**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 19 02:59:57 2011 Feb 19 04:13:12 dead in the internals tonight Feb 19 04:13:22 yup Feb 19 04:13:40 * cdm wonders what kinda of crazy questions he can answer Feb 19 04:14:47 http://patch.preyourmind.org/ < wip but theres some new fancy stuff in there now Feb 19 04:19:39 cdm, hows life ? Feb 19 04:21:09 cdm, how much memory does the modem use in the pixi? Feb 19 07:20:23 is the linphone developer open to more alpha testers? i'd like to give it a try. Feb 19 07:24:27 what is your device and sip provider? Feb 19 07:58:47 sorry- was away. i have SIP service through both gizmo5 and sipgate. using a Pre Plus that has had the comm board switched our for the comm board from my Spring Pre minus. Feb 19 07:59:09 *switched out* Feb 19 08:01:12 *Sprint* Feb 19 08:03:28 Ricyteach: see /msg and report back in the precentral thrad Feb 19 08:03:30 thread Feb 19 08:05:37 excellent. i'll be there. Feb 19 13:01:04 hi Feb 19 13:01:35 good morning Feb 19 13:01:40 I am looking for someone who is using Navit on a Pre2 and would like to test a new package before release .. Feb 19 13:03:44 I am not currently using it on my pre2, but I have one I can test with Feb 19 13:04:11 stupid gsm/cdma divide means I bring my pre plus with me everywhere still Feb 19 13:04:31 * Thibaud thinks he would really like to give it a try someday, but he must finish linphone first ... and have a Pre2 (which is on the way) ;) Feb 19 13:04:58 Loudergood: hmm, a fresh install would be a nice test aswell, did just test upgrades yet Feb 19 13:05:40 Loudergood: now, how to get that package to you Feb 19 13:08:21 email is fine Feb 19 13:10:30 Loudergood: http://ompldr.org/vN2g3dQ Feb 19 13:10:55 that works too Feb 19 13:11:10 this is my second attempt to mess around with the jailer. last time I broke navit on the pre2, this time it should work. but I need confirmation ;) Feb 19 13:11:16 I should be able to play with it this afternoon Feb 19 13:11:24 okay, great Feb 19 13:11:43 how would you like feedback? Feb 19 13:11:52 irc is fine Feb 19 13:11:56 ok Feb 19 13:12:38 I have my client running all the time, so I will see it when I get back to m< computer Feb 19 13:14:00 oh, as far as I know, GPS isn't working properly on the Pre2. But maybe Palm/HP has fixed that permissions-bug by now ... Feb 19 13:20:00 noradtux: ERROR: An error occurred while attempting to install org.vvebosinternals.navit_0.5.0.4208-0_armv7.ipk Package dependencies not satisfied Feb 19 13:20:35 oh, yes, it depends on locales and speech-dispatcher from preware Feb 19 13:20:45 What i must do? Feb 19 13:20:56 you need to install those via preware Feb 19 13:21:08 or wosqi Feb 19 13:21:45 What means "mess around with the jailer"? What are you doing? Feb 19 13:21:50 which packags? Feb 19 13:22:41 noradtux: Inatall via preware what? Feb 19 13:22:59 locales and speech-dispatcher Feb 19 13:23:32 noradtux: thanks Feb 19 13:49:28 hello class Feb 19 13:49:56 I want to install preware on a sprint palm pixi. It is not connected to the sprint network anymore and there is no wifi Feb 19 13:50:07 would it be a waste of time, or can I install apps through the usb Feb 19 13:53:00 I think webOS Quick Install would be your best bet in those circumstances, since Preware needs an internet connection to access the feeds. Feb 19 13:53:57 You could transfer the ipks via USB and then install with PreWare, but in this instance I think webOS QI would be a whole lot simpler Feb 19 13:54:32 thanks, I will look into that Feb 19 13:54:48 Some game it to me for my kids Feb 19 13:55:09 I wanted to put some games on it Feb 19 13:55:20 seems impossible without some kind of root Feb 19 14:05:00 webosqi ? i can't seem to find it Feb 19 14:06:24 found it in the pre central forums Feb 19 16:51:46 Cache_: hi, sure! what is your device and sip provider? Feb 19 16:55:29 Cache_: May I ask you we use the public channel for the public stuff, I'll use the private chat when it comes to the dl