**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 14 02:59:57 2011 Feb 14 03:00:04 PmBtEngine? Feb 14 03:00:18 * nebula points at lemketron and says, "You!" Feb 14 03:00:20 nebula: surprised? Feb 14 03:00:21 hehe Feb 14 03:00:28 cdm: nah, not at all Feb 14 03:00:50 i talked to lemketron about it back last May, bitPool values, etc. Feb 14 03:01:23 wrong guy to talk with... Feb 14 03:01:31 I will probably end up talking to them in my new role anyways Feb 14 03:01:31 seems like i'm the only geek in the world who plays the drums and has webOS Feb 14 03:01:45 more likely I will get them to improve A2DP then anyone else... Feb 14 03:01:47 cdm: cool, i'll talk to you when i can about it Feb 14 03:01:56 adjustable bitPool ftw. Feb 14 03:02:02 I'm a drummer Feb 14 03:02:19 and a spacecraft enginerd Feb 14 03:02:35 dogdaysrevisited: nice. my cymbal crashes sound... inaudible at the ~96kbps that goes to my headset :( Feb 14 03:02:54 meh, bose wired for now Feb 14 03:03:13 cdm: bluez out of the question? Feb 14 03:03:21 bluez is crap Feb 14 03:03:23 ;) Feb 14 03:03:24 nice! Feb 14 03:03:33 i'm not partial to anything Feb 14 03:03:44 i just want it to work ;) Feb 14 03:04:07 cdm: oh also we talked about an issue of audio jack state detection Feb 14 03:04:18 ie. pull the jack and weird things happen Feb 14 03:04:33 oh that audiojack Feb 14 03:04:38 always thinking my headset is plugged in Feb 14 03:04:42 hey guys I gotta jet.. take care Feb 14 03:04:44 ^this Feb 14 03:04:47 l8r Feb 14 03:05:14 oh, a wircer Feb 14 03:05:22 lies Feb 14 03:05:24 it was namely when i use my bose headset during phone calls, sometimes i can use the headset during calls, sometimes the jack doesn't detect the headset connection. Feb 14 03:06:13 love the new PDK metronome Feb 14 03:06:33 i think i'll work on a new one that has subdivisions Feb 14 03:06:48 cdm: nice baby for sure, I'm glad we can play with, so open! :) Feb 14 03:07:06 the playpen is open and has lots of toys. Feb 14 03:11:26 mm...meta doctor error.. Feb 14 03:14:37 guess I should read twice, type once Feb 14 03:14:49 far too tired to be doing this but oh well Feb 14 03:15:56 Thibaud: yep, I worked hard to ensure that webOS was 100% open Feb 14 03:16:10 was annoyed when I left Apple that I couldn't hack on iPhone anymore Feb 14 03:16:42 that's very appreciated, and twice as much so now that nokia has gone crazy Feb 14 03:19:28 cdm: was a pleasure meeting you, and a few other (past & present) Palm great people! Guess I need to go for a sleep now (or the very small part left, I'm afraid!). :) Feb 14 03:19:35 bye everyone Feb 14 03:20:13 l8r Feb 14 03:51:53 cdm: hey Feb 14 04:10:21 nas-bot: welcome Feb 14 04:10:28 haha, this is cryptk Feb 14 04:10:34 registering a nick for something Feb 14 04:11:02 ~botslap Feb 14 04:11:22 it isn't a bot... yet Feb 14 04:11:40 ~botslap Feb 14 04:11:56 ~cryptkslap Feb 14 04:13:40 haha, man, you really wanna see it do something... dontcha Feb 14 04:13:46 this bot won't be in this channel Feb 14 04:13:53 aw Feb 14 04:13:55 oooh - sekretbot Feb 14 04:13:57 (bet you can guess which one it will be in though Feb 14 04:14:32 cryptk: in #ilikebitbotsandicannotlie ? Feb 14 04:14:38 s/bit/big/ Feb 14 04:14:45 haha Feb 14 04:14:47 lol Feb 14 04:14:52 ashi_, we already have a bot for this channel Feb 14 04:14:58 hi Feb 14 04:15:03 but it seems to be MIA atm... Feb 14 04:15:05 i think i've seen it. Feb 14 04:15:13 yeah, I will summon him back in a few Feb 14 05:35:30 hi oil_pre Feb 14 05:35:47 hey Feb 14 05:52:31 getting angry. my original pre's battery just recently started draining for no reson. I didn't change anything. installed DrBattery but not sure what's normal and what isn't. it feels a little warm as if something's running in the backgroun and it isn't MyTether Feb 14 06:00:07 nirv: Use top. Feb 14 06:00:20 nirv: Treat it like any other Unix system. Feb 14 07:54:08 cdm: bluez kernel side is crap? Feb 14 07:54:12 hola Feb 14 08:08:24 hmm, verizon skype