btw? Dec 11 23:06:58 It's in db8 Dec 11 23:07:08 ? Dec 11 23:07:08 Use Impostah, then you will understand Dec 11 23:07:14 Ok ;) Dec 11 23:10:07 app testing feed then Dec 11 23:10:55 createsoftware: source code is in our git repo Dec 11 23:13:23 what would I use the custom-sized ext3 partition for? Dec 11 23:14:25 if it's just uploadd, I can disable it just by editing the config file in /etc/event.d/uploadd, right ? Dec 11 23:15:05 cheetahw28: anything you want to, for instance 125MB of ocaml Dec 11 23:15:20 cheetahw28: just chmod -x /usr/sbin/uploadd Dec 11 23:15:29 rwhitby: Hmmm, can't find it. Is http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all the right feed? Dec 11 23:15:37 createsoftware: armv7 Dec 11 23:15:39 (pre2 running webos2) Dec 11 23:15:41 allright Dec 11 23:15:42 ~testing-feeds Dec 11 23:15:42 from memory, testing-feeds is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Dec 11 23:15:53 ok =) Dec 11 23:16:05 ~botsnack Dec 11 23:16:05