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Dec 14 03:00:28 <rwhitby> bpadalino: can you paste the full error?
Dec 14 03:00:44 <bpadalino> but of course
Dec 14 03:01:05 <bpadalino> http://pastie.textmate.org/private/goa1wzckcdpk92nvu1ow
Dec 14 03:04:55 <bpadalino> OOHH, can't run on a mac ..
Dec 14 03:04:58 <bpadalino> due to tar stuff
Dec 14 03:05:06 <bpadalino> is that the issue ?
Dec 14 03:05:08 * halfhalo runs it on a mac....
Dec 14 03:05:12 * oil is sure rwhitby developed it and runs it on a mac
Dec 14 03:06:44 <bpadalino> well shoot ..
Dec 14 03:06:47 <rwhitby> bpadalino: those leading underscores on the filenames are not good
Dec 14 03:07:00 <bpadalino> any idea how they got there ?
Dec 14 03:07:01 <rwhitby> and I do develop and run it on a mac
Dec 14 03:07:54 <bpadalino> ah, it seems my gnutar wasn't from ports .. that may be problematic
Dec 14 03:12:34 <takeadare_> Lol. So I converted my system font to Ubuntu font without any catastrophe's...
Dec 14 03:12:49 <bpadalino> yeah - that was it .. how ridiculous :(
Dec 14 03:13:15 <takeadare_> Looks prettier. Not that Prelude isn't nice and all
Dec 14 03:14:14 <rwhitby> bpadalino: tar is the bane of meta-doctor's existence
Dec 14 03:14:28 <bpadalino> it seems like it
Dec 14 03:15:09 <bpadalino> it's flashing now, tho
Dec 14 03:15:18 <bpadalino> and my nose is cold :(
Dec 14 03:15:34 <halfhalo> lol
Dec 14 03:18:09 <destinal> bpadalino: yeah ports ftw
Dec 14 03:19:44 <SineOt> takeadare_: how'd you do that?
Dec 14 03:23:51 <takeadare_> If you go to your phone's '/usr/share/fonts/' file, they're all there. I used the hammer method and just renamed Ubuntu fonts as 'Prelude-Medium' 'Prelude-Oblique' etc.
Dec 14 03:24:14 <SineOt> What format does it take? TTF?
Dec 14 03:24:24 <takeadare_> and overwrote the original fonts. Backing up the originals on my computer of course
Dec 14 03:24:26 <takeadare_> TTF.
Dec 14 03:25:23 <takeadare_> Ubuntu Fonts haven't come out with a 'Condensed' version yet, so I'm waiting for that one, still have the original Prelude-Condensed files on there
Dec 14 03:25:51 <takeadare_> I'm sure you could do it with any font of course.
Dec 14 03:26:37 <SineOt> Yeah, I might try something like DIN
Dec 14 03:28:29 <takeadare_> DIN is nice. I'm a bit of a font nerd and have recently fallen for the Ubuntu font. Everything I have is currently using it, just wanted to see if it was possible to make my phone use it too
Dec 14 03:29:24 <takeadare_> I'm sure next month I'll move onto another font. It was such a slick change I'll probably do it again, lol.
Dec 14 03:29:52 <takeadare_> Maybe I'll try my hand at making a quick shell program to make it easier.
Dec 14 03:30:24 <SineOt> Yeah, the Ubuntu font is nice. I like it.
Dec 14 04:56:29 <scoutcamper> net split much?
Dec 14 04:57:35 <halfhalo> nope
Dec 14 05:00:34 * halfhalo waits for another split
Dec 14 05:01:24 <scoutcamper> netsplit much?
Dec 14 05:01:38 <scoutcamper> halfhalo, wonder whats up
Dec 14 05:02:03 <SineOt> Gawker is DDOS'ing Freenode
Dec 14 05:02:06 <halfhalo> Its the goverment ahs tells ya!
Dec 14 05:02:08 * SineOt is totally making stuff up
Dec 14 05:03:54 * scoutcamper blames wikileaks, as rwhitby referenced them in a new impostah
Dec 14 05:51:39 <NuttyBunny> So, did halfhalo manage to rewrite the entire patches page in an hour? ;)
Dec 14 05:51:48 <halfhalo> yes
Dec 14 05:52:19 <cryptk> lol
Dec 14 05:53:01 <NuttyBunny> lol :D
Dec 14 05:53:19 <NuttyBunny> Excellent!  Congratulations ;)
Dec 14 05:54:56 <cryptk> I am still seeing the same patches page
Dec 14 05:57:10 <tmzt> halfhalo: you use persvr?
