**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 21 02:59:56 2011 Mar 21 03:13:35 * rwhitby bbl - final leg of travel home Mar 21 03:13:48 safe home Mar 21 03:26:39 Have a safe trip rwhitby! Mar 21 03:30:42 Well, I'm off to bed Mar 21 03:30:47 Night everyone Mar 21 04:43:20 ~seen rwhitby Mar 21 04:43:27 rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 265 messages. Is idling for 2h 9m 8s, last said: 'bhuey: using one of the scripts?'. Mar 21 04:43:27 hi everyone :) Mar 21 04:44:57 hey hey Mar 21 06:57:32 mawulil Mar 21 07:41:06 hello everyone Mar 21 07:41:19 hello!? Mar 21 07:41:44 anyone doin 2.1.0 on old hardware? Mar 21 07:42:01 D0li0: a bunch of people, check the wiki Mar 21 07:42:07 it is already fairly well documented Mar 21 07:43:22 no. I know.. just got it running on my retired Pre-... had some questions... Mar 21 07:45:17 like... is the novaterm a little different? the environment seems odd, crond isn't working. my editor (joe) doesn't to line feed/carrage returns... Mar 21 07:46:15 was wondering if anyone from internals thought of doing a port of rar and unrar Mar 21 07:47:39 stacks are pretty neat... any idea when the terminal all will work again in 2.1? Mar 21 07:48:08 sorry Mar 21 07:48:15 I'm not quite sure why it's broken Mar 21 07:48:21 xterm and terminus still work though Mar 21 07:48:45 terminal works for me terminus crashes luna Mar 21 07:48:58 DaemnChyld: terminal works for you in 2.1? Mar 21 07:49:02 weird Mar 21 07:49:21 don't have 2 but then I came in after that lol Mar 21 07:50:02 but terminus crashes on me in 1.4.5 it never worked for me Mar 21 07:50:09 terminal and terminus both just show black screens for me. Mar 21 07:50:37 did anyone respond to rar and unrar Mar 21 07:50:45 I saw a manual fir for terminus. haven't tried it. like terminal better... Mar 21 07:50:49 got disconnected Mar 21 07:51:08 not on the rar.. Mar 21 07:51:46 is all of software an internal port from GNU? Mar 21 07:52:00 software that is... Mar 21 07:52:25 Optiware? Mar 21 07:52:35 autocorrect I see... Mar 21 07:53:31 will a BT keyboard work now!!? Mar 21 07:54:16 D0li0: optware is from openembedded Mar 21 07:54:31 and it's not a special port for webos, it is openembedded Mar 21 07:54:51 I thought so... Mar 21 07:55:21 I ask because the con package seems to have changed again... Mar 21 07:55:47 crond that is... Mar 21 07:55:57 and for the worse, eh? Mar 21 07:55:59 h,, Mar 21 07:56:00 hmm Mar 21 07:56:09 seems so... Mar 21 07:56:46 I guess I'll look closer at work with a real keyboard. Mar 21 07:57:44 yeah, sorry I don't have any more ideas--I'm holding off on the 2.1 upgrade until smarter people have worked out some of the kinks Mar 21 07:57:48 lil netbook keyboard isn't much better and no local terminal it appears... Mar 21 07:58:28 anyone had luck with ez-ip package? lightty? Mar 21 07:58:40 inbound ssh? Mar 21 07:58:48 inbound ssh is pretty easy Mar 21 07:58:52 or at least it was in 1.4.5 Mar 21 07:58:55 no idea about 2.1 Mar 21 07:59:28 I applied my previous sed but haven't checked it yet. Mar 21 07:59:48 uhh yes. 2.1 growing pains. Mar 21 08:15:53 ya. so openssh is crashing. Mar 21 08:19:02 lighttpd also with same. 'pre-start process terminated with status 1'. humm Mar 21 08:27:16 hey guys Mar 21 08:27:43 i got a strange problem with my Pre- 2.1 Mar 21 08:28:42 when screen is turned on, it works perfectly but after some minutes, it doesn't respond to touches anymore, but touches itself, moves icons, etc Mar 21 08:29:09 if i turn screen off and on again, same from beginnig Mar 21 08:33:44 moin Mar 21 08:33:48 rwhitby-pre: ping Mar 21 08:35:17 hi hape Mar 21 08:36:04 is inbound ash working for anyone in 2.1? Mar 21 08:37:08 hi ice8lue Mar 21 08:37:26 ssh that is. Mar 21 08:37:59 news? @hape Mar 21 08:43:18 no ideas to my touchscreen problem? Mar 21 09:37:36 Hi