link? Feb 19 16:56:00 Thibaud, ok, sorry about that. My IRC is 20 years or so rusty ;-) Feb 19 16:56:25 I'm registered with Callwithus.com for my SIP account. I rent a DID through them. They are great. Feb 19 16:56:28 Cache_: all good, consider my an IRC noob ;) Feb 19 16:56:41 s/my/me/ Feb 19 16:56:42 Thibaud meant: Cache_: all good, consider me an IRC noob ;) Feb 19 16:57:12 Thibaud: Gotcha, no worries. I use eyebeam pro on my PC, and been waiting since June 2009 for SIP on Pre Feb 19 16:57:58 Cache_: From day 1, wow! :) Feb 19 16:58:02 Cache_: see /msg & please report failure(s) & success in the P|C alpha thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy is needed Feb 19 16:58:10 Thibaud: Also building an small asterisk server for my work, but haven't put in much time on it lately. Feb 19 16:59:24 Thibaud: Thanks M8! I'll post my success/problems in the precentral forum. Thx again. Feb 19 16:59:39 Cache_: :) Feb 19 17:01:16 Cache_: please do test with your asterisk server too: the more tests you try, the better for the community Feb 19 17:01:16 Thibaud: Day 3, actually ;-) Feb 19 17:02:18 Cache_: earlier than me anyway, I had to wait for a decent price en eBay. Played with the emu until October 2009! Feb 19 17:02:20 Thibaud: Asterisk isn't up and running yet; I'm converting a small key system pbx in my office to VoiP, and my main work duties take priority. Feb 19 17:03:10 Thibaud: the timing was right, my i530 was getting a bit old ;-) Feb 19 17:03:50 Can't wait for the Pre3, assuming it's on Sprint. Feb 19 17:04:29 Cache_: (asterisk server) so Callwithus.com will just be fine Feb 19 17:05:05 Cahce_: Pre3 & Touchpad, yep! Feb 19 17:05:28 s/Cahce_/Cache_/ Feb 19 17:05:29 Thibaud meant: Cache_: Pre3 & Touchpad, yep! Feb 19 17:05:42 As a Callwithus.com customer, I highly recommend them. They have some great features for long distance calling, and I love my DID. Feb 19 17:06:05 Yes, I'm all over the webos trifecta when they hit retail. Feb 19 17:07:07 My 12 y.o. turns 13 in Autumn, so Veer will be perfect for her, and we can share a TouchPad. Feb 19 17:07:28 OK, channel, off to do some alpha testing. Have a great weekend everyone. Feb 19 17:08:54 what up all Feb 19 18:16:42 Hi all. I'd like to help alpha test liphone for webos. I have a sip account and I am a programmer so I may be able to help debug. Feb 19 18:19:40 Does anyone here know who I should talk to to get access to the alpa? Feb 19 18:21:27 is anyone here? Feb 19 18:21:34 Thibaud or rwhitby are the ones you should talk to Feb 19 18:22:50 thank you Feb 19 18:24:15 * Thibaud is on duty while rwhitby is either 1) having a good sleep 2) having fun and maybe sleep later ;) Feb 19 18:24:57 minego: hi, what is your device and sip provider? Feb 19 18:26:18 I'm on a pre plus (verizon). my sip server is my works. I forget the software name, but I an go check if needed. Feb 19 18:26:37 I'm also happy to try other services to test Feb 19 18:27:26 minego: see /msg & please report failure(s) & success in the P|C alpha thread (http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html). PM if privacy is needed Feb 19 18:29:13 thanks! Feb 19 18:29:30 minego: ditto Feb 19 18:40:40 sooo...now to test navit Feb 19 19:47:53 there a patch to put to have emotions any any app .. the one where you press symbol k or z .. i think i can only do it on memos .. i can't do it for text and email Feb 19 20:00:43 Thibaud: any update on the next version of Linphone ? (just curious, no rush :) ) Feb 19 20:10:52 noradtux: instsalled navit via preware and a new package after it, downloaded and installed maps, run and nothing on screen Feb 19 20:11:36 noradtux: How I can see my current position? It's blank screen when I run the app Feb 19 20:19:00 rwhitby: if you are around, I am game for trying to figure out the jailer problem Feb 19 20:19:04 Tema1978|2, http://www.