**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 19 02:59:56 2011 Mar 19 03:03:13 interesting... it seems to be working... now "making" the met-doctor 2.1.0 Mar 19 03:04:00 ls Mar 19 03:04:03 oops Mar 19 03:06:41 anyone knwo of a good adventure game Mar 19 03:06:47 like hl2 and portal Mar 19 03:07:01 woops Mar 19 03:07:07 wrong irc -_- Mar 19 03:07:26 can somebody just upload me a att 2.1 doctor Mar 19 03:07:42 illegal Mar 19 03:07:43 joeb_, isn't that like...illegal? Mar 19 03:08:03 ka6sox-farfarawa- didn't know that then don't then lol Mar 19 03:08:31 why cant you make one joeb_? Mar 19 03:08:59 doctor is open and phone is detected. now showing big hairy usb icon and... drumroll please!!! IT'S WORKING!!! Mar 19 03:09:08 dumbledore_- some reason it just won't work .. im on ubuntu 10.10 running kde .. its the erro at the end dumbledore_ Mar 19 03:09:47 wierd Mar 19 03:09:50 yea Mar 19 03:09:55 lets see...how long have you been trying on linux egadgetguy? Mar 19 03:09:59 maybe 20 minutes? Mar 19 03:10:02 i think i found something with the script if this works Mar 19 03:10:06 are you using it from a USB or did you use the installer Mar 19 03:10:10 and 2+hrs on W7 with tons of FAIL. Mar 19 03:10:24 to install linux* Mar 19 03:10:25 two days @ka6sox Mar 19 03:10:32 total ~ 6 hours Mar 19 03:10:49 sigh...how much today? Mar 19 03:10:55 after ~20 hours wasted in w7 Mar 19 03:11:13 * ka6sox-farfarawa facepalms Mar 19 03:11:21 30-40 min tonight. about 2 hours earlier Mar 19 03:11:57 error make[1]: *** [downloads/webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar] Error yet in the ./scripts/meta-att-preplus-2.1.0 script the 2.1 is downloading is webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar totally diff Mar 19 03:12:46 so error occurs when downloading files? Mar 19 03:13:04 Joeb... I got it.. maybe you can too Mar 19 03:13:04 nope Mar 19 03:13:17 dumbledore_- nope it downloads both of them .. its right at the end Mar 19 03:13:57 hmm... Mar 19 03:14:07 dumbledore_- this is my download a to z http://pastie.org/1688399 Mar 19 03:14:48 Just rename what was downloaded as webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar Mar 19 03:15:19 SineOt- but then after i do that do i have to manually make DEVICE=preplus all-wr .. i thought it was suppose to do it all itself ? Mar 19 03:15:34 nah, don't think so Mar 19 03:15:36 just rerun it Mar 19 03:15:39 hmm Mar 19 03:15:41 not really Mar 19 03:15:42 ok Mar 19 03:15:46 not yet joeb_ Mar 19 03:16:09 you'll have to delete the lines in the script so it wont redownload the doctor you just renamed Mar 19 03:16:09 a while back it did .. oh well Mar 19 03:16:26 ? Mar 19 03:16:30 dumbledore_- the makefile ? Mar 19 03:16:49 you can just edit the script instead of using the makefile way Mar 19 03:16:58 yea im using script Mar 19 03:17:18 dumbledore_- just commet them out ? Mar 19 03:17:19 joeb - why you putting the downloaded file in /build/... Mar 19 03:17:26 yeah Mar 19 03:17:26 im not Mar 19 03:17:36 egadgetguy- http://pastie.org/1688399 < -- this is a walk thru Mar 19 03:17:42 its from a to z im doig it right Mar 19 03:18:09 mkdir -p build/preplus-p101eww-att-1.4.5 cp downloads/webosdoctorp101ewwatt-1.4.5.jar build/preplus-p101eww-att-1.4.5/webosdoctorp101ewwatt-1.4.5.jar ( cd build/preplus-p101eww-att-1.4.5 ; \ Mar 19 03:18:13 ??? Mar 19 03:18:31 egadgetguy- it does it by itself Mar 19 03:18:40 egadgetguy- that for me ? Mar 19 03:18:45 oh. so that's the script. Mar 19 03:18:47 thats not the error i get at the end Mar 19 03:19:09 mkdir -p downloads Mar 19 03:19:09 Please download the correct version of the webOS Doctor .jar file Mar 19 03:19:10 and then move it to downloads/webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar (i.e. the downloads directory that was just created under the current directory). Mar 19 03:19:10 make: *** [downloads/webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar] Error 1 Mar 19 03:19:10 joeb@joeb:~/Palm_stuff/meta-doctor$ Mar 19 03:19:32 oops, seems I broke Novacomd somehow Mar 19 03:19:36 anyone have any ideas on how to fix it? Mar 19 03:20:24 SineOt, reboot? Mar 19 03:22:11 that was it .. thanks all .. i had to rename the downloads .jar and uncomment so it didn't download again Mar 19 03:22:17 somebody should put that on the wiki Mar 19 03:22:29 SineOt- it fix it Mar 19 03:22:30 Joeb... did you try running the met-doctored jar file manually? did it make it? Mar 19 03:22:45 i wont have to i think .. its building it Mar 19 03:23:26 Unable to access jarfile build/meta-att-preplus-2.1.0/webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar Mar 19 03:23:28 lmao Mar 19 03:23:31 let me go manually do it Mar 19 03:23:44 SineOt- mv webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar Mar 19 03:23:47 that fixed it Mar 19 03:23:56 i had to go to downloads and rename it Mar 19 03:24:05 then uncomment the script so it stops downloading the samef ile Mar 19 03:25:12 dumbledore_- you should put that on the wiki in case somebody gets that Mar 19 03:25:35 omg i got an error Mar 19 03:25:46 your device is not compatable with this version of webos doctor Mar 19 03:26:10 lol Mar 19 03:26:13 hehe Mar 19 03:26:16 let me try something else Mar 19 03:26:20 hmm... Mar 19 03:26:26 since i renamed it i got 3 meta-doctor folders Mar 19 03:26:39 joeb@joeb:~/Palm_stuff/meta-doctor/build$ ls Mar 19 03:26:39 meta-att-preplus-2.1.0 preplus-p101eww-att-1.4.5 preplus-p101ueu-wr-2.1.0 Mar 19 03:26:48 clear out the builds folder and start new Mar 19 03:26:54 keep the downloads folder Mar 19 03:27:27 the one. meta-... is the one that goes on the phone Mar 19 03:27:39 w00t firmeware icon on pre Mar 19 03:27:41 :D Mar 19 03:27:52 :3 Mar 19 03:28:03 wow Mar 19 03:28:09 its time to retire! Mar 19 03:28:52 dumbledore_- that uncommet helped a lot Mar 19 03:29:22 you're welcome :3 Mar 19 03:29:27 hello :) Mar 19 03:29:29 you should put it on wiki Mar 19 03:29:36 hey PatrickC_Pre1 Mar 19 03:29:42 joeb_ did you get it to work? Mar 19 03:29:47 PatrickC_Pre1- yes finally Mar 19 03:29:52 yay Mar 19 03:29:55 PatrickC_Pre1- extra steps that where not on wiki Mar 19 03:29:55 i shall do so joeb_ Mar 19 03:30:15 man this check gave me this touchstone and it is not working Mar 19 03:30:20 s/check/chick/ Mar 19 03:30:21 i want to remove the voice dial app Mar 19 03:30:22 joeb_ meant: man this chick gave me this touchstone and it is not working Mar 19 03:31:20 i plug usb into wall .. i plug it into the touchstone .. i put pre on top .. no dice .. no charging or nothing Mar 19 03:31:41 anyone else having a problem where voice dial just pops up automatically for no reason Mar 19 03:31:54 * joeb_ never uses voice dial Mar 19 03:31:56 joeb_: busted touchstone maybe Mar 19 03:32:03 no - I am not. Mar 19 03:32:05 dumbledore_- yea i need to find if it has warranty Mar 19 03:32:17 yeah Mar 19 03:32:25 i dont use voice dial either Mar 19 03:32:27 any interested in a srpint pre with 2.1.0 already on it? Mar 19 03:32:35 already haz one :3 Mar 19 03:32:35 50% Mar 19 03:32:36 sprint Mar 19 03:32:57 i got 2 pres for under $20 total Mar 19 03:33:00 :3 Mar 19 03:33:12 nice .. dumbledore_ it had to be the area you are living in Mar 19 03:33:22 or did you get them from ebay dumbledore_ Mar 19 03:33:22 my brother let me play with it, he has an EVO and doesn't need it any more, I don't either... Mar 19 03:33:27 ebay :3 Mar 19 03:33:37 f ebay .. they suck at shipping Mar 19 03:33:39 one is in peices, the other is sitting on my belly Mar 19 03:34:23 the pre- I have is in great shape Mar 19 03:34:42 I just don't need it. sprint sucks in my area. Mar 19 03:35:19 how much are you asking for it (including shipping) Mar 19 03:36:40 just for giggles .. when you boot your pre and it shows the intenrals pengiun .. where is that in the doctor .. what directory ? Mar 19 03:38:15 iirc, in webos.tar Mar 19 03:38:18 not sure Mar 19 03:38:34 another question .. if im going to be overclocking at 1ghz do i need compache ? Mar 19 03:38:57 i overclocked to 1ghz with uberkernel Mar 19 03:39:12 lemme check compcache Mar 19 03:39:17 yes but if i overclock it wil be useless to use compache right ? Mar 19 03:39:36 not too sure Mar 19 03:40:07 OK so by accident I installed 1.4.5 on my + over 1.4.5 Mar 19 03:40:15 ... Mar 19 03:40:41 so I went back and "did the ./scripts thing and got the same error as Joeb Mar 19 03:40:58 egadgetguy- at the end where it tells you to rename or soemthing ? Mar 19 03:41:05 @joeb... Ya... I know Mar 19 03:41:11 don't rub it in Mar 19 03:41:14 lol Mar 19 03:41:23 yep Mar 19 03:41:26 egadgetguy- Mar 19 03:41:34 go to downloads and rename your jar file Mar 19 03:41:39 yes - at the end.. Mar 19 03:41:43 mv webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar Mar 19 03:41:45 which? Mar 19 03:42:11 egadgetguy- go to downloads Mar 19 03:42:14 what do you see in there ? Mar 19 03:44:28 OK - now what! Mar 19 03:44:35 did you rename it ? Mar 19 03:44:42 yes Mar 19 03:44:43 ok Mar 19 03:44:49 and? Mar 19 03:44:50 go back to your scripts dir Mar 19 03:45:07 meta-doctor/scripts$ Mar 19 03:45:11 go to that dir Mar 19 03:45:20 go on Mar 19 03:45:21 then nano meta-your-caerrir-here Mar 19 03:45:36 so in my case nano meta-att-preplus-2.1.0 Mar 19 03:46:03 nano-meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0? Mar 19 03:46:10 yes Mar 19 03:46:15 it should open iup Mar 19 03:46:22 s/iup/up/ Mar 19 03:46:22 joeb_ meant: it should open up Mar 19 03:47:04 egadgetguy- look for W145_JAR_URL= and W210_JAR_URL= Mar 19 03:47:07 ok Mar 19 03:47:12 put a # in front of it Mar 19 03:47:22 # W210_JAR_URL= Mar 19 03:47:51 ok Mar 19 03:47:57 ? Mar 19 03:48:01 save? Mar 19 03:48:05 yes Mar 19 03:48:09 