**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 26 02:59:57 2011 Feb 26 02:59:59 i gets that first stage done Feb 26 03:00:07 says its restarting, waiting for device Feb 26 03:00:14 and doesn't seem to pick it up when it boots Feb 26 03:00:18 times out Feb 26 03:00:54 palmos faq suggests bad cable, but i tried on two retail usb cables (not to mention, it does upload the ramdisk etc. all ok) Feb 26 03:01:15 it just fails to properly reboot the device or something Feb 26 03:01:34 i do know that i can novaterm back into the box after the supposed reboot Feb 26 03:01:55 tried webos doctor 1.4.0 , 1.4.1.1 and 1.4.5 Feb 26 03:02:07 just weird because it seems to work fine, except for this Feb 26 03:04:17 tried to reboot the device again manually, hoping that it would pick up afterwards - still no such luck Feb 26 03:05:50 anyone know how to get paid apps on officially supported carrier after activated on unsupported carrier then wiped and reactivated on supported carrier? Feb 26 03:06:03 everyones hre! Feb 26 03:07:02 ok, SOMEONE FORGOT A WEBCAM Feb 26 03:08:52 uggg.... gotta get my laptop Feb 26 03:08:54 also, can anyone tell me how to completely dump the OS on a Pre 2? Feb 26 03:09:17 INFO: Loading Ramdisk: Waiting for device to come back Feb 26 03:09:17 err -1 "Timeout waiting for device to appear" Feb 26 03:22:00 can I novaterm into my phone to do save/restore? Feb 26 03:22:38 or do save/restore from anything that doesn't involve a touchscreen Feb 26 03:24:31 diov: you cannot change country of first activation Feb 26 03:24:45 diov: "make memboot-wr backup" in the meta-doctor Feb 26 03:25:07 chrispy_: if that happens, unplug and replug the device while it's waiting Feb 26 03:28:35 +rwhitby thanks! and i can change carriers in the some country correct? Feb 26 03:28:55 *same Feb 26 03:29:00 depends on the phone Feb 26 03:29:26 its a unlocked pre 2 from HP Feb 26 03:29:58 rwhitby: thanks - i've tried that... with no success it seems. just goes until it times out Feb 26 03:31:10 i can novaterm into the phone after it reboots Feb 26 03:31:19 is there anything i can do to "jumpstart" the process? Feb 26 03:33:23 i know its rebooting.. the uptime looks right - and i see a quick blink of the usb logo which to me indicates it rebooted Feb 26 03:33:25 turns out it was a bad battery. Switched to the spare and it's working beautifully Feb 26 03:33:50 yay, i desaturated the images for the launcher background in 2.1.0, so much better! Feb 26 03:33:59 that blue is really awful Feb 26 03:34:00 for whatever reason, doctor (or anything else for that matter) doesn't "see" it come back up. same on windows, osx, and linux (argh) Feb 26 03:39:24 +rwhitby do i have to have the pre 2 plugged in to use make memboot-wr backup? Feb 26 03:39:26 Real quick question. I'm looking to upgrade my vzw pre+. Do I use the 2.0.1 from verizon or the 2.1.0 from o2? Feb 26 03:40:14 Anyone tried some themes on 2.1? Super glass icons is what I used on 1.4.5, but I'm scared to apply it to 2.0 Feb 26 03:40:30 s/2.1/2.0 Feb 26 03:43:35 * halfhalo has laptop with webcam Feb 26 03:44:05 * scoutcamper applauds halfhalo Feb 26 03:44:14 * halfhalo has windows laptop at the scales Feb 26 03:44:26 any way disable notifications from Software Manager? Don't see anything in prefs Feb 26 03:44:35 diov: if you don't have the device plugged in, how would you expect the data to be retrieved from it? Feb 26 03:45:01 rwhitby: as soon as cryptk|offline finds his way down for food we are going to try a skype test Feb 26 03:45:02 chrispy_: do you have the Pre 2 novacom drivers installed? Feb 26 03:45:13 halfhalo, with VM of ubuntu, yes? Feb 26 03:45:18 +rwhitby very good point! Feb 26 03:45:24 halfhalo: I'd better put pants on then Feb 26 03:45:33 rwhitby, TMI Feb 26 03:45:54 * rwhitby jokes Feb 26 03:45:55 for osx and windows, i simply had whatever the 1.4.5 pixi download from HP (and webinternals direct link) gave me Feb 26 03:46:10 chrispy_: oh, this is a pixi? Feb 26 03:46:18 yeah Feb 26 03:46:43 doesnt need to put pants on to sit at a desk Feb 26 03:47:17 ballbuster is what it is. checked all the filesysystems on the device, everything seems ok - just has no love on the reboot Feb 26 03:48:10 you better have pants... we are pretty much all going to be here Feb 26 03:48:59 * rwhitby might take the call outside Feb 26 03:50:01 is there a way to control a device via a computer (like the emu) Feb 26 03:51:56 this food is vaporware Feb 26 03:53:03 halfhalo, what r u eating? Feb 26 03:54:47 NOTHING because we have yet to get food vouchers Feb 26 03:55:45 lol Feb 26 03:55:53 does cryptk|offline have them? Feb 26 03:56:06 he's still working Feb 26 03:56:52 so, they r just invisible? Feb 26 03:57:39 * djwhitey_pre is headed to the bar :) Feb 26 03:57:57 wooo webcam is working with skpe Feb 26 03:58:10 its windows, it should Feb 26 03:58:26 (unlike my ubuntu laptop) Feb 26 03:59:05 ping rwhitby Feb 26 03:59:10 gu Feb 26 03:59:57 we can test skype now, since cryptk|offline is still working right now, but I have it setup on my accnt Feb 26 04:01:32 for a meta doctor to upgrade a vzw pre+, which image should I download for the script to work? Feb 26 04:03:32 nevermind that question. Feb 26 04:04:03 I get the following error when I try to run the verizon preplus script: Feb 26 04:04:05 $ ./meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 which: no java in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/ NVIDIA Corporation/PhysX/Common:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Common Files/Microsoft Shared/Windows Live:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Microsoft Shar ed/Windows Live:/cygdrive/c/Windows/system32:/cygdrive/c/Windows:/cygdrive/c/Win dows/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0/: Feb 26 04:04:35 make sure your path can seen java somewhere Feb 26 04:04:48 so, would anyone have an idea why a phone would just randomly zero out the msid meid andprl? Feb 26 04:05:09 How do I create the path to java that is on my c:? I'm using cygwin for this. Feb 26 04:05:16 Sanglant: where is java installed ? Feb 26 04:05:42 C:\Program Files\Java\jre6 Feb 26 04:06:19 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4918830/javac-path-setting-on-cygwin - that's a good thing to look at Feb 26 04:06:24 adapt it to where your java is .. Feb 26 04:06:59 Thanks Feb 26 04:07:02 np Feb 26 04:10:19 It's downloading the doctor now. You guys are the greatest. I probably won't get to upgrading until Sunday evening though. Feb 26 04:10:41 There will definitely be a donation coming your way next week. Feb 26 04:10:57 neat Feb 26 05:01:34 I bet it's the ZNC that the server admin guys use is connecting him back Feb 26 05:03:22 rwhitby, nope, rick-away is on that server as well Feb 26 05:10:33 rwhitby go, on phone Feb 26 05:15:09 hay joebpre Feb 26 05:15:09 yo Feb 26 05:15:31 I'm back on 1.4.5 just cause Feb 26 05:18:26 what's wrong with 2.1? Feb 26 05:19:55 nothing Feb 26 05:20:00 joebpre, the Pixi is working again :p Feb 26 05:20:18 just comfortable 0_o Feb 26 05:20:19 PatrickC_Pre, what was the issue? Feb 26 05:20:31 PatrickC_Pre: how you fix ? Feb 26 05:20:58 idk, I did some luna-send commands (to call someone and text them) unplugged the phone, and BA Feb 26 05:21:11 *BAM* it worked Feb 26 05:21:29 wow wierd Feb 26 05:21:35 yea I know Feb 26 05:21:56 I'm still gonna have sprint replace it, its my everyday phone Feb 26 05:22:24 PatrickC_Pre, break it Feb 26 05:22:40 break it how? lol Feb 26 05:22:54 if your gonna have it fixed, take out your anger at HP on it Feb 26 05:22:57 be creative Feb 26 05:23:08 hmmm Feb 26 05:23:14 chainsaw? hammer? run it over? Feb 26 05:23:18 put a 2.1 rom on it? Feb 26 05:23:20 :) Feb 26 05:24:01 can you get a dev device repaired? Feb 26 05:24:24 i doubt it Feb 26 05:24:28 man Feb 26 05:24:44 my screen chipped, and the KB isn't all that responsive Feb 26 05:25:05 be likr Feb 26 05:25:14 be likr? Feb 26 05:25:19 be like* gimme a pre3 Feb 26 05:25:53 yea Feb 26 05:25:55 I wish Feb 26 05:26:31 tell them you want a pre2 Feb 26 05:26:38 again.. I wish Feb 26 05:26:44 I want a Pre-! Feb 26 05:26:56 but they wont giveme :( Feb 26 05:29:27 will pre2 kernels work on 2.1? Feb 26 05:30:28 when 2.1 is released for the Pre2, yes. Feb 26 05:31:05 Ok, booting my gf's Telcel Pre- :D Feb 26 05:31:14 will 2.1 Kernels work on vzw pre+'s? (once we have the source) Feb 26 05:31:18 Thanks for fixing Meta Doctor Rod! :D Feb 26 05:33:08 no worries Feb 26 05:33:22 PatrickC_Pre, 48hrs after we have the source i am sure rwhitby and unixphsyco will have OC for all 2.1 devices at that time Feb 26 05:33:46 I'd just like that everyone acknowledge your work and not took credit for it :@ Feb 26 05:34:00 s/took/take/ Feb 26 05:34:02 NuttyBunny meant: I'd just like that everyone acknowledge your work and not take credit for it :@ Feb 26 05:36:50 NuttyBunny: I didn't get that from that thread, I didn't see someone else taking credit. illegal distribution yet. Feb 26 05:39:25 It's not that they take credit, but