everybody ... Mar 21 09:37:45 Hi everybody ... Mar 21 09:38:01 can anybody tell me where I get the alpha of LinPhone for webOS? Thanks. Mar 21 09:43:26 hape: syn|ack Mar 21 10:32:12 rwhitby-pre: one question. I metadoctored my Pre2 to 2.1 with the autoinstall Preware otion enabled. But the autoinstall did not worked. Mar 21 10:32:51 rwhitby-pre: I istalled Preware manually. But as soon as Luna restart the Preware icon turns to the 'is installing' screen. Mar 21 10:33:16 rwhitby-pre: How can I remove the autoinstall fuction that was added by the metadoctor? Mar 21 11:14:24 rwhitby-pre: Isn't there already a OTA-update available for the Pre 2? Mar 21 11:38:08 heyho Mar 21 11:40:27 hape: did ups visit u already? Mar 21 11:49:19 ice8lue: yes, on the 17th, exactly 10 workdasy after the mail. As proposed ;-) Mar 21 11:49:27 :-O Mar 21 11:49:41 now, that's unfair -.- still waiting on mine... Mar 21 11:49:43 took me the weekend to get the minum suff running on the new device. Mar 21 11:50:03 y? Mar 21 11:50:11 wasen't you talking about a Pre2 problem earlier today? Mar 21 11:50:19 nope, pre- Mar 21 11:50:22 ok Mar 21 11:50:56 1th my Palm Profile was not able to read the backup from my old device. Mar 21 11:51:35 Then I had trouble to config my EAS server as it uses Lotus Traveler and not MS Exchange. Mar 21 11:52:17 The Lotus Traveler server only understands the EAS commands that the iPhone uses, but WebOS2.1 now uses command that the iPhonde do not use ... Mar 21 11:53:04 So I neeed to migrate my address and calendar data to the Palm Profile.... Mar 21 11:53:41 The last trouble baby was then that my private IMAP account was also not working. But now I have it going. Mar 21 11:54:08 So I can use the phone today and do the rest small tuning things on the next evenings Mar 21 11:55:01 ^^ Mar 21 11:56:25 but it's still strange that you got yours faster than me Mar 21 11:56:37 i was approved nearly one week earlier Mar 21 12:03:12 * Lichtlos got his confirmation on 3/2, still has got no device :( Mar 21 12:04:25 * ice8lue got his on 2/23...still waiting Mar 21 12:04:48 Lichtlos: Adam? Mar 21 12:04:54 ice8lue: peter Mar 21 12:05:22 Peter? Mar 21 12:05:40 "Peter HelM" Mar 21 12:13:35 ahn ok^ Mar 21 12:22:08 hape: Which version of Lotus Traveler server are you using? Mar 21 12:45:35 Let me try if I can find it. But I expect that it is newer as the version you can get outside IBM :-) Mar 21 12:46:47 Lotus Notes Traveler-Version: 8.5.2.1 Build 201012031608 Mar 21 12:48:24 thor968: Here is the discussionabout it => http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/nd85forum.nsf/0/073f704d65d22eb485257846004f45c0?OpenDocument Mar 21 12:51:29 ... Mar 21 12:51:31 This is a case where Palm is using part of the ActiveSync protocol outside of what Apple is using. Traveler is really written to handle what Apple is using and anything outside of that is iffy. This sounds like the Sync command has added the WindowSize XML tag which is valid in the Sync command but Traveler was only looking for other tags and logged this as an unexpected error..... Mar 21 13:29:51 hape: Thanks for your explenation. That's too bad, I still use Domino 8.5.1 with CommonTime mNotes. But actually I wanted to switch to Domino 8.5.2 ... Mar 21 13:32:41 It seem to work parcly. I asked in the traveler department inside IBM but I was abble to convice them to support webOs :-( Mar 21 13:33:25 But there seem to be some new check in the webOs 2.1 account app. Mar 21 13:34:03 I tried to add the traveler server and it complasy about the ssl certificate would not be valid for this domain. Mar 21 13:34:30 I checked the domain on the certificate at it looks fine for me. Not sure where the problem is Mar 21 13:35:18 I had only small glitches with webOs 1.4.5 Mar 21 13:42:20 hape: Isn't there any option to ignore problems with certificates, like