**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 13 02:59:56 2011 Feb 13 05:13:13 i'd like to add an icon to the launcher that run some program in terminal. i'm guessing this would require extra code in terminal itself... but what about making icons? i have no idea how the launcher operates. is there a magic command to add my own icons or does it require extensive js programming? Feb 13 05:13:55 krushia: we haven't supported it so far because malicious applications could run arbitrary commands as root Feb 13 05:14:05 which would be a big security issue Feb 13 05:14:43 krushia: the launcher just detects a directory in the apps directory with an appinfo.json in it Feb 13 05:15:00 ah Feb 13 05:15:40 krushia: and yeah javascript is the most common thing run by them but binaries can be run as well with type: game Feb 13 05:20:28 good point about security. i guess thats a big flaw in webos design, using root for everything Feb 13 05:46:24 krushia: actually, apps from the official app catalog run in individual chroot jails as individual unpriviledged users Feb 13 05:46:53 the "root as everything" was fixed a long time ago Feb 13 05:48:20 krushia: yeah in this case it's more that terminal runs as root. actually it's not a distinct process, it runs as part of the UI's process (LunaSysMgr) Feb 13 05:49:03 Terminal is homebrew, so all bets are off. Feb 13 06:00:04 how do you view movies on your pre? Feb 13 06:00:54 i need rod to answer this cause only he knows this hack Feb 13 06:01:22 jk Feb 13 06:01:48 but for real why the well can we not play OGG 2 years later? Feb 13 06:02:23 to play an ORG file on my pre I need to install X window Feb 13 06:02:42 OGG* Feb 13 06:02:53 you can transcode on the pre with appropriate tools from optware Feb 13 06:03:34 i do it on mine all the time with ffmpeg. add previews to downloaded videos too. Feb 13 06:03:35 stop talking to me like I'm rod wikibi Feb 13 06:03:51 idk how to transcode Feb 13 06:03:59 Google it Lol Feb 13 06:04:10 lol ok Feb 13 06:04:36 previews to downloaded videos? Feb 13 06:04:49 i need more cause on this Feb 13 06:04:51 krushia: why has that not been made into a patch. Feb 13 06:05:05 * krushia shrugs Feb 13 06:05:24 dunno how Feb 13 06:05:29 krushia do you have female parts? Feb 13 06:05:30 make it a patch and I will love you forever. Feb 13 06:06:02 i know how to use linux, unfortunately not so much about webos Feb 13 06:06:05 ^not important. I will still love them forever. Feb 13 06:06:27 i just had 12 wings and I'm still hungry Feb 13 06:06:33 what do? Feb 13 06:06:50 * rwhitby has some ideas Feb 13 06:07:18 LOL Feb 13 06:07:28 hey rod. Sorry I messed up Ur name before Feb 13 06:07:41 wow we have had some times huh? Feb 13 06:08:08 you shall address him as master or not at all. Feb 13 06:08:11 you said some things you didn't mean and I said a few things too but that's all in the past . We are good friends now Feb 13 06:08:12 are we clear. Feb 13 06:08:31 wow it's amazzing how much I can type with a real keyboard Feb 13 06:08:40 shitty android slab Feb 13 06:09:09 what's an android slab .. sounds like meat Feb 13 06:09:42 isnt that what the call the android phones with out keyboards? Feb 13 06:10:33 dunno Feb 13 06:10:33 no. that's called an epic 4ail. ltm ltm Feb 13 06:10:41 why would one buy a smartphone with no keyboard Feb 13 06:11:01 i had a touch diamond for a while and I loved it Feb 13 06:11:11 krushia: cause everyone else is doing it Feb 13 06:11:19 but ink android it just meh Feb 13 06:11:26 idk* Feb 13 06:12:01 please take discussion that is not about the internals