**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 11 02:59:57 2011 Mar 11 03:01:00 has anyone else that's doctored a Verizon Pre+ had problems with 3G?? Mar 11 03:01:18 that is, meta-doctored to 2.1 Mar 11 03:01:36 well anyway, I will sleep over it. Thanks nutty & rwhitby. Mar 11 03:02:30 JetUni17: mine has been trouble free Mar 11 03:04:05 really? there are several problems with mine that I can't think of at the moment... Mar 11 03:07:23 I miss a few patches, but gps/email/pdk games all work well Mar 11 03:07:46 Like the flash in the browser always has that load issue... Mar 11 03:08:10 that I haven't done yet Mar 11 03:08:33 ya....i followed the instructions to fix it, but it didn't work for me... :( Mar 11 03:09:07 i just upped the compache limit, hopefully that'll help with stuff running faster Mar 11 03:10:18 uberkernel made all the difference for me Mar 11 03:11:01 Loudergood: you're supposed to move the whole back of the phone including the comm board and the antenna as one unit Mar 11 03:11:14 I know Mar 11 03:11:36 that's why I said I was a little nervous about it Mar 11 03:12:13 Loudergood: oh, why? worried about damaging something? Mar 11 03:12:30 well of course... Mar 11 03:12:42 but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine Mar 11 03:12:45 Loudergood: I've got a few spares to practice on first, fortunately Mar 11 03:13:01 yeah no spare pre2s for me Mar 11 03:13:19 err well no spare pre2's but spare pre-'s to practice swapping backs Mar 11 03:13:25 it'll be reasonably close Mar 11 03:13:34 but I learned my lesson years ago with athlon cpus Mar 11 03:13:41 man I had a pile of dead ones there Mar 11 03:15:15 part of the reason I moved over to tweaking/experimenting with software...failure was much less expensive Mar 11 04:29:52 All right, so I'm on a VZW Pre+ with 2.1.0 and am having a bit of trouble with the App Catalog. I can download apps fine and such, but the 'Preferences and Accounts' scene always throws me an error. Mar 11 04:30:08 Is this just something I can't avoid? Mar 11 04:32:50 * Loudergood checks Mar 11 04:33:05 works for me Mar 11 04:34:01 mmm... I don't see the preferences and accounts option :S Mar 11 04:34:26 and, I just get a "No applications found" on the Featured apps scene :( Mar 11 04:34:39 But can browse apps and buy them Mar 11 04:35:47 Perhaps an issue of using the same account I used on 1.4.5? (After I deleted server-side backup.) Mar 11 05:00:43 PuffTheMagic: all fields are 32bits Mar 11 05:01:09 if you're getting less, whatever you're viewing it with is consuming nulls Mar 11 05:01:21 if you're just trying to print chars that's probably what it is Mar 11 05:01:36 i'v figured it out Mar 11 05:01:48 it was the lib i was using Mar 11 05:01:51 ah Mar 11 05:01:54 i was being lazy and using telnetlib Mar 11 05:01:57 and that was breaking it Mar 11 05:02:07 im using the socket directly and it works Mar 11 05:02:58 yeah, consuming nulls Mar 11 05:35:05 geist, anything special about the header when i put a file Mar 11 05:35:25 magic + 1 + len(data) + 0 Mar 11 05:39:19 yes! cripes man Mar 11 05:39:27 how many times do i have to tell you Mar 11 05:40:08 there's also a max packet size. dont sent one more than 16k or so Mar 11 05:40:16 you'll have to split it into multiple packets Mar 11 05:40:34 ya i've noticed that part Mar 11 05:40:36 about the 16k Mar 11 05:40:46 the file is getting created but no data in it Mar 11 05:40:48 thats why im asking Mar 11 05:40:52 you have to understand and actually deal with the protocll in the same way you cant just play back a tcp stream and expect it to work Mar 11 05:41:14 and you'll probalby need to send an EOF packet Mar 11 05:41:23 though closing the socket will probably work too Mar 11 05:41:44 closing does not seem to be working Mar 11 05:42:02 if you send a packet too large it'll reject