they don't even link to your work and I'm pretty sure they use meta doctor to create they custom doctors (even with the Barleywine one) Feb 26 05:44:19 how is everyone tonight? Feb 26 05:44:51 NuttyBunny: yeah, they do use the meta-doctor. maybe I should make it mark the output Feb 26 05:45:17 rwhitby, nah, just get palm to sick the lawyers on them Feb 26 05:45:32 No, they won't be able to do anything Feb 26 05:45:56 NuttyBunny: servers hosted in the US ? Feb 26 05:46:13 I don't think so, let me do a quick check Feb 26 05:47:26 what we talking about? Feb 26 05:48:08 hehehe... what do you know... yes, US servers :) Feb 26 05:48:27 PoderPDA.com guys, they like to "share" games and apps, and Doctors Feb 26 05:49:02 rwhitby, they r hosted by DreamHost in Florida Feb 26 05:49:09 doctors... ooo Feb 26 05:49:36 Well, they don't host the doctors, they give links to modified doctors Feb 26 05:50:28 are they the people that leaked the beta doctor? Feb 26 05:51:09 well, I saw the doctor there, I don't know if they were the first, but yes, they did release it Feb 26 05:52:35 they're a badddd site lol Feb 26 06:09:15 scoutcamper: sicking palm on people? meh Feb 26 06:15:18 Well, gotta go guys :) Feb 26 06:15:38 cya NuttyBunny Feb 26 06:21:10 destinal: HP has enough lawyers that I presume they can do that job without needing any help from an open source development group Feb 26 06:25:30 rwhitby: indeed Feb 26 06:57:56 good night Feb 26 07:42:46 I blame Adora for my current predicament Feb 26 07:44:12 actually, its her fault for real Feb 26 07:44:44 I yanked the sd card from my camera before I left for my house, but sorta kinda forgot that every device that reads sd cards is still at scale Feb 26 07:49:36 got my pre wroking again Feb 26 07:54:18 oh COME ON. I have another digital camera with an sd slot.... but guess where the only cord for it is Feb 26 07:55:13 * halfhalo gives up and goes to sleep to get up early for tomorrow Feb 26 08:11:29 where halfhalo Feb 26 08:42:16 * Jack87 has all of halfhalo's stuff Feb 26 08:42:59 dumbledore: only cord is here at scale Feb 26 09:36:46 Hola! Feb 26 09:36:59 hola Feb 26 09:38:04 Hi MetaView Feb 26 09:38:26 hi hape Feb 26 09:38:52 how is all Feb 26 09:39:01 MetaView: As you updated your Pre- to 2.1. Could you please check if BFGMaps is still working Feb 26 09:40:04 and thatks for updateting uebercalender that fast Feb 26 09:40:17 No, I can't Feb 26 09:40:28 or wait Feb 26 09:40:29 ok Feb 26 09:40:55 Do the apps you created are running on 2.1? I eould miss them if they don't. Feb 26 09:41:06 I tried to reflash the Pre- to 1.4.5 yesterday Feb 26 09:41:10 but without luck Feb 26 09:41:22 I'm not sure what he has now, just rebooting Feb 26 09:52:48 rwhitby: are you around? Feb 26 09:52:59 yep Feb 26 09:53:25 I just looked at terminus and found it runs fine when started from a command line Feb 26 09:53:33 but not from the launcher Feb 26 09:53:48 can it be that the "game" type now also run in a jail? Feb 26 09:53:51 likely a jail configuration problem then Feb 26 09:53:54 it does Feb 26 09:54:03 how could this be solved? Feb 26 09:54:28 pre-insert a native jail config line into jailusers via the postinst script Feb 26 09:54:48 ah, ok , let me check Feb 26 09:55:09 see the last part of http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application_Signing Feb 26 09:57:24 terminus has a line there, 5670:5000:us.ryanhope.terminus:/var/palm/jail/us.ryanhope.terminus:/etc/jail_game.conf Feb 26 09:59:40 yes, this works Feb 26 10:18:22 rwhitby: I wouldn't know how I could add it into the postinst script... Feb 26 10:25:25 ah, found somethig Feb 26 10:28:44 reboot Feb 26 11:28:50 hola all Feb 26 11:29:16 scale has been a blast so far. the bof went pretty good methinks Feb 26 11:30:46 cryptk: nice Feb 26 11:31:35 * rwhitby bbt - finished and pushed the --wifi-only flag for all meta-scripts Feb 26 11:33:23 rwhitby, fun you kinda joined us via skype haha Feb 26 11:33:36 rwhitby, up for testing skype right now? although i am running tether Feb 26 11:35:19 I was a bit unclear of what was happening... was there a connection issues or were you turning off the video Feb 26 11:36:21 if you have time randomly tomorrow to jump on skype, lemme know. Feb 26 14:06:10 good morning Feb 26 14:12:02 hi Feb 26 14:20:07 Anyone sucessfully added Flash to legacy devices? Feb 26 15:11:19 uggg Feb 26 15:11:21 TO EARLY Feb 26 15:27:48 artitumis: yes, I've succesfully added flash to a legacy device Feb 26 15:27:59 after most of the day futzing with it yesterday Feb 26 15:28:40 jason's method worked perfectly once i finally built the ipk with the correct file structure. Feb 26 15:29:45 I also had to install it with Preware...quick install threw up errors. Feb 26 15:36:01 I understand why Palm left it out, though...video runs at about 1-2 frames per second. Feb 26 15:38:38 idontwan2know: Nice. I'm having trouble getting a spare Pre to activate so I can create a new Palm Profile on it. Feb 26 15:45:45 damn this speaker popping Feb 26 15:45:59 im trying to get tethering to work Feb 26 15:46:22 does freetether work for the most part? i couldnt get mytether to work Feb 26 15:46:47 freetether has always worked great for me Feb 26 15:46:52 mytether not so much Feb 26 15:48:07 i just had to flash webos again because the freetetherd thing i installed along with mytether screwed the internet connection Feb 26 15:48:27 not surprised Feb 26 15:48:31 is it still on the testing eed only? Feb 26 15:48:42 not sure Feb 26 15:48:57 I don't see it in my preware, but I'm on 2.1 Feb 26 15:49:20 testing feed only Feb 26 16:39:45 hum, I ran the first-use app and now preware is gone from my just doctored pre plus with 2.1 Feb 26 16:39:56 what's up? Feb 26 16:40:08 hey PatrickC_Pre Feb 26 16:40:18 how is everyone? Feb 26 16:40:36 great! Feb 26 16:40:47 wishing i was at SCALE though Feb 26 16:40:53 still messing around with the new pre trying to get it activated. Feb 26 16:41:23 scoutcamper, I think we all are lol Feb 26 16:41:48 artitumis, what's not working? or are you just playing around? Feb 26 16:42:28 PatrickC_Pre: trying to get it activated on the network. Feb 26 16:42:38 activation is failing. Feb 26 16:42:52 over wifi? Feb 26 16:43:15 nah, actually activating it over the cell network. changed phone info on sprint's site and now trying to get it to take. Feb 26 16:43:59 the easiest way I know is to call customer support and have them fix it Feb 26 16:44:15 they aren't much help. Feb 26 16:44:39 actually got hung up on a few minutes ago when she said she had to let her supervisor know what was going on. Feb 26 16:44:43 they were a ton of help to me last night Feb 26 16:44:48 wow Feb 26 16:44:57 just call and ask to talk to a supervisor Feb 26 16:45:35 i don't think she meant to hang up on me. Feb 26 16:45:48 part of the problem is the data connection is trying to resolve and i have shitty service right now. Feb 26 16:45:57 my airave doesn't want to turn back on. Feb 26 16:46:09 airave's rock! Feb 26 16:46:17 unplug/replug? Feb 26 16:46:17 i know i love it. Feb 26 16:46:28 do you have wifi? Feb 26 16:46:39 i've switched it off using the switch several times. it's just being picky Feb 26 16:46:43 yeah my wifi seems fine. Feb 26 16:47:00 activate over wifi? Feb 26 16:47:15 that's never worked for me. Feb 26 16:47:27 nutty tried to get that to work with me the other night. Feb 26 16:47:39 did you use Arthur Thorton's patch? Feb 26 16:47:42 yup Feb 26 16:47:49 you were helping me, too. remember? Feb 26 16:48:12 was I? lol Feb 26 16:48:17 I don't remember.. Feb 26 16:48:19 :) Feb 26 16:48:33 yeah it was thursday/friday morning i believe Feb 26 16:48:56 hmm maybe I was Feb 26 16:48:58 hay Adora Feb 26 16:51:21 artitumis, 2.1? Feb 26 16:51:21 ugh. airave is has a gps signal but the damn system light is blinking. Feb 26 16:51:34 PatrickC_Pre: i doctored down to 1.4.5 to try and get it activated. Feb 26 16:51:46 what's not working? Feb 26 16:52:00 it's trying to go through hands free activation. Feb 26 16:52:23 we went in and made sure the directory number and msid set, set them, and it keeps trying to go through hands free activation. Feb 26 16:52:49 tech support woman claims it was trying to provision the data connection but can't with less than three bars of service. Feb 26 16:53:08 which i have 1 since the airave is acting up. Feb 26 16:53:46 there it goes! Feb 26 16:54:39 there what goes? airave? Feb 26 16:54:47 yes Feb 26 16:54:53 it was being hella picky today. Feb 26 16:54:55 yay Feb 26 16:55:20 how do you have it set up? modem, airave, wifi? Feb 26 16:55:25 or modem, wifi, airave? Feb 26 16:55:34 modem, router, airave. Feb 26 16:55:47 I heard they don't like that Feb 26 16:55:50 Can anyone help talk me through setting up a cross-compile makefile similar to what we have for linphone? Feb 26 16:56:01 I am guessing I have to wrestle with autotools? Feb 26 16:56:02 my airave doesn't have but one ethernet port. not a way to go from the modem to the airave to the router. Feb 26 16:56:06 I think