ctrl + x Mar 19 03:48:10 y Mar 19 03:48:13 enter Mar 19 03:48:14 now Mar 19 03:48:21 type cd .. Mar 19 03:48:31 you should be in your meta-doctor dir Mar 19 03:48:53 ok Mar 19 03:48:58 type Mar 19 03:49:00 make clobber Mar 19 03:49:13 it will do rm -rf build Mar 19 03:49:17 ok Mar 19 03:49:29 ./scripts... Mar 19 03:49:30 ? Mar 19 03:49:30 nwo do your script again Mar 19 03:49:31 yep Mar 19 03:49:38 ./scripts/meta-verisoin whatever Mar 19 03:49:54 it will bypass the downlaod since you did it already and start building it Mar 19 03:50:06 thanks to SineOt and dumbledore_ :D Mar 19 03:50:43 FAILED Mar 19 03:50:53 whats the error Mar 19 03:51:25 cp: cannot stat `build/preplus-p101ueude-wr-2.1.0/resources/webOS.tar': No such file or directory Mar 19 03:51:53 didn't clobber kill the file I had just renamed? Mar 19 03:57:20 I guess not Mar 19 03:58:43 Can I ask why this commenting step is needed in linux but not in w7 Mar 19 04:07:14 hello??? Mar 19 04:07:51 egadgetguy, you can ask but we may not know. Mar 19 04:08:14 so - do I comment BOTH lines? Mar 19 04:12:57 cp: cannot stat `build/preplus-p101ueude-wr-2.1.0/resources/webOS.tar': No such file or directory tar: ./castlecdmafw.tar: Not found in archive tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors Mar 19 04:20:03 woot Mar 19 04:20:52 s/woot/w00t/ wire :) Mar 19 04:21:00 late Mar 19 04:28:11 there any issues installing uberkernel ? Mar 19 04:29:07 I think its saying my kernel is in compatable Mar 19 04:29:52 joebpre, not enough information to tell what problem you are having Mar 19 04:30:06 ... Mar 19 04:31:23 what model, what version of the OS, what kernel is currently installed. Mar 19 04:31:42 I'm trying to install uberkernel ... I'm getting errors ... the ipkg log says my kernel is in compatible in red Mar 19 04:32:39 I'd like to request inclusion of isoFS.ko and udfFS.ko in uberkernel - via the CONFIG_ISO9660_FS and CONFIG_UDF_FS .config options. The reason is to allow the usb mass storage service to present ISO images. Mar 19 04:33:01 Error454, feel free to add that. Mar 19 04:33:31 joebpre, you still haven't given me enough information to help you... Mar 19 04:33:49 you are saying "I have a flower here...what color is it?" Mar 19 04:33:51 ka6sox-farfarawa: How do I contribute that? It's uncommenting 2 lines in a .config file. Mar 19 04:33:53 and I can't see it. Mar 19 04:34:21 Error454, git.webos-internals.org in the kernel's section Mar 19 04:34:28 start there and create a patch. Mar 19 04:34:33 huh Mar 19 04:34:40 ka6sox-farfarawa: will do Mar 19 04:35:25 ka6sox-farfarawa: I'm trying to install uberkernel from prepared .. it errors out Mar 19 04:35:30 joebpre, I need to know what model of pre, what version of the OS you are running, and what kernel you currently have installed. Mar 19 04:35:44 oh Mar 19 04:35:56 I think I need testing feed Mar 19 04:37:06 Error454, let us know here when you have a patch or put it someplace we can see it after you build/install/test it on your device... Mar 19 04:38:52 ka6sox-farfarawa: Ok Mar 19 04:42:16 I'm a little confused about patching. Should I be creating patches against the stock kernel, kernel + palm patches or kernel + palm + webosinternals? Mar 19 04:45:09 what is the equivalent of "##786#" on a GSM phone? Mar 19 04:48:51 after I doctored to 2.1, some apps didn't come back (and I didn't really want them to) but they still show up in the browser as "downloading" Mar 19 04:49:03 when I go to software manager, they aren't there Mar 19 04:50:00 Anyone have any ideas? Mar 19 04:50:23 PatrickC_Pre2, if you come here and ask another question WITHOUT doing your own research first I suspect that NOBODY will answer you. Mar 19 04:50:50 that question has been asked and answered at least 100x on the net Mar 19 04:51:11 we aren't your library because you are too lazy to look. Mar 19 04:51:18 Ok Mar 19 04:51:39 I'm just trying to figure out what to put into google to described it... Mar 19 04:52:44 Error454, normally we patch against stock + palm for a particular source tree. Mar 19 04:52:56 "webos app catalog stuck stalled download" Mar 19 04:53:08 Ok Mar 19 04:53:11 ka6sox-farfarawa: Ok, I'll do that Mar 19 04:53:33 But in the software manager they don't show up.. Like I never downloaded them... Mar 19 04:56:41 SineOt, who was that for? Mar 19 04:57:49 ka6sox-farfarawa: someone who can't figure out what to put in google to try to find a problem Mar 19 04:58:18 kk Mar 19 05:01:07 ka6sox-farfarawa: sorry I haven't forgot about you .. I'm on 2.1 att pre plus I think I'm on defualt 2.1 kernel .. I can't even install regular palm kernel from prepared let alone uberkernel Mar 19 05:01:50 What are you tryin to do joebpre? Mar 19 05:02:29 okay joebpre np...let me know when you know. Mar 19 05:13:53 I'm trying to overclock / install you uberkernel and govnah Mar 19 05:14:28 I take it you got the pre :) Mar 19 05:14:35 What was it? Pre+/pre2? Mar 19 05:14:51 joebpre, what version of preware are you using? Mar 19 05:17:02 let me look Mar 19 05:17:26 1.5.7 Mar 19 05:17:55 okay.../me looks in the feeds. Mar 19 05:18:21 joebpre, you mentioned the "testing" feeds...do you have them? Mar 19 05:18:53 I'm off to bed Mar 19 05:18:56 Night all Mar 19 05:19:53 I should .. dont I need just the keenel testing feeds ? Mar 19 05:20:29 * ka6sox-farfarawa points joebpre to the wiki for that answer...he dunnos. Mar 19 05:23:00 let me put on testing feeds .. I dont have them Mar 19 05:23:07 kk Mar 19 05:38:57 joebpre, you having any luck? Mar 19 05:40:52 * ka6sox-farfarawa needs to run out for 20mins before things close... Mar 19 05:43:26 Thanks everyone. I finally got it. 2.1.0 on both my phones now. Mar 19 05:43:40 egadgetguy, excellent... Mar 19 05:43:52 bbiaf Mar 19 06:30:04 how was the party? Mar 19 06:35:31 party? Mar 19 06:35:37 did I miss a party? Mar 19 06:35:53 rwhitby was out with palm folk Mar 19 06:36:12 twas a good night. Mar 19 06:36:17 * oil assumed the removal of -pre meant he was back at his laptop Mar 19 06:36:20 * oil was correct! Mar 19 06:36:22 yup Mar 19 06:36:42 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/wIRC.git;a=blob;f=app/models/help.js;h=bf2893a3e1a293b44041bc321f4e08b0e85fe5f5;hb=HEAD Mar 19 06:36:49 now i just need to find someone to populate that for me :) Mar 19 06:37:10 * halfhalo gives oil a mirror Mar 19 06:37:14 damnet Mar 19 06:37:15 lol Mar 19 06:38:29 rwhitby: who did the ones for govnah? Mar 19 06:38:37 oil: wusaint Mar 19 06:38:41 thats right Mar 19 06:38:52 he'll do wIRC too, I'm sure Mar 19 06:39:05 i just added the toggle to like every form scene Mar 19 06:39:06 haha Mar 19 06:39:52 So I didn't get to go inside Palm at all. Public areas only :( Mar 19 06:39:59 lol Mar 19 06:39:59 booo Mar 19 06:40:06 they'd be checkin your pockets as you leave for sure Mar 19 06:40:07 haha Mar 19 06:40:24 * halfhalo had lockpicks the first devdays Mar 19 06:41:38 had left em in my backpack, then found out I had em while standing in the palm lobby Mar 19 06:42:37 * oil doesn't own a lockpick kit Mar 19 06:42:57 * halfhalo got one to pop open the doors inside his house when they lock themselves Mar 19 06:43:17 much easier than using a screwdriver Mar 19 06:44:23 * halfhalo will bbl. Sleep now to study tomorrow Mar 19 06:44:53 Woohoo! Feb app payment. Mar 19 06:44:57 and by "study" you mean "rwite wirc help" Mar 19 06:45:08 except spelled correctly Mar 19 06:45:11 see why i can't write it? Mar 19 06:45:39 * ka6sox-farfarawa senses a FRY's Expedition! Mar 19 06:51:37 * halfhalo found a pop tart so is omnomnoming first Mar 19 06:51:39 oh, forgot i stoped following wusaint because of too much 4square spam Mar 19 06:52:07 And every day is a good day for a frys trip! Mar 19 06:54:20 * halfhalo never goes after he gets monies to frys tho... He always spends it all there Mar 19 07:02:10 * oil asked wusaint nicely in a DM :) Mar 19 07:02:22 and i counted, there is 76 of them, heh Mar 19 07:02:36 help areas that is, not DMs Mar 19 07:03:05 Sure Mar 19 07:03:14 only 3 dms Mar 19 07:03:17 * halfhalo really goes sleep now Mar 19 07:03:19 since i was limited to 140 characters Mar 19 07:04:11 dm? Mar 19 07:06:42 direct message Mar 19 07:06:47 its twitters version of a private message Mar 19 07:38:27 Hi everyone Mar 19 08:13:54 Ok, Greg Roll's version 3.0 plugins for messaging are up on Preware, downloading now :D Mar 19 08:23:51 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/att-tethering/ Mar 19 08:30:53 hi to anyone who is up Mar 19 08:53:39 hi Mar 19 08:53:57 Boopop, what messaging plugins have you got running? Mar 19 08:54:10 Just WLM Mar 19 08:54:18 That's all I use really Mar 19 08:54:19 might try fb Mar 19 08:54:42 nice, I asume you didn't use TLS for wlm Mar 19 08:54:52 I left the settings as they were Mar 19 08:55:23 ok, trying again... Mar 19 08:55:25 I assumed Greg knows best so far as the seetings were concerned so I left them :P Mar 19 08:55:36 settings* Mar 19 08:56:03 What do you mean by TLS? Mar 19 08:59:16 NuttyBunny: Helloo :P Mar 19 08:59:39 Hmm, my contacts don't seem to appear for fbchat =/ Mar 19 09:00:06 mmm... weird... Mar 19 09:00:23 It says I've signed in but nothing else appears other than WLM contacts Mar 19 09:00:23 TLS is an encrypted protocol, but I don't thing Microsoft uses it Mar 19 09:00:40 lemme try Mar 19 09:00:57 I need to go get some milk! Mar 19 09:01:00 be back in 10 Mar 19 09:01:04 maybe 15 Mar 19 09:01:08 never timed how long it takes xD Mar 19 09:01:12 Be back soon :P Mar 19 09:01:43 hehehe.. ok Mar 19 09:01:57 3am over here... I have to wake up in 3 hours... Mar 19 09:02:17 but the neighbors party is soooo loud (and the bastards didn't even invite me) hehehe Mar 19 09:06:27 brb, reboot Mar 19 09:23:25 Baack Mar 19 09:23:34 any luck with fb chat NuttyBunny_? Mar 19 09:24:29 No, I'm still trying to make WLM work :( Mar 19 09:24:51 eek =/ Mar 19 09:25:09 I signed in and out a few times and it worked out any problems Mar 19 09:25:14 I assume you've already done that though Mar 19 09:29:14 Is there a way to get stuff like these IM protocols built into other smartphone OSs or is this something I can continue to brag about? xD Mar 19 09:31:23 They may have IM+ or other clients, but you can use synergy to have all your contacts linked to their messaging accounts, and show your friends how your phone displays their im status in their contacts card, email, etc :) Mar 19 09:31:40 but we trully need pingchat and whatsapp :S Mar 19 09:31:55 I'd like kik Mar 19 09:32:00 all my friend with android use it >.