it Mar 11 05:42:11 its 70bytes Mar 11 05:42:48 well, i can't look at the reference code sincei dont have it anymore Mar 11 05:42:50 good night Mar 11 05:43:31 hows life geist ? Mar 11 05:43:38 so i dunno what you're doing wrong. but a) you have to split the data packets, b) you have to send an EOF and c) you have to send a fake return code before d) closing he socket Mar 11 05:43:43 if you want to be proper Mar 11 05:44:00 usually after c the other side will immediately close with you Mar 11 05:44:04 bpadalino: sup Mar 11 05:44:13 in austin this week. at sxsw Mar 11 05:44:14 can't sleep yet .. saw you were talking it up Mar 11 05:44:24 oh cool - what's going on at sxsw? Mar 11 05:44:36 crazy too, i havent even thought about this novacom stuff in a few months Mar 11 05:45:05 can you say what fun stuff you've been working on ? Mar 11 05:45:11 nope Mar 11 05:45:15 sounds fun Mar 11 05:46:29 looking forward to anything in particular at sxsw ? Mar 11 05:46:47 yeah, got a bunch of stuff to see Mar 11 05:47:48 are you there more for music or film .. or just all the interactive stuff ? Mar 11 05:47:56 all of the above Mar 11 05:48:06 mostly music, though going to some interactive stuff Mar 11 05:49:36 lots of bands playing .. wow Mar 11 06:05:15 anyone who can quickly check http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.preware_1.5.7_arm.ipk for sanity? Mar 11 06:07:28 rwhitby, check that it exists? or check that it works? Mar 11 06:07:45 check it works - it's going public feed soon Mar 11 06:10:21 destinal, i pushed my put code, its still not working though Mar 11 06:12:18 rwhitby, any major changes that I should make sure to test? Mar 11 06:13:58 cryptk: search Mar 11 06:14:13 should fix the problem with the dumb package with no title Mar 11 06:14:38 ahh Mar 11 06:16:19 rwhitby, seems good to go Mar 11 06:18:10 thx Mar 11 06:18:53 odd thing though is that preware didn't see it in the testing feed... I had to sideload it via palm-install Mar 11 06:19:19 could be the ipkg server having a cached Packages.gz there though Mar 11 06:25:34 * cryptk loves this pic... http://www.webos-internals.org/images/6/6d/Donated_HP_Server.JPG Mar 11 06:49:57 sexy Mar 11 07:32:39 rwhitby: hi, I have a problem with save/restor. It only shows the menu entrioes greyed out. Evene aftedeleting the old backup and reinstall and reboot Mar 11 07:32:58 Last time I had this I only needed to delete the old backup Mar 11 07:39:55 hape: this is usually caused by an error in the scripts Mar 11 07:40:02 what does Lumberjack report? Mar 11 07:59:17 join /#webos Mar 11 08:03:50 your slash is in the wrong place Mar 11 09:07:20 rwhitby: still here? Mar 11 09:07:42 yep Mar 11 09:08:41 Lumberjack has ony info and warning messages when I start save/restor Mar 11 09:09:16 sorry now he is there look like save/restore needed more time to laod up then I gavie him before Mar 11 09:09:29 I try again, to verify Mar 11 09:10:23 hape: you can also check dbus/ls2 messages for save-restore Mar 11 09:10:48 ok, save restore needs about 20 secondas after the message "finished loding datata" dissapears. Mar 11 09:11:03 Then the entrys are activated and the numbers are shown. Mar 11 09:11:20 yep, it takes a while now there are lots of scripts Mar 11 09:11:30 Perhaps you shoud show a loding spinner at that time. The user do not know that the scrips are still belaoded Mar 11 09:11:39 "patches welcome" ;) Mar 11 09:11:49 ;) Mar 11 09:12:04 I agree it should. Mar 11 09:20:43 ok, got my Pre Plus hardware glued together with my Sprint Pre radio board. What's next / Mar 11 09:20:46 ? Mar 11 09:22:09 * bhuey googles for the metadoctor Mar 11 09:22:24 was pretty simple getting the hardware out and connected Mar 11 09:22:58 looks like boot into Linux on this machine Mar 11 09:29:56 bhuey: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus Mar 11 09:30:01 * rwhitby bbl Mar 11 09:51:07 Hi@all! I'd like to participate in the Linphone testing. Can anyone provide me with a link to the .ipk-file? I'm using a Pixi Plus on o2 Germany. Mar 11 09:59:27 rwhitby: thanks Mar 11 10:05:05 rwhitby: I just want to put this in dev mode with no profile, do I still need all of those values ? Mar 11 10:05:25 also, I can't use the screen on this pre since it's cracked Mar 11 10:09:06 * bhuey thinks he might have to reassemble the Sprint Pre Mar 11 10:09:43 This is also a deactivated Sprint Pre device Mar 11 10:09:54 * bhuey will wait for rwhitby Mar 11 10:12:07 heyho Mar 11 10:12:20 anyone online who got a pre 2 as a free dev device? Mar 11 13:01:24 Hi, Can i launch an app (like internalz) from Terminal ?? Mar 11 13:01:33 from the phone directly Mar 11 13:13:26 you could, yes Mar 11 13:13:44 you'd have to navigate to the apps directory and run it from there Mar 11 13:15:14 mmm Mar 11 13:15:37 i found the luna-send command Mar 11 13:15:47 but ...now i have some trouble Mar 11 13:16:00 my ideas is to open a file with internalz Mar 11 13:16:21 now i can launch interenalz but i don't know how can i send to it the file to open Mar 11 13:28:43 Darkmagister Mar 11 13:28:47 ask Jay Canuck Mar 11 13:29:17 via Twitter Mar 11 13:29:17 @JayCanuck Mar 11 13:29:21 yes i had send an email Mar 11 13:29:35 but maybe someone here know the answer :D Mar 11 13:36:13 Darkmagister: do you mean launch an app from a terminal app on the phone, or from a terminal on your computer? Mar 11 13:36:36 terminal app from phone Mar 11 13:36:57 yeah, that's a good question :) Mar 11 13:37:03 ok found it :D thanks to canuck :D : luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/open '{"id":"ca.canucksoftware.internalz", "params":{"target":"/path/to/file"}}' Mar 11 13:37:36 for some other info about luna-send http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Luna_Send here some good stuff Mar 11 13:37:54 oh, nice :) Mar 11 13:38:02 :D Mar 11 13:38:36 now the best thing i can found is if it's possibile to pass a string to luna-send to add it to the clipboard :D Mar 11 13:39:02 with this command i can copy things from the terminal to an app ;) Mar 11 13:39:10 kind of like pbcopy and pbpaste in OSX? Mar 11 13:39:42 yes, it sounds like that's exactly what you want to do Mar 11 13:39:50 and that would be awesome Mar 11 13:40:24 yes because i use some line command on the terminal but i can't copy the output from it to email or note Mar 11 13:40:56 is there a working terminal app for 2.x btw? Mar 11 13:42:04 mmm i think no Mar 11 13:42:36 i have tried the Terminal app but doesn't work ... but i have an old pre with 1.4.5 and here i have the terminal :D Mar 11 13:42:36 doesn't seem like it. it only gives me a black screen Mar 11 13:43:17 as far as I know Terminal needs updating for 2.x but that's not been done yet. Mar 11 13:47:41 i can ask this in the precentral forum maybe someone can help me :D Mar 11 13:54:00 I'd guess there'd be some kind of clipboard-service, and if so, you could probably luna-send something to it Mar 11 13:57:07 rwhitby: how about 2.1 on a Sprint Pre Plus ? Mar 11 14:00:42 the only things i have found is Mar 11 14:00:44 http://www.webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Copying_Text_to_the_Clipboard Mar 11 14:01:22 and ths clipboard is a webkit function ... not a system function ... for example no pdk app can access directly to it ... Mar 11 14:01:41 maybe i can't send text to it from luna-send Mar 11 14:02:08 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2906158 here my question on the forum :D Mar 11 14:03:01 Darkmagister: you better launch the email app Mar 11 14:03:06 with your body text Mar 11 14:15:29 any1 around who knows something about the openvpn package ? Mar 11 14:18:55 MetaView: how i can send