of webos to #webos-watercooler Feb 13 06:12:22 well I'm back on my pre so you can see that didn't last long Feb 13 06:12:49 sorry rob. Feb 13 06:13:06 rod is in every channel Feb 13 06:13:28 is there a water cooler channel? Feb 13 06:13:36 rod* Feb 13 06:16:17 why does it say this? [01:14] == Cannot send to channel: #webos-watercooler Feb 13 06:16:41 hackers attack computer problem Feb 13 06:17:11 not_dude_man: read the ropic of that chan Feb 13 06:17:33 hackers can turn your computer into a bomb! Feb 13 06:17:55 i know that's why I'm scared of yall Feb 13 06:23:10 cd /media/internal/downloads/; for i in *.ogg; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "$(basename "$i" .ogg).mp3" && rm $i; done Feb 13 06:23:20 not_dude_man: that works as a cron job btw Feb 13 06:27:37 someone link me to the water cooker Feb 13 06:27:47 cause ink how to change chanels Feb 13 06:28:14 dBsooner! Feb 13 06:28:26 i know u Feb 13 06:28:30 your all over the place Feb 13 06:29:14 * Orithma fights the urge to be a grammar nazi Feb 13 06:30:07 using an android phone is kinda like using bard wire as a south brush Feb 13 06:30:18 barb* Feb 13 06:31:01 #webos-watercooler Feb 13 06:31:15 tooth* Feb 13 06:47:15 nebula Feb 13 06:47:34 yo Feb 13 06:48:45 ur crazy man Feb 13 06:48:51 nahhhh Feb 13 06:49:07 lol Feb 13 06:49:21 love this stuff Feb 13 06:49:32 there is amocie called what if Feb 13 06:49:51 looks ray lame Feb 13 07:33:05 hi all **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 13 15:40:14 2011 Feb 13 15:48:06 she is alove again Feb 13 15:48:08 alive Feb 13 16:05:38 quotemstr: even if no official release of 2.x for pre, a homebrew / metadoctor solution is being worked on and may be possible Feb 13 16:25:16 is there a patch to block the ability for a pixi to connect to wifi networks? Feb 13 16:26:18 pixi's can connect to wifi networks Feb 13 16:26:37 whoops Feb 13 16:26:57 pixi's can't connect to wifi networks...they dont' have wifi Feb 13 16:27:13 i know. i have a friend that wants to shut the wifi capability on his daughter's pixi. is there a(n easy) way to do it? Feb 13 16:27:25 sure they can. talking bout a pixi plus Feb 13 16:27:56 you said pixi so that didn't make sense Feb 13 16:28:16 sorry. thought source code for pixi and pixi plus were the same Feb 13 16:28:46 yes, but the pixi lacked the hardware...so I was not understanding Feb 13 16:28:58 you would have to check the patch portal for that answer Feb 13 16:29:05 sorry Feb 13 16:29:40 its arrainged by OS version I believe Feb 13 16:29:55 (i believe rod said in a twitter convo the other day that if he had the source code for webOS 2.0 he can update a pre, and noted there's no dif between pre and pre+ Feb 13 16:30:02 really? Feb 13 16:30:18 i would have to downgrade to block the wifi? Feb 13 16:30:40 now I'm really confused Feb 13 16:30:57 wouldn't there be a line of code to turn it on? if i can just alter that so it doesnt... Feb 13 16:31:12 you were talking about a pixi and now you are asking about pre pre+ and then blocking a downgrade Feb 13 16:31:57 my bad. i got a pixi+ and i want to block the wifi connecting capability Feb 13 16:32:09 u said u thought it depended on the OS version Feb 13 16:33:07 what I said about the pre's: i was just saying i thought source code would be the same in - & +, only hardware would make a difference Feb 13 16:33:55 no, the patch portal is arrainged by OS version Feb 13 16:34:11 so find your version of the OS and look for the patch Feb 13 16:34:42 brb. changing over to my phone Feb 13 16:34:50 why do you want to block wifi? Feb 13 16:35:57 