it exists in the messenger app? Mar 21 13:43:48 hape: BTW: It's not a support for webOS, it's more the correct support of ActiveSync, or? Mar 21 13:54:05 yep you are right. Traveler only supports a subset of the commands that the EAS protocol defines. Only exactly that subset that the iPhone uses. Mar 21 13:55:33 About the certificate error. There is no butto to ignore the error. And if I open the side in web app I do not get any certificate error. Mar 21 13:56:10 I diden't had the time until now to dig deeper. but will do and post the results in the Palm forum. Mar 21 14:28:27 . Mar 21 14:41:30 Morning all Mar 21 14:53:39 Hey PatrickC_Pre2 Mar 21 14:53:47 got your Pre2 now it seems? ;) Mar 21 14:53:52 Yep :) Mar 21 14:53:58 lucky one Mar 21 14:54:03 gotta wait =( Mar 21 14:54:55 Have you heard anything about yours yet? Mar 21 14:55:05 not really Mar 21 14:55:28 adam told me it wasn't shipped coz they were out of stock one week ago Mar 21 14:55:35 but no news after that... Mar 21 14:55:39 Have you sent a followup? Mar 21 14:55:48 a what? Mar 21 14:55:56 Folowup email Mar 21 14:56:03 To get the current status Mar 21 14:56:31 well I did ask some hours ago, but i think it will take another some hours for an answer Mar 21 14:56:38 (time zone difference) Mar 21 14:57:12 who was your dev relations assistent? Mar 21 14:57:21 Adela Mar 21 14:57:25 hmz Mar 21 14:57:40 ya the Adela people seem to get their's really fast Mar 21 14:57:57 i didnt hear about one of Adams guys getting one Mar 21 14:58:12 Hmm Mar 21 14:59:26 nargh =( Mar 21 14:59:46 Wish I could help.. Mar 21 15:01:22 thx ;) Mar 21 15:02:01 i just want to test my app if it's working on that unit so i can get on further in development Mar 21 15:02:10 I can test ;) Mar 21 15:06:12 I have a Pre- running 2.1 and I'm trying to install the Advanced System Prefs - Framework patch. I should be installing the LEGACY one, correct? Mar 21 15:06:37 Yes Mar 21 15:06:40 I believe so Mar 21 15:06:57 hmm it keeps failing :-( Mar 21 15:07:14 Do you have another framework patch installed? Mar 21 15:08:06 nope Mar 21 15:08:12 Hmmm Mar 21 15:08:17 What is it failing on? Mar 21 15:09:00 I can email the log if you want to pm me an address Mar 21 15:09:56 Willjitsu: see PM Mar 21 15:12:10 brb Mar 21 15:13:01 WillJitsu: I'm not sure what's going wrong Mar 21 15:13:39 :-( Mar 21 15:14:08 well thanks for looking at it anyway Mar 21 15:14:34 Sconix: you here? Mar 21 15:15:22 If sconix is here, they can help you better Mar 21 15:16:02 ok I will check back later. thanks! Mar 21 15:16:25 Np Mar 21 15:43:37 WillJitsu: I remember someone saying that 2.1 for pre2 and 2.1 for O2 doctor had different versions of the frameworks :( not sure if that's been resolved yet Mar 21 15:45:07 destinal: yeah I'm trying to read over the documentation on it. maybe the patches just aren't ready yet. I've tried all the different versions and they all fail Mar 21 15:45:40 WillJitsu: like, Palm made two different 2.1's and they're not the same. that would be a problem for patches Mar 21 15:45:42 to say the least Mar 21 15:45:48 true Mar 21 17:42:18 hiya Mar 21 17:43:09 Hay Mar 21 17:43:45 PatrickC_Pre2: whats this --wifi-only you speak of Mar 21 17:44:11 Check the wiki :) Mar 21 17:45:20 http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Mar 21 17:45:54 ^^ there you go cwayne Mar 21 17:46:07 PatrickC_Pre2: ah, thanks Mar 21 17:46:25 Np Mar 21 17:46:30 It is in there Mar 21 17:46:38 For the 2.1 sprint meta-doctor Mar 21 17:48:12 hoping someone's around who can answer this: if i port a patch that's available for 1.4.5 to 2.1.0 and want to submit it, is it best to submit it as an update to that patch, or to submit it as a new patch labeled, for example, "15px Font for webOS 2.x"? Mar 21 17:48:40 Again hi everybody ... Mar 21 17:48:44 Gmm Mar 21 17:48:48 i'm asking