**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 27 02:59:59 2011 Mar 27 03:26:25 https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/fundamentals.html will this work or do I need to use openal? Mar 27 04:08:13 night all Mar 27 04:37:30 are there any good tutorials about writing services for webOS 2.1? Mar 27 05:54:14 Hi, I am trying to use node.js. I am starting with BasicService example. I address require('http'), but the app complains the 'require' is not defined Mar 27 08:33:28 anyone around? Mar 27 08:35:20 no Mar 27 08:35:27 :D Mar 27 08:36:05 just trying to figure out if anyone's come across a way to save a picture from their app into storage? Mar 27 08:36:27 yes Mar 27 08:36:42 but I don't do it in the normal way. Mar 27 08:36:46 i'm looking at the messaging app since i know it's got a "copy to photos" button in it, but it seems to use a lot of behind the scenes stuff Mar 27 08:36:56 yes Mar 27 08:37:54 the app i'm writing renders images from the web in an image viewer widget, i need to get a local path to send it on by either saving it locally and deleting it, or getting a temporary file name if that exists Mar 27 08:37:58 those are my two ideas anyways Mar 27 08:39:14 I don't use that app and my is way out in left field so its not worth trying to force it to do it my way. Mar 27 08:39:27 my app that is. Mar 27 08:39:54 hmm Mar 27 08:41:00 my app will not be showing up in any catalog so its not helpful...sorry. Mar 27 08:41:17 neither will mine :) Mar 27 08:41:35 guess i'll fire up the debugger and see if there's some undocumented property i can take advantage of Mar 27 08:42:18 ya, its not easy and I am not using even a language that is native or used on the devices. Mar 27 08:43:47 I use raw sysfs calls. Mar 27 08:43:56 and its written in erlang Mar 27 08:45:20 lol Mar 27 08:45:46 it works. Mar 27 08:45:51 after a fashion Mar 27 08:50:12 like I said..not much help. Mar 27 08:59:45 debugger is failing me :/ Mar 27 09:13:51 hah, tried that messaging API and i get "Not permitted to send to com.palm.messaging" :( Mar 27 09:13:56 jerks Mar 27 09:19:02 I just have to store them and hope I can recover the device after the mission. Mar 27 09:20:06 i'm not even sure i know what that means... Mar 27 09:20:41 I'm taking pictures and geotagging them along with accelerometer data. Mar 27 09:20:56 and storing them on the device Mar 27 09:21:27 havent' been able to get altitude info out of the GPS but it might not be there. Mar 27 09:21:35 oh hmm Mar 27 09:22:43 i'm writing an app for a picture sharing site and adding "share" functionality so i can SMS/e-mail pictures that might come up. it seems like there should be a temp file stored somewhere as each image is loaded into the imageview widget Mar 27 09:22:52 I"m flying a pixi on a balloon mission. Mar 27 09:22:53 or downloaded Mar 27 09:22:56 oooh cool Mar 27 09:23:02 good luck, pixi Mar 27 09:23:29 I'm concerned it will be too cold and quit Mar 27 09:23:41 so I have to do env testing. Mar 27 09:23:50 that's a pretty real possibility Mar 27 09:23:52 the battery can't stand the cold. Mar 27 09:24:25 so I have to fake that out. Mar 27 09:24:47 what about encasing it in something and giving it a viewport so the camera can still see out Mar 27 09:25:13 yes, thats being done..its in styrofoam with a viewport Mar 27 09:25:33 but if the parachute fails things could get UGLY. Mar 27 09:25:38 heh Mar 27 09:26:00 well that sounds like a lot of fun. i need to get some sleep so i can be semi-functional tomorrow. hopefully i can come up with a solution :/ Mar 27 09:26:03 night Mar 27 09:26:14 GL Mar 27 09:26:15 nite Mar 27 09:56:20 terminal velocity is 172kph or 47.72m/s Mar 