they said it should be "modem, airave, router" Feb 26 16:56:16 ahh ok Feb 26 16:56:17 PatrickC_Pre: no way to do that... Feb 26 16:56:36 PatrickC_Pre: does your airave have two ethernet ports on it? Feb 26 16:56:39 what color is your airave? Feb 26 16:56:42 white Feb 26 16:56:58 I have 2 LAN ports yea Feb 26 16:57:09 does yours have EV coverage? Feb 26 16:57:16 full Feb 26 16:57:23 what the hell. mine is only 1x Feb 26 16:57:54 is that all your airave offers? or what you have now? Feb 26 16:58:01 all it offers. Feb 26 16:58:11 doesn't matter for me since my pre has wifi but wifey has a pixi. Feb 26 16:58:12 how old? Feb 26 16:58:23 almost two years i think. Feb 26 16:58:35 ahh, mines a few months Feb 26 17:00:38 how is everyone liking 2.1? Feb 26 17:01:00 PatrickC_Pre: is this what your airave lookes like? http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/rumor-mill-sprints-ev-do-femtocells-begin-shipping/2010-08-20 Feb 26 17:01:43 looks like it Feb 26 17:01:51 I'll give you a sprint link to mine Feb 26 17:02:46 mine: http://support.sprint.com/support/device/Sprint/AIRAVE_by_Sprint-dvc1230001prd/?id16=airave Feb 26 17:04:48 mine: http://support.sprint.com/support/device/Sprint/AIRAVEreg_Access_Point-dvc1230002prd Feb 26 17:05:45 did you pay for it and service or did customer retention comp it for you? Feb 26 17:06:43 I believe it was free :p Feb 26 17:06:47 my dad got it Feb 26 17:06:54 hay josef_b Feb 26 17:07:10 what is the ## code to check your data settings? Feb 26 17:07:38 idk Feb 26 17:07:46 yo Feb 26 17:07:46 my dad set it all up Feb 26 17:07:53 nah on the pre Feb 26 17:08:07 the Pre is dev device, I use a Pixi Feb 26 17:08:15 lemme check Feb 26 17:08:18 it's the same. Feb 26 17:08:44 na, vzw Pre+/sprint Pixi- Feb 26 17:08:52 and its "##786#" Feb 26 17:09:11 all the ## codes are the same for each phone and provider. just use on # for gsm Feb 26 17:09:37 that's the revers logistics support. there is one to look at all the data settings. Feb 26 17:09:45 cool, it is the same Feb 26 17:10:03 not sure Feb 26 17:11:52 what's your code? Feb 26 17:13:00 hello people Feb 26 17:14:02 code for what? Feb 26 17:14:09 anyone here running the new Pixi Warthog? Feb 26 17:14:27 the one to look at all the data settings Feb 26 17:14:36 can't find it right now. Feb 26 17:14:39 still looking. Feb 26 17:14:43 ok Feb 26 17:14:54 849 MHz!!! Feb 26 17:14:56 the data settings aren't coming up in 786 for me. are they for you? Feb 26 17:15:12 by data settings you mean? lol Feb 26 17:16:08 can someone get a Pixi meta-doctor working? please :) Feb 26 17:16:54 PatrickC_Pre: dropped the phone, battery popped out. doh~! Feb 26 17:17:01 man Feb 26 17:17:09 how'd the back come off Feb 26 17:17:20 came off when i dropped it. Feb 26 17:17:53 never had that happen, and I've had my pre for like 4-5 months Feb 26 17:18:02 it hit just right i guess. Feb 26 17:18:03 I want a dev Pre2 :'( Feb 26 17:18:10 guess so.. Feb 26 17:18:10 i do too Feb 26 17:18:32 what apps you working on? Feb 26 17:18:48 and you working SDK or Ares? Feb 26 17:18:59 i'm not working on anything right now. Feb 26 17:19:06 why not? Feb 26 17:19:13 PatrickC_Pre: are you @ scale by chance? Feb 26 17:19:28 its fun! (especially if sugardave is helping :p) Feb 26 17:19:38 and cryptk, nope, wish I was :( Feb 26 17:20:08 are you? Feb 26 17:20:15 I happen to know that HP brought 6 of them to give away Feb 26 17:20:30 what?! Feb 26 17:20:48 I am at scale, yes Feb 26 17:20:54 how fast can I get there from Nashville?! by F18 if I have to :) Feb 26 17:20:56 man Feb 26 17:21:02 wanna get one for me :) Feb 26 17:21:09 it is in LA Feb 26 17:21:14 hmmm Feb 26 17:21:34 funny you mention the F18. I'm stationed on a Air Station that has them. Feb 26 17:21:36 why would I ask HP for free press when I have free press also Feb 26 17:22:22 wanna pick me up in nashville artitumis? Feb 26 17:23:04 PatrickC_Pre: I can't fly them, dood, or I would. Feb 26 17:23:27 well, you /can/ fly them... Feb 26 17:23:34 its just not really legal :p Feb 26 17:23:51 can't fly them as in i would crash the shit out of it, bro Feb 26 17:24:07 anyway, I gotta get back to the WOSI booth... no signal in there Feb 26 17:24:09 lol true Feb 26 17:24:10 later Feb 26 17:24:37 cya cryptk Feb 26 17:25:25 good afternoon Feb 26 17:25:35 afternoon dumbledore Feb 26 17:26:04 did you flash 2.1 on your pre yet? Feb 26 17:27:03 well. kinda... Feb 26 17:27:24 preware isnt working right Feb 26 17:27:36 what's not working Robi_ Feb 26 17:29:20 its greyed out and launched software manager Feb 26 17:29:57 Okay, I just looked in the debug menu and it saisy AN/AAA authentication failed. I wonder if that is my problem. Feb 26 17:30:39 hola! Feb 26 17:30:59 internals-scale: bonjour Feb 26 17:31:18 hay internals-scale! Feb 26 17:31:25 cant even orange-tap to uninstall it Feb 26 17:32:10 palm install -r Feb 26 17:32:59 robi_ you have the SDK installed, right Feb 26 17:35:32 not sure if I still do Feb 26 17:35:38 * internals-scale is getting ustream setup Feb 26 17:36:11 install the SDK, and run the emulator, then you can un-install safely (should be able to) Feb 26 17:36:51 i am novacom'd in Feb 26 17:37:15 I don't know how to do it via novacom, I only know via command Feb 26 17:37:28 s/command/command line Feb 26 17:41:01 robi_ have you installed the sdk yet? Feb 26 17:41:37 no i wont be doing that Feb 26 17:41:47 why not? Feb 26 17:42:03 its huge and i dont want it Feb 26 17:42:09 its really easy to uninstall from command line Feb 26 17:42:30 how do you use webosQI? Feb 26 17:42:34 Robi_: is webos quick install detecting your phone? Feb 26 17:44:45 josef_b is in the HOUSE!! Feb 26 17:44:55 0_o Feb 26 17:44:58 yep Feb 26 17:45:00 sup josef_b Feb 26 17:45:05 yo Feb 26 17:45:13 hows 2.1 treatin ya Feb 26 17:45:16 josef_b how's 1.4.5? Feb 26 17:45:20 ;o Feb 26 17:45:23 he went back to 1.4.5 I believe Feb 26 17:45:24 dumbledore: dont know yet, havent gotten the new one Feb 26 17:45:26 i went back to 1.4.5 -_- Feb 26 17:45:45 Robi_: a new pre? Feb 26 17:45:46 robi_ does the old one see your phone? Feb 26 17:45:48 i love 2.1 but i don't know i like 1.4.5 more patches for now Feb 26 17:45:50 oh Feb 26 17:45:50 nvm Feb 26 17:46:02 i preobably will go back when 2.1 has more patches / kernel etc Feb 26 17:46:14 Josef_B: yeah same reason why im on 1.4.5 right now :3 Feb 26 17:46:14 s/preobably/probablly Feb 26 17:46:32 I'm on both at the same time! Feb 26 17:46:33 i need taht video camera light. its the whole reason why i got the pre :D Feb 26 17:46:36 no really Feb 26 17:46:54 I run 2.1 and 1.4.5 Feb 26 17:47:11 pre-'s are pretty cheap on ebay. i won two for under $20 combine. Feb 26 17:47:21 woww Feb 26 17:47:30 wanna give me one? Feb 26 17:47:34 lol sure Feb 26 17:47:38 ok Feb 26 17:47:44 free right? lol Feb 26 17:47:47 i just bought the other one for the comms board Feb 26 17:47:53 pay shipping :P Feb 26 17:48:19 naa shipping is to expensive Feb 26 17:48:24 lol Feb 26 17:48:26 could you pay that to ;) Feb 26 17:48:30 2.1 breathed life back into pre - and pre + eh ? Feb 26 17:48:34 if i had a job then yea :P Feb 26 17:48:57 I don't have job either :p Feb 26 17:49:07 but apps, and I'm not very good at that job Feb 26 17:49:17 well, i give up on getting the dev phone activated for a palm profile. ugh. Feb 26 17:49:43 i figured out something really really really really odd with the pre's last night Feb 26 17:49:46 gonna flash 2.1 back to dev phone and skill activation. Feb 26 17:49:55 er skip Feb 26 17:49:55 what? Feb 26 17:50:16 the comms board wasn't bad at all.. it was the board behind the screen that was causing me to get poor wifi Feb 26 17:50:41 still drops back to 1x tho :/ Feb 26 17:50:45 dumbledore did the ebay guy ever ship you the phone ? Feb 26 17:50:48 and also causing you to void your warranty Feb 26 17:50:58 Josef_B: yeah :P Feb 26 17:51:02 i got both of them Feb 26 17:51:03 oh wow Feb 26 17:51:19 and you switched comm bordes dumbledore ? Feb 26 17:51:19 lol PatrickC_Pre the phoes were already out of warranty :P Feb 26 17:51:23 yea Feb 26 17:51:37 still got poor wifi till i switched out the board with the flash memory Feb 26 17:51:45 nice Feb 26 17:52:00 what kinda frakenPhone? Pre2 or Pre+ Feb 26 17:52:30 lol its not really a frackenpre. both were pre - :P Feb 26 17:53:00 frankenpre* Feb 26 17:53:08 bbl Feb 26 17:53:15 k later Feb 26 17:53:19 just got onto 2.1 Feb 26 17:53:23 like it so far Feb 26 17:53:25 I'll be on the Pixi (PatrickC_Pixi) if needed Feb 26 17:53:36 ok Feb 26 17:53:53 im only going back to 2.1 if a flashlight patch is made Feb 26 17:54:12 @dumbledore sconix did it i think Feb 26 17:54:27 seb_or_sam, no, thats for 2.0.1 Feb 26 17:54:38 dumbledore Oh damn Feb 26 17:54:42 wow... Feb 26 17:54:50 i meant scoutcamper Feb 26 17:54:52 sorry Feb 26 17:54:57 lol Feb 26 17:55:01 no prob Feb 26 17:55:10 scoutcamper: you made the patch? Feb 26 17:55:13 hay Feb 26 17:55:22 sup PatrickC_Pixi Feb 26 17:55:28 dumbledore, no, no, no, sconix made it Feb 26 17:55:29 nm Feb 26 17:55:31 oh lol