< Mar 19 09:33:50 kik also, you're right Mar 19 09:34:26 Although I've heard bad things about kik's privacy Mar 19 09:35:26 nothing beats irc :) Mar 19 09:36:10 oil is UberHappy with the announcement of hybrid apps submission in the catalog :) Mar 19 09:37:48 "9 tablets in the morning is toooo much blurgh" Mar 19 09:37:58 "Why r u taking 9 tablets :-/" Mar 19 09:38:01 "Cus I'm hungry and got no food lol " Mar 19 09:38:08 Think that might be one for fbfail :S Mar 19 09:39:18 Time for some uncharted 2, good luck with WLM NuttyBunny Mar 19 09:41:28 Thanks! Mar 19 09:41:42 At least gtalk worked after enabling TLS and accept bad cert Mar 19 09:43:29 NuttyBunny: i am Mar 19 09:43:38 * oil is prepping wirc Mar 19 09:59:59 uh.. Boopop has gone and I've managed to log into facebook over jabber and my Pre did synergy magic on my contacts.. :) Mar 19 10:23:12 Boopop: check Precentral Mar 19 10:23:46 rgr Mar 19 10:48:21 * NuttyBunny goes to sleep (just 1 hour? nice!) Mar 19 13:59:45 thanks to rwhitby and Leathal for loging everything in IRC. Mar 19 14:00:07 That saved my day today while migrating to my Pre2 Mar 19 14:00:29 I had problems with the Palm backup server Mar 19 14:00:34 01:01.37 Leathal okay so if anyone else is having troubles using their old profile with the 2.1 metadoc, redoctor to 1.4.5, sign in to your profile, disable palm backup and hit delete when it asks Mar 19 14:00:38 01:01.44 Leathal redoctor to 2.1 and you're golden Mar 19 14:00:44 that was the solution Mar 19 15:50:16 Nuttybunny: ping Mar 19 15:50:19 rwhitby: ping Mar 19 15:50:40 pong Mar 19 15:50:59 I have a used Pre- w/o comms board that I don't need... Mar 19 15:51:39 I paid $8.50 plus shipping for it... Mar 19 15:52:10 does it still have the usb cover? ;) Mar 19 15:53:07 yes. The case has a chunk missing from the top left corner, but otherwise it's physically good Mar 19 15:53:48 sounds nice, how much are you asking for it? the same 8.50? Mar 19 15:54:17 whatever it costs to ship Mar 19 15:54:17 (it doesn't have the comms board anymore) ;)... and the shipping to Mexico won't be as cheap :( Mar 19 15:54:22 ah, ok... Mar 19 15:54:26 I got my $8.50 out of it Mar 19 15:54:51 email me an address and I'll get it underway Mar 19 15:55:38 oook!.. Mar 19 15:57:20 gmail, right? sent Mar 19 15:58:13 I told my gf about the fate of the Pre and she just gave me that stare... "you know I love that phone, I'm just waiting for pingchat and whatsapp for it".. Mar 19 15:59:03 hey dumbledore_ Mar 19 16:07:37 hi Nuttybunny Mar 19 16:07:57 im thinking of downgrading back to 1.4.5 Mar 19 16:08:05 Pre - ? Mar 19 16:08:28 yeah, but its the patches that make me want to go back to 1.4.5 Mar 19 16:08:42 otherwise the pre flys on 2.1 Mar 19 16:08:47 why? what patches do you need? the launcher patches?? Mar 19 16:09:09 lol nah. the facebook chat patch and no pause on video minimize patch Mar 19 16:09:36 why do you want a facebook chat patch when you have THIS!! http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/278796-synergy-messaging-plugins-webos-2-x.html#post2914013 Mar 19 16:10:00 -_- Mar 19 16:10:07 i wish someone would have pointed that to me earlier Mar 19 16:10:09 <3 Mar 19 16:10:14 thank you Nuttybunny :D Mar 19 16:10:27 well, if you were in IRC all night like me you should've found out Mar 19 16:10:42 Greg posted it at 2 am CST Mar 19 16:10:45 lol Mar 19 16:10:57 and I went to bed at 4:45 am.. hehehe Mar 19 16:11:05 i was pooped out from the city. i went to sleep like at 11pm Mar 19 16:11:08 lol Mar 19 16:12:07 and... I think I saw the no pause on video patch for 2.0.1, why don't you browse the webosinternals patch server and look for the ipk and try to apply it to your Pre? Mar 19 16:12:23 will try it Mar 19 16:12:45 i'll love you forever if this works :D Mar 19 16:12:54 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/2.0.1/org.webosinternals.patches.video-player-no-pause-of-video-on-screen-change_2.0.1-0_all.ipk Mar 19 16:13:20 there, it's for 2.0.1, I don't know if it will work on 2.1, but you can give it a shot Mar 19 16:14:18 Damn Pidgin, calls everyone "nickname", and Palm calls the contacts by "name", I think that's the reason the contacts don't merge with Greg's 3.0 plugins Mar 19 16:17:02 really new messaging plugins for 2.xxx!!! Mar 19 16:17:11 Oh, yeah! Mar 19 16:17:45 so everyone appears as Nickname on the buddy list, Nuttybunny? Mar 19 16:17:54 downloading now Mar 19 16:18:12 hmm... Mar 19 16:18:19 the rundown: Office Communicator works fine, and merges contacts. Gtalk works and merges contacts, Facebook Chat works for some, doesn't for others, Jabber works but doesn't merge contacts, as Facebook Chat, and MSN works for some, not for me :( Mar 19 16:19:05 how is it available for the pixi? Mar 19 16:19:08 dumbledore_: Well, no, they appear with their names, for example, fb and fb over jabber appear at first as numbers, but slowly synergy links them to their names Mar 19 16:19:19 oh Mar 19 16:19:21 nice Mar 19 16:19:58 Pixi... mmm... I don't think it will work, uses too many 2.x things, maybe Greg just used a generic script to create the three ipks Mar 19 16:20:09 in fact, in the sources I only see emu and pre versions :( Mar 19 16:21:13 Thanks haeffb :D Mar 19 16:22:41 you're welcome. just "paying it forward" Mar 19 16:22:44 i see pixi link Mar 19 16:22:44 lol Mar 19 16:22:57 http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl6bbl/MessagingPlugins/org.webosinternals.messaging_3.0.1_armv6.ipk Mar 19 16:23:27 yeah, it may install, but it won't work... at least I don't think so Mar 19 16:23:54 i have a pixi laying around. i'll try it later and see Mar 19 16:24:46 oh, my... the ages of really fast battery drain are returning ;) hehehe... having three or four services connected won't be good for my batt Mar 19 16:25:19 lol Mar 19 16:25:26 the chat is draining battery? Mar 19 16:25:57 try signing in to gtalk, and see the drain, and now imagine other three services... Mar 19 16:26:18 wow... wont bet good at all :/ Mar 19 16:29:38 So, the plugins are going to be added to Preware, excellent!! :D (since it's only one file it was expected) Mar 19 16:40:27 wow Mar 19 16:40:31 i jizzed my pants Mar 19 16:40:39 * dumbledore_ <3s webos 2.1 Mar 19 16:46:00 jabber will slowly get facebook chat names? Mar 19 16:46:07 yep Mar 19 16:46:31 but you'll notice the names get repeated in the contacts app, it's not merging them correctly Mar 19 16:47:04 i see Mar 19 16:49:09 im having problems with the facebook chat option. keeps saying my password is incorrect Mar 19 16:49:18 Nuttybunny: yeah, Greg has been waiting for 2.x so that the plugins could use the new features and be implemented a lot more cleanly. Mar 19 16:50:12 haeffb: hi Mar 19 16:50:16 rwhitby: hell, talk about cleanliness, it's great!! :D there are a couple of bugs here and there, but the work he put in this is massive Mar 19 16:50:33 does jabber also download the avatar? Mar 19 16:50:52 ah, dunno, I didn't try it Mar 19 16:51:00 Nuttybunny: yeah, Greg is awesome. Mar 19 16:51:02 lol Mar 19 16:51:10 he's got pidgin under his command :) Mar 19 16:54:27 i think i figured out why facebook isnt working Mar 19 16:54:37 Nuttybunny: the facebook option isnt working for you? Mar 19 16:55:02 no, the debugs bark about having no permissions Mar 19 16:55:09 oh Mar 19 16:55:45 i was having a problem with logging in, throws an error saying "incorrect username and password" Mar 19 16:55:51 I'm playing with facebook over jabber (as I always have) Mar 19 16:56:07 mmm... are you using your email or your username? Mar 19 16:56:11 i just used my email that i used to sign into facebook with and my password Mar 19 16:56:26 didnt use the xxxxx@chat.facebook.com username Mar 19 16:57:21 weird, it's supposed to work Mar 19 16:57:38 you may be able to debug it and see what's wrong Mar 19 16:57:46 nah, i got it to work :3 Mar 19 16:58:22 what was it? Mar 19 16:59:03 had to use my normal email address (xxxx@aol.com) as my user name Mar 19 16:59:32 now im just waiting for the buddylist to come in Mar 19 16:59:46 ah, yeah, that's what the help says :) Mar 19 16:59:56 lol Mar 19 17:00:02 you'll see tons of numbers@chat.facebook.com Mar 19 17:00:17 you do have your facebook account linked to your contacts, right? Mar 19 17:00:22 yup Mar 19 17:00:47 then it should work... as I said, works for some, doesn't for others like me :( Mar 19 17:01:03 lol i think im stuck in the middle Mar 19 17:01:07 and if you go to the contacts app you'll see dupes Mar 19 17:01:16 it signs in, but none of my buddies show up in the buddy list Mar 19 17:01:40 looks like im gonna stick with jabber Mar 19 17:01:40 ah, yes, sorry, that was the bug :D hahahahaha Mar 19 17:01:45 lol Mar 19 17:01:50 rofl Mar 19 17:01:59 sorry, it was 4am Mar 19 17:02:04 lol its ok Mar 19 17:02:15 didnt greg say he found the bug? Mar 19 17:02:22 yep Mar 19 17:03:39 awesome. i'll