mainly out of concern that it (not specifically 15px font) might break in 1.4.5/etc. Mar 21 17:48:50 Hay thor968 Mar 21 17:49:15 I think as an update. But I'm not totally sure Mar 21 17:49:27 Halfhalo, destinal: you here? Mar 21 17:49:29 I'm still looking for the alpha of LinPhone for webOS, any idea how to get it? Mar 21 17:49:39 i was hoping dbsooner or someone important would be around Mar 21 17:49:42 not that you're not important :) Mar 21 17:49:42 ? Mar 21 17:49:50 PatrickC_Pre2: hey Mar 21 17:50:12 Can either of you answer a question about submitting a patch update for 2.1? Mar 21 17:50:32 i'm just surprised NOBODY'S ported something a patch as simple as THAT to 2.1 yet Mar 21 17:50:53 ~seen dbsooner Mar 21 17:50:54 dbsooner <~dBsooner@unaffiliated/dbsooner> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 303d 11h 36m 20s ago, saying: 'got two 1.5TB drives for RAID1'. Mar 21 17:51:00 i probably SHOULDN'T be though Mar 21 17:51:07 dsevil, well, considering that it isn't a new patch... you should submit it as an update Mar 21 17:51:10 I'm working on porting some/making some new patches for 2.1 Mar 21 17:51:19 Hay cryptk :) Mar 21 17:51:38 also, when you submit a patch, submit just the text .patch file, not the IPK Mar 21 17:52:04 Do you use Unified Diff Creator to make a .patch file, right? Mar 21 17:52:06 i've submitted patches before, i've written a few ;) Mar 21 17:52:07 not sure who, but someone updated the battery icon and vertical percent patch, but they submitted it in an IPK, patch portal takes the plain .patch files Mar 21 17:52:13 dsevil: he was hear only 10 months ago :) Mar 21 17:52:19 PatrickC_Pre2, me personally? no, does it work, yes Mar 21 17:52:22 destinal: lulz Mar 21 17:53:16 cryptk: what about my concern that it MIGHT THEORETICALLY break for 1.4.5 users? Mar 21 17:53:40 (there's other patches i might want to port... i tend to port stuff i use ;) Mar 21 17:53:56 PatrickC_Pre2: unified diff creator may work for those who need it. Linux and OSX have a real diff command at the command line for making patch files Mar 21 17:54:05 dsevil, it won't Mar 21 17:54:19 just on the update, make sure that you don't have 1.4.5 checked, lol Mar 21 17:54:23 ah Mar 21 17:54:40 Destinal: ahh ok. I'm on windows :) Mar 21 17:54:49 * ice8lue is back Mar 21 17:54:50 PatrickC_Pre2:and of course if you have cygwin you could always use diff there also Mar 21 17:54:53 so if i don't check 1.x, the earlier versions that worked for 1.x will still be available for them and won't be "updated"? good. Mar 21 17:55:08 And an other thing: for the 16.04. we are planing a webOS developers workshop in Mainz/Germany. Mar 21 17:55:09 It is planed mostly for German developers and advanced users who are interested in webOS-development. More information you can find at the Nexave-Forum, if you have questions you can contact me (thg) there too: http://www.nexave.de/forum/40749-facebook-gruppe-webos-developers-friends-stammtisch.html Mar 21 17:55:11 not that we would approve it anyway if you did check 1.4.5, since it likely would not apply properly, and therefore would get denied Mar 21 17:55:23 PatrickC_Pre2: i use my own tools but i inspect the .patch files to make sure the Index: and --- and +++ lines look good Mar 21 17:55:53 I haven't made a single patch yet.. So I don't think I need to try and make it myself :p Mar 21 17:56:04 Cwayne: did that help? Mar 21 17:56:28 PatrickC_Pre2: not yet, i was still using metadoctor for my 1.4.5 image, not yet 2.x Mar 21 17:56:47 But did you see what I was talking about? Mar 21 17:59:10 cryptk: thanks a lot Mar 21 17:59:36 the general rules we go by to tell if your patch will get approved... Mar 21 17:59:47 1 - we look at the patch and make sure you aren't doing anything malicious Mar 21 17:59:56 like sending peoples contacts off to some server or something