Feb 26 17:55:46 man i miss 1 GHz :( Feb 26 17:55:49 dumbledore, but i tried it on my VZW Pre+on 2.1, didnt work Feb 26 17:55:59 I want 1.4 stock Feb 26 17:56:04 oh... Feb 26 17:56:20 PatrickC_Pixi: The pixi runs quite well on 800mhz Feb 26 17:56:29 I will release the 2.1 version of my device menu patch (with flashlight) support as soon as there is a 2.1 for pre2 Feb 26 17:56:39 I need to properly test it before putting it out :) Feb 26 17:56:50 sconix I'll test it for you ;) Feb 26 17:56:53 ha Feb 26 17:57:30 sconix, I can test Feb 26 17:57:32 seb_or_sam @ 1ghz wasn't your battery dying .. or did you just turn off data and used wifi ? Feb 26 17:57:35 it always much easier to test it myself but if its starts looking that 2.1 for pre2 is taking more than a week, I think I will let someone else do the testing Feb 26 17:57:50 dumbledore, try 849MHz Feb 26 17:58:06 Josef_B: Battery on the Pre sucks no matter what you do. I carry 2 batteries. Feb 26 17:58:13 :D Feb 26 17:58:14 sconix, like me? Feb 26 17:58:31 sconix: Again, I'm always up for testing. Feb 26 17:58:33 i noticed on 2.1 seb_or_sam that with no data turned on and no wifi that the battery actually last longer Feb 26 17:58:41 MS 2.0 alpha should be ready on Monday and then I get back to the patches so I will call test help on the forum if theres still no 2.1 out during next week Feb 26 17:58:49 Josef_B: I can see that Feb 26 17:59:04 sconix sounds good Feb 26 17:59:22 Josef_B: I bet they rewrote the drivers and all, given the switch from Java Feb 26 17:59:48 sconix, MS? Feb 26 17:59:53 preware installer .jar worked to fix the ghosting problem Feb 26 17:59:55 Mode Switcher Feb 26 18:00:02 ahh, ok :D Feb 26 18:00:04 ok robi_ Feb 26 18:00:08 yep Feb 26 18:00:13 MS is awesome! Feb 26 18:00:26 cant wait for flashlight patch to be back :D Feb 26 18:00:29 no MS 2.0 is awesome ;) Feb 26 18:00:38 sconix Can't wait! Feb 26 18:00:43 I hated MS 1.x since it had few hacks in the code ;) Feb 26 18:00:47 sconix what is MS ? Feb 26 18:00:57 Josef_B: Mode Switcher Feb 26 18:00:57 Mode Switvher Feb 26 18:01:00 oh Feb 26 18:01:03 Josef_B, Mode Switcher, the best app ever! :D Feb 26 18:01:06 yea Feb 26 18:01:13 what does it do really Feb 26 18:01:14 best app ever is an understatement Feb 26 18:01:19 hi internals-scale Feb 26 18:01:23 i went back to 1.4.5 and downloaded mode-switcher and advnaced something else for my launcher Feb 26 18:01:25 dumbledore, it does everything and more Feb 26 18:01:35 can it give me a hand job Feb 26 18:01:42 0_o Feb 26 18:01:46 ... Feb 26 18:01:46 dumbledore: TMI ;P Feb 26 18:01:48 dumbledore there is not a patch for that Feb 26 18:01:49 :3 Feb 26 18:01:54 :D Feb 26 18:01:59 wow Feb 26 18:02:09 just........ ww Feb 26 18:02:13 s/ww/wow Feb 26 18:02:38 dumbledore, really, just as SCALE shows up, the people at SCALE could see that Feb 26 18:02:42 irc ftw Feb 26 18:02:53 wat Feb 26 18:02:55 people at scale can see this as well Feb 26 18:03:03 * dumbledore is away: shame... Feb 26 18:03:26 man i can't work at home .. baby is crying all the time .. other kids getting spanked by the grandparents .. im upstairs and i hear everything .. my customers are like do you work from home Feb 26 18:03:29 i hear a baby crying Feb 26 18:03:47 im like no .. today is bring your kid to work dayt Feb 26 18:03:50 s/dayt/day Feb 26 18:07:53 we scared dumblrdore away Feb 26 18:08:02 lolz Feb 26 18:08:55 so what's the story with custom kernels on 2.1? Feb 26 18:09:12 non-existent untill we have the source code Feb 26 18:09:18 meta-doctor Feb 26 18:09:18 seb_or_sam dunno .. i heard they haven't rleased the source code Feb 26 18:09:27 http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html - when it shows up there Feb 26 18:09:38 Josef_b: Ah Feb 26 18:10:01 thanks guys Feb 26 18:10:35 scoutcamper you would think since o2/germany (wherever that it) since they released webos 2.1 you would think they would put the source out Feb 26 18:11:12 scoutcamper i think palm is refusing to release it because they didn't want legacy devices .. so they are trying to stay firm/true to there word Feb 26 18:11:18 o2 probably slipped Feb 26 18:11:36 Josef_B, you would think that we would have the 2.0SDK not undr NDA by now ... Feb 26 18:11:42 yes Feb 26 18:11:57 source code is release 2 weeks after update? Feb 26 18:12:03 i think sdk was for webos sdk 2.0 .. 2.1 is out .. also pre2's don't have 2.1 so what is the deal Feb 26 18:12:09 usually? at least rwhitby says so Feb 26 18:12:10 s/sdk/NDA Feb 26 18:12:45 2.x SDK is still NDA, but Palm already said, it's more a question of organisation, I guess it will released soon Feb 26 18:17:36 it needs to become public already Feb 26 18:18:26 Hi all Feb 26 18:18:45 hi NuttyBunny Feb 26 18:19:17 anyone running classic on 1.4.5 ? Feb 26 18:19:27 hay nuttybunny Feb 26 18:21:00 nvm .. 2.0 came out and there not support it anymore Feb 26 18:22:35 bbl Feb 26 18:23:01 sconix i heard your name on youtube many times :P Feb 26 18:23:12 sconix something about a today screen app for webos right ? Feb 26 18:25:23 Josef_B: maybe you mean today menu patch? I only have MS as a app, and then bunch of advanced system patches :) Feb 26 18:25:28 yea that Feb 26 18:26:08 well its always nice that people like my stuff :) Feb 26 18:26:16 :D Feb 26 18:31:10 mode switcher is flat out awesome Feb 26 18:31:16 indeed it is! Feb 26 18:31:29 by the way, random people walking by at scale can see all of you Feb 26 18:31:50 anyone know of a way to grab ipk's off the beta feeds? Feb 26 18:31:57 yes Feb 26 18:31:59 go to the feed itself Feb 26 18:32:04 like the url / link Feb 26 18:32:07 and you see ipks in there Feb 26 18:32:40 so take facebook for example. Feb 26 18:32:41 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.palm.app.facebook.beta Feb 26 18:32:44 what would you do there? Feb 26 18:33:38 you on pre pixi ? Feb 26 18:33:43 pre Feb 26 18:34:07 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/ Feb 26 18:35:03 how does one get access to the alpha version of linphone? Feb 26 18:36:28 Josef_B: So how does that enable me to grab the IPK off the catelog? Feb 26 18:36:32 catalog* ugh. Feb 26 18:37:36 oh .. artitumis all that is is the testing feed for webos-internals .. and the ipks that it loads Feb 26 18:37:44 as far as app catalog ipks artitumis i don't know Feb 26 18:37:46 0_o Feb 26 18:37:48 my bad Feb 26 18:38:08 Hrm. I would like to have the Facebook beta app on my dev device but i don't have app cat access on it. Feb 26 18:38:19 WAHAHAHAHAHA Feb 26 18:38:34 halfhalo: ? Feb 26 18:38:53 hola! Jack87 Here! Feb 26 18:39:37 tis crowded here Feb 26 18:40:30 <<< cry[tk Feb 26 18:40:34 if I could spell Feb 26 18:40:38 cryptk Feb 26 18:40:53 * idw2k waves to the random Scale crowd Feb 26 18:41:50 I'm having trouble installing the metadoctor on OSX 10.6, can somebody help me troubleshoot? Feb 26 18:43:02 I'm following the guidelines on the webos-internals wiki, and I get an error message once I enter in step 4 Feb 26 18:43:21 hey all, is it normal for profile restore on 2.1.0 to take 10+ minutes? (I did clean up my backup by turning it off while the phone was on 1.4.5) Feb 26 18:44:04 here is the error message: Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: Image error: /opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib already exists and does not belong to a registered port. Unable to activate port readline. Use 'port -f activate readline' to force the activation. Feb 26 18:44:04 Error: Failed to install readline Feb 26 18:44:05 Log for readline is at: /opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_devel_readline/main.log Feb 26 18:44:05 Error: The following dependencies were not installed: python27 readline sqlite3 rsync popt Feb 26 18:44:06 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing. Feb 26 18:44:06 To report a bug, see Feb 26 18:44:06 macintosh:~ Jmarlow$ Feb 26 18:44:22 any clue as to what that means? Feb 26 18:44:38 Jmarlow, it seems to mean that your system is messed up Feb 26 18:44:48 it means you need to install those programs most likely Feb 26 18:44:58 Jmarlow, what is step 4? (refresh my memory) Feb 26 18:45:11 Install git:sudo port install git-core Feb 26 18:45:29 Jmarlow, iow, you might have another package that installs the same file as readline library Feb 26 18:45:39 hmm Feb 26 18:45:42 hi, I'm trying to place a script in /etc/network/if-up.d that should sleep 20 seconds and then perform some wpa action, but it does not work. the sleep part is not executed, a simple touch /tmp/test runs fine. are there restrictions for these scripts? Feb 26 18:45:57 I installed Xcode, and then macports, then followed all the steps Feb 26 18:46:20 so I don't know why I'm having these issues Feb 26 18:47:25 yep, package conflict Feb 26 18:48:23 linphone ? anyone? Feb 26 18:48:31 ah, thanks you Feb 26 18:48:34 *thank you Feb 26 18:49:11 I feel woefully illiterate with regards to this, how do I fix the conflict. Sorry if that's a stupid question! Feb 26 18:52:32 mawulil, you'll want Taibaud (sp?) or