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Application:Navit#On_starting_up_issues_ie_why_the_map_layer_isn.27t_loading.3F Feb 19 20:52:10 RagingMind: thanks Feb 19 22:17:14 I think webOS Quick Install would be your best bet in those circumstances, since Preware needs an internet connection to access the feeds. Feb 19 22:17:44 err...whoops...disregard Feb 19 22:22:06 rwhitby: if O2 really does get a 2.0 update via a doctor image that should have the files we Feb 19 22:22:11 're looking for Feb 19 22:22:25 * Josef_B blinks and looks in Feb 19 22:22:28 :D Feb 19 22:22:35 im hearing good news eh destinal Feb 19 22:22:37 and if it's a Pre+ doctor, you should be able to get it running on a Pre-, I assume? Feb 19 22:22:53 SineOt: yeah pre+ and pre- are the same board Feb 19 22:23:20 too bad there's basically no hope for the Pixi by this point Feb 19 22:24:13 SineOt: that depends very much on any hardware similarities to veer or pre3 Feb 19 22:24:51 basically none, since the Veer and Pre3 are both armV7 cores and the Pixi is running an armV6 Feb 19 22:25:10 ah Feb 19 22:26:30 I'd imagine you'd need to recompile at least a few things Feb 19 22:26:38 is there an O2 pixi? lol Feb 19 22:26:57 yup Feb 19 22:27:10 Loudergood: if O2 is willing to acknowledge that pre- has too little RAM for 2.0 than the same would apply to pixi though Feb 19 22:27:13 but the language on that post from the support folks said that there weren't plans for the Pixi to get it Feb 19 22:27:16 true.. Feb 19 22:27:30 and that the only device that would get anything would be the Pre+ Feb 19 22:27:52 is the GPU driver situation the only thing holding back a doctor for pre+ right now then? Feb 19 22:28:09 Loudergood: the graphics libraries, yes Feb 19 22:28:12 to my knowledge yes Feb 19 22:29:01 I wonder if qualcomms drivers are more completely open.. Feb 19 22:29:17 Loudergood: good question, I haven't checked into it Feb 19 22:29:48 SineOt, sethron I've passed off the booth stuff to rboatright and he will be contacting you...I have too many other responsibilities @ SCALE :( Feb 19 22:30:45 totally forgot about that Feb 19 22:30:55 when is it ka6sox-away? Feb 19 22:31:06 next weekend Feb 19 22:31:10 hm Feb 19 22:31:16 I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it Feb 19 22:31:28 SineOt you jumping ship ? Feb 19 22:31:48 it's not jumping ship :[ Feb 19 22:36:50 hey all Feb 19 22:37:22 looking for the OTA via root instructions to install preware on my pre plus Feb 19 22:39:37 boqopod: any reason not to just run palm-install on a PC? Feb 19 22:40:36 yes - no nternet connection - I'm on thw MHS atm Feb 19 22:41:10 mhs ? Feb 19 22:41:23 Mobile Hot Spot Feb 19 22:41:29 oh Feb 19 22:41:35 webos quickinstall boqopod ? Feb 19 22:41:41 cd /tmp; wget gitorious.org/webos-internals/bootstrap/blobs/raw/master/preware-bootstrap.sh; sh preware-bootstrap.sh Feb 19 22:41:44 may do the trick Feb 19 22:42:20 thanks Destinal - it used to be on the preware.org site at one point - because that's where I read it... Feb 19 22:42:20 destinal where are you located ? Feb 19 22:42:57 I'm on a mac OS 10.4 - can't get the java update to use webOS Doc Feb 19 22:43:08 Josef_B: near Denver, Colorado, US Feb 19 22:43:40 Good ole Denver - I miss being able to drive down to LoDo for Swing Dancing... lol Feb 19 22:43:58 <- lived in evergreen in JeffCo Feb 19 22:44:54 http://get.preware.org/ Feb 19 22:45:07 has a link to the ipk Feb 19 22:45:45 gkatsev: yeah but a local on device install still needs a postinst, so the bootstrap is easer for that Feb 19 22:45:48 easier, even Feb 19 22:45:52 right Feb 19 22:46:35 there is even a bit.ly link to it: bit.ly/preware-bootstrap Feb 19 22:52:19 boo Feb 19 23:13:43 Hi all! Any way to mount a directory over SSH onto my Pre? I'd like to mount a directory from my desktop and then be able to browse it with Internalz. Feb 19 23:16:30 I tried using Terminal and trying to use the 'sshfs' utility but it's not installed, and I'm not sure if there's a way to install it. Feb 20 00:34:42 hello **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 20 02:59:57 2011