Mar 21 18:00:18 2 - we make sure it will actually apply on all of the versions you select Mar 21 18:00:54 3 - we usually either look at the code, or do a test install to make sure it actually works Mar 21 18:01:05 I've tweeked a couple patches from 1.4.5 and 2.0.1 to work on 2.1, but it was just for personal use Mar 21 18:01:08 cryptk: seems like quite a job. How long does it take to check each patch? Mar 21 18:01:16 a few minutes Mar 21 18:01:20 not too long Mar 21 18:01:29 I might take a stab at some of the email patches tonight Mar 21 18:01:33 you get good at it... and if you know javascript then it is really fast Mar 21 18:01:52 My unread email count has shot up since I moved to 2.1.0 Mar 21 18:02:19 mgschu, I like the one that makes the notifications more useful Mar 21 18:02:31 the one that lets you trash an email right from the notification, etc Mar 21 18:02:37 I'm gonna try and make a patch to the email that forces it to stay "up" Mar 21 18:02:45 I haven't had time to port it to 2.1 yet though Mar 21 18:02:54 Is there one that marks it as read? Mar 21 18:02:57 PatrickC_Pre2, what do you mean stay up? Mar 21 18:03:06 mgschu, not sure if there is or not Mar 21 18:03:09 Orientation not set to "free" Mar 21 18:03:22 Mgschu: check Email Mega Mix Mar 21 18:03:22 oh, so lock it into portrait mode Mar 21 18:03:25 that would be easy Mar 21 18:03:27 Yes Mar 21 18:03:36 And my first patch :) Mar 21 18:03:36 thats how it was before 2.x Mar 21 18:03:40 I know Mar 21 18:03:45 I don't like that either. Useless with a fixed keyboard. And annoying when lying down. Mar 21 18:04:33 And maybe the messaging orientation set to "free" Mar 21 18:05:41 Can patch files change an image to a link? Mar 21 18:05:44 okay, just ported/tested/submitted 15px font, now working on 15px font with bold and italics for completeness. Mar 21 18:05:47 Hard link Mar 21 18:06:32 Working on making "Email Portrait Mode Only" Mar 21 18:12:47 I just need to find out where to put the stuff..... Mar 21 18:12:53 S/stuff/code/ Mar 21 18:17:16 just pushed through all queued patches in the portal Mar 21 18:17:27 they should be in the feeds soon Mar 21 18:18:36 Cool Mar 21 18:18:40 I'm working on mine now Mar 21 18:19:19 Luna-booting to see if my patch works (I just replaced the original file with the moved file) Mar 21 18:23:01 cryptk, I wish there was a wiki page to help with patching, the one I found involved quilt and marked as depreciated Mar 21 18:23:20 RagingMind, make a new one Mar 21 18:23:35 the problem is that I"m the one that needs help with it, heh Mar 21 18:24:22 I know enough to either apply patches that I download manually, or in the case of a couple patches update them by hand (just the line numbers were off) and then they apply okay Mar 21 18:24:41 Didn't work Mar 21 18:24:41 just submitted 15px bold italics. noted that current patch doesn't apply bold. Mar 21 18:24:50 Email app no longer launches Mar 21 18:24:50 but I'm not sure of the steps to actually create a patch in a suitable way to submit them Mar 21 18:26:12 PatrickC_Pre2: did you just change free to up? Mar 21 18:26:23 the "enable virtual keyboard" patch didn't need any updating at all, the 2.0.1 version applies on 2.1 and works Mar 21 18:26:43 the VKB doesn't really work... typing "hello" crashed my pre Mar 21 18:26:53 but it did come up and look pretty :) Mar 21 18:26:56 They didn't put the "setWindowOrientation" in their app-assistant Mar 21 18:27:23 Is it in the stage assistant? Mar 21 18:27:45 There is no stage-assistant Mar 21 18:28:31 Try making a stage assistant to be launched first, then going into the main assistant Mar 21 18:28:54 The problem is.. I don't know which assistant is the main Mar 21 18:28:59 There is no main-assistant Mar 21 18:29:11 Actually, can files be made in a patch? Mar 21 18:29:41 Well, back to the drawing