27 11:47:22 hi Mar 27 11:47:39 how can I package a patch I made as an ipk? Mar 27 11:50:54 http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Mar 27 11:55:58 isnt there an way where I can simply package my (not quite ready yet) patch as an ipkg for some more private testing? Mar 27 11:56:52 I was hoping form some simple cmd line tool to help me with that Mar 27 12:31:45 how much does the pre weigh? Mar 27 13:22:06 yaaawn Mar 27 13:22:45 mroning masterhit Mar 27 13:30:19 hi all Mar 27 13:30:37 hi Mar 27 13:30:38 trying to install debian on a preplus Mar 27 13:30:51 a full debian install? Mar 27 13:31:21 nah the small image Mar 27 13:31:28 im following the wiki Mar 27 13:31:32 but i get a root@my-name`s Palm Pre:/# Mar 27 13:31:32 sh: bad substitution: no closing "`" in `s Palm Pre:/# Mar 27 13:31:34 link? Mar 27 13:31:44 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Debian#Deactivating_Debian_Rootfs: Mar 27 13:31:51 i think it's the " Mar 27 13:32:03 i think it's the "`" that is causing the error Mar 27 13:32:08 so how do i rename my pre Mar 27 13:33:03 are you using cmd or terminal to connect to your pre? Mar 27 13:33:05 is it easy to rename it so root@something instead of my-name`s Palm Pre Mar 27 13:33:12 i find terminal is less of a hassle Mar 27 13:33:46 cmd Mar 27 13:33:50 with "C:\Program Files\Palm, Inc\novacom.exe" -t open tty:// Mar 27 13:34:00 do you have linux installed? Mar 27 13:34:06 nope win7 Mar 27 13:34:15 oh Mar 27 13:34:29 idk, i always use ubuntu for messing around with my phone Mar 27 13:34:53 if push comes to shove i will install some nix even though im a total noob at it Mar 27 13:35:08 but i want to hack it on windows and hopefully update the wiki Mar 27 13:35:18 oh :3 Mar 27 13:35:33 actually im trying to run x terminal and x server but chroot debian is one of the steps Mar 27 13:35:48 so how do i rename my device ;] Mar 27 13:35:56 no clue Mar 27 13:36:15 never done anything that required to change the name of my device Mar 27 13:36:28 im sure someone here knows Mar 27 13:36:36 so i hope one of the big boys will help when they wake up Mar 27 13:36:41 im in europe Mar 27 13:37:31 im gonna try it the hard way and type it from the pre now Mar 27 13:37:34 see how that goes ;] Mar 27 13:40:30 lol get your magnifying glass :3 Mar 27 13:49:07 hmm i found out how to change it Mar 27 13:49:16 now time to think how wise is to thinker with it Mar 27 13:49:17 :D Mar 27 14:03:32 how do i get my msl without calling sprint Mar 27 14:08:21 heh, i love palms profile mechanism Mar 27 14:08:47 automatically wipes previous phone :D Mar 27 14:09:00 yeah that's good and bad Mar 27 14:09:25 MihMih, did you figure it out? Mar 27 14:09:32 it's in the "device info" card Mar 27 14:10:31 RagingMind - i used sysctl kernel.hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME Mar 27 14:11:02 that might work, heh Mar 27 14:11:11 temporary solution it will be gone upon reboot Mar 27 14:11:18 i think im into debian now Mar 27 14:11:25 and apt-got icewm Mar 27 14:11:26 but in the device info card you can change it, and it changes what shows up at your shell in novaterm Mar 27 14:11:36 so will the actual debian desktop show up on the pre? Mar 27 14:11:41 though that might not be hostname and could be a special palm variable thing Mar 27 14:11:52 well if i find a way to start it Mar 27 14:12:12 good luck brah Mar 27 14:12:20 now i wish i never sold my pre Mar 27 14:13:12 can always give startx a try ;) Mar 27 14:14:35 how much should i sell my sprint pre w/ wifi? Mar 27 14:14:43 pixi* Mar 27 14:14:56 MihMih, the chroot command "starts" debian Mar 27 14:15:35 as for X... did you install it? it's in preware Mar 27 