rwhitby Feb 26 18:53:29 ragingmind, thanks Feb 26 18:56:59 sorry, super busy at the scape9X BOOTH Feb 26 18:57:04 eeew. cap lock there Feb 26 19:02:33 I uninstalled and reinstalled macports...that's really the only think besides XCode that I've downloaded, yet I'm still getting the error message? What would the package conflict be, and what can I do to fix it? Feb 26 19:16:10 i can't wait for an overclocking kernel for the sprint with 2.1.0, it's going to be amazing heh Feb 26 19:17:29 you have very high expectations! Feb 26 19:22:13 The problem with the original Pre is not the speed but the memory constraints :( Even with compcache things will get messy :S Feb 26 19:30:42 here's a question for everyone Feb 26 19:30:51 if I have created my custom 2.1 webosDR Feb 26 19:30:55 can I import that to a windows box, Feb 26 19:30:57 run it Feb 26 19:31:05 then plug my phone back into my ubuntu for final steps Feb 26 19:31:07 ? Feb 26 19:34:04 I tried running my 2.1 webos doctor in windows 7 and it failed at 52% every time Feb 26 19:34:05 played with it in ubuntu vm and got it to work Feb 26 19:34:22 I can't even install metadoctor on OSX Feb 26 19:35:07 spy2520: I'm using ubunt and anytime I run the webosDR and get to "plug in your device with usb" after I connect I can't get a "next" button Feb 26 19:35:21 izkeepsitreal your metadoctor is a java file .. you can put it on your windows machine and run it no problem Feb 26 19:35:30 success :) Feb 26 19:35:32 good to hear Feb 26 19:35:48 why would you plug it into ubuntu box for final Feb 26 19:35:54 the metadoctor is a metadoctor Feb 26 19:35:58 isn't there a step 5? Feb 26 19:36:04 that requires you to do something in terminal Feb 26 19:36:08 what guide you following izkeepsitreal ? Feb 26 19:36:26 step five is unmasq'ing so that preware knows you're running 2.1 and you install 2.1 pataches. Feb 26 19:36:37 oh your doing the script ? Feb 26 19:36:42 yes Feb 26 19:36:44 script Feb 26 19:36:54 izkeepsitreal i never did script .. im back on 1.4.5 sorry Feb 26 19:37:13 i've flashed between 1.4.5 and 2.1 many times over the last three days. pretty much a pro at it now Feb 26 19:37:20 ok Feb 26 19:37:22 cheers Feb 26 19:38:01 izkeepsitreal: what's the problem you're having again? Feb 26 19:38:17 I had the same problem in ubuntu that you had Feb 26 19:38:22 well I have a virtual box with ubuntu Feb 26 19:38:30 I've complied the webosdr with script Feb 26 19:38:44 go to "plug in" my phone and it isn't' giving me the option to click "next" Feb 26 19:38:49 izkeepsitreal, on linux you have to install novacomd Feb 26 19:38:54 did that Feb 26 19:39:00 not sure if its running Feb 26 19:39:06 or how to get it running Feb 26 19:39:09 I paused the vm at 4%. disconnected the phone. pulled battery, put battery back in. plugged phone in, unpaused vm and it worked fine Feb 26 19:39:10 for some reason at 4% the phone disconnects and I guess the vm times out the connection before the phone can reconnect Feb 26 19:39:14 'ps zx | grep nova' shows it running? Feb 26 19:39:35 spy2520: that happen to me a couple of times. i just started it over again until it went through. Feb 26 19:39:58 RagingMind: I get pts/0 0:00 grep --color=auto Nova Feb 26 19:39:59 in red Feb 26 19:40:02 (nova in red) Feb 26 19:40:30 I've had that same problem Feb 26 19:40:30 unless your problem is it never connects to begin with... Feb 26 19:40:32 Nope it's not running Feb 26 19:40:43 izkeepsitreal, what linux are you running this on? Feb 26 19:40:58 ubuntu 10.10 Feb 26 19:41:00 in virutal box Feb 26 19:41:03 I think you have to turn off the pre, and then hold the volume button when you're turning it on, until the USB icon flashes on the screen Feb 26 19:41:16 on a win7 machine Feb 26 19:41:39 izkeepsitreal, try restarting your virtual machine Feb 26 19:41:44 ok Feb 26 19:41:44 sec Feb 26 19:42:05 Jmarlow, that's only if you need recovery mode, he doesn't even have the daemon running so recovery mode wouldn't do anything Feb 26 19:42:06 should novacom 'auto start' or do I need to 'start' it when ubunt reboots? Feb 26 19:42:11 oh, okay Feb 26 19:42:29 rebooting Feb 26 19:43:01 Anyone have any idea why my Pre would always be on 1x roaming? Feb 26 19:43:02 I asked earlier for help installing the metadoctor on OSX 10.6, would it be possible for one of you to help me troubleshoot? Feb 26 19:43:12 I didn't change anything or install any patches --- it just started one day while I was travelling. Feb 26 19:43:20 Jmarlow: what instructions are you following ? Feb 26 19:43:26 the ones here: Feb 26 19:43:27 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor#Mac_OS_X_10.6 Feb 26 19:43:34 I can get up to step 3 Feb 26 19:43:38 but then I enter step 4 Feb 26 19:43:40 anyone notice a problem with syncing gcontacts? Feb 26 19:43:47 just about up... Feb 26 19:43:52 and I get this error message: Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: Image error: /opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib already exists and does not belong to a registered port. Unable to activate port readline. Use 'port -f activate readline' to force the activation. Feb 26 19:43:52 Error: Failed to install readline Feb 26 19:43:52 Log for readline is at: /opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_devel_readline/main.log Feb 26 19:43:53 Error: The following dependencies were not installed: python27 readline sqlite3 rsync popt Feb 26 19:43:53 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing. Feb 26 19:43:53 To report a bug, see Feb 26 19:43:53 macintosh:~ Jmarlow$ Feb 26 19:43:55 virtual box laggs the hell outa ubuntu Feb 26 19:44:06 I have Xcode installed, aswell as macports Feb 26 19:44:28 0_o or just parition and install windows on another parition .. give it like 10 gigs Feb 26 19:44:30 :D Feb 26 19:44:31 Jmarlow: strange, but have you tried sudo port -f activate readline ? Feb 26 19:44:37 yes Feb 26 19:44:40 I'll try it again Feb 26 19:44:40 izkeepsitreal, it should auto start Feb 26 19:44:42 and what does that tell you ? Feb 26 19:44:52 desktop just showed up Feb 26 19:44:54 I'm on debian so I have to start it manually every time (working on a fix for that) Feb 26 19:44:57 RagingMind: should I run the installer? Feb 26 19:45:08 starting it manually is easy enough though, just not as convenient Feb 26 19:45:09 or see in term if its running Feb 26 19:45:21 its easy I guess if you know the syntax :) Feb 26 19:45:23 what's weird is that libreadline is installed in that location .. i wonder what put it there Feb 26 19:45:23 * izkeepsitreal is newbie to linux Feb 26 19:45:40 izkeepsitreal, check if it's running with that ps command Feb 26 19:45:43 bpaladino: I get this when I put that command in Feb 26 19:45:44 Error: Insufficient privileges to write to MacPorts install prefix. Feb 26 19:45:44 macintosh:~ Jmarlow$ Feb 26 19:45:47 I'm assuming you DID, install it, right? Feb 26 19:45:53 you need to use sudo Feb 26 19:46:17 what do I need to do to use it? Feb 26 19:46:30 type sudo port -f activate libreadline Feb 26 19:46:35 ok Feb 26 19:46:52 sorry the command is ps zx | grep nova? Feb 26 19:47:17 bpadalino: I got this when I did that: Error: port activate failed: Registry error: No port of libreadline installed. Feb 26 19:47:21 RagingMind: sorry the command is ps zx | grep nova? Feb 26 19:48:00 Jmarlow: how did that dylib get to that location - do you have something like homebrew installed or anything ? Feb 26 19:48:02 izkeepsitreal, sorry. I keep getting distracted Feb 26 19:48:13 it's 'ps ax | grep nova' Feb 26 19:48:25 RagingMind: does it matter which dir I'm in? Feb 26 19:48:38 ok tha tone work Feb 26 19:48:42 its in red again Feb 26 19:48:48 'dpkg -l | grep palm' will tell you if novacom is installed Feb 26 19:48:53 bpadalino:No, I have a vanilla OSX installation...I'm not well versed in code, so I have nothing that would have switched that Feb 26 19:49:01 izkeepsitreal, neither command depends on directory Feb 26 19:49:04 strange Feb 26 19:49:10 izkeepsitreal, what does ps list? Feb 26 19:49:16 greetings from scale9x Feb 26 19:49:24 RagingMind: after doing the dpkg -l | grep Palm I got Feb 26 19:49:31 ii palm-nova 1.0.56 Feb 26 19:49:36 palm is red Feb 26 19:50:02 ps lists 1012 ? ssl 0:00 /opt/palm/novaom/novacomd Feb 26 19:50:07 Bpadalino: thanks so much for your help, do you know if there's anything I cna do, or is it just a lost cause? Feb 26 19:50:25 and 1431 pts/o s+ 0:00 grep --color=auto nova Feb 26 19:50:26 in red Feb 26 19:50:41 Jmarlow: you can try to move that readline dylib it's complaining about to a .old or something and see if the install goes better ? Feb 26 19:51:16 izkeepsitreal, linux is case sensitive, so avoid capitalizing stuff unless it's specified that way Feb 26 19:51:30 ok Feb 26 19:51:32 sudo mv /opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib /opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib.old Feb 26 19:51:34 based on those info Feb 26 19:51:34 then try again Feb 26 19:51:37 what should I do now? :?) Feb 26 19:51:41 