stick with jabber till he updates it :D Mar 19 17:04:56 yeah, me too, I'm just not in the mood to set up a dev environment here just to change one line on a file and recompile everything ;) Mar 19 17:05:14 ah, 2 lines Mar 19 17:05:42 lol Mar 19 17:11:24 rwhitby: ready to go? Mar 19 17:11:37 haeffb: yep, what are we doing again? Mar 19 17:12:03 you wanted some testing of doctors on a frankenPre ? Mar 19 17:13:56 ah, right. Mar 19 17:14:38 we need to doctor using the script, and then let it OTA update, and then doctor using the Verizon unmodified doctor, and then let it OTA update, and see what happens for each. Mar 19 17:16:08 have done the first two, using script from last weekend...has it changed? Mar 19 17:16:38 "first two" === frankenPre script and OTA Mar 19 17:16:57 that is it's current status Mar 19 17:18:06 ok, that's good. Mar 19 17:18:28 I need the output of "ipkg list" on that device first before you doctor it. Mar 19 17:18:34 sorry, "ipkg list_installed" Mar 19 17:19:50 can I use novaterm? Mar 19 17:19:59 to get that? Mar 19 17:22:28 yep Mar 19 17:23:13 ok, should have that on the usb partition Mar 19 17:23:55 email to me first Mar 19 17:26:40 moved to PM Mar 19 17:28:10 haeffb: ok, so that one has com.palm.app.stk as expected. Can you confirm that the SIM toolkit was *not* present before OTA update, but *was* present afterwards? Mar 19 17:28:29 confirm Mar 19 17:28:37 at least the icon was not there... Mar 19 17:28:51 good, that's what I expect. Mar 19 17:29:07 this is the verizon 2.0.1 doctor, correct? Mar 19 17:29:23 yep Mar 19 17:29:30 93% Mar 19 17:29:44 want to see if it even OTA updates Mar 19 17:30:06 and I will be on Sprint network... ? Mar 19 17:30:29 oh, this is a dev device, right? Mar 19 17:30:43 dev device with Sprint comms board Mar 19 17:31:02 not what you want? Mar 19 17:31:07 yes Mar 19 17:31:47 I will be able to redoctor with my sprintfrankenpre doctor afterwards...? Mar 19 17:31:55 it's just that I personally don't know about the verizon doctor on sprint comms - I've heard all good reports, but obviously not from personal experience. Mar 19 17:32:20 worst case would be re-activation required with Sprint I guess. Mar 19 17:33:45 hmmm...I don't have the MSL Mar 19 17:34:21 phone is not currently activated on Sprint. Has been, but not right now. Mar 19 17:34:44 ok, shouldn't be any worse then Mar 19 17:35:02 but I can't OTA update w/o being activated Mar 19 17:35:21 * rwhitby is currently building WIDK from scratch and moving anything that doesn't build into nonworking. Mar 19 17:35:38 with unmodified Verizon doctor Mar 19 17:35:49 so, not sure where I'm going with this... Mar 19 17:36:48 hmm Mar 19 17:37:04 oh, I have a new script for that Mar 19 17:37:25 hmm, or maybe not. Mar 19 17:37:50 haeffb: actually, I'll have to think about it. thanks for your help - that file actually gives me most of what I need. Mar 19 17:37:51 I do want this phone to end up as the wife's main device Mar 19 17:37:59 Ok. Mar 19 17:39:58 btw, sorry to interrupt, but 2 days ago I tried again to login to 2.1.0 on Telcel and it's still a no-go :) Mar 19 17:41:14 rwhitby: I am redoctoring with the frankenPre2 script (sprint) if you want that ipkg_installed list before OTA Mar 19 17:41:25 yeah, that would be handy. Mar 19 17:41:57 oops. "We were unable to reset your phone" Mar 19 17:42:24 and sitting there with the chip/arrow icon Mar 19 17:42:34 * haeffb wonders what to do Mar 19 17:43:01 boot into recovery mode Mar 19 17:43:03 haeffb: you ran the doctor on the command line and are watching it's log output, right? Mar 19 17:43:19 right Mar 19 17:43:59 WARNING: flashing failed, move to failed card Mar 19 17:44:14 then dumped back to command prompt Mar 19 17:44:15 look before that Mar 19 17:44:33 Mar 19, 2011 12:38:30 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController runnerFinished Mar 19 17:44:56 * rwhitby waits for haeffb to engage brain ;) Mar 19 17:45:08 broken pipe Mar 19 17:46:12 Volume group store not found in existing configuration. Mar 19 17:47:51 CPU-specific initialization failed Mar 19 17:48:31 I'm trying to get uberkernel onto my pre + that is on 2.1... when I run preware and go to uberkernel I get errors about I don't have the right kernel any ideas on how to fix ? Mar 19 17:49:04 joebpre: Do you have another kernel installed already? Mar 19 17:49:09 haeffb: that one seems to happen on the Pre 2 occasionally for some reason, just go into recovery mode and try again Mar 19 17:49:35 joebpre: you have the wrong kernel feed installed. Mar 19 17:49:36 Nuttybunny: probably I'm on 2.1 right now Mar 19 17:49:38 ~testing-feeds Mar 19 17:49:39 it has been said that testing-feeds is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Mar 19 17:49:43 read that again Mar 19 17:50:26 (*hint* - palm recovery kernel) :) Mar 19 17:50:41 Nuttybunny: he said version, not verification Mar 19 17:51:05 hmm - actually that's an assumption, cause he said neither. Mar 19 17:51:11 :P Mar 19 17:51:21 joebpre: compatible version problem, or file verification problem? Mar 19 17:51:51 joebpre: (hint: in future, when asking about stuff, report the exact error message) Mar 19 17:52:10 rwhitby: I did all thjat I enabled both twsting feeds then I put in the testing kernel feed .. I did update feeds in prepared and got errors Mar 19 17:52:41 joebpre: can you tell us exactly what errors you got? Mar 19 17:53:10 ok I will brb let me add them Mar 19 17:54:29 Opt-Sym-P takes screenshots Mar 19 17:54:45 Opt -> Orange/Gray key Mar 19 17:54:55 (is it called opt??) :) Mar 19 17:55:39 sacramento is so cold Mar 19 17:55:51 I can't type for anything Mar 19 17:58:05 so is salinas Mar 19 17:59:04 46% doctored Mar 19 17:59:44 (just in case anyone is still following my trials and tribulations) Mar 19 18:01:21 grrr. stuck at 64% "Reconnecting to modem" Mar 19 18:02:29 be patient Mar 19 18:02:43 good advice. but hard to follow. :) Mar 19 18:02:55 there it went Mar 19 18:05:54 p102una is Pre2 ? Mar 19 18:06:08 * haeffb can't remember if I swapped the FCC sticker Mar 19 18:06:24 speaking of "engaging brain" Mar 19 18:07:38 yeah, p102una is unlocked US Pre 2 Mar 19 18:08:25 doctoring is complete, gotta go get some lunch. Mar 19 18:09:01 bbl Mar 19 18:09:22 oh ok testing feeds have been added Mar 19 18:11:51 rwhitby: or whoever else I have uberkernel palm kernel and f102a .. do I install palm kernel first ? Mar 19 18:15:56 one sec Mar 19 18:17:01 joebpre, install uberkernel Mar 19 18:42:02 So, who wants to give the WIDK a build from scratch test? Mar 19 18:47:30 ok back I took a screenshot of my err trying to install uberkernel Mar 19 18:47:49 s/eer/error Mar 19 18:47:53 http://www.flickr.com/photos/60817783@N06/5540062183/ Mar 19 18:49:05 you need to fix your feeds then Mar 19 18:49:23 my guess is that you didn't get the name correct, or that you've done a save/restore restore and haven't rebooted. Mar 19 18:49:52 ok let me reboot Mar 19 19:19:04 ah im just loving my pre now :D Mar 19 19:19:24 did the patch work? Mar 19 19:24:14 rwhitby: did you fix widk? Mar 19 19:24:28 had to remove several packages to run it Mar 19 19:24:50 IIRC it stiöö not complete build yet Mar 19 19:26:36 uberkernel still won't install rwhitby or Nuttybunny I did have a save restore and now I reported .. then I go back to prepared and download prepared and same error .. should I just doctor ? Mar 19 19:36:28 joebpre: Open Device Info, what webos version does it say there? Mar 19 19:38:24 there is no version even though I'm on 2.1 Mar 19 19:38:57 ok, that's the problem, I assume you used a recent meta doctor script to install, right? Mar 19 19:40:01 yes ... from webod-internals Mar 19 19:40:42 webos-internals Mar 19 19:40:58 ok. do you have a way to access your device files? (either internalz or novaterm will do) Mar 19 19:41:20 let me go get my computer Mar 19 19:44:46 Nuttybunny- im on the computer Mar 19 19:45:14 well, my OG Franken-Pre2 on sprint now has extra Franken... Mar 19 19:45:39 screen from one phone... system board from another... backplate and comm board from another... Mar 19 19:45:42 joeb_: Right, novaterm into your Pre Mar 19 19:45:48 im there Mar 19 19:45:50 I am almost certain the battery isn't the one that came in it.. lol Mar 19 19:46:00 there has to be like 5 phones worth the parts in this thing now, lol Mar 19 19:46:05 cryptk: My baby Pre will soon be similar... :( Mar 19 19:46:22 joeb_: type: cat /etc/palm-build-info Mar 19 19:46:46 BUILDNAME=Nova-ATT-CastlePlus Mar 19 19:46:46 BUILDNUMBER=142 Mar 19 19:46:46 BUILDTIME=20100722163646 Mar 19 19:46:46 BUILDMARK=321153 Mar 19 19:47:18 ok, there's one line missing. What's your carrier? Mar 19 19:47:26 att Mar 19 19:47:27 nevermind Mar 19 19:47:35 you don't need the carrier :) Mar 19 19:47:36 hold on Mar 19 19:48:05 type: root_fs -t Mar 19 19:48:26 not found Mar 19 19:48:31 ah, sorry Mar 19 19:48:35 rootfs_open -t Mar 19 19:48:47 ok it did it Mar 19 19:48:54 now, to edit the file Mar 19 19:49:04 type: vi /etc/palm-build-info Mar 19 19:49:14 now, follow carefully Mar 19 19:49:22 press the letter "i" Mar 19 19:49:28 im using nano Mar 19 19:49:36 its like notepad Mar 19 19:49:42 AH, nice, you know your way around :) Mar 19 19:50:07 well, insert a line at the top that says: PRODUCT_VERSION_STRING=HP webOS 2.1.0 Mar 19 19:50:27 save the file and reboot your Pre Mar 19 19:50:46 then go to the device info app and you must see HP webOS 2.1.0 as the version Mar 19 19:50:57 then fire up preware and install uberkernel Mar 19 19:51:13 Wonder how that managed to get left out Mar 19 19:51:38 and... when do you say you installed 2.1? there was an error in the script that didn't get the first line from the WR doctor :S