14:15:50 I think the version that works is just in the testing feeds though Mar 27 14:16:26 i did Mar 27 14:16:42 question is how do i start the window manager Mar 27 14:18:13 dtzWill, ping? Mar 27 14:31:07 sucess lol Mar 27 14:31:16 can i post an image link here or i will be kicked ? Mar 27 14:31:42 dont see why not Mar 27 14:31:48 image of what Mar 27 14:32:28 my pre running debian with icewm ;] Mar 27 14:33:27 i wanna see Mar 27 14:36:20 ok ill reboot my pre since i borked usb mode somehow Mar 27 14:36:23 ;] Mar 27 14:36:29 lol Mar 27 14:38:22 rwhitby, webOS uses ipkg and not opkg? Mar 27 14:38:45 ipkg Mar 27 14:39:10 and the optware install in preware is ipkg? Mar 27 14:39:53 not sure, never really looked at optware. but im pretty sure its ipkg. Mar 27 14:40:44 http://i.imgur.com/45zVo.png Mar 27 14:40:49 http://i.imgur.com/BbISV.png Mar 27 14:46:20 MihMih, nifty Mar 27 14:46:43 there are wm's that are designed for mobile/touch interfaces too Mar 27 14:46:57 does icewm work all that well? Mar 27 14:47:38 define well Mar 27 14:48:14 this is the first wm i use since years ago when i played with fedora on a desktop for university's purposes Mar 27 14:48:35 two hours ago i didnt know a nix command other than "ls" :D Mar 27 14:48:48 is what you can do limited because icewm expects that you can right click? Mar 27 14:49:33 yeah i cant right click as of now Mar 27 14:49:49 in the forums there is suggestion to use matchbox wm which is what im gonna try next Mar 27 14:51:32 I"ve been wanting to try matchbox in x on my pre for a long while, I've just been lazy :( Mar 27 14:53:59 MihMih, http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ Mar 27 14:54:40 oof... some of that is not quite so pretty Mar 27 14:58:21 though shr seems much more up to date Mar 27 14:58:51 well there is a screenshot of it running on Palm Zire Z2 Mar 27 14:58:55 i dont see why not pre ;] Mar 27 15:01:13 SHR might be a better place to pull parts from, looks like gpe isn't touched much anymore Mar 27 15:01:58 and matchbox hasn't been touched in a while either... but shr uses illume apparently. I'm still researching though Mar 27 15:03:38 SHR requires kernel flashing though and im not doing it on my only and main phone Mar 27 15:04:05 this means it is completely overwriting webos Mar 27 15:04:19 im much more comfortable running debian on an X in a card Mar 27 15:05:13 I'm with ya on that one Mar 27 15:05:29 but that's not what I was getting at Mar 27 15:06:02 SHR would be a good source of information on what X packages might work best Mar 27 15:06:27 even in the card :) so it might be better to try illume than matchbox or icewm Mar 27 15:08:42 isnt it called enlightnement now - http://www.enlightenment.org/ Mar 27 15:09:15 illume is a module ontop of enlightenment to make it work better on mobile devices Mar 27 15:09:26 * RagingMind is still reading up on all this Mar 27 15:18:35 im so paranoid about activation when the person recieves this re Mar 27 15:18:36 pre Mar 27 15:21:18 hopefully first use app wont be buggy when activating Mar 27 15:35:12 anyone know how to save a web image to disk or pass it on via MMS? Mar 27 15:35:58 given an url Mar 27 15:41:37 i think theres a patch in preware Mar 27 15:41:52 context menu or something Mar 27 15:42:14 gesture + tap for context menu Mar 27 15:42:22 should give you an ooption to save or send in message Mar 27 15:45:53 how do i shut down webos from keyboard Mar 27 15:46:07 Grizzler: shutdown -h -P now Mar 27 15:46:14 er, that will kill the phone, if that's what you want Mar 27 15:46:18 also, i'm talking programatically Mar 27 15:46:28 lol yeah, i need the key combination Mar 27 15:46:39 like orange + sym + r = reboot Mar 27 15:46:41 oh oh, i thought terminal for some reason Mar 27 15:46:44 lol Mar 27 15:47:18 ya, i only know reboot, that one and hold the power button slide the ringer switch back and forth three times Mar 27 15:48:19 ok Mar 27 15:48:22 as a side note, i'm watching Aladdin 2 for the first time, it really makes me mad when they make sequels and change everything (voices, artists, average intelligence) Mar 27 15:48:53 lol phone rebooted Mar 27 15:49:21 the power button is hard to press, hence the reason why i need an alternative way Mar 27 16:09:51 the old paper-in-between-button trick worked like a charm :D Mar 27 16:13:26 hey guys Mar 27 16:15:13 hi ice8lue Mar 27 16:15:53 wha's up? Mar 27 16:17:04 nothing much. just poking around on the interwebs Mar 27 16:17:06 you Mar 27 16:22:25 trying to get my facebook content back on my pre@2.1.0 Mar 27 16:27:48 what do you mean by content Mar 27 16:29:31 * RagingMind is building a debian image so that he can update the Debian entry in the wOSI wiki to use something more adaptable Mar 27 16:39:29 my contacts Mar 27 16:39:36 their info, pics and so on Mar 27 16:47:13 * ice8lue wonders when his pre2 dev device will finally arrive.... 1 month so far =( Mar 27 16:48:03 GL Mar 27 16:48:20 still waiting for mine that is supposed to ship the 29th :D Mar 27 16:53:55 at least you know when it will ship ;) Mar 27 16:54:06 i'm just told 'soon' Mar 27 16:54:18 and that they are backedup Mar 27 17:07:36 how much should i sell my sprit pixi with wifi? Mar 27 17:09:59 $40 Mar 27 17:17:48 ok Mar 27 17:18:00 im selling for $45 w/ free shipping :3 Mar 27 17:18:21 what is the stock MHz set for the pixi's processor? Mar 27 17:19:18 thought it was 600 or 620 Mar 27 17:27:29 ok thnx Mar 27 17:27:40 heh, jus made my new listing :D Mar 27 17:27:40 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160564965146&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Mar 27 17:53:35 so does anyone know if / how i can help alpha test linphone? Mar 27 17:58:17 is webos quick install supposed to take a long time with installing ipk files? Mar 27 17:59:11 i'm not very experienced, but i don't think that's happened to me Mar 27 17:59:21 what ipk are you installing? Mar 27 17:59:36 i'll give it a try if i can find my usb cable Mar 27 17:59:54 the one made for flash player for webos 2 on pre plus Mar 27 18:00:07 it been going at that one for like 15 mins now... Mar 27 18:00:37 i've honestly never tried that one, i was actually planning on doing the manual install of flash on my pre minus Mar 27 18:01:55 i'll see if i can try out though Mar 27 18:01:57 the manual patch actually looked easier lol, but just assumed the first one would have more support Mar 27 18:02:26 i don't know what i should do now though, do i end the program? Mar 27 18:04:26 i guess worst case scenario is you'd have to restore your phone Mar 27 18:04:42 but i doubt it'd be that bad Mar 27 18:05:09 my best guess is that you could end the program, then try again, or try the manual patch Mar 27 18:05:19 at least that's what i'd try Mar 27 18:05:20 well ended program andthe phone acted like nothing happened lol Mar 27 18:05:45 ill try that, just going to see one more time if i didnt mess up on the ipk package Mar 27 18:06:58 hopefully you'll get it working Mar 27 18:07:32 flash on the pre- is not really worth it Mar 27 18:07:46 even when overclocked? Mar 27 18:07:52 it's damn slow and buggy, even when you OC to 1GHz Mar 27 18:08:15 I tried it on 3 different pre- phones and it's not usable Mar 27 18:08:31 it just needs more ra Mar 27 18:08:33 ram Mar 27 18:08:40 good to know. i'll probably give it a shot anyway though Mar 27 18:08:52 my pre is