doesn't look like novacom is running Feb 26 19:51:43 I feel really dumb saying this, but I have NO idea what that means. Maybe that's a sign that I shouldn't be trying to update my Pre+ to 2.1, Feb 26 19:51:45 oh, okay Feb 26 19:51:46 that one that says '/opt/palm/novaom/novacomd' proves that it's running now Feb 26 19:51:47 thanks! Feb 26 19:51:49 so you should be good Feb 26 19:51:50 oh Feb 26 19:51:51 ok that's good Feb 26 19:51:55 so run the .jar ? Feb 26 19:52:00 yup Feb 26 19:52:26 bpadalino: Do step 4 again now? Feb 26 19:52:29 sure Feb 26 19:52:42 RagingMind: still no "next" Feb 26 19:53:05 maybe the virutal desktop isn't 'seeing' the usb/palm ?? Feb 26 19:53:15 last time I connected it I got some kinda Gnome PDA thing Feb 26 19:53:23 izkeepsitreal, okay, so we have the ubuntu working now :) Feb 26 19:53:25 okay, it's building stuff, which I didn't get before Feb 26 19:53:26 need to head back into windows. talk to y'all later. Feb 26 19:53:37 neat Feb 26 19:53:38 izkeepsitreal, this is inside a virtualbox? Feb 26 19:53:42 RagingMind: yes Feb 26 19:53:52 bpadalino: Thanks so much, you've been über helpful! Feb 26 19:53:54 worst cast scenari though Feb 26 19:53:58 umlauts! Feb 26 19:53:59 I can just connet this virutal box to my ftp Feb 26 19:54:03 transfer over the .jar Feb 26 19:54:06 install it on windows box Feb 26 19:54:18 ? Feb 26 19:54:23 less you think you can get the virutal box going :p Feb 26 19:55:03 izkeepsitreal, did you use the virtualbox controls to pass the phone to ubuntu? Feb 26 19:55:22 well there's a 'devices' in virutal box Feb 26 19:55:25 that has USB Feb 26 19:55:30 and in there a "Palm pre" is listed Feb 26 19:55:43 "palm inc. pre" Feb 26 19:55:52 [0316] Feb 26 19:56:00 I forget the gui for that... there a check box or something? Feb 26 19:56:07 no check box Feb 26 19:56:12 just like tab/menu Feb 26 19:56:17 and when you click on it? Feb 26 19:56:18 shows what's connected via virutal box Feb 26 19:56:20 when I click it Feb 26 19:56:22 I get an error Feb 26 19:56:33 failed to attach Feb 26 19:56:35 might be better to transfer the jar file to windows and run it there Feb 26 19:56:40 usb device to the virtual machine ub Feb 26 19:56:43 ok Feb 26 19:56:45 thought so :) Feb 26 19:56:50 thanks for the assitance though Feb 26 19:56:51 appreciated Feb 26 19:57:02 VB has a shared folder thing you could try, or transfer it some other way Feb 26 19:58:35 ah yes Feb 26 19:58:40 need to install "guest addition" Feb 26 19:58:44 wow a lot of work :) Feb 26 19:58:51 I should of just blown out my win box Feb 26 19:58:53 heh Feb 26 19:58:55 and installed ubuntu Feb 26 19:58:56 :p Feb 26 19:58:58 I just keep linux installed ;) Feb 26 20:00:39 RagingMind: do you know how after I've created a "shared folder" where in ubuntu I would go to open it? Feb 26 20:00:47 what's linux version of explorer :P Feb 26 20:02:09 hummm Feb 26 20:02:17 doesn't look like the "network' functionality of ubuntu is working here.. Feb 26 20:02:21 I can go online Feb 26 20:03:56 ok well this sucks. Feb 26 20:03:57 that's way out of the scope of here, heh. depends on how you have your virtualbox and ubuntu set up... no clear answer :( Feb 26 20:04:05 I can't get a usb drive Feb 26 20:04:13 to be recgonized Feb 26 20:04:23 I can't get the "network" to mount my widnnows network Feb 26 20:04:33 I tried to connect to a server and trnasfer via FTP but that dosnt seem to be working Feb 26 20:04:43 a USB drive you'd have to add from that devices list Feb 26 20:04:45 I think the virtual box environment is messing it up Feb 26 20:04:53 RagingMind: in Virutal box or ubuntu? Feb 26 20:06:43 moo Feb 26 20:07:36 hummm this 'connect to server' doesn't give me a password option Feb 26 20:07:43 only server/port/folder/username Feb 26 20:07:46 grrr. Feb 26 20:08:13 izkeepsitreal, it'll ask for a password if it needs one when it connects Feb 26 20:08:37 I suggest looking in the virtualbox wiki for help with the USB drive Feb 26 20:09:09 ya Feb 26 20:09:27 I'm not sure if that 'connnect to server' is functional in the virtual environment I have Feb 26 20:09:45 doesn't show me attempting to connect to my ftp box and after I click on "connect" it just disapears and then comes bak after a fwe mins with error Feb 26 20:09:47 so weird. Feb 26 20:10:21 colors!!!! Feb 26 20:11:38 One thing to note is that if the novacom drivers aren't configured properly in windows, the virtual box won't work either. Feb 26 20:14:34 http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-VirtualBox-USB-Support-111715.shtml Feb 26 20:14:38 hpefully that does it Feb 26 20:20:54 what's the trick to getting the keyboard bezel back into place? Feb 26 20:22:00 ok Feb 26 20:22:38 for a manual back up /usr/palm/applications and /var/usr/palm/applications is safe to backup to my computer manually ? and if something happens i can put them back and im good ? Feb 26 20:24:34 well of course not bundeled ones Feb 26 20:24:40 just downloaded apps correct ? Feb 26 20:27:01 i fixed the 1x fall back issue :D Feb 26 20:27:06 how dumbledore Feb 26 20:27:17 swapped comm boards again Feb 26 20:27:29 another pre ? Feb 26 20:27:33 now i get full wifi and evdo signal Feb 26 20:27:33 yeah Feb 26 20:27:33 i thought you only won 1 pre Feb 26 20:27:41 i did, but i won 2 other auctions :D Feb 26 20:27:46 0_o Feb 26 20:27:55 so it was a bad comm on both pre's Feb 26 20:28:17 yeah Feb 26 20:28:35 but now the two other pre's are in pieces Feb 26 20:28:39 lost all the screws :3 Feb 26 20:29:10 crazy i got a wierd situation .. im looking on webos-internals site http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Applications_Bundled_on_the_Pre .. and it says for my downloaded applications they should be in /var/usr/palm/applications .. im looking in there andi don't see anything Feb 26 20:29:28 im wondering if they are not there cause i just went back to 1.4.5 and i got them from my palm profile ? Feb 26 20:29:31 using internals? Feb 26 20:29:40 internalz* Feb 26 20:29:47 novaterm Feb 26 20:30:05 ok Feb 26 20:30:13 and you're wanting to backup the games? Feb 26 20:30:20 no Feb 26 20:30:23 just to see where my apps are Feb 26 20:30:32 oh Feb 26 20:30:33 i know where the bundeled apps are Feb 26 20:32:30 i'll install internalz just now and let you know where it is Feb 26 20:32:40 i think i found it Feb 26 20:32:43 im testing to see if the evdo is really fixed Feb 26 20:32:46 great :D Feb 26 20:33:31 they need to update the #webos-internals site Feb 26 20:33:45 with what Feb 26 20:33:53 Josef_B, look at /usr/palm/applications directly, that's where they are (not inside /var) Feb 26 20:33:58 its in /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm Feb 26 20:34:02 nope Feb 26 20:34:06 there some where else Feb 26 20:34:12 maybe not then :) Feb 26 20:34:17 ./media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm Feb 26 20:34:43 i wish there was a pre version of orb Feb 26 20:35:00 like optimized for it Feb 26 20:35:14 i did a find / -name "applications" Feb 26 20:36:25 so if you want to manually back them up copy your /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications app Feb 26 20:36:30 Can someone help me to restore my WOSQI backup file? Feb 26 20:36:35 doesn't seem to have worked =( Feb 26 20:36:39 happens? Feb 26 20:36:45 what happens* Feb 26 20:36:55 Well I copied the file back Feb 26 20:36:57 restarted Feb 26 20:37:01 still don't have my contacts etc Feb 26 20:37:05 nothing seems to have changed Feb 26 20:37:09 updated to 2.1? Feb 26 20:37:12 yeah Feb 26 20:37:16 did I do something wrong? :3 Feb 26 20:37:16 wont work afaik Feb 26 20:37:27 bleh Feb 26 20:37:35 So why did the guide tell me to back it up? Feb 26 20:37:47 Boopop the .db3 file ? Feb 26 20:37:48 in case you have to go back to 1.4.5 i guess :P Feb 26 20:37:54 not that I'm not grateful Feb 26 20:37:59 Josef_B: Yeah Feb 26 20:38:51 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmDatabase.db3_File Feb 26 20:38:51 i do have a method, but you will have to go back to 1.4.5 and create a gmail account Feb 26 20:39:23 crikey Feb 26 20:39:28 what does it involve? Feb 26 20:39:29 lol Feb 26 20:39:33 http://www.precentral.net/how-to-back-your-palm-profile-information Feb 26 20:39:46 boopop: me or josef_b? Feb 26 20:40:14 boopop has her db3, 2.1 wont recogize it tho Feb 26 20:40:24 his Feb 26 20:40:26 :P Feb 26 20:40:27 sorry Feb 26 20:40:28 lol Feb 26 20:40:38 kinda switting between servers :3 Feb 26 20:40:41 Boopop 2.1 wno't see your .db3 Feb 26 20:40:42 switching* Feb 26 20:41:14 Maybe if I go back to 1.4.5, restore the backup, and try doing it all without deleting my profile backup? Feb 26 20:41:42 Boopop try this http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Feb 26 20:41:49 what you could do is go back to 1.4.5, restore your db3, export your contacts to a .csv file, upload to gmail, and sign into 2.1 with your gmail account Feb 26 20:42:01 like he said Boopop Feb 26 20:42:17 yeah that's what I was looking at Josef_B Feb 26 20:42:40 my method wont cover your text