might be using voice channels like it does on android phones, won't help much for non verizon Feb 14 08:14:30 morning Feb 14 08:16:19 after nokia's sad news, i've become interested to see whether webOS could be our next smart-phone platform...however, it looks HP's is also fond of broken promises, but, fortunately, now (when the site is up), i see the light of webos-internals :-) Feb 14 08:17:06 now, i'm considering that veer/pre3 might be nice phones, but curious how much it would take for community to port 'preware' to webos-2.2? Feb 14 08:17:30 gour: a lot of things are already working in 2.x Feb 14 08:17:37 i'd also like to hear what is used by linux folks to sync pim data with with the desktop? Feb 14 08:17:58 anyone uses emacs & org-mode? (iirc, emacs22 is ported, right?) Feb 14 08:18:09 gour: emacs22 is in optware, yeah Feb 14 08:18:20 :-D Feb 14 08:18:31 that sounds terrific!! Feb 14 08:18:42 and you can backup pim data to a Linux box using preware save/restore and SSH, obviously Feb 14 08:19:03 apple is, by default, ruled out, and webos looks better than java & android Feb 14 08:19:33 the best thing about webos is how well it talks to my imap server. I haven't set up a caldav service yet Feb 14 08:19:34 wgreenhouse: heh...it would be nice to have something like unison to sync Feb 14 08:19:59 heh, having claws would be great :-) Feb 14 08:20:10 the webos imap client is actually very good Feb 14 08:20:35 I use it on the move and Gnus nnimap in Emacs 23 on my debian boxes Feb 14 08:20:46 do you consider it's better than that open-source one for androdi? Feb 14 08:21:16 well I like the webos one better because it takes advantage of webos "type anywhere" search Feb 14 08:21:17 i used gnus, but it's too complex for other family-members..so i've settled on claws Feb 14 08:22:43 my needs for smart-phone is to work reliably as phone, ncie contact app and sync with the desktop and good email (imap) client Feb 14 08:22:58 no need for audio/video/other_bloat... Feb 14 08:23:32 well, the best options for syncing contacts are if you can run an LDAP server of some sort, or else use google Feb 14 08:23:57 it is a very internet service-oriented OS Feb 14 08:24:12 google? nah...ldap server might be option...access via ssh-tunnel Feb 14 08:24:14 :-) Feb 14 08:25:31 i simply do not want to put private data to the google...any encrypted cloud solution to sync? for part of my email i've started to use tarsnap (right after security bug) Feb 14 08:26:38 sync what? Feb 14 08:27:04 contacts data & e.g dropbox-like solution Feb 14 08:27:46 gour: contacts is awkward, requires ldap or exchange--there are many applications to make a one-way dump off the phone, but fewer to two-way sync with a desktop Feb 14 08:28:17 wgreenhouse: too bad...jpilot was working for so many years and had great features :-( Feb 14 08:28:18 as for dropbox, I tend to use the phone's ability to act as an ssh client and server Feb 14 08:28:42 gour: yeah, all the PalmOS PDA<->desktop connectivity was essentially dropped in one go Feb 14 08:28:47 I don't know if that has changed for 2.x Feb 14 08:28:50 are data on dropbox encrypted? Feb 14 08:29:13 only if you give them the key Feb 14 08:29:34 I just use ssh connectivity between mobile and computers instead Feb 14 08:29:56 that's ok for backup... Feb 14 08:30:36 well what else do you use dropbox for? Feb 14 08:30:40 what's the point of it exactly? Feb 14 08:30:44 wammu, afaik, also does not support those phones Feb 14 08:30:58 wammu? Feb 14 08:31:11 wgreenhouse: i do not use dropbox...but i thought there is client for webos Feb 14 08:31:22 http://wammu.eu/phones/ Feb 14 08:31:47 oh hey i'm still set up here Feb 14 08:31:53 gour: there is https://www.dropbox.com/apps/162/dropboxify Feb 14 08:31:58 the whole point is to get safe 2-way sync Feb 14 08:32:00 gour: but I don't use dropbox, so I had no idea Feb 14 08:32:31 ok Feb 14 08:32:46 dropbox is just a glorified ssh directory on a "cloud" Feb 14 08:32:54 