just for fun Mar 27 18:09:02 and it's horribly beaten up Mar 27 18:09:05 pre doesn't seem to like having large files copied to it in drive mode Mar 27 18:09:08 it runs ok on a + one though ice? Mar 27 18:09:23 i don't have a + Mar 27 18:09:35 but i think it should be BETTER there Mar 27 18:09:41 maybe not good, but better Mar 27 18:09:43 the + has twice as much ram, so i'd hope it runs better Mar 27 18:10:57 what you mean rag? Mar 27 18:12:27 any files bigger than 4GB wouldn't be supported by the FAT32 filesystem Mar 27 18:13:10 oh Mar 27 18:13:44 without any more info that'd be my best guess Mar 27 18:14:30 i dont think this webos quickinstall can do anything without freezing up lol Mar 27 18:14:39 i tried installing something else and its doing the same Mar 27 18:15:31 weird Mar 27 18:18:02 i'd probably try a manual install at this point Mar 27 18:18:23 ya..this doesnt seem like its working Mar 27 18:18:51 i'd try to help more, but i don't have my usb cable with me :( Mar 27 18:19:56 oh woops i found out what i was doing wrong Mar 27 18:21:16 ok i got 1 out of 2 installed Mar 27 18:21:38 looked like i got it to work finally Mar 27 18:21:47 nice Mar 27 18:22:16 i found out i wasnt supposed to have it in usb connected mode, just needed to leave it in charging mode Mar 27 18:22:25 that'd do it Mar 27 18:23:10 you'll have to let us know how well it runs Mar 27 18:23:40 yep trying it out now Mar 27 18:27:25 i don't suppose you know anything about linphone do you? Mar 27 18:28:25 linphone? Mar 27 18:29:02 it's a sip calling software that's getting alpha tested right now Mar 27 18:29:18 i actually joined the channel hoping to try it out Mar 27 18:29:29 this flash thing is a disaster Mar 27 18:29:40 i havent got one page to load with it yet Mar 27 18:29:52 that sucks Mar 27 18:30:27 the blue loading circle goes wither 40-75% of the way then stops, the big gray spinning circle comes on the screen, and it keeps repeating over and over again Mar 27 18:30:56 have you tried multiple sites? Mar 27 18:31:23 tried with Palm, chrysler, cnet, aol desided to redirect me to the iphone version Mar 27 18:31:43 well that just sucks Mar 27 18:31:57 hi Mar 27 18:32:03 hi meta Mar 27 18:32:50 no flash does suck. i just switched to android from an old iphone 3g and the flash support is really handy Mar 27 18:34:42 this is my first smartphone lol. my first phone and previous phone was a sony erricson slider so rlly no way to be dissapointed with this thing even if it cant do anything Mar 27 18:35:21 is andriod any good Mar 27 18:35:47 on my current phone, it's really nice. there's a ton of software available for it Mar 27 18:35:58 although i actually prefer the webos interface Mar 27 18:36:05 so you have 2 phones? Mar 27 18:36:48 i tend to collect old phones. i've never had service for my pre though, i bought it on ebay for $20 to play around with Mar 27 18:37:50 ah. you should of bought my sony erricson slider...it kept forgetting everything and turned off after 20 mins... at&t took it for free...xD Mar 27 18:38:00 it's really beat up. the camera and flash don't work, the slider feels like it'll fall apart any time and the glass is chipped and cracked. oh, and the esn is banned on sprint, so i couldn't activate it even if i wanted to Mar 27 18:38:19 esn? Mar 27 18:38:43 it's a sprint phone, the esn is the cdma version of the imei Mar 27 18:39:00 basically the unique device serial number Mar 27 18:39:07 oh Mar 27 18:41:48 well i found out palms website doesnt work on webos browser regardless lol Mar 27 18:41:54 so no point in trying with that one Mar 27 18:42:06 ironic huh Mar 27 18:42:16 yeah, that is weird Mar 27 18:42:50 what about it doesn't