messages tho, only contacts :3 Feb 26 20:42:55 Think I might try restoring the db on 1.4.5 Feb 26 20:43:00 back it up Feb 26 20:43:05 then go back to 2.1 Feb 26 20:43:07 yup Feb 26 20:43:18 Can I sign into my profile still on 1.4.5? Feb 26 20:43:27 sure, dont see why not Feb 26 20:43:32 deleted the backup 'cause the guide said I should...d'ohy Feb 26 20:43:36 wish I hadn't now! Feb 26 20:43:48 lol Feb 26 20:44:04 Gonna be a long night! Feb 26 20:44:08 thanks for the help everyone =) Feb 26 20:44:12 oh to export your contacts to a .csv file, you must install the patch from preware Feb 26 20:44:30 i think the name of it is "Export contacts to email" or something Feb 26 20:44:39 you will find it, just type it into preware Feb 26 20:44:41 good luck Feb 26 20:45:03 Was about to say I'd do both things Feb 26 20:45:24 but then I realised if I do the backup profile via server method and it doesn't work I'll have to go back to 1.4.5 anyway won't I Feb 26 20:46:07 yea Feb 26 20:46:19 just export to .csv and upload it to your gmail account Feb 26 20:46:35 and then log into your 2.1 profile, and sign into your gmail account under the contacts app Feb 26 20:47:01 your contacts should be back :D Feb 26 20:47:13 I wanna try my way first, sorry :P Feb 26 20:48:01 lol sure :P Feb 26 20:51:21 Can i make my own wiki page on webos-internals.org? Feb 26 20:52:19 Bye 2.1 Feb 26 20:52:23 Hello again 1.4.5 >.< Feb 26 20:52:32 Welcome to 1 hour ago Feb 26 21:02:58 how do you tell the google account sync to sync contacts you had before and are still there Feb 26 21:05:09 you mean re-sync existing contacts? Feb 26 21:05:13 hay Feb 26 21:05:25 patrickc_pre! Feb 26 21:05:35 yep Feb 26 21:05:38 hay! Feb 26 21:05:43 how's it goin? Feb 26 21:05:55 pretty good, fixed my 1x fall back issue :D Feb 26 21:06:02 Robi_: 1 sec i'll tell you Feb 26 21:06:53 brb Feb 26 21:06:55 contacts => prefrences and accounts => Sync Now Feb 26 21:07:31 or alternatively, you can sign out of your google account (that should delete the contacts associated with your google account) then sign back into it Feb 26 21:07:52 it might take a while to remove the account, if you get lucky it might do it instantly Feb 26 21:08:00 sign out* Feb 26 21:12:25 bbl Feb 26 21:23:42 dumdedum Feb 26 21:26:50 Backing up to server Feb 26 21:26:53 back on 1.4.5 Feb 26 21:26:57 for now! xD Feb 26 21:29:02 i can only remove the account not sign out also delete or keep the contact account Feb 26 21:29:19 I'm trying to install flash on my newly 2.1'd pre plus Feb 26 21:29:36 following the directions here:http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/276703-how-get-flash-legacy-devices-2-1-0-a.html#post2884130 Feb 26 21:30:06 I downloaded the VZW Pre 2 doctor, but I can't find a program that will let me look at the files in the .jar Feb 26 21:30:38 (on a mac, I mean) Feb 26 21:32:00 Jmarlow: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Unpack+Jar+mac Feb 26 21:32:03 Jmarlow: mac has one built in, right click open with Archive Ultity (or something like that) Feb 26 21:32:05 Sorry, couldn't help myself :P Feb 26 21:32:20 thanks! Feb 26 21:32:49 I was searching unpack .rar on google Feb 26 21:33:03 since the tutorial mentioned winrar Feb 26 21:36:15 yeah that's for windows Feb 26 21:44:07 flash fails :( Feb 26 21:45:26 lol Feb 26 21:46:33 wow Boopop a lmgtfy .. i haven't seen one of those in a while Feb 26 21:57:35 what's up? Feb 26 21:58:51 morning Feb 26 22:03:36 Ok, cryptk|offline should be here soon to do demo, since pretty much everyone else left the booth for now but me sethron Feb 26 22:05:32 halfhalo: you guys want a tweet to announce the demo? Feb 26 22:07:42 that will be great for when the switch happens, but cryptk|offline wants food first Feb 26 22:08:44 eh, I'm not having too much luck with the flash...is it really worth it? Feb 26 22:08:46 halfhalo: what time shall I say it will be at? Feb 26 22:09:29 2:30 Feb 26 22:09:33 20 minutes Feb 26 22:09:35 ok Feb 26 22:11:44 dumbledore: Looks like I'm doing it your way! >.< Feb 26 22:26:20 * phil_bw wanders by Feb 26 22:26:54 question Feb 26 22:27:09 hey phil_bw Feb 26 22:27:20 hey rod, how are ya? Feb 26 22:27:36 trying to ssh into my pre .. i installed openssh and restarted luna .. inital i was able to connect until i read the webos-internals guide .. so i did it and now open ssh won't accept connectons .. do i restart luna ? Feb 26 22:28:24 also is there a gui to control ssh .. weaither to turn itf off and on Feb 26 22:40:41 * dtzWill waves to phil_bw Feb 26 22:40:58 * phil_bw waves back at dtzWill Feb 26 22:41:11 good to see all the friendly faces... er screen names Feb 26 22:41:29 my screen name is way friendlier than my face, consider yourself lucky. Feb 26 22:41:34 :P Feb 26 22:41:48 haha Feb 26 22:42:42 nah i'm rather friendly in person O:) Feb 26 22:43:03 that's good Feb 26 22:43:26 lol. Feb 26 22:43:34 man, I tell ya, it's hard to get anything done when it comes to programming and whatnot when you have a kid on the way Feb 26 22:43:51 only reason I've got any time now is because it's the baby shower and everyone's there Feb 26 22:44:00 haha :/. Feb 26 22:46:37 how do I install preware on 2.1.0? Feb 26 22:46:41 Can I use WOSQI? Feb 26 22:48:45 Boopop: why not just palm-install using the SDK? Feb 26 22:49:08 Because the WOSQI would be easier :3 Feb 26 22:49:29 * destinal shrugs Feb 26 22:49:34 never used it Feb 26 22:49:44 sdk it is I guess Feb 26 22:50:18 sdk is smaller than a doctor, easy to install, and palm-install preware-whatever.ipk is one command Feb 26 22:50:37 so I guess I just don't see the big deal about QI Feb 26 22:50:59 destinal: it runs on windows and has a gui. that's it. Feb 26 22:51:19 Well my big deal is I have QI already, but not SDK, and I'd have to reboot into windows to use the SDK Feb 26 22:51:20 :P Feb 26 22:51:39 Boopop: did you try installing with QI? I'm not saying it wouldn't work, necessarily Feb 26 22:51:51 haven't got that far yet :P Feb 26 22:52:00 Boopop: what OS? Feb 26 22:52:10 on what? Feb 26 22:52:12 Boopop: SDK has OSX and Linux versions Feb 26 22:52:42 no need to reboot into windows Feb 26 23:09:31 I started running ubuntu today... any ideas why I can't palm-install to device? Feb 26 23:09:36 novaterm to device works Feb 26 23:09:47 palm-log --device-list shows emu and pre Feb 26 23:20:31 any mods in here? Feb 26 23:20:58 rwhitby, what was that? Feb 26 23:21:17 thanks Feb 26 23:21:37 internals-scale, is there a ustream going? Feb 26 23:21:47 tell people to watch out for the foam around the vibrator Feb 26 23:21:51 not yet, we are gonna try and hook that up for tomorrow Feb 26 23:21:54 it can easily get caught up Feb 26 23:21:55 gotcha Feb 26 23:22:37 thx Feb 26 23:22:44 np Feb 26 23:22:48 rwhitby: if I didn't know what you were talking about, that'd be much dirtier Feb 26 23:22:48 great job on the demo, btw Feb 26 23:22:54 thanks man Feb 26 23:23:16 rwhitby: may i get a wiki space on webos-internals.org? i have a write up on how to get your contacts back onto 2.1 from 1.4.5 Feb 26 23:23:29 we could do it in one step, but it would only work the first time and would be confusing for people if they tried again (cause the tokens would already be written) Feb 26 23:23:39 dumbledore: just create a new page Feb 26 23:24:03 * dumbledore pokes around for new page button Feb 26 23:24:15 idemp*o*tent Feb 26 23:24:26 :) Feb 26 23:24:37 dumbledore, just type the desired name into the search bar Feb 26 23:24:45 that's what ISaid Feb 26 23:24:57 :-D Feb 26 23:25:11 ah! i found it Feb 26 23:25:15 hi jacques_nc Feb 26 23:25:40 howdy scoutcamper Feb 26 23:26:02 hmm i got the nc into a strange text enrry mode Feb 26 23:26:18 cantse what IM typing Feb 26 23:26:48 which irc program? Feb 26 23:26:57 andchat Feb 26 23:27:15 yep Feb 26 23:27:18 on my nookcolor Feb 26 23:27:30 running honeycomb or eclair? Feb 26 23:27:59 this one isust rootes stock 1.0.0 Feb 26 23:28:38 i have another one with me eunning honeycomb from SD Feb 26 23:30:02 testing - better Feb 26 23:31:27 i hate going for walks Feb 26 23:31:29 0_o Feb 26 23:31:33 jacques_nc, what are chances you have pics of the webos-internals scale booth? Feb 26 23:31:51 scoutcamper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sophistechate/5479717793/ Feb 26 23:32:31 saw that one Feb 26 23:32:38 you guys are there ? Feb 26 23:33:24 Josef_B, no, but lots of others are, and internals-scale is streaming this cannel for onlookers to see Feb 26 23:33:49 oh Feb 26 23:36:56 scoutcamper I am taking lots ofpics Feb 26 23:37:17 jacques_nc, w00t Feb 26 23:37:36 maybee we will see some of those tonight or later when you can upload them :D Feb 26 23:37:37 who is that speaking ? Feb 26 23:37:57 prolly cryptk|offline or halfhalo Feb 26 23:38:11 and this year I have the white balance correct for the tungsten lighting Feb 26 23:38:24 internals-scale: nicely done Feb 26 23:38:27 thanks! Feb 26 23:38:33 phone call went thoguh Feb 26 23:40:42 I'm kinda liking NC as an IRC client Feb 26 23:41:18 thanks Lisa! Feb 26 