board... Mar 21 18:30:52 Mgschu: you can work on it too, if you want :) Mar 21 18:32:16 I'm in the lab at the moment, should be home in an hour at most Mar 21 18:32:27 Then we can give it a go Mar 21 18:32:27 Have fun at lab! :) Mar 21 18:32:30 Ok Mar 21 18:32:52 Reverted back to original file.. Works fine now :) Mar 21 18:33:38 Hay scoutcamper Mar 21 18:33:57 hmm... a couple times since updating to 2.1 I've gotten a message that my phone couldn't make a data connection and to contact verizon. it never lasts long and it gets a connection after a couple moments Mar 21 18:34:23 it never happened with 1.4.5 and I'm wondering if it's just coincidence with network issues in my area Mar 21 18:34:40 It happened to me on sprint Mar 21 18:34:46 When I was on 1.4.5 Mar 21 18:35:54 My laptop is sad.... Mar 21 18:36:18 The CPU is slower then my old OCed Pixi... Mar 21 18:36:26 from what you've told us about your computer systems thus far, I'd have to agree Mar 21 18:36:40 Lol Mar 21 18:36:46 Try ./app/app_scene.js, looks top-level ish Mar 21 18:36:59 Ok Mar 21 18:37:28 I'm applying the actual .patch file now.. Lets how this goes.. Mar 21 18:38:25 Does the unified diff creator automagicly build into the .patch file a force luna restart? Mar 21 18:38:36 no Mar 21 18:38:39 the postinst does that Mar 21 18:38:50 unified diff creator just makes the diff/patch file Mar 21 18:39:02 Hmm ok Mar 21 18:39:13 you don't need to worry about the luna restarts, or anything else in the IPK Mar 21 18:39:17 My pre just randomly restarted.. I don't remember telling it to Mar 21 18:39:21 Ok Mar 21 18:39:23 just the .patch file, the patches portal handles the rest Mar 21 18:39:29 Sweet Mar 21 18:39:57 now if the diff creator has an option to apply the patch to the device, then it likely does do a luna reboot Mar 21 18:40:18 I applied the patch with webosqi Mar 21 18:41:09 that will do the reboot Mar 21 18:41:10 If in doubt, pkill LunaSysMgr Mar 21 18:41:46 Pkill? Lol Mar 21 18:42:28 Looks for a process and kills it Mar 21 18:42:44 Ah ok Mar 21 18:43:42 Seen tron legacy? The dog image got pkill -9'd Mar 21 18:43:55 * PatrickC_Pre2 hasnt Mar 21 18:48:15 mgschu-cycling, that was funny in tron but not as nifty as what they did in matrix 2 (I think it was 2) Mar 21 18:59:35 * PatrickC_Pre2 is trying a different approach to this Mar 21 19:00:58 there a way to bypass "activation error" without potentially wiping my usb partition in a doctor? Mar 21 19:02:48 "SPL unlocked" looks good... Mar 21 19:02:50 The doctor doesn't *always* wipe the USB partition Mar 21 19:03:05 But, what activation error? Mar 21 19:03:18 Did you try Arthur Thornton's patch yet? Mar 21 19:03:37 "Programming succeeded" also looks good Mar 21 19:04:30 hape: remove the installHistory.db file Mar 21 19:05:20 Hay rwhitby. How's it goin? Mar 21 19:05:39 PatrickC_Pre2: Patch time? Mar 21 19:06:17 I'm trying the approach you suffggested.. Then I have to eat. Then I *might* be able to work on it a little Mar 21 19:06:32 I have a baseball game tonight (I'm an assistant coach) Mar 21 19:07:01 This *mite* work Mar 21 19:07:07 The app_scene.js editing Mar 21 19:07:51 Brb. Time to eat :) Mar 21 19:08:11 Mgschu: I just applied the patch. I'll let you know how it works out Mar 21 19:10:18 heh, okay so I got my phone to activate again, but now it wants me to sign into my profile... but enough data was saved that it still automatically connected me to my wifi Mar 21 19:10:40 I highly recommend not resetting things the way I did Mar 21 19:18:56 How did you do it? :) Mar 21 19:19:41 Mgschu: going the rout of app_scene.js did nothing Mar 21 19:19:55 did the app start? Mar 21 19:19:59 Yes Mar 21 19:20:10 But it still rotates Mar 21 19:22:37 Though... I'm not sure if I changed anything relevant... Mar 21 19:25:50 Mgschu: you can work on it if you want.. I have to get ready