with some "social" aspect of getting more space when you sign up others Feb 14 08:32:56 it's pretty lame Feb 14 08:33:17 and has nothing to do with contact sync, really Feb 14 08:33:47 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Dropbox_Syncing Feb 14 08:34:09 ..but it says thaat oen needs "A dropbox account with client running on a Windows PC" :-/ Feb 14 08:34:17 yes, but afaik that has nothing to do with contacts Feb 14 08:34:49 ahh...then we can drop idea right now Feb 14 08:35:02 yeah, dropbox is for files Feb 14 08:36:07 recently org-contacts was announced...so having org-mode is possibility Feb 14 08:36:19 meh Feb 14 08:36:28 it would be unpleasant to use with the phone's built-in imap support Feb 14 08:36:34 and really, if you are going to go to that level Feb 14 08:36:41 just use phone as ssh terminal to your nice home emacs Feb 14 08:37:07 do you know about http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/ ? Feb 14 08:37:24 yeah Feb 14 08:37:51 gour: I might be the wrong person to ask about contact sync. I have never kept an address book Feb 14 08:37:59 so, having one for webos would be cool Feb 14 08:38:14 wgreenhouse: heh, ok ;) Feb 14 08:38:48 there is now even version for android... Feb 14 08:38:54 I just tend to use whatever my mail provider offers Feb 14 08:39:14 and indeed, if you have ldap functionality associated with a mail account, webos just finds that Feb 14 08:39:15 and uses it Feb 14 08:39:19 and syncs automatically Feb 14 08:40:00 gour: I'm also not the person to ask about coding that for you :-P Feb 14 08:40:03 I agree it'd be cool Feb 14 08:40:12 i played in the past with claws & its ldap support...i might revive it Feb 14 08:40:45 gour: yeah, might be worth a look--unfortunately the short version is that webos will not play nicely with an address book stored as a local file on your desktop Feb 14 08:40:53 it much prefers to have it on a server somewhere Feb 14 08:41:37 what's the difference? my desktop can be server as well Feb 14 08:41:57 gour: well, what I mean by that is "served up through ldap or exchange" Feb 14 08:42:40 i anyway plan to serve some stuff on my localhost webserver (cherokee), e.g. invoicing app and accessing it via ssh-tunnel/vpn.. Feb 14 08:42:45 wgreenhouse: how can a free 2GB cloud storage be lame? :P Feb 14 08:43:07 can you offer me the same but 3GB? ;) Feb 14 08:43:26 wgreenhouse: so, it seems that webOS is really 'web'-oriented :-) Feb 14 08:43:43 gour: indeed Feb 14 08:43:46 :) Feb 14 08:44:27 similarly, it doesn't just sync .ics files for its calendar really Feb 14 08:44:31 it wants to use outlook or caldav Feb 14 08:44:36 anyway, webos-internals instills some faith that buying webOS might be nice choise Feb 14 08:45:00 yeah, the webos-internals stuff has made it rewarding Feb 14 08:45:25 and hey, almost every webos app comes with source code right there to inspect Feb 14 08:45:37 it's a very flexible platform in terms of hacking Feb 14 08:45:38 gour, scour craigslist... there are a ton of pre/pixi+ on the market for cheap and in awesome condition Feb 14 08:46:13 $75 should get you one of each in near-excellent condition Feb 14 08:46:30 Orithma: i'm in croatia...getting one here via ebay, might be expensive considering import duties :-/ Feb 14 08:47:13 hmm... well, I know there have been people in other parts of Europe that have had some of the internals members buy/ship devices from over here Feb 14 08:47:26 might be worth while inquiring during the US day times Feb 14 08:47:44 the internals admins and member base are really awesome people... Feb 14 08:48:33 vcalendar for claws might work (http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=vcalendar) Feb 14 08:49:51 otoh, with meego we were thinking to write desktop app using Qt(D) and have 'desktop-lite' app for smart-phone...now, with webOS it looks either js/html or c(++) only, right? Feb 14 08:50:30 yeah Feb 14 08:51:01 gour: there are some hybrid apps, with a C service and