the body text to email with luna-send ?? i have no idea what method or param. can send to it Mar 11 14:23:43 hello Mar 11 14:24:41 Internalz hit the app catalog!!!!!! Congratulations all! Mar 11 14:26:13 surprised. how is that possible Mar 11 14:27:39 wow, it really is. Mar 11 14:28:24 argh, who wrote that German description. Sounds like an automatic translate = sucks Mar 11 14:28:53 I'm in the US :) Mar 11 14:29:55 I am just so suprised because I thought it requires some homebrew background services (which can't be put on the app catalog). Mar 11 14:30:20 I thought so too Mar 11 14:30:25 but its there :D Mar 11 14:30:33 whats internalz ? Mar 11 14:31:35 check the app catalog Mar 11 14:31:37 Ah, requires 2.x. It does not show up in the Catalog on my 1.4.5 phone. Mar 11 14:31:48 its the most amazing app ever! Mar 11 14:31:56 m-h-k :'( Mar 11 14:32:01 Patrick, for your definition of most amazing :) Mar 11 14:32:53 lets you access the USB drive without having it plugged in, and it is an awesome app for developers/hackers :) Mar 11 14:44:44 * PatrickC-School will just be lurking every so often Mar 11 14:46:14 Pixi Plus on newegg for $59 Mar 11 14:46:17 lol Mar 11 14:47:24 Morning guys, anyone happen to know if Mode Switcher works on 2.1? Mar 11 14:47:41 it is in Beta right now Mar 11 14:47:57 Darkmagister: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=10170 Mar 11 14:48:15 Thanks PatrickC-School :) Mar 11 14:48:36 not sure if it is open beta though. wish I could tell you that. sorry Mar 11 14:48:40 thanks ;) Mar 11 14:48:48 That was more thanhelpful :) Mar 11 14:56:29 now i only have to know how can i pass a variable to the luna-send command in a json Mar 11 15:08:35 The Palm-webOS-Doctor_webOS-Sprint-pre_pre_sprint.jar file hasnt been "officially" released yet right? or any .jar that has the Sprint NAV fix for 2.1 Mar 11 15:11:02 I don't believe that they have fixed Sprint Nav on 2.1 Mar 11 15:11:10 but I could be wrong Mar 11 15:11:29 supposedly ya can sub the file from 2.0.1 Mar 11 15:11:35 think I finally found it Mar 11 15:11:57 how would you get the file from 2.0.1? it never made it to sprint Mar 11 15:12:55 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/276961-anyone-get-sprint-nav-working-2-1-0-a.html#post2887872 Mar 11 16:12:51 woohoo, got Sprint NAV working on 2.1 next up is flash then Im calling it quits Mar 11 16:17:10 * djwhitey goes to grab the usb cord out the car. gonna try SprintNav too Mar 11 16:24:51 Savo, is that sprint nav from the 1.4.5 doctor? Mar 11 16:25:03 no Mar 11 16:25:36 oh, I see the link... we kinda frown on discussing that doctor in here Mar 11 16:25:52 ah, my apologies Mar 11 16:45:28 Hello I would like to ask something before I buy a Pre 2. I live in Cyprus (Europe) where I've read the app catalog is not supported. If I purchase a Pre 2 from the UK (unlocked) will I still be able to install free applications? I've read that in order to access the app catalog the phone must be activated in a country where the app catalog is supported. Mar 11 16:46:54 Free apps should work everywhere, just piad apps work only in when activated in the correct country with a SIM card of this country, AFAIK Mar 11 16:47:45 DimitrisC, yes, I would recommend you get someone in the UK to activate the Pre2 once before sending it to you -- if you can arrange for that Mar 11 16:47:58 MetaView: So I would see the same free apps in Cyprus as someone using the same phone in the UK with the only exception being paid apps? Did I understand it correctly? Mar 11 16:48:16 You can still access free apps without it, but this Pre2 will forever be locked to free apps only. Mar 11 16:48:51 m-h-k: I already contacted the webstore that I am thinking of purchasing it from and they told me they are more than happy to activate the phone before sending it to me. Mar 11 16:49:20 