because he wants to control his daughter's access to wifi Feb 13 16:36:00 that makes sense Feb 13 16:36:54 there could be a patch to not make the control to turn it on show up. Feb 13 16:37:12 but I don't use patches so I directed him to the patch portal to see what was available Feb 13 17:00:06 thank you for wirc, its great :-) Feb 13 17:11:47 someone here who can give me access to linphone?would like to test Feb 13 17:49:19 Hi everyone! :) Feb 13 17:50:21 JohnDoes: still looking for linphone alpha testing? ;) What device(s) & SIP provider(s)? Feb 13 17:56:05 Ouch, parents visiting me (happy, don't get me wrong), definitely need to go now, but bbl for sure. :) Feb 13 18:04:20 heho Feb 13 18:34:59 is rwhitby on? Feb 13 18:35:52 no, he is sleeping Feb 13 18:36:07 what time would it now be in australia? Feb 13 18:36:25 4AM Feb 13 18:36:35 O Feb 13 18:36:40 my bad Feb 13 18:37:20 is there any way i can see if a user is online? Feb 13 18:37:31 ~seen rwhitby Feb 13 18:37:46 hrm Feb 13 18:37:51 infobot died Feb 13 18:38:11 ~seen rwhitby Feb 13 18:38:14 like that? Feb 13 18:38:25 infobot died when everything else died at about midnight central time last night Feb 13 18:38:34 rick-home, ok Feb 13 18:38:42 thats too bad Feb 13 18:41:09 so who can tell me where one can get the source code to the pixi plus? Feb 13 18:41:28 shmungerwos, define Feb 13 18:41:28 to make a patch to disable wifi Feb 13 18:42:01 http://opensource.palm.com/ Feb 13 18:42:12 naaa Feb 13 18:42:17 he needs to patch launcher Feb 13 18:42:41 download the doctor for your phone Feb 13 18:42:52 then, extract everything in the rootfs Feb 13 18:42:58 and then find the launcher files Feb 13 18:49:50 shmungerwos, I wasn't trying to be "smart" with you earlier...and I do see the value in being able to control a childs' access. Feb 13 18:56:39 were u with whom i was talkin to an hr ago? Feb 13 18:56:42 no offense taken Feb 13 18:57:04 adora, is that lisa? Feb 13 18:57:58 yup. cool Feb 13 19:00:26 when i go to https://ws.palm.com/webosdoctor i get the sorry.html Feb 13 19:00:35 y is that? Feb 13 19:01:35 4get it. got the page to load Feb 13 19:02:14 shmungerwos, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Feb 13 19:08:54 what is the infobot called here? Feb 13 19:09:09 infobot Feb 13 19:31:05 Hi Adora Feb 13 19:54:04 whats the command to stop a service from event.d Feb 13 20:03:21 Robi_, like LunaSysMgr? You can use stop LunaSysMgr Feb 13 20:05:26 yeah i just figured that out Feb 13 20:05:36 start/stop scripts in event.d Feb 13 20:05:49 use them so infrequently i forget .. Feb 13 20:15:47 SineOt, Sethron, its my fault you guys haven't gotten emails about SCALE...I've been working on getting the stuff ready for the new server. Feb 13 20:15:58 no worries Feb 13 20:52:52 hola Feb 13 21:04:28 morning Feb 13 21:04:44 ka6sox - copy that. i'm available on the 26 & 27 Feb 13 21:05:13 sethron|pre, okay thats good...I'll let linuxjacques know Feb 13 21:05:41 oh i never tested linphone with anyone.. Feb 13 21:06:20 if nobody has gizmo, someone can call my google phone, and i'll answer the call on gizmo, so it'll at least be 1-way VoIP.. (if some testing is interesting to rob/etc) Feb 13 21:11:46 * ajay thinks HP should give webOS internals a source build of WebOS internals (and a staff person or few) so they can push features from 2.x to 1.4.x Feb 13 21:12:05 s/of WebOS internals/webOS Feb 13 21:12:07 s/of WebOS internals/webOS/ Feb 13 21:17:05 Congrats on the ProLiant, BTW. Feb 13 21:33:50 any pascal programmers around? Feb 13 21:35:13 1979, spring semester, Apple ][+, forgot it