Mar 19 19:52:30 i new i was doing everything right Nuttybunny Mar 19 19:54:37 yea something .. eventually i had to rename the webosdoctor.jar in downlodas .. unomment the script so it didn't redownload Mar 19 19:54:40 then it doctored Mar 19 19:55:22 the problem is that most users don't even read the wikis and come and ask questions already answered there, and that pisses rwhitby ;) Mar 19 19:55:46 aw Mar 19 19:55:50 i read the wiki up and down Mar 19 19:55:51 :D Mar 19 19:55:59 i got a buildinfo Nuttybunny Mar 19 19:56:00 :D Mar 19 19:56:36 We should put in the wiki: "if something doesn't work right, delete your meta doctor folder, go to sleep and try again the next morning" :D Mar 19 19:58:10 or go have a beer or two :V Mar 19 20:00:01 Nuttybunny- there a guide for what you told me about the build-info Mar 19 20:01:24 SineOt: It's more likely that something went awry in one of the scripts and it Rod will fix it, but several hours later, like when he was testing the 1.4.5 toPalm & 2.1.0 to Preware palm-build-info file creating... I got caught in the middle and my Pre Plus reported 1.4.5 on device and 9.9.9 on Palm's site :D Mar 19 20:01:41 hee Mar 19 20:01:44 joeb_: No, there isn't because the scripts do that automatically Mar 19 20:02:17 the idea should have been that, as I said, you deleted the meta doctor folder and download everything again (even the doctors, just to be safe) Mar 19 20:04:24 oh yea Mar 19 20:04:25 1ghz Mar 19 20:04:57 $ git push origin v0.99.14 Mar 19 20:04:57 Total 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) Mar 19 20:04:57 To git@webos-internals.org:applications/freetether.git Mar 19 20:04:57 * [new tag] v0.99.14 -> v0.99.14 Mar 19 20:05:30 hehehe... mine can't do 1.2 or speeds below 512Mhz, while the Baby Pre can go to 1.2 and 125Mhz :D Mar 19 20:07:41 PuffTheMagic: Does it fix the "set-wifi-info-turn-on-wifi-settings-dont-get-saved" bug? Mar 19 20:08:02 or the "I don't play along with devmode" problem? :D Mar 19 20:10:49 Nuttybunny, yes Mar 19 20:10:51 hm, SR71 says it has on demand tickle gov… So wouldn't it be stupid simple to port to other kernels, since it's already written/working for an experimental as is? Mar 19 20:11:02 what, i dont play with devmode bug? Mar 19 20:11:14 yep, I posted it on Precentral Mar 19 20:11:31 did u post it on the bug tracker? Mar 19 20:11:46 cause that is what counts Mar 19 20:12:21 nop.. argh.. hold on a sec Mar 19 20:14:39 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Rainbow Dash boot theme… COMPLETE :Q Mar 19 20:17:24 Nuttybunny, so 0.99.14 is in feed now, see if you still have settings issues Mar 19 20:19:17 ok Mar 19 20:22:46 The devmode problem: If you enable devmode, and then usb tethering and plug the Pre, you have network but devmode doesn't work Mar 19 20:23:07 now, if you go and disable devmode, then reenable it, both things work fine Mar 19 20:23:07 I think that's a problem with Windows drivers though Mar 19 20:23:23 but if you disable usb tethering while both are working the Pre crashes Mar 19 20:23:34 * Nuttybunny doesn't use windows :P Mar 19 20:23:37 where the ndis-ethernet driver claims it and won't let novacom touch it Mar 19 20:23:42 well, whatever it is :p Mar 19 20:23:46 I think it's a driver issue Mar 19 20:25:12 stoopid phone won't activate Mar 19 20:38:25 PuffTheMagic: There you go, bug reported :) Mar 19 20:51:09 hmm Mar 19 20:58:28 how to manually enter MSID and MDN? Mar 19 21:03:12 my google-fu is strong! Mar 19 21:06:58 but google-fu is not enough. Mar 19 21:07:00 :( Mar 19 21:12:32 any sprint activation experts around? frankenPre2 has wrong MEID and MDN. I use ##MSL# to go change them, but they do not seem to stick. Mar 19 21:16:54 haeffb, were you using a comm board that already worked on your sprint account? Mar 19 21:17:28 and did you use the franken pre2 on sprint meta-script? Mar 19 21:17:36 if so, you are good Mar 19 21:17:48 we will not tell anyone how to change ESN's MEID's or anything like that Mar 19 21:17:49 this is a frankenpre2 that I had activated previously on my first line. Mar 19 21:17:57 as that can be easily used for illegal activities Mar 19 21:18:05 Not trying to do that. Mar 19 21:18:17 MSID and MDN Mar 19 21:18:47 so I'm having thoughts about the PRL issue with sprint Mar 19 21:18:52 I was trying to redoctor and activate on my second line and I get "Activation Error" Mar 19 21:19:24 then you need to re-program the phone, following the sprint procedure should do it Mar 19 21:19:36 if not, I can't really help you, I don't know how to change them myself Mar 19 21:19:43 RagingMind, prl issue? Mar 19 21:20:13 how the people with 2.1 on sprint can't update their prl Mar 19 21:20:40 they just need the leaked sprint doctor Mar 19 21:20:50 PuffTheMagic, that is not a solution Mar 19 21:20:56 telling people to use some illegal software Mar 19 21:21:01 its the only solution isnt it Mar 19 21:21:22 cryptk: I was trying to follow the instructions in step 12 of this post: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/221385-cross-platform-meta-doctor-guide-bypass-carrier-activation-etc.html Mar 19 21:21:36 both the verizon.tar and sprint.tar files have an ipk in them that updates the PRL Mar 19 21:21:37 so that I could get to step 13 (Kiss Rod Whitby on the cheek) Mar 19 21:21:49 at least that's what the script in the ipk claims it's doing Mar 19 21:21:53 cryptk, i agree its not an idea solution Mar 19 21:22:04 but the meta doc scripts don't seem to include that ipk Mar 19 21:22:06 idea; Mar 19 21:22:08 and I'm not sure why Mar 19 21:22:34 haeffb, why are you not following the official instructions on how to do it? Mar 19 21:22:39 RagingMind, both sprint and vzw are cdma so of course they are both going to have prl utils Mar 19 21:22:51 i wonder if the vzw one could be tweaked to work on sprint Mar 19 21:23:05 haeffb, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2 Mar 19 21:23:06 it's not a continuing update... but it would update it to whatever is in the 1.4.5 doctor Mar 19 21:23:30 what? Mar 19 21:23:30 and I"m assuming if somehow one got a new list the same thing could be used later Mar 19 21:23:39 u just lost me Mar 19 21:23:47 it just does this: Mar 19 21:23:48 http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre/p145r0d08102010/spr1ntp145rod/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar Mar 19 21:23:51 oops Mar 19 21:23:56 echo -n start update PRI/PRL ... Mar 19 21:23:56 PmModemUpdater < $PREFIX/usr/lib/modem/cdmaCust.tar Mar 19 21:23:58 the VZW one likely cannot be modified to work on sprint as it is a compiled binary Mar 19 21:24:18 it does that in both the ipk for verizon and sprint Mar 19 21:24:25 there is a compiled binary that it relies on Mar 19 21:24:34 the provisioner Mar 19 21:24:35 the "binary part" just talks to luna-sevice Mar 19 21:24:40 so that it can be triggered via webos Mar 19 21:24:44 just my guess Mar 19 21:24:47 nope Mar 19 21:25:08 webos calls the binary, the binary talks to carrier, the binary passes new PRL back to webOS Mar 19 21:25:27 so it looks like PmModemUpdater can do the update if it's given a file with a list in it Mar 19 21:25:44 I'm just not sure how easy/hard it is to get that list Mar 19 21:25:52 cryptk: I followed those instructions. I had the Pre2 activated and operating on Sprint with webOS 2.1. I then did the same for a second frankenPre2. I re-doctored the first and tried to activate on my second line. Mar 19 21:25:54 so has anyone traced what the provisioner is doing? Mar 19 21:26:57 and I get an activation error - the phone does not seem to want to update the MDN and MSID wirelessly. So I tried following Step 12 to manually change the MDN and MSID. But that doesn't seem to be working, so I asked for help here. Mar 19 21:27:03 I've run *228 (or whatever the number is on verizon) and that works, I can try installing the ipk from the doctor if ya want Mar 19 21:27:28 an easier route would be to put the comm board back in a Pre-, activate it on second line, then redo the franken pre Mar 19 21:30:25 that's easier than entering MSID and MDN? Mar 19 21:30:38 or is it not possible to manually enter MSID and MDN? Mar 19 21:30:58 I have no clue what is involved in changing those Mar 19 21:31:09 so I would go with the method that I know Mar 19 21:31:18 but you can do whatever you would like Mar 19 21:31:32 you said the way you are going at it isn't working, I suggested another way... take it or leave it Mar 19 21:33:19 I will take it and thank you! I apologize if I don't sound appreciative, I am relatively ignorant of the ins & outs of this, so asking questions. Mar 19 21:34:13 although this means that Nuttybunny will have to wait a bit longer for the remains of the Pre- :( Mar 19 21:35:56 * haeffb wonders if anyone else has tried reactivating a frankenPre2 on another line on Sprint... ? Mar 19 21:36:04 As I told you, there's no rush :) just take care of the volume buttons ribbon, it can get caught quite easily between the plastic pieces... :S Mar 19 21:36:21 yep, will do Mar 19 21:38:04 haeffb, if you put the comm board back in the Pre-, make sure to re-doctor the phone to 1.4.5 to get the right modem firmware on the comm board before you try and activate Mar 19 21:38:13 otherwise the phone won't talk to the modem properly Mar 19 21:38:46 Ok, thanks! Mar 19 21:39:19 i just traced provisioner see if there is anything useful in it Mar 19 21:47:12 I don't have a sprint pre with 2.x on it to try... do you know how/what fails when it runs? Mar 19 21:50:32 RagingMind, what are u talking about now? Mar 19 21:50:55 the provisioner Mar 19 21:51:02 i think this can be testing using telnet if we know the server for the rpl updates Mar 19 21:51:14 