work? Mar 27 18:42:51 hey MetaView Mar 27 18:43:01 it wont load period Mar 27 18:43:18 www.palm.com/us? Mar 27 18:43:43 no with or without flash it wont Mar 27 18:43:43 i've got it loaded and looking good on my pre without flash right now Mar 27 18:44:16 are you running webos 2? Mar 27 18:44:20 ya Mar 27 18:45:01 it seems to work fine for me Mar 27 18:47:30 ok so does anyone know how to troubleshoot this? Mar 27 18:48:06 omod, my pre didn't like the 512MB file I tried coping to it Mar 27 18:48:41 i guess that throws my 4GB+ file idea out the window Mar 27 18:49:29 does it start copying at all, or does it throw an error imeadiatly? Mar 27 18:50:08 I got the file to my pre, and it handles it fine once there Mar 27 18:50:18 but it just doesn't copy the whole thing Mar 27 18:50:27 stopped at about 300MB Mar 27 18:51:01 I've had issues before with large files coping over (100-200MB) sometimes it'll pause for a while then start again Mar 27 18:51:15 it's been like that with the 3 pres I've had Mar 27 18:51:34 have you tried different usb cables and ports? Mar 27 18:52:02 if you want i can try copying over a 2gb movie and see if i get the same issue if thats the case Mar 27 18:52:25 irockster9: palm site loads fine on here (AT&T Pre+ with 1.4.5) Mar 27 18:52:27 omod, Yup Mar 27 18:52:43 I copied it this last time using novacom and it all went fine Mar 27 18:52:46 rockster, are you faking your browser version? Mar 27 18:53:30 i dont even know Mar 27 18:53:46 i'm trying to find the patch right now Mar 27 18:54:29 for what Mar 27 18:55:27 omg my phone is officially borked Mar 27 18:55:34 to change your browser user agent id. that might explain why it's not working right Mar 27 18:56:00 none of the websites pretty much work w/ or without flash except google, facebook, and msnbc Mar 27 18:56:06 if your user agent id is set to iphone, that might explain why flash doesn't work Mar 27 18:56:30 and why you got redirected to the iphone version of that one site Mar 27 18:57:21 because i click go to desktop version and i was already on mobile Mar 27 18:59:02 is there a way to access webos system files on the phone Mar 27 18:59:07 like the actual linux files or no Mar 27 18:59:13 yes Mar 27 18:59:24 there's a terminal app Mar 27 18:59:32 and novacom, i think Mar 27 18:59:45 or sh Mar 27 18:59:48 *ssh Mar 27 18:59:49 eh i just wanted to double check if i had all the flash files put in Mar 27 19:00:33 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:Accessing_Linux Mar 27 19:00:44 that should get you started Mar 27 19:01:16 i think you'd just need to get novaterm from there Mar 27 19:02:03 thanks but ill just go without flash Mar 27 19:02:49 sorry it didn't work out :( Mar 27 19:02:59 unless if someone can check the flash file folder i created and see if i screwed up somewhere in it Mar 27 19:03:14 if you send it to me, i'll give it a look Mar 27 19:04:44 k need to find a free file sharing place Mar 27 19:05:22 assuming you're using mirc, you can just right click on my name and dcc send it to me Mar 27 19:05:30 http://rapidshare.com/files/454673290/FlashPlugin.zip Mar 27 19:05:39 i just ziped it so i could upload it Mar 27 19:05:55 i'll check it out right now Mar 27 19:06:52 thanks Mar 27 19:08:55 actually, i might see what could be wrong. with the ipk package, i was told to direct it to the files folder of that whole folder Mar 27 19:09:14 but wouldnt that leave the files "control" "postinst" and "prerm" out? Mar 27 19:10:13 that i'm not sure about, i've never made ipks before Mar 27 19:10:40 those files might be read by ipk packer automatically Mar 27 19:11:54 hmm then idk Mar 27 19:13:11 in FlashPlugin\files\usr\lib\BrowserServerPlugins Mar 