all...yup. Feb 13 21:36:42 * ajay says damn its hard to find the inbox on developer.palm.com ! Feb 13 21:36:45 haha Feb 13 21:38:21 ajay, it was my intro to OOP....still don't do OOP. Feb 13 21:39:24 OOP? Pascal is OOP? Feb 13 21:40:09 okay they used it for the Data Structures class. Feb 13 21:47:50 hi destinal_pre Feb 13 21:48:28 hey Feb 13 21:49:56 anything happening? Feb 13 21:50:38 not really Feb 13 22:00:47 Hi everyone, back now Feb 13 22:07:37 oops, just called myself with linphone.. haha Feb 13 22:08:39 (not a good test :) Feb 13 22:10:53 does Linphone integrate with the stock dialer app? Feb 13 22:11:51 no.. but that does sound interesting, the way hp integrated skype huh.. Feb 13 22:12:02 at least, not in my version, dunno if there's an update Feb 13 22:15:52 SineOt: a bit too early for an app in the alpha state, I'm afraid! ;) Would be nice, though... Definitely a huge task not on top of the list. Immediate focus is Pixi screen size, proxy to front/back speaker, proximity sensor & mute Feb 13 22:17:59 SineOt: ...and extended SIP registering for mutliple-devices accounts! Feb 13 22:18:31 s/multliple/multiple/ (RIP infobot) Feb 13 22:23:02 * ajay is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] Feb 13 22:52:21 * ajay is trying to understand this samygo stuff Feb 13 22:52:48 * ajay is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 29 min 45 secs Feb 13 22:53:10 Thibaud: sounds like a notable set of features you're planning! Feb 13 22:53:41 ajay: if you keep that auto away/back thing I will find you and stab you with the physical form of irc Feb 13 22:55:11 halfhalo: woa/haha.. seriously tho: is it that obtrusive?? Feb 13 22:55:18 yes Feb 13 22:55:48 * rwhitby wonders what the physical form of irc is .. Feb 13 22:55:50 because.. it's showing up "ajay is away" (in the form of a /me) in 2 channels ? Feb 13 22:56:02 I don't know if it shows up differently to others than it does to me Feb 13 22:57:11 ajay: not so much in the end: pixi screen size is a few changes over the CSS, front/back speaker & proximity sensor already operate in com.palm domain and I have solution out of it, mute is a breeze and finally Mark_M gave me leads for multiple-devices accounts :) Feb 13 22:57:49 I thought that it would keep a chat log if i did that, but i just realized it doesn't, only msgs, so i guess i don't "need" it.. it seems like a nice idea tho! maybe i can disable the notifications.. i want it to be like webOS, not iOS, after all.. :) Feb 13 22:57:54 Thibaud: cool.. Feb 13 22:58:16 just realized that when i called myself a little while ago, that i hung up on my phone, but it didn't disconnect w/ linphone Feb 13 22:59:22 rwhitby: a room full of people yelling Feb 13 23:00:14 ajay: why would one call himself unless he is a narcissist? Are you? ;) Feb 13 23:00:16 actually it didn't hang up when i hit the red hangup button, was still CONNECTED on bottom.. closed and restart, now it's waiting for service to come back up.. or should i be posting this on the forum? Feb 13 23:00:42 Thibaud: I was thinking that i was on my other device, but, then i remembered, i'm not.. :) Feb 13 23:01:23 i was meaning to load it on said device, but can't find where i put the ipk :) Feb 13 23:05:29 halfhalo: ok i turned off send_away_msg.. who loves ya Feb 13 23:06:16 daddy loves ya Feb 13 23:07:10 ajay: but thanks, I'll protect the app against narcis^H^H^H^H^H^Hself-calls! :) Please log in the forum with enough details about your case so I can reproduce. Feb 13 23:07:47 Thibaud: to be clear, i was calling my phone's #, not my SIP #, so you can't protect