DimitirsC: that is good. Once they activate it for the first time, it is then forever allowed access to the paid apps also! Mar 11 16:49:32 m-h-k: I just wanted to know if it will work properly after I put my local sim in it if its activated using a UK sim. Mar 11 16:49:47 Dimitirs, yes, it should work fine with a different SIM. Mar 11 16:50:05 Dimitris, I am using a German Pre- (O2 Germany) in Austria with an Austrian SIM. Mar 11 16:50:33 I got it second-hand on ebay, and it had previously been used and activated with a O2 DE SIM. Mar 11 16:50:56 m-h-k: Nice! I've been using an android phone and I am kind of used to the android market. So I wanted access to the app catalog as well. Mar 11 16:50:57 Now I can access paid apps, too, and it works fine with my Austrian SIM. Mar 11 16:51:37 It is good to know after your first activation that you have the option of purchasing apps. Even if you do not use it at first. Mar 11 16:51:44 m-h-k: So for paid apps I would still require to have a credit card with a UK address, correct? Mar 11 16:52:11 When you actually want to purchase, you also need a European credit card. I am not sure what the restrictions are here. It works fine with my Austrian VISA card. Mar 11 16:52:37 Ah, it does not necessarily have to be a UK credit card. I think it just needs to be from some of the supported European countries. Mar 11 16:52:56 I am not sure if Cyprus is on that list, though. Mar 11 16:54:09 Yeah probably not (as we are very much left behind in all things tech lol) but if I have the phone activated in the UK and obtain access to paid apps I'll probable then find a way to purchase them :-) Mar 11 16:54:33 can anyone tell me where i can extract the nova-installer-image-castle.uImage file from a dr? Mar 11 16:55:21 It's inside resources/webOS.tar Mar 11 16:55:32 awesome Mar 11 16:55:32 ah, no, sorry Mar 11 16:55:45 the nova installer is somewhere else, hold on Mar 11 16:55:48 m-h-k: You've been very helpful. Thank you. I'm off to buy my Pre 2. Can't wait for Pre 3 to come out this summer! :-) Mar 11 16:56:58 DimitrisC: the important part is that the first activation is done in the UK with a UK SIM. Afterwards you can add credit cards, change profiles etc. All of that can be modified later. But first activation only happens, well, a first and only time only. Mar 11 16:57:11 Good luck, Dimitris! Mar 11 16:57:34 Yeah, I just try to hang on to my Pre- long enough until the Pre3 is available.... Mar 11 16:58:22 m-h-k: I'll contact the webstore again and make sure they understood what I want them to do! Mar 11 16:59:16 Dimitris, they need to put in a UK SIM card, turn on the phone, and go through the full Activation procedure (creating a new profile account, entering name, accepting terms and conditions etc.) until the phone reboots again and is able to make calls etc. Mar 11 16:59:33 Dimitris, then they can turn it off and take out the SIM again and pack everythign and ship it to you. Mar 11 17:02:07 projectalarum: he... what do you know... it's there, on resources/webOS.tar as I said before ;) Mar 11 17:03:10 Dimitris, there is some info on First Activation in http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/256821-gsm-unlocking-tips-information-about-gsm-umts-frequencies.html Mar 11 17:29:53 m-h-k: Thanks again! I'll check it out! Mar 11 17:49:35 anyone know if the other method of changing boot logo (like thru internalz) still works in 2.1.0? Mar 11 18:33:42 so if i wanted to take the comm board from my pre2 and put it in the pre- i did the swap on, what dr would I run? i figured the o2 version but wasnt sure of the keyboard/etc. i probably won't ever use a sim card with it unless i go out of the country, but would primarily be used for testing, and preferably with just 1.4.5..... any thoughts? Mar 11 18:35:17 SprintNav is a go. nice Mar 11 18:54:41 keith: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_webOS_Boot_Themes#NOTE:_In_webOS_2.x.2C_the_boot_images_are_named_hp-logo.png_and_hp-logo-bright.png.