a JS interface Feb 14 08:51:03 but basically yes Feb 14 08:51:26 it means, no D :-/ Feb 14 08:51:43 yeah no D Feb 14 08:51:53 mobileorg is written in D, too, isn't it? Feb 14 08:52:47 no, mobileorg and use of D are for total different usages Feb 14 09:08:37 btw, what's the status of qt for webos? Feb 14 09:13:47 gour: you'd have to read up on webos-internals.org wiki... I remember reading somewhere that qt was good to go Feb 14 09:14:15 just had to reference the lib... but other than that, i don't know if there are any actual apps that use qt specifically Feb 14 09:24:20 Orithma: thanks Feb 14 09:54:27 gour: preware will run on webOS 2.2 and probably webOS 3.x too Feb 14 09:54:45 gour: since it uses the official developer side-loading capabilities to install itself Feb 14 09:55:06 and then uses the same method to install things that the app catalog uses Feb 14 09:55:16 rwhitby: :-) Feb 14 09:55:35 intentional compatibility means we stay working :) Feb 14 09:56:58 gour: I have also had a number of discussions about how Preware works with the head of Palm device security. Feb 14 09:58:33 there is an agreed bright line of security, which allows those who never turn on developer mode to enjoy all the inherent security of the app catalog, and those who turn on developer mode and install preware to enjoy the additional functionality. Feb 14 09:58:55 sounds good Feb 14 09:59:20 the two groups of people remain separate, and one cannot change groups without a conscious action that requires hooking to the phone up to a computer once. Feb 14 09:59:47 i.e. malware cannot install Preware Feb 14 10:06:17 congrats! Feb 14 10:13:42 rwhitby can you tell me the right link for linphone 0.1.4? somehow the link Thibaud gave me could not be changed to load 0.1.4 :) Feb 14 10:14:02 Holliefant: add -pre or -pixi to the end Feb 14 10:14:16 ah ok ill try that :) Feb 14 11:23:46 what are SAR values for pre models? Feb 14 11:24:44 *pre2 Feb 14 11:24:55 i've found for pre...it's a bit high :-/ Feb 14 12:04:00 Holliefant: surprised, the link you were given was rod's post (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing-3.html#post2863905), what went wrong then? Feb 14 12:29:42 * Thibaud bbl Feb 14 12:38:28 considering i plan to move to freebsd (from linux) soon, i wonder if palm sdk & other webos-internals tools would work on linux runnung under vbox? Feb 14 13:05:21 rwhitby: i just read http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/02/hp-makes-investment-in-homebrew-community/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+webosroundup+%28webOSroundup%29 and wonder why there is no more coverage that HP is not so hostile towards linux and hacking on webOS? (or am i simply ignorant) Feb 14 14:10:42 hi, any chance to test your new VOIP-Client alghough it's still no in the feed? Feb 14 14:18:39 splashote: hi, what device(s) & SIP provider(s)? Feb 14 14:19:16 Pre and I'd try 1&1 (germany) Feb 14 14:19:35 splashote: so 1.4.5, right? Feb 14 14:19:42 Thibaud: right Feb 14 14:22:02 splashote: good, see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy needed. Feb 14 14:23:37 Thibaud: ok, great. I'll try my best to contribute information. Thanks for your great work, I really got upset when I heard about HP's 2.0 strategy and I only calmed as I read from linphone Feb 14 14:23:50 splashote: err, wait a little, not on my usual IRC client... ;) Feb 14 14:24:02 Thibaud: k Feb 14 14:57:36 just saw the slashdot post, excellent. Feb 14 15:00:24 indeed Feb 14 15:00:49 * gour considered that HP improved its image in his eyes Feb 14 16:05:26 Greetings. I would be interested in alpha-testing linphone on the Pixi Plus. I have SIP accounts with sipgate.com, sipgate.de, betamax and asterisk to test this with. Any pointers? Feb 14 16:05:28 infobot: status Feb 14 16:05:29 Since Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 22 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 7 commands. I have been awake for 6h 8m 