against that :) Feb 13 23:08:55 i'm not sure what details i can provide so you can produce though.. and i'm not sure how to get it to register the service again.. device or luna restart? Feb 13 23:12:17 ajay: got it! "killall org.webosinternals.linphone.service" in the terminal is the fastest! Feb 13 23:16:47 ajay: Are you 2.0? If so, there is apparently an issue with the service when restarting the app which I'll need to fix quick or 2.0 alpha-testers will feel forgotten! Feb 13 23:17:26 good morning Feb 13 23:17:48 Thibaud: i'm both Feb 13 23:18:12 ajay: so you may try both! Feb 13 23:18:59 Thibaud, I'm alpha testing your linphone but the link I have for 0.1.3 doesnt adapt to 0.1.4 like Rod said (it's on ompldr.org) Feb 13 23:19:02 heh Feb 13 23:19:09 Any chance of an updated link to keep on testing? Feb 13 23:19:54 i did a killall, started linphone, it's waiting for service.. Feb 13 23:21:43 this is on my 1.4.5 device Feb 13 23:22:18 mdogg: did you carefully read everything Rod wrote? Wasn't an additional suffix required? More hints? Feb 13 23:22:40 0. Feb 13 23:22:48 0.1.4-pre_arm Feb 13 23:25:03 mdogg: see /msg Feb 13 23:25:12 yeah a kill/killall of the service wasn't working, so I did a kill -9 and its up and running Feb 13 23:27:01 ajay: my bad, I don't have 2.0. I avoid -9 as much as possible as it may leave meat on the walls, but sometimes there's nothing but an only choice left! ;) Feb 13 23:27:40 Thibaud: the -9 was on 1.4.5 Feb 13 23:28:50 ajay: Oops! Then please reproduce & report in the forum with details about your actions + SIP server (PM if needed) Feb 13 23:36:16 noob question: how does one compile applications (eg from git) on the phone, and package them? Feb 13 23:41:10 mdogg: compile on the phone. Really wanna go the hard way? Feb 13 23:41:35 mdogg: no-one does. cross-compilation ftw. Feb 13 23:41:55 mdogg: git.webos-internals.org - preware/cross-compile.git and preware/build.git Feb 13 23:42:25 * ajay says cross-compilation.. easier said than done! (on linux).. damn u Paaaalllm!! Feb 13 23:42:51 Yah I've built stuff one the phone itself Feb 13 23:43:17 I've done some, but no big app. Definitely a real PITA as you have to install so many packages, not to mention the space needed Feb 13 23:43:27 remininded me of 'build world' FreeBSD running on an AMD 300MHz 15 years ago Feb 13 23:43:52 Thibaud, another bad thing about that is flash Feb 13 23:43:59 limited number of reads and writes Feb 13 23:44:10 cross-compile certainly looks easier than installing all of those packages Feb 13 23:44:39 I've managed to kill an early gen SSD drive before building a small Gentoo distro Feb 13 23:44:49 ajay: /me says "ye shall follow http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Widk and you'll be good" Feb 13 23:45:01 and to package? I didn't think the sdk allowed anything with scripts or services Feb 13 23:45:12 Thibaud: that's EXACTLY what I was talking about when I said "Easier said than done" Unless its been updated since i last tried in august Feb 13 23:45:21 just cuz my temp dir was on it - it basically died... ahhh poor NAND gates :( Feb 13 23:45:25 drzero: agreed Feb 13 23:45:29 mdogg: that's why build.git does not use the SDK to package Feb 13 23:46:07 Thibaud: Oh the problem i had was on 1.3, should i still report? Feb 13 23:46:37 ajay: I started in august, and it's been updated since them (I contributed the libtool issue among others) Feb 13 23:46:50 Thibaud, actually the CPU on the Palm is pretty fast - if we had USB-host to put /tmp /var/tmp and such on an external drive when we build that would be awesome