Dec 14 05:57:25 <tmzt> I think I wrote that in asp.net for my last project
Dec 14 05:57:33 <tmzt> but it looks like exactly what I need
Dec 14 05:59:41 <halfhalo> tmzt: niet
Dec 14 06:00:28 * halfhalo uses mongoose for that
Dec 14 06:00:55 <tmzt> for data objects?
Dec 14 06:01:21 <halfhalo> yup
Dec 14 06:01:25 <tmzt> that's what I'm looking at, I used jsonrpc with dojo but I had to write all the crud stuff in c# by hand
Dec 14 06:01:34 <tmzt> so I'm looking for something that just builds it
Dec 14 06:03:49 <tmzt> hah, c ok
Dec 14 07:33:26 <mpingu> hi
Dec 14 07:54:21 <rwhitby> g'day mpingu
Dec 14 08:16:42 <hape_> rwhitby: du you know if I save my cryped folder from the usb partinion and restor it afer a doctor. Will it be usable by the device ordo the doctoring chnage the encryption?
Dec 14 08:17:20 <cryptk> the cryptofs?
Dec 14 08:17:24 <rwhitby> cryptofs is based on salted nduid
Dec 14 08:18:20 <hape_> rwhitby: What mean no it will not, thanks. Then I have to tar it unencrypred first to be sure I have all data
Dec 14 08:30:11 <tmzt> what is that rwhitby?
Dec 14 08:37:30 <ice8lue> gmorning!
Dec 14 08:39:44 <ice8lue> would it be possible to move the virtual keyboard into a dashboard scene? that way it wouldn't take so much space over for example the messaging app
Dec 14 08:39:48 <hape_> ice8lue: Hi, bin wie du richtig vermutestes auch aus Deutschland
Dec 14 08:40:32 <ice8lue> hape: hab schon gelesen ;) gut zu wissen
Dec 14 08:40:53 <hape_> wo bist du beheimartet? Ich in FFM.
Dec 14 08:41:03 <hape_> unter der Woche aber meist in Köln
Dec 14 08:41:19 <ice8lue> Chemnitz im schönen Sachsen
Dec 14 08:43:34 <ice8lue> weißt du ob das gehen würde mit dem vk?
Dec 14 08:45:47 <hape_> keinen Pla, da bin ich überfragt
Dec 14 08:45:54 <ka6sox> bork bork bork bork
Dec 14 08:46:27 <ice8lue> schade, wäre sehr praktisch
Dec 14 08:46:43 <hape_> ka6sox: lol, we switch abck to english and move the German into a private window
Dec 14 08:46:54 <omenshanep> hows everyone doing? :)
Dec 14 08:47:18 <ice8lue> kk so english now ;)
Dec 14 08:47:41 <hape_> I'm fine, thanks. nly the driving is dangerouse today as we had snow allover germany yesterday evening
Dec 14 08:48:22 <omenshanep> would anyone know why quick install won't recognize my pre? It won't even open the options menu
Dec 14 08:48:37 <ice8lue> same over here...can't say for sure that i was driving on a street. everything is plain white arround
Dec 14 08:48:44 <omenshanep> could windows 7 have anything to do with it?
Dec 14 08:49:41 <ice8lue> omenshanep: not really, am using it on win 7 too. do you use an oler java version? is novacom installed?
Dec 14 08:50:41 <omenshanep> I updated java to the most recent versioni
Dec 14 08:50:55 <omenshanep> but I wasn't able to get novacom installed
Dec 14 08:51:43 <omenshanep> I've read that it's supposed to auto install it when the device is connected or you can go to the options menu and do it there
Dec 14 08:52:09 <ice8lue> ya right. the menus take a while to load
Dec 14 08:52:42 <omenshanep> the option menu won't even open up for me for some reason, i've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling and rebooting both the computer and the device
Dec 14 08:53:15 <omenshanep> I waited a good 10min with no sucess
Dec 14 08:54:34 <ice8lue> hm thats strange... i've read that the most recent java updte has some bugs... didn't know there were problems with quick install though...
Dec 14 08:55:59 <omenshanep> yeah, I'm actually on my pixi right now that has preware already installed on it I did with another computer. I don't know why I'm having trouble doing it now
Dec 14 08:56:58 <ice8lue> if you want to install preware, check get.preware.org to get the installer. it's a standalone tool
Dec 14 08:57:57 <omenshanep> i've tried the standalone as well. That wouldn't even open for me and I have the webosdoctor in the same folder
Dec 14 08:58:18 <ice8lue> Oo and the pre is in dev mode?