to leave for baseball Mar 21 19:26:59 I'll see what I can do Mar 21 19:28:24 * mgschu is annoyed that pandora is not available in his country, and understands why the app is US only Mar 21 19:31:06 * PatrickC_Pre2 doesn't understand fully why it is US only Mar 21 19:37:24 copyright law nonsense Mar 21 19:37:38 the songs are only licensed to stream to the US :-P Mar 21 19:38:36 isn't it also in the UK? Mar 21 19:38:49 :'( Mar 21 19:38:55 anyone know what a code 20 for the modem means? Mar 21 19:38:56 Even tho I am in the US Mar 21 19:39:20 and a code 25 for wifi? Mar 21 19:40:10 No clue Mar 21 19:41:14 RagingMind: I had that on a Pre once. It couldn't connect to any network Mar 21 19:41:22 doctor sorted it out Mar 21 19:41:39 I"m trying to avoid that, I still have pictures on here that I wanna get off Mar 21 19:41:49 seb_or_sam: http://www.pandora.com/restricted US only Mar 21 19:42:10 mgschu: Oh. That sucks. Thanks for the link. Mar 21 19:42:13 RagingMind: just do a media partition backup using the MetaDoctor 'backup' target Mar 21 19:42:15 Alt+sym+u when plugged in via USB? Mar 21 19:42:46 seb_or_sam: we get Spotify, which is pretty cool. You have to pay for it though Mar 21 19:42:57 mgschu: true. Mar 21 19:42:58 also Grooveshark Mar 21 19:43:33 rwhitby, I'm stuck post-activation and pre-profile login and I'm not in devmode, will metadoc know how to get into my pre? Mar 21 19:43:50 yep, memboot can get into anything Mar 21 19:43:56 ah, fun Mar 21 19:44:13 I was just looking into memboot to see if I could manually enable devmode Mar 21 19:45:00 I was thinking recovery mode.. Would that work in a situation like this? Mar 21 19:45:40 I can get to recovery mode easily enough Mar 21 19:45:48 RagingMind: as I said, look at the backup target in the MetaDoctor makefile Mar 21 19:46:09 what I want to *try* right now is getting onto the device so I can flash my modem Mar 21 19:46:23 Bye all Mar 21 19:46:26 G2g Mar 21 19:47:24 I think the ##rtn# has code needs a warning about the reset button. I read in the GPS thread that it could be used to reset the modem to default, and I just kinda assumed that it'd only be the modem and that default would work Mar 21 19:47:31 instead now I'm stuck off-data Mar 21 19:47:33 OOPS Mar 21 19:47:41 *hash code Mar 21 19:49:27 ##rtn# - does that wipe everything? Mar 21 19:51:37 mgschu, maybe? I'll find out once I get onto my pre again Mar 21 20:20:48 hi eveyone Mar 21 20:20:59 NuttyBunny, hello Mar 21 20:21:38 have you looked into anything gps in a while? I was re-reading the gps thread from ebag and saw you posted quite a bit Mar 21 20:24:47 mmm... gps? well, my gps has always worked somehow, not too much trouble there Mar 21 20:25:17 I've been seeing weeeeeeeeeeird stuff with the GPS on a VzW 2.1 Pre+ Mar 21 20:25:25 It... Works? But it seems to travel through time :p Mar 21 20:25:31 Shows you where you were 20 minutes ago Mar 21 20:27:08 I'm still there, so again: any idea how to get the alpha of LinPhone for webOS? Thanks a lot! Mar 21 20:29:27 thor968: what device and sip provider? Mar 21 20:35:31 doctored to vzw 2.1 and still no data connection Mar 21 20:35:37 but now I can novaterm in :) Mar 21 20:37:38 usb drive wiped... oh well Mar 21 20:37:45 doctoring to 1.4.5 *sigh* Mar 21 20:39:14 RagingMind: you didn't do a MetaDoctor 'backup' target first? Mar 21 20:40:05 it didn't do anything just hung at a line saying it was unmounting var Mar 21 20:42:15 did you have it in recovery mode and membooted? Mar 21 20:43:08 no... cause I didn't figured I'd try this rather than potentially getting lost and having to bug people with questions Mar 21 20:43:22 I was hoping that doctoring from 2.1 to 2.1 wouldn't wipe the usb drive Mar 21 20:43:39 it usually doesn't Mar 21 20:43:41 so either it did wipe it... or it was already wiped by the reset I did Mar 21 20:43:48