Feb 13 23:47:09 drzero: just NFS mount the build area Feb 13 23:47:21 rwhitby, works - but kinda janky Feb 13 23:47:33 stateless... Feb 13 23:47:36 Thibaud: ok! will check it l8r Feb 13 23:47:46 drzero: sshfs then :) Feb 13 23:47:52 NFS mount it over a usb link? or is wifi workable for that? Feb 13 23:48:03 rwhitby, as much as I hate to say it I'd almost rather have a CIFS mount Feb 13 23:48:09 cuz i couldn't get it to compile at all on one of my systems (but could on the other, same ubuntu rev, weird) Feb 13 23:48:16 cifs? blasphemer! Feb 13 23:48:20 ;^) Feb 13 23:48:21 RagingMind, USB for now Feb 13 23:48:34 if you're lucky freeTether will work WiFI for you Feb 13 23:49:04 ajay, I know I know :( Feb 13 23:49:07 I have verizon mobile hot spot... so I normally just use that Feb 13 23:49:27 PuffTheMagic, ping? Feb 13 23:49:39 drzero: agreed once more, but additional packages install is a nightmare. Besides, you'll compile only for one architecture when all 3 (armv6/pixi, armv7/pre & i686/emu) may be needed Feb 13 23:49:43 RagingMind, lucky you - freeTether hates me :( Feb 13 23:50:04 RagingMind, pong? Feb 13 23:50:18 and I use freeTether... it all works except bluetooth Feb 13 23:50:21 Thibaud, agreed on one condition - x-compilers are not always the best for optimizing code :) Feb 13 23:50:26 * drzero is being a nerd Feb 13 23:50:30 PuffTheMagic, you're the freeTether guy? Feb 13 23:50:36 a ft guy Feb 13 23:51:03 just a feasibility question... what about power control for the wifi signal? Feb 13 23:51:06 PuffTheMagic, after all it is my card and janky WPA2 implementation Feb 13 23:51:25 drzero: I guess I trust ARM compilers endorsed by Palm! ;) Feb 13 23:51:27 its fixable but it is not worth it I think Feb 13 23:51:48 * rwhitby wonders how successful a Pixi on-device compile would be, given the memory limitations Feb 13 23:51:49 didn't that one paid tether app have something like that? Feb 13 23:52:09 unless there are other cheap bastards out there like me that like 5 dollar cards Feb 13 23:52:49 rwhitby, It will complete - a matter of how soon and if it will need to swap Feb 13 23:53:12 i really wasnt reading backlogs so im out of the loop Feb 13 23:53:17 RagingMind, did u have a question? Feb 13 23:53:31 PuffTheMagic, just a feasibility question... what about power control for the wifi signal? Feb 13 23:53:42 someone say freetether? speaking of which, what's the chance of a it having a reverse-tether option? Feb 13 23:54:08 ajay, what do you mean "reverse-tether" Feb 13 23:54:33 drzero: have my pre use my computer's internet Feb 13 23:54:33 RagingMind, what sort of power control do you have in mind? Feb 13 23:54:44 ajay Feb 13 23:54:50 share from you comp in ad-hoc mode Feb 13 23:54:53 have fun Feb 13 23:55:04 ajay, yes that works over bt and usb Feb 13 23:55:05 controlling how strong of a signal the pre puts out for wifi... so that one could turn it down and save battery Feb 13 23:55:35 PuffTheMagic, that works with regular wifi + adhoc off the wired box's WiFI NIC Feb 13 23:55:51 drzero, maybe he dont want to use wifi Feb 13 23:55:53 don't really need full signal strength if the laptop is right next to the pre... or if the other 2 people at the table have their iPhones connected to my Pre as a hotspot because ATT sucks Feb 13 23:55:58 so im saying u can do that with bt and usb Feb 13 23:55:59 oh :) Feb 13 23:56:05 I thought it was about wifi :) Feb 13 23:56:14 I have a quick question I hope someone can answer. Feb 13 23:56:14 RagingMind, ya we could add something, file a ticket Feb 13 23:56:45 PuffTheMagic: it does? how do i