58s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids. I'm using about 15492 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 70.93/2.43 child 0.01/0 Feb 14 16:06:10 infobot: hey nice, back from the deads it appears! Feb 14 16:08:15 burks: greetings! Thing is I'm not finished with the CSS rework, so Linphone user experience is pretty bad at the moment (unwanted touches and scroll needed, really awkward, trust me). Feb 14 16:09:15 burks: may I ask you to stay tuned and ask again for the next coming revision? Pixi should be fine this evening/tomorrow then :) Feb 14 16:09:56 burks: will be announced by Rod on twitter & P|C alpha thread Feb 14 16:10:16 Thibaud: Sure. Let me know if you need help with the css Feb 14 16:11:14 burks: guess I should be fine, but thanks anyway. :) Feb 14 16:11:58 Thibaud: great. Feb 14 16:13:20 Thibaud: do you need any testing done on Unlocked GSM Pre 2 (2.0.1) and O2 UK Pre minus (1.4.5)? I have a voipstunt.com account Feb 14 16:16:05 pancro: 2.x is apparently suffering a service issue on app restart, so I'd recommend 1.4.5 to test your SIP provider (can't prevent you from testing 2.x, but you've been warned!) Feb 14 16:16:14 pancro: see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy needed. Feb 14 16:16:36 Thibaud: will do, thanks very much Feb 14 16:21:01 pancro: BTW no front speaker yet, only back speaker for now so use headset with mic close to mouth if annoying. Feb 14 16:22:55 as good as alpha testing gets :) Feb 14 16:29:46 pancro: "annoying" because back speaker feeds the mic with echo for the person on the other end... Feb 14 16:34:41 burks: I should have been clearer: CSS rework for Pixi... ;) Feb 14 16:49:34 Thibaud: That's what I assumed. :-) Feb 14 17:13:49 hey all - I have a Pre Plus - Verizon - running 1.4.5 i want to start over - ie patches, tweeks, etc. - I don't have access to a computer that can run WebOS Doctor - what are my options? Feb 14 17:15:01 device info Feb 14 17:15:07 reset my device Feb 14 17:15:18 secure erase Feb 14 17:16:26 I've done that Scout - and after it does it's thing, and my apps reinstall and like some of the patches are still there, I installed preware again and can't uninstall patches - preware doesn't see thm as installed Feb 14 17:18:56 * scoutcamper defers to someone else Feb 14 17:19:10 I can't use webOS Doc because I have a mac with 10.5 can't update the Java - and a windows 7 netbook... FML Feb 14 17:19:27 win 7 can doctor just fine Feb 14 17:19:46 maybe because I have Win 7 starter? Feb 14 17:19:59 win 7 starter can doctor Feb 14 17:20:18 just install java Feb 14 17:20:37 when I get home I'll hafta jump on my netbook and screen shot what it does to me when I try Feb 14 17:20:52 can you describe it? Feb 14 17:21:28 it gives me an error saying it's nable to perform process - sorry I don't remember the exact wording.. and then it freezes... I have the latest Java update Feb 14 17:21:35 *unable Feb 14 17:26:14 I'm assimung there's no issue with Ubuntu et al as far as WebOS Doc running? Feb 14 17:27:29 not that i know of Feb 14 17:29:09 I think I'll be converting my Win 7 netbook 2 a BuntuBook Feb 14 17:29:30 since I'll be stuck with this phone til the Pre 3 comes to Verizon Feb 14 17:33:01 yo Feb 14 17:33:03 sup Feb 14 17:34:49 so did anyone make a simple way to tether the Pre Plus via usB so I can use the phone's unlimited Data instead of the MHS?? Feb 14 17:35:19 and yes - Verizon's MHS is capped at 5 GB/month then u incur charges Feb 14 17:35:40 Won't make a difference Feb 14 17:35:49 how come? Feb 14 17:36:02 pfft att is capped at 2gb Feb 14 17:36:37 because its all from the same data source. That 5GB applies to all data on the phone, not just hms Feb 14 17:36:40 mhs* Feb 14 17:36:47 like I want to be able to dl torrents - but my 5GB/Month goes in ... oh about 12 hours.. Feb 14 17:37:26 halfhalo - I'll take a screen shot of my Verizon bill - MHS and Phone Data are tracked separatelyand charged separately Feb 14 17:37:44 