Dec 14 08:58:32 <cryptk> omenshanep, is novacom installed? if so try restarting the novacom service... if that doesn't do it, then try restarting BOTH the phone and the computer
Dec 14 08:58:37 <omenshanep> yup, it's in dev mode
Dec 14 08:58:57 <ice8lue> cryptk: he did
Dec 14 08:59:20 <cryptk> phone being in dev mode isn't the same as novacom being installed...
Dec 14 08:59:29 <cryptk> is novacom installed on the computer you are having issues with?
Dec 14 08:59:41 <cryptk> (by the way, webos quick install is not made by webos-internals)
Dec 14 08:59:56 <omenshanep> I can't get novacom to install, it won't even allow me to open the options menu. And I have tried restarting both the computer and the pre with no success
Dec 14 09:00:15 <cryptk> what won't let you open the options menu?
Dec 14 09:00:34 <omenshanep> webos quick install
Dec 14 09:00:35 <cryptk> webos quick install?
Dec 14 09:00:51 <cryptk> hrm, seems like a quick install bug then, have you tried downloading a fresh copy of quick install?
Dec 14 09:01:18 <omenshanep> yup, I uninstalled and reinstalled it
Dec 14 09:01:33 <omenshanep> I wonder if I should try a later version
Dec 14 09:02:20 <ice8lue> i think 3.14 is the latest one
Dec 14 09:02:41 <cryptk> one moment, gotta work
Dec 14 09:03:03 <omenshanep> yeah I have the 3.14
Dec 14 09:05:19 <ice8lue> have to go now -> university
Dec 14 09:05:25 <ice8lue> cu guys ;)
Dec 14 09:05:36 <omenshanep> I dunnoz, well thanks for the help
Dec 14 09:05:42 <omenshanep> I appreciate it
Dec 14 09:05:53 <omenshanep> laterz
Dec 14 09:29:49 <msd18> hey ppl
Dec 14 09:30:00 <cryptk> hola
Dec 14 09:30:29 <msd18> hows it going
Dec 14 12:02:03 <ice8lue> HEYHO1
Dec 14 12:02:06 <ice8lue> oops^^
Dec 14 12:03:33 <ice8lue> is anyone online involved into the virtual keyboard patch?
Dec 14 12:16:48 <cryptk> for which device?
Dec 14 12:17:02 <cryptk> damn, left already... again... I am having bad luck tonight
Dec 14 12:50:58 <rwhitby> cryptk: his bad luck, not yours.
Dec 14 12:53:07 <cryptk> good point
Dec 14 14:44:47 <Matchless> Hi there
Dec 14 14:45:07 <Matchless> webosinternals on twitter announced preware 1.4.7
Dec 14 15:26:38 <Rick_work> morning.
Dec 14 15:29:16 <MetaView> hi
Dec 14 15:58:51 <halfhalo> hola everyone
Dec 14 16:30:17 <slydog43> Im trying to make a patch for 2.01 (date & time in top bar)  I have the new bar-assistant.js which works on my phone and in emulator, but only if I uplaod the file with Quick Install, how do I package it into a patch (JR DIff gives me and error when I try and install)
Dec 14 16:31:31 <slydog43> any1 know how to browse files a 2.01 device or emulator, WebOS QI seems to keep me in the root
Dec 14 16:34:56 <AStice> slydog43: The SDK has a jar file you can use under PDK/share/jars/
Dec 14 16:35:29 <AStice> But you need early access
Dec 14 16:37:13 <AStice> If I remember properly webOS Quick Install requires you to do everything in one line, but I can't remember exactly how to do it
Dec 14 16:37:36 <AStice> It involves a semicolon
Dec 14 16:47:39 <slydog43> its weird, QI wont let me chage directory (ie   if I cd usr and do a ls it still shows root)
Dec 14 16:48:07 <halfhalo> cd /usr; ls
Dec 14 16:49:03 <slydog43> wow THANKS AStice, Jar file is just what I needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 14 16:49:45 <slydog43> halfhalo, love irc thanks that worked
Dec 14 16:50:52 <AStice> Knew it had a semicolon. Need to set up a linux box so I can get reacquainted
Dec 14 16:53:30 <slydog43> no any1 know how to make a 2.01 compatible patch (what tool do I use if I have the modified js file(s), I dont think I can use Jason's Diff prg)
Dec 14 16:54:40 <destinal> ok just unboxed pre2 and I've already forgotten all about that silver button.  why was that there in the first place, and what button was I talking about?  :)
Dec 14 16:54:55 <halfhalo> lol
Dec 14 16:55:56 <destinal> and I forgot, there was something.. over.. the usb port, nevermind :P
Dec 14 17:04:48 <destinal> by the way for anyone with a new pre2 that's not going to be immediately activated, Palm's devicetool.jar works perfectly to bypass activation
Dec 14 17:05:00 <destinal> you just need to add the roadrunner installer uImage into it like so
Dec 14 17:05:02 <destinal> mkdir -p com/palm/webos/devicetool/images/; cp /srv/doctors/unpacked/webosdoctorp102ueuna-wr-2.0.1/webOS/nova-installer-image-roadrunner.uImage com/palm/webos/devicetool/images;  zip devicetool.jar com/palm/webos/devicetool/images/nova-installer-image-roadrunner.uImage
Dec 14 17:10:15 <Loudergood> mine came already bypassed!