27 19:13:36 in the instructions, i don't see a reference to the folder FlashMiniAdapterData that you have in your zip Mar 27 19:13:49 i'm not sure if that'd cause a problem though Mar 27 19:14:32 in the wiki it shows one as "/usr/lib/BrowserServerPlugins/FlashMiniAdapterData/plugin-icon-noplay.png" Mar 27 19:14:34 i'll try to make a ipk myself and see if it works Mar 27 19:15:02 i'll make an ipk and see if i get get it installed Mar 27 19:15:23 k thanks sorry dragging you into this Mar 27 19:15:37 no problem, i've been meaning to install flash anyway Mar 27 19:16:13 if your files don't work, i'll try to extract them myself. if that works, i'll send you that ipk Mar 27 19:16:33 ok sounds good Mar 27 19:17:27 lucky im on a wifi network with this flash player screw ups lol...ma bell wouldn't be too happy with all that data usage Mar 27 19:18:23 that's true Mar 27 19:18:28 technically you can't send him the ipk legally Mar 27 19:18:38 so best not to discuss such things here Mar 27 19:19:04 well i can at least see if i can get it working Mar 27 19:19:10 on my pre that is Mar 27 19:19:11 of course :) Mar 27 19:19:16 well can he at least send me his assembled flashplugin file? Mar 27 19:19:26 the non-assembled one by the ipk Mar 27 19:19:51 irockster9, he can't send anything that includes the actual flash bits pulled from a doctor Mar 27 19:20:06 ok Mar 27 19:20:33 oh... and use preware to install, not quick install Mar 27 19:20:56 so what i actually uploaded to rapidshare was illegal? Mar 27 19:21:03 I've heard nothing but headache from people trying quickinstall... until the use preware and it works Mar 27 19:21:04 so RagingMind, do you know anything about linphone? Mar 27 19:21:14 preware? Mar 27 19:21:16 the patch to show the options is also in preware now too Mar 27 19:21:33 does preware have a desktop app? Mar 27 19:21:35 omod, I've tried it, but I"m not a dev Mar 27 19:21:49 irockster9, no. it's an on-device package manager Mar 27 19:22:09 but how would you get the flash ipk on it Mar 27 19:22:57 i'm sticking it on my dropbox account Mar 27 19:23:16 and downloading and installing via the web browser on the pre Mar 27 19:23:36 irockster9, usb drive mode Mar 27 19:24:56 and it seems like i dont have dev mode/preware on my phone anymore since i upgraded, how would i get them back Mar 27 19:26:31 ~preware Mar 27 19:26:31 [preware] the universal package installer for webOS, see the Preware Homebrew Documentation app in the official app catalog for installation instructions. Mar 27 19:26:37 heh Mar 27 19:26:48 also install.preware.org Mar 27 19:27:33 hmm... not loading. I probably have the wrong link Mar 27 19:27:54 what do you do to do dev mode Mar 27 19:28:05 i know its like a bunch of hardware motions but idk what they are Mar 27 19:30:53 irockster9, what device/os do you have? Mar 27 19:31:18 ok i got it justn eed to get preware on it now Mar 27 19:32:48 ok preware on Mar 27 19:33:46 i don't think there's a whole lot i can do without my usb cable Mar 27 19:34:09 amazon has 'em cheap I believe.. Mar 27 19:34:32 i've got 2 at home, i'm just not at home right now Mar 27 19:34:53 it was the one thing i forgot to grab when i left Mar 27 19:34:53 ah ok Mar 27 19:35:09 * RagingMind is playing with debian chroot Mar 27 19:35:15 actually 3. i always forget about the one pulled into my touchstone Mar 27 19:35:33 lol Mar 27 19:35:44 and apparently the debian environment I chose (for embedded systems) is a little *too* lean Mar 27 19:36:12 what happened? Mar 27 19:36:16 no apt Mar 27 19:36:44 wow, i've never heard of a debian without apt Mar 27 19:36:59 emdebian grip Mar 27 19:37:17 for small things... apparently a bit smaller than I