enable it? Feb 13 23:56:49 Has anyone heard of work being done to bring Google authenticator to WebOS? Feb 13 23:57:07 http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/staar23/5443496216/ HP is campaining in the cloud, literally. Feb 13 23:57:57 I totally didn't think to look at the freetether redmine page Feb 13 23:58:03 Sanglant: should be a pretty easy app to make Feb 13 23:58:36 ajay: "the problem i had was on 1.3, should i still report?" No, don't! Who's on 1.3 these days? ;) Truth is my CDMA Pre is still 1.4.0 because I had no time to (securely) switch my profile to my 1.4.5 GSM Pre. So count me in, I'm afraid! ;) Feb 13 23:58:39 ajay, umm, actually, i know it can, but it might not work out of the box with the current setup Feb 13 23:58:46 I just turned off my networks, turned on freetether, hit usb 'on,' but its not using.. oh is there something to setup on the desktop? Feb 13 23:58:52 Where would I make the request for it? Feb 13 23:59:08 Thibaud: I meant 0.1.3 :) Feb 13 23:59:13 ajay, might need something on the pc side Feb 13 23:59:23 google authenticator? Feb 13 23:59:27 hmm.. k Feb 13 23:59:46 Yes Puff Feb 13 23:59:52 wtf is that Feb 14 00:00:07 http://code.google.com/p/google-authenticator/ Feb 14 00:00:08 ajay: damn, wanna kill me? Just move now to 0.1.4 and try it again, major issue fixed! :) Feb 14 00:00:19 It's the google version of a RSA secureID Feb 14 00:00:27 Sanglant: http://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/36937385581219840 Feb 14 00:00:33 Thibaud: haha, sorry! I didn't realize there was a newer version when i first started writing to you :) Feb 14 00:00:53 ajay: all good only if you test 0.1.4! ;) Feb 14 00:01:10 my religion doesn't allow me to use version numbers with "4"s in them.. Feb 14 00:01:14 Thanks whitby Feb 14 00:01:22 ajay: chinese then? Feb 14 00:01:24 idont get the point of google authenticator Feb 14 00:01:25 jk Feb 14 00:01:32 ajay: you're not using 1.4.5? Feb 14 00:01:59 PuffTheMagic: you dont get the point of more security? Feb 14 00:02:00 oil: I figured someone'd catch me on that lie.. :) Feb 14 00:03:20 PuffTheMagic: http://www.openauthentication.org/webfm_send/14 is the marketing speil Feb 14 00:03:28 oil, i understand the security is good, i just dont how it would be use / taken advantage on the phone Feb 14 00:03:31 hm, un and reinstall of linphone lost settings Feb 14 00:03:55 you get to a computer Feb 14 00:03:57 rwhitby, im familiar with oauth Feb 14 00:04:01 you log in with your username and password Feb 14 00:04:08 You use it when logging in from a new location to verify that it's you and not someone who hacked your acount Feb 14 00:04:14 google then sends you a message to your phone saying "here is your second code"\ Feb 14 00:04:27 you read it and type it in to confirm that you're you Feb 14 00:04:37 The app would be able to generate the code automatically. Feb 14 00:04:38 someone would need both your login/pass AND your phone to hack your account Feb 14 00:05:05 now i see the point of it Feb 14 00:05:08 jk=Just Kidding Feb 14 00:05:36 hm, i need to call someone now to test this out.. ;^) Feb 14 00:06:04 oil's number is in the screenshot Feb 14 00:06:25 but its not on Feb 14 00:06:34 rwhitbys number is my numver in the screenshot + 2 Feb 14 00:06:49 :) Feb 14 00:06:52 * oil bbl Feb 14 00:07:28 ajay: one very simple way to test call in is to start linphonec on Ubuntu and call , no prior register needed. But you may for sure give oil a try! ;) Feb 14 00:07:38 rwhitby: what SIP provider? Feb 14 00:07:50 sip2sip.info Feb 14 00:07:54 Thibaud: i thought