Dec 14 17:12:16 <destinal> Loudergood: hmm, devdays?
Dec 14 17:12:31 <Loudergood> yes, thank you palm
Dec 14 17:13:06 <destinal> the ones ordered online as unlocked pre2 aren't necessarily dev only, so yeah, devicetool ftw.  trivially easy though.
Dec 14 17:13:34 <destinal> run that command, boot with volume up,  java -jar devicetool.jar,  plug it in, and done
Dec 14 17:14:20 <destinal> metadoctor's great but unless I actually need to change the base image significantly, I'll pass thanks :)
Dec 14 17:15:03 <egaudet> destinal: how does the devicetool work
Dec 14 17:15:24 <egaudet> is it just booting the installer image, touching a file on rootfs and rebooting?
Dec 14 17:15:25 <destinal> egaudet: like the doctor, it includes novacom java classes that talk to the local novacom daemon
Dec 14 17:15:31 <destinal> and yeah that's what it does.
Dec 14 17:15:58 <egaudet> why is the manually packing in the installer needed?
Dec 14 17:16:13 <destinal> egaudet: devicetool was made pre roadrunner and they haven't updated it yet
Dec 14 17:16:43 <destinal> fortunately it checks the system's model name and looks for a uImage with that name in it so it's really east to add support for a new device to devicetool
Dec 14 17:16:55 <destinal> s/east/easy/
Dec 14 17:16:56 <infobot> destinal meant: fortunately it checks the system's model name and looks for a uImage with that name in it so it's really easy to add support for a new device to devicetool
Dec 14 17:16:57 <egaudet> ahh ok cool
Dec 14 17:19:04 <destinal> egaudet: if only devicetool included a novacom installer for each platform (or they were downloadable separately) we'd be golden for preware installs, but it's a tool for developers so it assumes use of the SDK
Dec 14 17:22:18 <egaudet> has anyone attempted novacom driver for device?
Dec 14 17:25:13 <destinal> egaudet: bpadalino did a good basic open source one a while ago but it hasn't been worked on much since
Dec 14 17:25:18 <destinal> only has a few functions
Dec 14 17:28:24 <egaudet> that's the host side right?
Dec 14 17:29:07 <egaudet> I was thinking what would it take to distribute a devicetool preware installer type deal, but I suppose that's overkill from what we already have
Dec 14 17:30:29 * halfhalo has a mockup of what a new patches portal could look like with his imited (read: crap) styling skills
Dec 14 17:30:44 <halfhalo> well, one page at least
Dec 14 17:31:05 <Loudergood> 1995tablezrule.css?
Dec 14 17:31:10 <halfhalo> https://patch.preyourmind.org/
Dec 14 17:32:13 <Loudergood> also http://cert.startcom.org/
Dec 14 17:32:41 <Loudergood> other than the blue in the top right I'd say I like it
Dec 14 17:32:51 <halfhalo> that defeats the purpose of self signed certs!
Dec 14 17:33:05 <halfhalo> the blue is there just so I could see where the div ended up
Dec 14 17:33:11 <Loudergood> you skill level is up there with mine!
Dec 14 17:33:14 <Loudergood> your*
Dec 14 17:34:19 <jhojho> you have a bad nginx config
Dec 14 17:34:25 <egaudet> sorry halfhalo not trusted!