boqopod, freetether will do usb, but 5gb still applies, it is the same for anything on the phone, tethering or not 5gb is the max Feb 14 17:38:19 my bill for last month shows 13 GB of usage on the phone and 4.9GB on the MHS Feb 14 17:38:43 my coworkers show the same - different usages of course Feb 14 17:39:07 Ok, they may be monitored seperatly now (gotta look at the bill for my vzw pre), but you will get yourself booted off vzw using that type of data constantly Feb 14 17:39:59 hmmmm - gonna hafta go chat with my local Vzw Phone Geek... Feb 14 17:41:13 lunch break almost over... now I get to watch the progress bar barely move while I render this HD footage... Feb 14 18:12:59 Bonsoir everybody ! I'd love to alpha-test linphone Feb 14 18:13:54 greetings lbmh! what device(s) & SIP provider(s)? Feb 14 18:14:28 lbmh: greetings! what device(s) & SIP provider(s)? Feb 14 18:17:08 Pre plus on Orange to be used with freephonie & ippi, cher Thibaud Feb 14 18:19:02 lbmh: I can already confirm freephonie is perfectly fine on a Pre minus (past 6 months)!!! But ippi is welcome of course, cher lbmh :) Feb 14 18:19:57 lbmh: see /msg & please report success as well as failure with details in alpha P|C thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy needed. Feb 14 18:24:03 Merci Thibaud ! How do I get the download ? Feb 14 19:38:46 wow my battery gives me at least 3 maybe 4 if it's sleep .. I tried a couple govnah setting and turn off stuff to svae battery but I'm always charging .. any apps or anything else that can help me with my battery woes Feb 14 19:40:35 at 11:18 it was 100% it's 11:39 and I'm at 95% Feb 14 19:43:49 it's annoying Feb 14 20:36:58 ~botsmack Feb 14 20:36:59 OWW! Feb 14 20:37:06 w00t Feb 14 20:37:12 infobot has returned :D Feb 14 20:47:26 hay Feb 14 20:47:53 hi PatrickC_Pre, hi everyone, back now :) Feb 14 20:48:12 I need help on a review widget Feb 14 20:48:49 getting ready to upload the code to pastebin. what all do you guys need to help me? lol Feb 14 20:52:49 infobot: status Feb 14 20:52:51 Since Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 44 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 29 commands. I have been awake for 10h 56m 19s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids. I'm using about 15724 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 160.32/5.66 child 0.01/0 Feb 14 20:53:27 hi infobot Feb 14 20:53:58 Yeah, back from the deads! I've been missing him ;) Feb 14 20:54:06 infobot: hi Feb 14 20:54:07 lol Feb 14 20:54:07 what's up, patrickc_pre Feb 14 20:54:15 lol, that's awesome Feb 14 20:54:23 infobot: help Feb 14 20:54:52 infobot: where is HP Palm? Feb 14 20:54:55 PatrickC_Pre: what are you talking about? Feb 14 20:54:59 lol Feb 14 20:55:10 this is fun :) Feb 14 20:55:22 infobot: who is you're creator Feb 14 20:55:23 PatrickC_Pre: what are you talking about? Feb 14 20:55:57 infobot: who is your creator Feb 14 20:55:58 it has been said that your creator is obviously not a geek Feb 14 20:56:18 infobot: what does that mean? Feb 14 20:57:57 lol Feb 14 21:06:06 hay rsanchez1 Feb 14 21:17:31 damn - i didn't sign out at work - lol Feb 14 21:19:02 anyone here to give me a hand figuring out how to clear a Pre Plus and start over? I did the Full Secure Erase... but all the patches are still there - none of the apps other than app store apps downloaded Feb 14 21:22:35 boqopod_: download the doctor Feb 14 21:23:31 doc downloaded Feb 14 21:24:38 run it Feb 14 21:24:50 make sure your phone is off Feb 14 21:24:54 and when the doctor says to plug it in Feb 14 21:25:02 hold the vol-up key and plug in the usb Feb 14 21:25:35 that easy huh? Feb 14 21:25:52 pretty much Feb 14 21:25:54 then click next Feb 14 21:26:04 and itl take like 10-20 mins Feb 14 21:26:11 and be fresh like you just bought it Feb 14 21:26:14 will the pre download and install all previously paid apps when it restarts? Feb 14 21:26:21 when you log in with your profile, yes Feb 14 21:26:26 shit Feb 14 