there's no cross-provider dialling? Feb 14 00:08:23 ajay: dunno, only that it works for me like a charm! Feb 14 00:08:37 i called myself, and i could hear what i was saying on my phone, couldn't seem to hear anything for me on linphone tho.. Feb 14 00:08:51 s/myself/my other device Feb 14 00:09:18 damn that whole sentence is confusing :) Feb 14 00:09:34 ajay: one more time and we have no other choice than call you a narcissist! ;) Feb 14 00:09:45 s/than/but to/ Feb 14 00:09:51 Thibaud: riiight.. :) Feb 14 00:11:14 oil: did I call you? Feb 14 00:11:18 i can't hear anything from linphone at all Feb 14 00:13:11 ajay: linphone sound is media (the note sign, not the bell sign). You must make sure media audio is not muted or too low Feb 14 00:13:18 it's not Feb 14 00:13:26 full Feb 14 00:14:54 anyone else have gizmo? i saw someone mention in the chat logs, hrmm.. Feb 14 00:15:16 mamouton .. but he's not here Feb 14 00:17:43 ajay: weird then. Pre 1.4.5 is what I'm running with a perfect sound. Do you still have sound on your Pre? The pulseaudio happened to get killed on 0.1.3, but that was very infrequent Feb 14 00:19:19 I noticed that sound in linphone works fine with my wi-fi hot spot at work but it does not work with the wi-fi hot spot at home. Have no idea why. Feb 14 00:22:10 kbywal: hi. Can you check /var/log/messages? Audio is done on a separate port (http://www.linphone.org/eng/documentation/faq.html / General Questions / 4th item) Feb 14 00:22:20 ajay: jk, you win Feb 14 00:22:42 s/$/! ;)/ Feb 14 00:25:10 is oil even here so I can call him?? Feb 14 00:25:28 ajay: oil said bbl Feb 14 00:27:53 * ajay needs someone to call, or call him.. ;^) Feb 14 00:29:18 oil: did you get a call? if not, lesse.. ;^) Feb 14 00:29:36 its not on Feb 14 00:30:16 damn :) Feb 14 00:30:27 Thibaud: and you told me to call oil! *sniff* Feb 14 00:33:45 ajay: Did? Shall blame rod first, then! Feb 14 00:34:01 s/Did/Did I/ (RIP infobot) Feb 14 00:34:15 :) Feb 14 00:34:35 wait, another bot bit the dust?! gah! Feb 14 00:34:35 blame rod, definitely sounds like the way to go Feb 14 00:34:47 Thibaud: OK! I just oil a voicemail Feb 14 00:35:05 so audio was working.. on 1.4.5 at least Feb 14 00:35:18 ajay: wanna call infobot back from the deads? Feb 14 00:35:44 s/call/summon/ Feb 14 00:35:55 definitely can't wait for multiple account settings in linphone, though i'm sure soon enough i'll memorize them all? ;^) Feb 14 00:35:58 ohh, creepy voicemail Feb 14 00:36:46 http://ompldr.org/vN2V6MQ/msg0000.WAV Feb 14 00:36:47 ajay: good, very good, making progress! Yeah, multiple accounts in the prefs is definitely on my list, a real PITA for me too... Feb 14 00:39:23 oil: creepy indeed, I confirm! Ajay: nothing personal, trust me! I'm happy you got it working, really. :) Feb 14 00:42:42 * ajay is finding disappearing lines from chat, hrmm.. Feb 14 00:43:07 Thibaud: how can i summon this infobot? Feb 14 00:43:22 oil: creepy?! what! damnit.. that's 2x in 24 hrs.. gah! Feb 14 00:43:30 lol Feb 14 00:43:35 ajay, infobot is offline Feb 14 00:44:00 Thibaud: hm, wonder if my issue may be giz-related, hrmmm/. Feb 14 00:44:01 brb Feb 14 00:45:04 ajay: might be, I know mamouton had an issue too (check the alpha thread). Never tried Giz so far. Feb 14 00:45:16 so does anyone actually want to try a call with me? Feb 14 00:46:58 ajay: ...? Feb 14 00:50:14 ajay: are you Ubuntu? Start linphonec on Ubuntu and "call ", no prior registration needed. That's very easy & you can try as many times as you like Feb 14 00:51:32 Thibaud: my computer is too far from wifi for that to work Feb 14 00:51:45