23:42:02 (lisa typing) you're welcome, rwhitby Feb 26 23:42:25 Lisa: like the "laptop" photo from last night ;) Feb 26 23:44:05 wow that guide is writing code and talking at the same time Feb 26 23:44:08 0_o Feb 26 23:44:14 true leetness Feb 26 23:47:24 internals-scale: EdCates wrote up the script Feb 26 23:47:54 what's this "mayta-doctor" ? Feb 26 23:49:51 ! Feb 26 23:50:43 lol Feb 26 23:50:45 lol Feb 26 23:51:44 got two new batteries for my pres today, so nice! Feb 26 23:56:00 Jack87 here ---- Thanks for joining us Rod! this was a fun event and i dunno if you saw the crowd but it was huge! Feb 26 23:56:11 yeah, looked great Feb 26 23:56:33 internals-scale: can you ask Dwayne to get halfhalo to upload the photos to the same place? Feb 26 23:56:41 rwhitby: my page is supposed to be a User-Talk page? Feb 26 23:56:53 dumbledore: no, just create a new page Feb 26 23:56:57 i will ask him right now.. halfhalo is right beside me talking to linux journal Feb 26 23:57:29 k Feb 26 23:57:33 internals-scale: do you want to give linux journal my email address if they want to contact me ? Feb 26 23:58:08 what is the email Feb 26 23:58:13 Bill Childers! Feb 26 23:58:18 yes! Feb 26 23:58:22 Bill Childers is the Linux jorunal guy Feb 26 23:58:24 hey, long time. Feb 26 23:58:39 96! Feb 26 23:58:47 small world! Feb 26 23:59:11 back on the pre Feb 27 00:02:25 dumbledore you able to ssh to your pre ? Feb 27 00:02:42 never tried Feb 27 00:02:47 but i did on my pixi Feb 27 00:02:52 are you talking for 2.1? Feb 27 00:02:57 nope 1.4.5 Feb 27 00:03:08 yeah i was able to do so on my pixi Feb 27 00:03:17 need the steps? Feb 27 00:03:29 i followd webos-interlas guide to setup putty .. now i mtrying to connect .. i get login and type in root .. and press enter booth i get some authenitcation error Feb 27 00:04:04 s/booth/but Feb 27 00:04:28 USB or WiFi? Feb 27 00:04:50 wifi Feb 27 00:04:55 try USB Feb 27 00:05:03 thats how i did mine Feb 27 00:05:08 ping is fine Feb 27 00:05:12 oh Feb 27 00:05:31 i have no clue... :/ i never had that error before Feb 27 00:07:33 rwhitby: Hey Rod! Is there a way we could put the Upgrade to 2.0 wiki page in other languages? (specifically I'm thinking in spanish) :) Feb 27 00:07:59 NuttyBunny: sure, just do it the same way the Meta-Doctor page is done Feb 27 00:08:26 this might be easier on ubuntu Feb 27 00:08:58 there are way to many laptops with irc here right now Feb 27 00:09:34 ubuntu is best for doing stuff for webos imo Feb 27 00:09:42 internals-scale: I've turned off skype Feb 27 00:10:08 the crowd for the drawing gets bigger every time Feb 27 00:10:22 I rebooted that laptop anywho Feb 27 00:10:27 rwhitby: Excellent :) Feb 27 00:12:09 booth is pretty much dead ATM, hp drawing Feb 27 00:12:38 rwhitby: does Save/Restore backup and restore contacts by any chance? Feb 27 00:12:45 no Feb 27 00:12:51 use google for that Feb 27 00:12:57 or http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Contacts_Transfer_(1.4.x_to_2.x) Feb 27 00:13:16 Thanks Feb 27 00:13:37 jacques_pre: halfhalo has a spot to upload pictures Feb 27 00:13:54 Tried that earlier, it stopped at "preparing email" >.< Feb 27 00:14:43 Hmm, maybe if I try again and with the uberkernel it might go a bit quicker... Feb 27 00:19:29 * oil wonders where pictures are Feb 27 00:20:33 oil, me too Feb 27 00:20:51 Boopop: did you configure an email address in contacts app Feb 27 00:21:14 How did you mean dumbledore? Feb 27 00:21:48 did you add an email account? Feb 27 00:22:08 in the email app or the contacts app? Feb 27 00:22:14 I think I had an email address configured Feb 27 00:22:19 well I'll check this time anyway Feb 27 00:22:25 did you add the password? Feb 27 00:22:52 dunno Feb 27 00:23:01 check it Feb 27 00:23:14 password for what? Feb 27 00:23:18 the email address? Feb 27 00:23:30 yeah Feb 27 00:25:06 Jack87-- I still remain without a Pre2! and feet on fire. Feb 27 00:28:58 * halfhalo goes to sleep under the booth Feb 27 00:53:20 wassup? Feb 27 00:59:07 http://webos.pastebin.com/Kc4b1C6k Feb 27 00:59:51 what's that for; Feb 27 00:59:58 s/;/? Feb 27 01:00:27 i was just showing you the settings just in case it would be of any help Feb 27 01:00:29 PatrickC_Pre for that to work you have to add a / to the end Feb 27 01:00:39 uggg Feb 27 01:00:44 ahh ok Feb 27 01:00:48 hi haeffb Feb 27 01:00:53 halfhalo* Feb 27 01:00:56 lolz Feb 27 01:00:59 stupid x-chat Feb 27 01:01:10 I try to rest now Feb 27 01:01:14 i mean to post thatin another window Feb 27 01:01:15 go sleep Feb 27 01:01:18 what happened? Feb 27 01:02:52 * rwhitby bbl Feb 27 01:06:53 bbl Feb 27 01:12:04 * Josef_B hates novaterm Feb 27 01:12:04 lol Feb 27 01:16:48 well look who it is Feb 27 01:22:05 my pre hasent falled back into 1x as of today :D Feb 27 01:55:18 * NuttyBunny has now finished translating Rod's wiki webOS 2.0 update page to spanish :D http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Actualizacion_webOS_2.0 Feb 27 01:59:10 nice Feb 27 02:01:08 when can we expect a flashlight patch for 2.1? Feb 27 02:02:30 There is one already Feb 27 02:03:29 Jason's Device Menu Megamix, but you have to ask him for access to the systoolsmgr beta, since it's for 2.x it's under NDA and can't be published in the Preware servers :( Feb 27 02:04:42 oh... Feb 27 02:04:44 :/ Feb 27 02:07:18 lol nuttybunny thats awesome what you did with the wiki page Feb 27 02:08:08 he must have put it thru a web transulator :P eh NuttyBunny Feb 27 02:08:57 i have a 60kb .vfc archive :3 Feb 27 02:09:17 60kb of peoples numbers :D Feb 27 02:09:50 sad Feb 27 02:10:24 question, If I used the metadoctor script for the verizon pre plus, is there any way to get the mobile hotspot, skype, and flash on it without doing a fresh install? Feb 27 02:19:32 Jmarlow: you can extract the doctor image and get the verizon specific customizations and install them after the fact Feb 27 02:19:54 flash too though it's a bit more work Feb 27 02:20:08 cool Feb 27 02:20:11 thanks Feb 27 02:20:28 is there a step by step tutorial for doing so on a mac? Feb 27 02:21:27 Howdy! I hear y'all are working on a system to get webOS 2.0 working on the Palm Pre Plus, but am having trouble finding the relevant information on the status of things. Does anyone have a link? Feb 27 02:21:54 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Feb 27 02:22:12 Jmarlow: Perfect. Thank you! Feb 27 02:22:19 no problem Feb 27 02:23:08 Jmarlow: I don't know of any tutorials yet Feb 27 02:23:59 ah, okay...I'm not in a rush really, I'm sure it'll get clearer in the future Feb 27 02:25:51 Okay, so I have another potentially silly question: There are instructions for manually installing the Adobe Flash Player plugin. Is there any reason those same steps couldn't be used to install it into webOS 1.4.5? Feb 27 02:26:32 tyrok: while the plugin may install this way the browser doesn't have support for configuring it Feb 27 02:26:48 Right. Feb 27 02:27:10 tyrok: with a homebrew app to manage the configuration (wherever it comes from) it may be possible Feb 27 02:27:37 Sounds like it'd make for an interesting experiment. Feb 27 02:27:54 I tried it back in november and lacking the configuration stuff couldn't get it working Feb 27 02:28:57 looking into what the 2.x browser actually does to configure it may be helpful though Feb 27 02:29:16 I tried just trying to run the browser app from 2.x and it failed spectacularly :) Feb 27 02:29:25 Nice. :) Feb 27 02:30:52 tyrok: do you have any links to the instructions, btw? Jmarlow was trying to install flash as well as the verizon-specific apps Feb 27 02:37:25 Many are complaining that 2.1 is quite slow, but I don't see much of a difference from the default 1.45 state, the animations seem to be buttery smooth. I would obviously want to OC it at some point, but I could definitely live with this. Feb 27 02:40:20 well if they're not running on o2 or a pre2, then they shouldn't be complaining since 2.1 wasn't made for their device :3 Feb 27 02:47:57 destinal: Just the link that Jmarlow sent over a little while ago. Feb 27 02:48:51 tyrok: I tried following the directions, but on the mac it's bit difficult, as I don't have winrar to unpack the .jar Feb 27 02:49:35 Ah, fun. Well, thanks for the pointers, folks! I think I'm going to head out. Feb 27 02:51:35 um, on a mac you just use unzip to unpack a .jar Feb 27 02:51:56 Jmarlow: I do all webos-internals development on a mac, btw. Feb 27 02:52:37 rwhitby: thanks...I'm more than a bit incompetent. Feb 27 02:54:00 so second battery on my 2.1'd Pre- won't charge. Dr. Battery tells me -200mA when not charging, -20mA when charging from the wall Feb 27 02:55:25 anyone else having battery trouble? Feb 27 02:55:48 djwhitey: I suspect you got the tokens wrong Feb 27 02:57:27 * rwhitby thinks it's time for the meta-doctor to start controlling the repacking of stuff in the carrier tarball ... Feb 27 02:59:22 k gonna doctor back to 1.4.5 & then to 2.1 not monkeying with tokens this time **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 27 02:59:57 2011