__Be_sure_to_make_the_necessary_adjustments_to_your_commands_when_following_the_steps_below. Mar 11 18:54:51 wow that's a long URL Mar 11 18:56:40 awesome, thx :) Mar 11 18:57:02 who made that page title... Mar 11 18:57:14 mediawiki. Mar 11 18:57:59 that's an url to an anchor in the 'patch webos boot themes'-page Mar 11 18:58:20 yea, i specifically wanted to anchor him straight to it Mar 11 18:58:36 since the logo names are different in 2.1 Mar 11 18:58:56 yeah, I get that.. Mar 11 18:59:07 ahh Mar 11 19:02:06 AAAARGH!!! why? why? why can't javascript just use 64bit integers? why does it have to use 32bit SIGNED integers??!!!! :@ Mar 11 19:02:09 Sorry for the rant Mar 11 19:02:27 (and it didn't even go on this channel) Mar 11 19:07:13 sr71 is not liking my pre.. and is stuck in a boot loop Mar 11 19:08:44 You have 3 options: Stick your Pre 3 or 4 minutes in the freezer, boot it and uninstall sr71, doctor your phone, or memboot with a working kernel (and then uninstall sr71( Mar 11 19:09:36 Jack87: memboot the recovery (stock) or regular Uberkernel & remove SR71 Mar 11 19:11:22 Roger Roger.... is this common right now with sr71?> Mar 11 19:16:46 Always have been, some Pres just don't like sr71 Mar 11 19:17:17 Baby Pre boots SR71 and runs, but under load it freezes... and the my Plus just won't boot it :( Mar 11 19:22:02 NuttyBunny, gotcha thanks for the heads up Mar 11 19:22:38 sure, np Mar 11 19:22:53 ya..it first booted and worked for a min. as it was updating feeds in preware it jumped to a luna restart. than it quit and went to a full restart and it was stuck at the static logo screen before animation and kept looping Mar 11 19:25:51 s/than/then/ Mar 11 19:25:51 Jack87 meant: ya..it first booted and worked for a min. as it was updating feeds in preware it jumped to a luna restart. then it quit and went to a full restart and it was stuck at the static logo screen before animation and kept looping Mar 11 19:26:25 Ah, you can stick it a bit in the fridge, the thing got too hot Mar 11 19:26:44 after certain temperature luna restarts Mar 11 19:27:46 ah.. so thats why it was stuck on a loop? everytime it kept trying to start luna phone would reboot? Mar 11 19:54:15 Jack87: Yep, it keeps restarting, and if you don't stop the loop it will not cool down, and if you don't let it cool down... well, you may fry the cpu :) Mar 11 19:55:29 anybody know the "from off" boot time of the foleo? Mar 11 20:00:31 so if i wanted to take the comm board from my pre2 and put it in the pre- i did the swap on, what dr would I run? i figured the o2 version but wasnt sure of the keyboard/etc. i probably won't ever use a sim card with it unless i go out of the country, but would primarily be used for testing, and preferably with just 1.4.5..... any thoughts? Mar 11 20:02:16 projectalarum, is there a world ready GSM pre doctor out there? Mar 11 20:03:09 i guess not Mar 11 20:03:19 there is an unlocked dr but only for the gsm pre2 Mar 11 20:04:08 you can meta doctor the O2 I am sure Mar 11 20:04:10 i figured the o2 or vodafone would be the closest but i don't know for sure, ie., qwerty vs. qwertz, gsm, etc.... and for a pre- 1.4.5 Mar 11 20:04:33 in metadoctor you can specify the keyboard Mar 11 20:05:13 make it ignore carrier and model and all that fun stuff as needed Mar 11 20:11:33 http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2011/03/a35f53dc4a96ab26b4cacdeefd17469b/original.jpg :P Mar 11 20:12:09 hi people Mar 11 20:17:41 hey guys. i did the 2.1 update and i just noticed that when the screen is off and i get a call it doesnt use the normal ring, its just an alert sond over n over, but when the screen is on and i get a