21:26:29 lol o.k. Feb 14 21:26:36 cause that makes the process take about 2 hours Feb 14 21:26:45 what I do Feb 14 21:26:53 is immediately go into the catalog and "pause" them all Feb 14 21:26:55 then setup wifi Feb 14 21:27:01 and start them all one at a time Feb 14 21:27:12 seems to go quicker and have less problems for me that way Feb 14 21:27:21 good deal... thanks Feb 14 21:27:29 np Feb 14 21:27:47 did Puff ever get his tethering app finished he was working on a couple months ago? Feb 14 21:29:07 its been released as beta Feb 14 21:29:10 0.99.13 i think? Feb 14 21:29:18 its in the testing feeds Feb 14 21:29:30 * oil work here is done, goes back to paying job :) Feb 14 21:29:31 bbl Feb 14 21:31:22 lol ttfn Feb 14 22:14:47 hay Feb 14 22:25:36 ~botsnack Feb 14 22:25:38 dtzWill: aw, gee Feb 14 22:25:41 infobot: welcome back :D Feb 14 22:25:43 * dtzWill hugs infobot Feb 14 22:25:44 [all in unison] Hi, back :D! Feb 14 22:26:02 lol Feb 14 22:26:06 ~botsnack Feb 14 22:26:08 ashi_: thanks Feb 14 22:26:10 :) Feb 14 22:26:13 infobot: hi Feb 14 22:26:15 hello, patrickc_home Feb 14 22:26:24 infobot: how's it going? Feb 14 22:26:25 great, and you, patrickc_home? Feb 14 22:26:38 infobot: great! thanks for asking! Feb 14 22:26:41 infobot: status Feb 14 22:26:42 Since Mon Feb 14 09:56:23 2011, there have been 0 modifications, 118 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 62 commands. I have been awake for 12h 30m 9s this session, and currently reference 117692 factoids. I'm using about 18280 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 195.76/8.54 child 0.01/0 Feb 14 22:27:06 i like how he has "0 morons" lol Feb 14 22:32:31 ~botsmack Feb 14 22:32:33 OWW! Feb 14 22:33:27 you go rsanchez1! get 'em! Feb 14 22:34:20 i love playing around with the bots :) Feb 14 22:34:32 infobot: who is rsanchez1? Feb 14 22:34:34 PatrickC_Home: I think you lost me on that one Feb 14 22:34:46 yay, i got the bot confused! Feb 14 22:35:40 infobot: bye Feb 14 22:35:40 bye bye Feb 14 22:37:01 infobot: who is the fairest maiden of them all? Feb 14 22:37:02 infobot: PatrickC is some guy that abuses me Feb 14 22:37:04 rsanchez1: what are you talking about? Feb 14 22:37:04 zsoc: okay Feb 14 22:37:39 infobot: zsoc is lying Feb 14 22:37:41 ...but zsoc is already something else... Feb 14 22:37:49 ha I guess infobot has no sympathy for zsoc Feb 14 22:37:53 Infobot can be contacted privately so as to not clutter the channel logs Feb 14 22:38:10 scoutcamper: I enjoy cluttering the channel logs, got me where I am today. Feb 14 22:38:20 zsoc, lol Feb 14 22:38:21 infobot: who is zsoc? Feb 14 22:38:22 methinks zsoc is the OWHE, original webos hacker extraordinaire, and don't forget it. He's fluent in Hungarian, and wears mc hammer pants. Feb 14 22:38:31 Ah, forgot about the pants. Feb 14 22:38:40 ha! Feb 14 22:38:43 who taught infobot that? lol Feb 14 22:39:09 egaudet methinks :} Feb 14 22:39:16 \o/ ITS ALIVE! Feb 14 22:39:31 halfhalo: that's what she said Feb 14 22:40:09 bbl cya Feb 14 22:40:16 infobot: bye Feb 14 22:40:17 cya Feb 14 22:40:20 * halfhalo got fancy search removal working for the new patches portal Feb 14 22:40:52 I will still be lurking on the Pre+ though :) Feb 14 22:41:54 now infobot just needs to show up in #webos... Feb 14 22:42:22 that would be awesome! lol Feb 14 22:52:30 then infobot will show up on PreCentral, then on your phone, then your computer... Feb 14 22:52:36 pretty soon it will be skynet all over again Feb 14 23:00:33 factinfo zsoc Feb 14 23:00:36 ~factinfo zsoc Feb 14 23:00:37 zsoc -- created by zsoc at Mon Jan 4 18:26:31 2010 (406 days); last modified at Wed Mar 3 06:47:49 2010 by zsoc|away!~lll@unaffiliated/zsoc; it has been requested 13 times, last by zsoc, 22m 16s ago. Feb 14 23:00:41 O= Feb 14 23:00:47 lulz Feb 14 23:00:48 lol Feb 14 23:03:53 i did not say i had parachute pants D: Feb 14 23:04:22 zsoc: probably someone else did, but you touched it up slightly later. Feb 14 23:04:26 i see :> Feb 14 23:04:59