RagingMind, im just trying to see what my 1.4.5 provisoner sends to the server Mar 19 21:56:04 anyone having issues with location services Mar 19 21:56:16 google maps can't find me Mar 19 21:57:45 aside from the media saverestore folder what is needed to restore app prefs? does the palm profile matter? Mar 19 21:58:17 do I need to rescan media? Mar 19 22:00:31 anyone know why my 'skip activation' on sprint pre 1.4.5 didn't take? had to luma open wifi to get online... Mar 19 22:01:42 oh was meta-dr ing. picked the makefille options and everything... Mar 19 22:05:25 can somebody check there location service Mar 19 22:05:28 mine isn't working Mar 19 22:05:31 with data or wifi on Mar 19 22:07:31 humm. maps are... slow... Mar 19 22:07:39 yea Mar 19 22:07:47 but is gps finding you Mar 19 22:07:54 oh but it came up. on sprint 1.4.5 Mar 19 22:07:56 maybe cause it is raining hard Mar 19 22:08:12 err no sprint data though. just wifi Mar 19 22:08:34 ya. it got my location. Mar 19 22:08:44 pfft Mar 19 22:08:49 your on 1.4.5 right ? Mar 19 22:08:55 yup Mar 19 22:09:23 does anyone have their MSL and a sprint device? Mar 19 22:11:22 i just downladed mygps from app catalog Mar 19 22:11:25 * joeb_ goes outside Mar 19 22:43:44 leiru appears to be gone now, but just to comment... the symlink for the eclipse update site has not been updated yet. sorry about that. Mar 19 22:44:24 The files are actually all there though, and there were some updates to the eclipse plug-in. I hope to get the symlink updated soon, probably on Monday, at which point "check for updates" in eclipse should pick it up. Mar 19 22:45:46 hey lemketron so whats up with hybrids in the emulator? Mar 19 22:45:52 last i heard they didn't work for some reason Mar 19 22:47:34 I guess that (eclipse comment) goes for SimpsonCH too, though I don't recall off-hand if the lost emulator connection was one of the changes. Mar 19 22:47:51 oil: hybrids should work as long as they're sdl. we don't have opengl working in the emulator just yet. Mar 19 22:48:15 so a plugin like wirc (which isnt visible) should work? Mar 19 22:48:22 yup. give it a shot. Mar 19 22:48:25 ok Mar 19 22:48:25 I'd love to see xterm too. Mar 19 22:48:42 hi Mar 19 22:48:48 wanted to make sure to make wirc work right in pre3 resolution Mar 19 22:48:48 especially to find out if it works in a "larger" emulator... (as was mentioned on twitter last night) Mar 19 22:48:57 right. or bigger. Mar 19 22:49:23 yeah Mar 19 22:50:14 no rest for the weary though... just released 2.1, and already swamped with tasks for future sdk releases (and pre-releases) Mar 19 22:50:45 just read about the synergy messaging plugins... which feed provides this package? can't find it in preware Mar 19 22:51:03 heh Mar 19 22:51:18 eliasp: i dont know which feed :/ Mar 19 22:52:40 hmm, looks like it isn't in the feed yet... Mar 19 22:52:56 eliasp, is it a patch? Mar 19 22:53:09 if so, it hasn't been submitted to the portal yet if it isn't in preware Mar 19 22:53:14 cryptk: no, not anymore... now a native Synergy plugin: http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/278796-synergy-messaging-plugins-webos-2-x.html Mar 19 22:53:21 ahh, gotcha Mar 19 22:53:29 can't wait to finally have jabber without dirty patching on my 2.1 Pre- Mar 19 23:16:30 cant wait to have a no pause on video minimize patch for 2.1 Mar 19 23:17:11 I"m hoping one of the GPS patches is updated soon Mar 19 23:23:54 hmm, the messaging plugins package doesn't work for me... installation of the package is done within seconds (way too fast.. feels like something's broken) after the download and even after a restart, there are no other account types available.... Mar 19 23:24:39 * eliasp tries the installation through SSH, maybe i'll get some more details about the installation on CLI level Mar 19 23:37:14 installed it now manually using ipkg and it worked fine... but in the end, I see this line: "(offline root mode: not running com.palm.webosinternals.messaging.postinst)" .. how'd I call this postinst script? Mar 19 23:38:20 ah, found it: /media/cryptofs/apps/.scripts/com.palm.webosinternals.messaging/pmPostInstall.script Mar 19 23:38:42 it's empty, so there's probably no need to do this... Mar 19 23:38:54 rebooting now, let's hope I see other account types this time Mar 19 23:44:04 yeehaw, I see the other account types... let's see whether XMPP works now :) Mar 19 23:44:47 now just someone needs to create a GroupDAV synergy plugin for contacts/calendar and I'm the happiest man on earth :) Mar 19 23:48:13 rwhitby: be at dishdash in a few.. Mar 20 00:09:32 hmm, re-installed the messaging plugins now through preware but i still don't see any contacts related to the new accounts in the messaging buddy list... Mar 20 00:20:50 eliasp: What account type are you talking about? Mar 20 00:21:50 Nuttybunny: 2 XMPP accounts... I don't see any contacts of them at all... the accounts are shown just fine in the messaging application (e.g. in the 'Add Buddy' dialog), but it seems like they're still offline... Mar 20 00:22:19 even when using 'Show Offline Contact'.... Mar 20 00:22:32 so it seems they're not connected at all Mar 20 00:23:55 mmmm... seems that you're candidate to run the debug scripts :) Mar 20 00:24:25 Nuttybunny: I'd be totally fine with running debug scripts, if I'd know where they're located Mar 20 00:25:24 * Nuttybunny reads the first post in the PreCentran thread and finds............. Mar 20 00:25:40 * eliasp should probably do this too :) Mar 20 00:25:42 2.1 has been really buggy for the past couple days Mar 20 00:25:53 If you have issues perform the following steps to troubleshoot the issue.: ........ Mar 20 00:25:54 crashed twice today Mar 20 00:25:56 hehehe... Mar 20 00:26:05 lol nice steps Mar 20 00:26:24 will probably end up doctoring Mar 20 00:26:47 /media/internan/DebugMP_account_Creation.sh and DebugMP_Login.sh Mar 20 00:27:03 s/internan/internal/ Mar 20 00:27:04 Nuttybunny meant: /media/internal/DebugMP_account_Creation.sh and DebugMP_Login.sh Mar 20 00:27:15 phone is rebooting Mar 20 00:28:46 anyone found out where 2.1 stores its messages and contacts Mar 20 00:29:12 in db8 Mar 20 00:29:29 whats the directory Mar 20 00:29:35 idk Mar 20 00:29:42 lul Mar 20 00:29:43 hmm, the debug output looks bad... like: there's no relevant output :( Mar 20 00:30:30 only directly when launching the debug-script: http://paste.kde.org/7708/ Mar 20 00:30:43 but nothing afterwards when setting 'Available' in the messaging app Mar 20 00:31:29 * eliasp takes a look at the script source to understand, what it should do Mar 20 00:31:54 lemketron, did u men pre releases or prereleaes Mar 20 00:32:24 ah, it writes a log file... let's take a look at this one Mar 20 00:33:35 * Nuttybunny hopes that eliasp can see the cause if the issues Mar 20 00:33:50 just skimming through the log... let's see Mar 20 00:33:58 tail -f /media/internal/DebugMP/relevantfile Mar 20 00:35:07 some messages about the oscar plugin, but I'm not using it so this shouldn't be relevant... if you're interested: http://paste.kde.org/7710/ Mar 20 00:36:05 hmm Mar 20 00:36:09 looks like I found the issue: Mar 20 00:36:11 (01:25:56) plugins: /usr/lib/purple-2/libjabber.so is not usable because the 'purple_init_plugin' symbol could not be found. Does the plugin call the PURPLE_INIT_PLUGIN() macro? Mar 20 00:36:18 * dumbledore_ wonders if installing verizon navigator on sprint pre will work Mar 20 00:36:57 eliasp: wtf? What webOS version are you using? Mar 20 00:37:03 Nuttybunny: 2.1.0 Mar 20 00:40:50 eliasp: The funny thing it that I think libjabber.so is the native Pre file and not related to the messaging plugins :S Mar 20 00:41:22 hmm, maybe I should try some LD_PRELOAD foo to see whether it works then? Mar 20 00:41:30 ah, no, nevermind, it's there, sorry :) Mar 20 00:41:36 it comes with the plugins :S Mar 20 00:43:08 i just noticed all my contacts are not on my phone from google .. example .. my sister .. i do a search for her and i see her facebook name but her gmail contact isn't linked to it Mar 20 00:43:21 can i deleted my gmail account with all numbers on it and then re-sync it ? Mar 20 00:43:44 Nuttybunny: hmm, there's only one libjabber.so on my Pre: /usr/lib/purple-2/libjabber.so Mar 20 00:44:12 eliasp: what size is it? Mar 20 00:44:14 Nuttybunny: is this correct or should there be a 2nd one? Mar 20 00:44:34 Nuttybunny: md5: 4c240fa4a0c206d7c71a6470ed31ee5b Mar 20 00:45:17 * Nuttybunny looks in his pre Mar 20 00:45:23 hmm, it links to libjabber.so.0.0.0 (size: 234.5K) Mar 20 00:46:25 im going to airplane mode Mar 20 00:46:31 you should compare md5sums, not sizes... Mar 20 00:46:41 2 files can be the same size, but different files Mar 20 00:46:52 or a file could have been slightly damaged in transmission Mar 20 00:46:55 cryptk: that's what I did in the first place, read 2 lines above my 'size' line Mar 20 00:47:08 whoop, you sure did, lol Mar 20 00:47:17 I missed it, lol Mar 20 00:47:20 :) Mar 20 00:48:14 can the amazonMP3 app be installed on frankenPre2 ? Mar 20 00:49:13 yes you can Mar 20 00:49:31 just delete your google acct and add it back on Mar 20 00:49:35 haeffb, I don't see why not... but you would have to try it first, lol Mar 20 00:50:30 eliasp: there should be 2, the one you saw, and /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.messaging/sysfiles/usr/lib/libjabber.so.0, but why do your Pre grabs the system one? Mar 20 00:51:02 of course, you did reboot your Pre entirely after installing the ipk with Preware, right? Mar 20 00:51:09 Nuttybunny: yes, sure I did :) Mar 20 00:51:57 ok, there's another libjabber (did an exact 'find / -name libjabber.so') before instead of 'find / -name "libjabber.so*" Mar 20 00:52:16 trying to LD_ the /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.messaging/sysfiles/usr/lib/libjabber.so.0 now Mar 20 00:52:19 let's see if this helps Mar 20 00:52:55 mmm... I can only think in deleting the accounts, uninstalling completely, reboot, install again, reboot (maybe the install script should do the link) and recreate the accounts? Mar 20 00:57:19 that's weird... no output at all when going on-/offline... using now LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to the package's libjabber.so directory.... Mar 20 00:57:49 Nuttybunny: I think I'll try your suggestion... delete all related new accounts, uninstall, reboot, re-install, reboot, add accounts, reboot... or so :) Mar 20 00:58:09 forgot the default password root password for pre ? Mar 20 00:58:28 there is a default password? Mar 20 00:58:30 that's the only think I can think of, it's too weird and mine does work... and I didn't do anything funny, just install via Preware Mar 20 00:58:37 joeb_: there's no such thing Mar 20 00:58:49 joeb_: there's no default root password... use an authorized_keys file for SSH Mar 20 00:59:14 im trying to winscp into my pre Mar 20 00:59:53 joeb_: you have to use pubkey auth for SSH/SCP Mar 20 01:00:02 in fact, root has no password :) Mar 20 01:01:17 mmm... it's night already? 