Dec 14 17:34:26 <jhojho> http://patch.preyourmind.org/ still tries to ask for ssl
Dec 14 17:34:32 * halfhalo knows
Dec 14 17:34:37 <halfhalo> I did it on purpose
Dec 14 17:34:57 <jhojho> dude, get a real cert
Dec 14 17:35:02 <jhojho> there are free certs now
Dec 14 17:35:12 * halfhalo wants the error there for this type of stuff
Dec 14 17:35:50 <halfhalo> basically, scares off people who shouldn't be there anywho
Dec 14 17:36:23 * halfhalo has a paid for cert somewhere though
Dec 14 17:37:00 <egaudet> scares off people who shouldn't be there?  why
Dec 14 17:38:25 <halfhalo> because its usually something in active development (IE I'm pushing changes out live)
Dec 14 17:39:57 * halfhalo disabled redirecting to https just for you
Dec 14 17:40:13 <egaudet> why
Dec 14 17:41:35 <halfhalo> because its one line commented out to do it and people were complaining?
Dec 14 17:42:05 <egaudet> would you answer if I asked why again
Dec 14 17:42:13 <halfhalo> possibly
Dec 14 17:42:19 <egaudet> why
Dec 14 17:42:24 <halfhalo> shits n giggles
Dec 14 17:42:31 <egaudet> lol
Dec 14 17:43:48 <halfhalo> DAMN!  Though yup a better one
Dec 14 17:50:15 * halfhalo slaps oil with a large php frames compatible trout
Dec 14 18:12:47 <halfhalo> oilsworkn: http://patch.preyourmind.org/
Dec 14 20:30:57 <oil> halfhalo: wow thats ugly, lol
Dec 14 20:36:32 * halfhalo slaps oil with a sword
Dec 14 22:10:39 <rwhitby> halfhalo: you should work on rewriting PreLoad next, you might be able to make it uglier.
Dec 14 22:18:27 <halfhalo> lol
Dec 14 22:19:03 * halfhalo knows he can't style for crap, but at least this time its actually using styles!
Dec 14 22:19:53 <halfhalo> and suggestions always welcome
Dec 14 22:23:07 <halfhalo> you know what it needs? drop shadows.  which shall be added after I take this final
Dec 14 22:26:10 <Loudergood> don't forget the marquee and blink tags...people always seem to
Dec 14 22:26:49 <halfhalo> bah, those arn't web 2.0y
Dec 14 22:27:15 <halfhalo> rounded corners plus drop shadows is all ya need!
Dec 14 22:27:25 <Tibfib> halfhalo: and backgrounds
Dec 14 22:27:43 <halfhalo> that as well
Dec 14 22:29:08 <halfhalo> what it really needs is color tweaking and the side menu blue frigger to go away
Dec 14 22:33:39 <rwhitby> Has anyone tested Preware 1.4.7 ?
Dec 14 22:38:24 <halfhalo> nope sorry
Dec 14 22:44:56 <Loudergood> just updated
Dec 14 23:32:31 <Spanska> Is the bluetooth stack coming with the Palm Pre able to connect to another smartphone with DUN and use that other smartphone 3G connection?
Dec 14 23:33:23 <rwhitby-pre> not that I've seen
Dec 14 23:39:20 <Spanska> would you know what bluetooth stack is runs on the Pre?
Dec 14 23:39:27 <Spanska> -is
Dec 15 00:27:50 <Clipper87> i have a question
Dec 15 00:28:41 <Clipper87> i had a theme installed on my pre 2...then i updated to 2.0.1 and now preware doesnt see that i have a theme installed so...i have no idea how to get rid of it
Dec 15 00:33:39 <Clipper87> hello?
Dec 15 00:41:39 <Clipper87> anyone out there?
Dec 15 00:43:58 <destinal-pre> no
Dec 15 00:44:12 * halfhalo died in a fire
Dec 15 00:44:16 <Clipper87> lol...i have a question
Dec 15 00:44:31 <Clipper87> i had a theme installed on my pre 2...then i updated to 2.0.1 and now preware doesnt see that i have a theme installed so...i have no idea how to get rid of it
Dec 15 00:44:48 * halfhalo can't help
Dec 15 00:45:01 <destinal-pre> I don't know about theme patch testing for 2.0 yet.. sorry
Dec 15 00:48:40 <Clipper87> ccrrraaappp i guess ill have to wipe it
Dec 15 00:49:22 <Clipper87> i know the themes have been working...i have been installing and uninstalling themes just when i upgraded things went to hell
Dec 15 00:50:08 <Clipper87> is there a way to unintalled packages from the command line
Dec 15 00:51:57 <egaudet> Clipper87, is the theme the only thing preware doesn't see as installed now?