call it uses the normal ring, ive tryed switching everything in the "sounds" menu, any ideas? Mar 11 20:19:32 has anyone tried uninstalling preware in 2.1 with orange(white)+tap> Delete.... I am not having any luck Mar 11 20:20:32 works fine with regular catalog installed apps. but not so much for preware Mar 11 20:21:05 * haeffb preparing to sprintify a Pre 2. Two questions... Mar 11 20:21:25 1) does the sprint pre- need to be activated before proceeding? Mar 11 20:21:36 2) does the sprint pre- need to have 2.x installed first? Mar 11 20:21:57 no. u can do it without activating Mar 11 20:22:54 and jack. i think u can just del preware with quick install. Mar 11 20:23:08 anyone have any ideas about my question ? Mar 11 20:23:11 * Jack87 doesnt touch webos quickinstall Mar 11 20:23:24 3) is there any reason to use the 2.0.1 rather than 2.1.0? Mar 11 20:23:37 haeffb, use 2.1.0 Mar 11 20:23:43 no... use 2.1.0 Mar 11 20:23:54 * admiral0 installed 2.1.0 Mar 11 20:24:02 jomama, i think i noticed that about the ringer but never cared enough to tinker with it Mar 11 20:24:20 ok, wish me luck!!! :) Mar 11 20:24:58 NuttyBunny, you wouldnt know off the top of your head the best ipkg remove command for preware would you Mar 11 20:25:43 yea but its such a soft sound i cant even hear it when its in my pocket. Mar 11 21:01:46 Hi, i got a pre- with webos 2.1 put on using meta-doctor script, everything working good (even have sprint nav on), but I had a question.... Mar 11 21:02:04 Jack87: I went to grab some lunch... have you tried ipkg remove org.webosinternals.preware ?? Mar 11 21:02:20 NuttyBunny, ya.. it didnt work... however destinal helped me... Mar 11 21:02:30 ah, cool :) Mar 11 21:02:41 ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove org.webosinternals.preware Mar 11 21:02:49 -o was key i think Mar 11 21:02:52 when you first turn on the pre before the hp logo there is the webosinternals/linux mascot can this image be changed? Mar 11 21:03:06 Somebody_, never! Mar 11 21:03:09 ;) Mar 11 21:03:23 ~log Mar 11 21:03:24 log is, like, located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt Mar 11 21:03:51 geist, if you are around and have a min I could use your help Mar 11 21:03:55 i can't find where it is stored on the device :( Mar 11 21:04:11 Jack87: Yes, you're right ;) Mar 11 21:04:41 Somebody_: It's flashed at Doctor Time, you can't change it afterwards, it shows that you're using a custom doctor :) Mar 11 21:05:31 theres no way to modify it : \ Mar 11 21:05:59 sure u can Mar 11 21:06:01 can you request a read reciept on an email sent from a Pre? Mar 11 21:06:03 Somebody_, go mess with themes Mar 11 21:06:15 it's before the themes Mar 11 21:07:06 Somebody_, look through the scripts youll figure it out i think Mar 11 21:07:44 i guess i would have to reflash to change if i wanted Mar 11 21:07:50 to change it Mar 11 21:08:05 yes. I believe a reflash is needed Mar 11 21:08:46 it's needed, it's flashed with the bootloader Mar 11 21:09:14 my pre just stopped sending emails :'( Mar 11 21:09:14 i notticed it appeared to be a TGA when on my pc Mar 11 21:09:55 wasn't sure if it would be stored the same way as on the pre like it does with the boot themes Mar 11 21:11:09 i have an extra pre here, and i wanna mess with it, i know its blasphimy to speek of this, but ive read that it is possible to flash android to a pre... anyone know of this? the searcing ive done is all dead-ends Mar 11 21:11:39 jomama: I don't think anyone's done an android port yet. it would be possible but I haven't heard of it Mar 11 21:11:58 it's just wrong! lol Mar 11 21:12:57 ive heard of webos on a hero, and talk of android to a pre, but i cant find anything, i know its not right! i love webos, but i just wanna tinker with this pre Mar 11 21:13:15 my pre will not send ANY emails :'( Mar 11 21:13:35 dosent the