7pm? really? *sigh* Mar 20 01:02:05 im using winscp in wine Mar 20 01:02:23 joeb_: WTF?! you're on a Linux box and using WinSCP? Mar 20 01:02:34 hehe Mar 20 01:02:36 :D Mar 20 01:02:37 joeb_: what about simply using Nautilus or Dolphin? Mar 20 01:02:47 eliasp- i was on the phone doine this on a call Mar 20 01:02:49 im off work now Mar 20 01:02:59 you have my full attention Mar 20 01:03:07 sftp://foo@my.pre.ip.address Mar 20 01:03:18 ok Mar 20 01:04:09 joeb@joeb:~/Palm_stuff$ sftp://joeb@192.168.1.13 Mar 20 01:04:10 bash: sftp://joeb@192.168.1.13: No such file or directory Mar 20 01:04:24 joeb_: use this URL in Dolphin/Nautilus Mar 20 01:04:32 joeb_: here I simply have a link in my KDE places panel which points to sftp://root@palmpre ... Mar 20 01:04:59 joeb_: so I can access my Pre in every KDE application's filedialog, in Dolphin itself etc by simply using the link in the places panel Mar 20 01:05:11 eliasp- i just started using kde also Mar 20 01:05:13 joeb_: but you have to setup pubkey auth first Mar 20 01:05:17 where is places or are you on yoru home folder Mar 20 01:05:34 joeb_: 'Places' is the sidebar in dolphin, which also appears in every file open/save dialog Mar 20 01:05:55 i see it Mar 20 01:06:06 add entry ? Mar 20 01:06:16 yes Mar 20 01:06:50 that was quick Mar 20 01:06:58 now it wants username and pass Mar 20 01:07:07 now for the pubkey auth Mar 20 01:07:14 do i have to novaterm into pre first ? Mar 20 01:07:17 joeb_: user: root, pass: none ... so setup the pubkey auth first Mar 20 01:08:03 joeb_: use novaterm or otherwise copy your id_rsa.pub to /media/internal via USB, then use Internalz to put it to /var/home/root/.ssh/ and rename it to authorized_keys Mar 20 01:08:14 k Mar 20 01:08:46 ssh server is enabled Mar 20 01:08:50 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenSSH_Install Mar 20 01:08:58 ok Mar 20 01:08:59 i instaleld openssh on the pre Mar 20 01:09:06 something isgoing awefully wrong with my pre.... half the screen is flashing Mar 20 01:09:50 dumbledore_: What did you do to it? custom kernel? dropped it? fed it to the dog? :) Mar 20 01:10:09 lol im trying to set the cpu speed Mar 20 01:10:23 dumbledore_: overclocked it to 2GHz? :) Mar 20 01:10:27 but for some reason, no matter what setting i put it too, it jumps back to 500mhz Mar 20 01:10:37 lol long way from 2ghz :P Mar 20 01:10:51 if I were going to try to install an amazonMP3 ipk to a frankenPre2, how would I go about it? Mar 20 01:10:55 eliasp- that tutorial just shows install openssh Mar 20 01:11:06 palm-install will not do it Mar 20 01:11:12 joeb_: yes, pasted the link before I read you already did it.... Mar 20 01:11:13 haeffb: get ipk from old doctor and install it on 2.1 Mar 20 01:11:19 did you try preware? Mar 20 01:11:33 no, did not try preware Mar 20 01:12:03 http://www.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=authorized_keys&go=Go Mar 20 01:12:05 i know this is rather stupid question, but are you installing from an ipk Mar 20 01:12:24 yes, I have an .ipk Mar 20 01:12:28 oh Mar 20 01:12:33 from which doctor Mar 20 01:12:33 haeffb: you should try with preware, or maybe ipkg install on the device Mar 20 01:12:35 1.4.5? Mar 20 01:13:05 ipkg install on the device also didn't work, but I may need better instructions on using ipkg on device. Mar 20 01:13:10 * haeffb shall google Mar 20 01:14:09 * dumbledore_ just expierenced his third crash for the day Mar 20 01:14:10 ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps/ install file.ipk Mar 20 01:14:44 dumbledore_: bump up the voltage before switching to another speed Mar 20 01:15:22 will do once phone reboots Mar 20 01:15:44 what's the -o switch? Mar 20 01:15:56 mmm... has anyone notice that it seems that when you leave X open (xterm), the pre just stays on? Mar 20 01:16:07 the -o is to tell the Pre where you'll install the file Mar 20 01:16:25 since it's not a system file, it should be in /media/cryptofs Mar 20 01:16:31 system app Mar 20 01:16:38 whatever, you get it Mar 20 01:18:12 is there a way from the patch portal website to download a patch so I can look at it? Mar 20 01:18:51 pre is getting rather hot Mar 20 01:19:05 didnt even boot up yet Mar 20 01:19:16 dumbledore_: you should try another kernel, which one are you using? Mar 20 01:19:26 uberkernel Mar 20 01:19:49 Nuttybunny: yeeehaw, after the re-install + reboot procedure, it works! goddam! finally native XMPP! Mar 20 01:19:59 dumbledore_: really???? weird... what speed were you trying to reach? Mar 20 01:20:17 funny thing is, this is the hottest ive ever felt it get Mar 20 01:20:21 eliasp: You may had created the accounts when you installed via other method than Preware Mar 20 01:20:28 let it cool for a while Mar 20 01:20:37 i was trying to set it to 500 min and 800max Mar 20 01:20:39 Nuttybunny: hmm, probably... Mar 20 01:21:02 and then it just froze, half the screen was flashing, dosent respond to keys nor screen Mar 20 01:21:07 eliasp: and the system was attempting to use a call that isn't on the native libraries Mar 20 01:21:32 i pulled the battery, and i pushed the power button. its sitting at the penguin and heating up Mar 20 01:22:21 eliasp- it sucks umount in nautiuls on this kde Mar 20 01:22:36 joeb_: what do you mean? Mar 20 01:22:37 dumbledore: Do as I do, I first look for the better voltage for the lower value, going down one at a time until it crashes... this is using the performance governor and sticking it with the same max an min values Mar 20 01:22:59 (btw... turn it off before something bad happens) Mar 20 01:23:00 eliasp- i right clicked on the pre and went to safelty remove but its still there Mar 20 01:23:05 will do Mar 20 01:23:18 pre is nto going back to main screen .. still in usb mode Mar 20 01:23:21 lol i was way ahead of you :P im letting it cool by the window Mar 20 01:23:37 finally Mar 20 01:23:39 i had to unplug Mar 20 01:23:41 joeb_: it won't disappear from the places panel... only the overlay icon which indicates, whether it is just plugged in or mounted changes Mar 20 01:24:24 eliasp- ok i put the file authorized_keys.pub in my /home/joeb/.ssh/ folder Mar 20 01:24:45 dumbledore: After I get the min voltage I go up, one at a time, trying to take a picture with the flash (it tends to crash when doing that)... when you reach the point where you can safely take photographs, you have your lowest voltage for that speed. And then you go to the high speed and do the same Mar 20 01:24:46 joeb_: did you create a user 'joeb' on your pre? Mar 20 01:24:53 no Mar 20 01:25:24 joeb_: then this is wrong.... Mar 20 01:25:26 thanks nuttybunny Mar 20 01:25:44 joeb_: you have to create a keypair on your computer using ssh-keygen... Mar 20 01:25:49 yea Mar 20 01:25:54 ./opt/bin/ssh-keygen Mar 20 01:26:02 this results in a /home/joeb/.ssh/id_rsa and /home/joeb/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file Mar 20 01:26:23 then put the content of your id_rsa.pub file into the Pre's /var/home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys Mar 20 01:26:45 dumbledore_: sure, np, I've been through countless reboots trying to bring my technique to perfection ;) the values are different for my Minus and my Plus, so I had to do it several times! Mar 20 01:27:30 wow lol what are you values for your -? Mar 20 01:27:33 eliasp- that would emply i want to install openssh on my computer .. i thought the pre was the server .. i was on the pre via novaterm and i ran /opt/bin/ssh-keygen .. it generated the .pub key .. i cped the .pub key to my internals drive on my pre .. i then cped the .pub file to my computer in my /home/jobe/.ssh folder Mar 20 01:28:19 joeb_: the Pre _is_ the server... the keypair is created on the client (your computer) and the pubkey file is put onto the server Mar 20 01:28:27 ... into the authorized_keys file Mar 20 01:28:46 ok let e do this again Mar 20 01:29:00 im running /opt/bin/ssh-keygen on my pre via novaterm Mar 20 01:29:28 joeb_: no, you're not doing that... Mar 20 01:29:35 joeb_: you're running 'ssh-keygen' on your computer Mar 20 01:29:37 bah. I had an amazonservice.ipk Mar 20 01:29:43 ok Mar 20 01:29:52 eliasp- so install openssh on my computer then Mar 20 01:30:10 haeffb: if you don't ming the question, why didn't you just use preware to install the ipk? Mar 20 01:30:15 mind Mar 20 01:30:18 joeb_: exactly, but I doubt your computer doesn't have it