Dec 15 00:52:32 <Clipper87> yes egaudet
Dec 15 00:55:50 <Clipper87> all the other apps and patches and stuff i had is still there just this stupid theme ...
Dec 15 00:56:13 <rwhitby> Clipper87: themes must always be removed before OTA update
Dec 15 00:56:25 <Clipper87> shat...and if i didnt?
Dec 15 00:56:47 <halfhalo> theres an app for that
Dec 15 00:56:49 <rwhitby> you're stuffed
Dec 15 00:57:06 <Clipper87> ...theres nothing i can do?
Dec 15 00:57:15 <halfhalo> isn't there like a epc or something for it?
Dec 15 00:57:18 <rwhitby> usually the answer would be to use the webos repair tool from Jason R, but I don't think he's updated that for 2.0 yet
Dec 15 00:57:25 <halfhalo> ah
Dec 15 00:58:17 <Clipper87> crap...
Dec 15 00:59:29 <rwhitby> Clipper87: you could try to reinstall the same theme, and then remove it, but I don't know if that will work.
Dec 15 01:00:15 <Clipper87> no i tried that first....it says that i have one installed and to remove it first
Dec 15 01:03:28 <Clipper87> if i wipe the device and then restore using the built in backup thing...doesnt that put the preware and stuff back on?
Dec 15 01:03:34 <jpull> hello
Dec 15 01:04:30 <rwhitby> Clipper87: no
Dec 15 01:04:37 <Clipper87> ok maybe ill jsut do that
Dec 15 01:07:28 <jpull> could someone help me im looking  into rooting i do a lot of iphone codding and themeing
Dec 15 01:08:35 <oil> "rooting" webos == upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart
Dec 15 01:08:51 <oil> type that into the launcher, and run the devmode app, and enable devmode
Dec 15 01:09:03 <oil> now you can do whatever you want with it
Dec 15 01:09:17 <jpull> lol
Dec 15 01:09:19 <bpadalino> install the palm sdk and use novaterm for a terminal
Dec 15 01:09:22 <jpull> seems simple
Dec 15 01:09:35 <rwhitby> yep, there is no jail to break out of
Dec 15 01:09:58 <jpull> are there a lot of choices for Ui
Dec 15 01:10:06 <jpull> thats what im mostly interested in
Dec 15 01:10:15 <bpadalino> does not compute - can you elaborate a little ore ?
Dec 15 01:10:20 <bpadalino> more rather
Dec 15 01:10:24 <jpull> like themes
Dec 15 01:10:26 <jpull> widgets
Dec 15 01:10:31 <jpull> new icons
Dec 15 01:10:43 <rwhitby> jpull: there's over 1000 themes available
Dec 15 01:10:45 <bpadalino> ah, themes there's a lot of - precentral.net is a good resource to look at
Dec 15 01:11:00 <bpadalino> for installation install.preware.org has good information
Dec 15 01:11:11 <jpull> thanks
Dec 15 01:11:15 <rwhitby> or the Preware Homebrew Documentation app in the official app catalog
Dec 15 01:11:26 <bpadalino> right, that's another good place to look
Dec 15 01:12:23 <jpull> alright
Dec 15 01:12:32 <jpull> is anyone using the pixi
Dec 15 01:14:04 <bpadalino> not me, but i am sure there are at least a couple people
Dec 15 01:14:52 <jpull> i just have to do what oil said
Dec 15 01:15:06 <oil> well, that "roots" it
Dec 15 01:15:07 <jpull> download preware and then load themes on right?
Dec 15 01:15:20 <oil> then you can use the sdk or quick install or others to install preware
Dec 15 01:15:47 <jpull> i have to be connected to my computer for that right
Dec 15 01:18:28 <rwhitby> jpull: that Preware Homebrew Documentation app works for the Pixi too
Dec 15 01:18:48 <rwhitby> and yes, you need to connect to a computer once
Dec 15 01:19:09 <jpull> thanks
Dec 15 01:23:45 <jpull> ok so one more dumb question :p
Dec 15 01:24:19 <jpull> can i make my pixi look like this or is that only android http://kimboprice.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0#/d33o5r6
Dec 15 01:27:15 <rwhitby> look in prethemer.com
Dec 15 01:31:28 <jpull> thanks for all the help
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