droid use the same cpu/chipset? Mar 11 21:13:43 as the pre Mar 11 21:13:52 PatrickC_Pixi: patches? Mar 11 21:13:55 yea, same everything Mar 11 21:14:06 none installed on the email side Mar 11 21:14:13 I don't think Mar 11 21:14:15 lemme check Mar 11 21:14:32 patch screwed up my sms quite good Mar 11 21:14:57 the only patch looks to be the "Auto BCC" Mar 11 21:15:03 its just a matter of getting it to boot, i guess flashing bootloader script or something Mar 11 21:15:08 Somebody_: it would still be a por of the board specific stuff Mar 11 21:15:17 jomama: nope, it's a lot more complicated than you're thinking Mar 11 21:16:06 oh, now I'm mad Mar 11 21:16:07 just curious i guess Mar 11 21:16:13 I had this long email typed up Mar 11 21:16:20 and I saved it as a draft Mar 11 21:16:31 but now it's not there!! :k Mar 11 21:16:39 patrick... my emails wont even show up when i open them, idk whats wrong. Mar 11 21:16:56 jomama: black box? Mar 11 21:17:15 no, they open but are all blank Mar 11 21:17:21 doesnt load the msg. Mar 11 21:17:36 try backing out and going back into the email Mar 11 21:17:43 that sometimes works for me Mar 11 21:18:29 yea... doesnt here, removing email patches to see if thats it Mar 11 21:20:06 weird Mar 11 21:20:31 it just let me send it when I started as a new email insted of replying... Mar 11 21:21:13 In the make file does the boot loga have to be a tga? Mar 11 21:21:26 the make file for meta doctor that is Mar 11 21:21:49 hello everyne Mar 11 21:22:18 hay fudge Mar 11 21:22:42 are you experiencing any icon glitches n 2.1? Mar 11 21:22:57 not really Mar 11 21:23:01 not so far Mar 11 21:23:18 http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh274/RobertR_93/photos-temp-1jpg-1.jpg?t=1299878480 Mar 11 21:23:18 even have sprint nav and amazon mp3 working Mar 11 21:23:42 missing an icon, i can still tap the area and it will launch the calender Mar 11 21:24:50 would be nice to see a solution to the PRL update though Mar 11 21:25:09 somebody : where did u get the nav ipk ? Mar 11 21:27:10 i'm trying to find the post hold on... Mar 11 21:27:16 k Mar 11 21:27:41 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/276961-anyone-get-sprint-nav-working-2-1-0-a.html Mar 11 21:28:21 thanks man. Mar 11 21:32:47 hi there Mar 11 21:33:20 hay Mar 11 21:34:26 time to wash the car Mar 11 21:46:15 pre2 reassembled, running meta-doctor... Mar 11 21:48:07 for what? Mar 11 21:48:10 pre2 on sprint? Mar 11 21:48:33 yep, fingers crossed Mar 11 21:51:01 how hard has it been this far? Mar 11 21:51:11 I'm thinking of doing it if I get a pre2 Mar 11 21:52:34 pre- reassembled Mar 11 21:52:43 pain in the a** Mar 11 21:52:51 PatrickC: Adam says that there's been a lot of devs asking for Pre2's, but that I'm in line :) Mar 11 21:53:00 keyboard top clips are the worst Mar 11 21:53:17 No, the mirror is the worst ;) Mar 11 21:53:36 no, that's the image in the mirror for your case ;) Mar 11 21:53:41 rwhitby: yeah. the first time. after that, it was pretty easy Mar 11 21:54:05 hey! hehehe ... too good the mirror was fairly dirty :P Mar 11 21:54:15 I do NOT power up the pre2 until the doctor is ready, right? Mar 11 21:56:31 hardest part is accessing screws behind slider mechanism Mar 11 21:57:19 fudge: You just lift the FCC label a bit :) Mar 11 21:58:50 lol Mar 11 21:58:59 wish someone could have told me that a month ago Mar 11 21:59:01 :P Mar 11 21:59:21 i was wedging the screw driver in between the tracks Mar 11 21:59:53 doctor is running Mar 11 22:01:00 PatrickC-Away: I would suggest getting a CHEAP pre- from ebay to practice disassembly and reassembly Mar 11 22:02:08 I probably will Mar 11 22:03:35 Hey... did they take the minimized cards out of 2.1? Mar 11 22:03:43 Never noticed til now Mar 11 22:03:59 never really used that feature :P Mar 11 22:04:04 * fudge checks Mar 11 22:04:06