already installed Mar 20 01:30:34 it dosen't i was cleaning all my ports up the other day Mar 20 01:30:42 joeb_: ok Mar 20 01:31:03 anyone know where the patches hide? Mar 20 01:31:14 Nuttybunny: I don't mind the question. But I don't have an amazonMP3.ipk anyhow. Mar 20 01:31:17 RagingMind: which patches? Mar 20 01:31:56 haeffb: have you looked inside the last Sprint doctor? I don't know if verizon have it Mar 20 01:32:03 the ones that you can load in preware. I've been looking through patches.webos-internals.org and I can't find a download link Mar 20 01:32:08 eliasp- can i pm you so we don't spam the chan ? Mar 20 01:32:15 joeb_: sure Mar 20 01:32:17 I'm looking now, but not sure where to find. the amazonservice is in sprint.tar Mar 20 01:32:19 RagingMind: Why don't you use preware? Mar 20 01:32:19 I just want to download a patch to my computer so I can examine what it's doing Mar 20 01:32:26 ah.. Mar 20 01:32:43 ooh, the MP3 app is also in there. Mar 20 01:32:46 Nuttybunny, I can't actually install it, the patch is just for 1.4.5 and I need to see how possible it'd be to port to 2.1 Mar 20 01:32:59 RagingMind: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-patches/1.4.5/ <- that? Mar 20 01:33:28 Nuttybunny, *HUGZ* thanks :) Mar 20 01:33:33 the patch is just a file stating the differences between the original and a modified one that you should get in the end Mar 20 01:35:53 so, there are amazonstore and amazonservice .ipks in the sprint 1.4.5 and verizon 2.0.1 doctors. Different versions. Mar 20 01:36:05 I'm familiar with patches, just wasn't sure where to download the file from so I could tinker with it :) Mar 20 01:36:22 ah, sorry ;) Mar 20 01:36:25 One would assume that the 2.0.1 versions should be used to install to a 2.x device. Will preware install the service .ipk ? Mar 20 01:36:51 haeffb: sure, Preware does everything ;) Mar 20 01:36:57 go preware! Mar 20 01:37:06 haeffb, my understanding that service or "root" ipks need to be installed from on device Mar 20 01:37:20 after opening the rootfs to modifications and then using ipkg Mar 20 01:37:59 I have no clue about preware, but I was explicitly told that palm-install would not do it, heh Mar 20 01:38:11 I think I've installed those kind of packages even with palm-install, ... but I don't remember Mar 20 01:38:24 palm-install would not do it. Mar 20 01:38:40 I'm leaning towards RagingMind's thoughts Mar 20 01:39:04 this is beyond my level of expertise and I think I will wait until I can discuss with someone who knows for sure... Mar 20 01:39:27 * haeffb goes back to the familiar halls of Mojo and Javascript Mar 20 01:39:29 my experience was installing the skype ipks Mar 20 01:40:00 palm-install failed to install the service, and rwhitby told me I had to do that from on-device Mar 20 01:40:13 probably same thing here. Mar 20 01:42:36 okay... like the other patch I looked at this one looks like it should be easy. it's just shifted by a couple lines Mar 20 01:46:31 eliasp- kde crashes to much Mar 20 01:46:59 joeb_: something's wrong with your machine, kde should not crash Mar 20 01:47:07 joeb_: it did for me too... I'm using it since ~13 years, but 4.6.1 has become rather stable Mar 20 01:47:11 well dolphone crashes to much Mar 20 01:47:24 pre is loaded back to normal :D Mar 20 01:47:30 dumbledore_- 2.1 ? Mar 20 01:47:50 eliasp- or Nuttybunny its dolphin that crashes .. can i replace dolphin ? Mar 20 01:48:12 joeb_: sure, just go to Systemsettings → Default Applications and select another filemanager Mar 20 01:48:21 k Mar 20 01:48:22 its frozen Mar 20 01:48:26 can i force qui it Mar 20 01:48:29 I just use gnome/nautilus Mar 20 01:48:36 kill :D Mar 20 01:48:42 s/kill/xkill/ Mar 20 01:48:42 joeb_ meant: xkill :D Mar 20 01:49:09 joeb_: if it is frozen and you click the close button, there'll be a popup after ~8 secs without reaction, asking you whether you'd like to kill the applicatin Mar 20 01:49:14 joeb_: yeah Mar 20 01:49:22 joeb_: otherwise use Ctrl+Alt+Esc Mar 20 02:02:07 what does setspeed do? Mar 20 02:02:11 in govnah Mar 20 02:02:38 take a wild guess and you may be right ;) Mar 20 02:02:42 lol Mar 20 02:02:50 i mean Mar 20 02:02:59 like, how does it work with min and max speed Mar 20 02:03:03 I think it sets the speed when you're in userspace governor Mar 20 02:03:11 does the cpu still scale up and down? Mar 20 02:03:31 if using ondemand/screenstate, yes Mar 20 02:03:56 its in userspace Mar 20 02:04:23 it doesn't do scaling in userspace, it's controlled by Luna Mar 20 02:04:33 oh Mar 20 02:08:15 Any ideas what webos 3 will do with regards to shell access, ssh, rsync, etc? Mar 20 02:08:41 nope :( Mar 20 02:09:23 webOS 3 will abandon the Linux core and come with a WP7 core instead, running embedded in a IE Mar 20 02:09:44 internet explorer Mar 20 02:09:45 lol Mar 20 02:10:17 oh dear god! :o Mar 20 02:10:38 this will deliver an amazing user experience and great profits of the WP7 ecosystem! can't wait for it, it's going to be unbelievable Mar 20 02:10:45 virus galore Mar 20 02:10:47 :) Mar 20 02:11:09 ie 6 - for our corporate users with an established code base Mar 20 02:11:29 dick-richardson: exactly: http://saveie6.com/ Mar 20 02:11:31 ¬ ¬ Mar 20 02:11:34 ¬¬ Mar 20 02:11:36 someone should design an OS designed completely in c# Mar 20 02:11:47 uuu yeah! Mar 20 02:11:49 coded* Mar 20 02:12:14 i would love to see the day my pre running a microsoft os Mar 20 02:13:30 dumbledore_: I'm sure it's not that hard... just install qemu and you're done... Mar 20 02:13:41 like the guys who were running OS X on a Nokia n900 :) Mar 20 02:13:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFjl3Ob3VpU Mar 20 02:13:57 lolol Mar 20 02:14:50 how do i move kde fm to nautilus Mar 20 02:14:54 Nuttybunny- or eliasp Mar 20 02:15:36 joeb_: Systemsettings → Default-Components → File Manager → Other Mar 20 02:15:58 yea there is only 2 Mar 20 02:16:06 im going to locate nautiuls and put i there Mar 20 02:16:31 joeb_: run 'which nautilus' to get the path of the nautilus executable... no idea where it is located in *SB Mar 20 02:16:39 eliasp- or whereis Mar 20 02:16:41 s/\*SB/*BSD/g Mar 20 02:16:53 yahehehe Mar 20 02:17:06 won a 600watt amp for $10 :D Mar 20 02:17:22 dumbledore_: congrats! Mar 20 02:17:29 thanks Mar 20 02:17:48 * dumbledore_ is away: Mar 20 02:18:29 * eliasp looks for earplugs Mar 20 02:19:19 is it better to copy movies thru gui or the terminal ? Mar 20 02:19:55 hello? Mar 20 02:20:23 blake: hello! Mar 20 02:20:49 hi how do I instal preware? Mar 20 02:21:13 http://www.preware.org/#/install/ Mar 20 02:21:52 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware#Installing_Preware Mar 20 02:22:48 it is not yet completed? Mar 20 02:23:06 ?? Mar 20 02:23:14 webos 3 is what's on the touchpad, correct? Mar 20 02:23:21 dick-richardson: yes Mar 20 02:23:39 will it be released for the pre3? Mar 20 02:23:39 I can't see what you are saying a bunch of links are in the way Mar 20 02:24:01 blake: go ahead and click those bad boys... Mar 20 02:24:06 blake: read them and you'll be enlightened Mar 20 02:25:01 the synergy messaging plugins don't work with my Citadel based XMPP server... I think it's finally time to switch to ejabberd Mar 20 02:25:58 what's going on the screen is filled with links Mar 20 02:26:35 blake: <°((#>< Mar 20 02:26:57 it's a fish Mar 20 02:27:10 dick-richardson: just some troll-feed Mar 20 02:27:15 anyone running sprint pre w/ 2.1? Mar 20 02:27:17 yeah Mar 20 02:28:05 blake, is there any way to get the update network settings button back? Mar 20 02:28:14 or is that tied to the prl stuff Mar 20 02:28:52 ok I want to download this freetether and it says it's available via preware Mar 20 02:29:12 sure is Mar 20 02:29:14 in testing feed Mar 20 02:29:51 can I get it? Mar 20 02:31:23 if u have the testing feed Mar 20 02:32:54 blake: yes, if you pay me $999, I'll send you a secret download link where you can get it Mar 20 02:34:10 so no? I'm guessing? Mar 20 02:34:25 i already said u need to add the testing feed Mar 20 02:34:27 blake: read this goddam URLs above Mar 20 02:35:18 I told you goddammit the is like 300 I can't see anything Mar 20 02:35:30 lol Mar 20 02:35:42 blake- calm down :D Mar 20 02:36:03 "the is like 300"? Mar 20 02:36:09 well I thought this was supposed to be helpful Mar 20 02:36:24 did u follow the links that were posted? Mar 20 02:36:41 I can only see the bottom Mar 20 02:36:51 no because I couldn't see them Mar 20 02:37:04 http://www.preware.org/#/install/ Mar 20 02:37:06 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware#Installing_Preware Mar 20 02:37:15 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Mar 20 02:42:42 ok how do I do the quick instal Mar 20 02:43:18 * eliasp loves ignore lists Mar 20 02:44:01 who dares me to OC to 2ghz Mar 20 02:44:30 do it. Mar 20 02:44:30 dumbledore_: i'll send you a badass-award if you get your pre running stable at 2GHz Mar 20 02:44:41 lol probably not stable Mar 20 02:45:01 heck, i'd be lucky if it boots for 2 seconds :3 Mar 20 02:45:16 still worth a shot for the lolz Mar 20 02:45:37 dumbledore_: i doubt you can go beyond the hardcoded limit of 1.2GHz Mar 20 02:47:28 limited by processor? Mar 20 02:48:04 dumbledore_: yes, the ARM CPU is built for a variable range from 125MHz to 1.2GHz Mar 20 02:48:37 sucks... Mar 20 02:49:07 still wonder what will happen if i try scaling to 2ghz using the wiki page Mar 20 02:49:14 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_webOS_CPU_Frequency_or_Voltage_Scaling Mar 20 02:51:28 heh Mar 20 02:51:53 ... Mar 20 02:53:12 .... Mar 20 02:54:41 anyone want a dnsmasq that caches beyond RFC? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 20 02:59:57 2011