thought Mar 27 19:38:10 neat. unfortunatly for me, my coding ability is almost nonexistant Mar 27 19:38:47 ok so i just just uninstalled the flash patching from webos quickinstall with preware, then upload the ipk to my skydrive or something and then have preware on the phone install it? Mar 27 19:39:23 Yup, the ipk and the patch (it's in preware feeds already) Mar 27 19:39:33 oh ok cool Mar 27 19:41:06 anyone else hate seeing that hp bootsplash now Mar 27 19:41:19 I do. so I changed it Mar 27 19:41:24 yeah Mar 27 19:41:37 woot they have that in preware now..getting it lol Mar 27 19:41:46 I see it too Mar 27 19:41:50 but, its fine with me Mar 27 19:42:06 it was kinda like just knowing that you bought the loser company phone but hp comes in to rub it in ur face Mar 27 19:42:06 the boot splash wasn't in preware, that was part of meta-doc Mar 27 19:42:18 no i mean i want the palm one back ll Mar 27 19:42:20 *lol Mar 27 19:53:29 hey looks like flash player is working Mar 27 19:53:35 nice Mar 27 19:54:07 or i think.. i got alienware.com to render beautifully and its transitition the 1-2-3s Mar 27 19:54:34 might not be flash tho Mar 27 19:57:34 ok for sure flash is working.. chrysler.com actually loads flash faster then IE9 on the computer... thanks much raging Mar 27 19:58:21 lol Mar 27 20:07:15 i have problems establishing the IPCP layer (for a ppp data connection). Are there any special variables or directives necessary for the Pre modem? Mar 27 20:08:02 no idea Mar 27 20:09:39 the interesting thing to observe is Mar 27 20:09:52 Jan 1 03:30:45 palmpre daemon.info pppd[2960]: CHAP authentication succeeded Mar 27 20:09:52 Jan 1 03:30:45 palmpre daemon.debug pppd[2960]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Mar 27 20:09:52 Jan 1 03:30:45 palmpre user.info kernel: [12626.480000] cdc_acm 1-1:1.0: connection speed change: 262144 bps up, 0 bps down Mar 27 20:09:52 Jan 1 03:30:45 palmpre user.info kernel: [12626.510000] cdc_acm 1-1:1.0: connection speed change: 262144 bps up, 262144 bps down Mar 27 20:10:10 after that nothing i sent gets a reply Mar 27 20:11:49 has palm tech support been able to help you with this Mar 27 20:12:14 no, sorry, i have to give you more context. this is not when using WebOS, but a custom OS Mar 27 20:12:27 oh...ok makes sense lol Mar 27 20:12:45 note that i'm using an unpatched pppd Mar 27 20:12:52 a custom OS? hmm.. which? :) Mar 27 20:12:53 i'll investigate the WebOS patches to pppd Mar 27 20:13:07 PatrickC_Pre2: OpenEmbedded-based Linux with FSO middleware and SHR user interface Mar 27 20:15:02 geist, what is port 6971 on novacomd for, i figured out the other 3 Mar 27 20:15:39 so does anyone know how / if i could help alpha test Linphone? Mar 27 20:17:37 omod, ask rwhitby or taibud(sp?) Mar 27 20:18:08 thanks, i appreciate the help Mar 27 20:18:22 ok im logging off since i have no more of a reason of being on here...thanks extremely to everyone that helped me with the flash... it runs beautifully on almost every website (couldnt get hulu to play any tv shows.. of course) but even palm's websites working to.. recommend installing to anyone with a pre plus Mar 27 22:01:44 heyho Mar 27 22:02:53 any of you guys figured out how to get a local file reference to something rendered in an imageview? Mar 27 22:32:34 anyone need any pixi parts Mar 27 22:33:50 a full pixi maybe^^ Mar 27 22:36:18 I'll take 'em all for free ;) Mar 27 22:36:53 u got your Pre2^^ Mar 27 22:37:46 so, will go to sleep now Mar 27 22:37:49 cu guys Mar 27 22:37:57 night Mar 27 22:38:27 I have every webOS device, but the pixi/pixi plus Mar 27 22:38:54 lol Mar 27 22:39:53 i'll sell the pixi (no wifi) for $15 w/ $3 shipping. im waiting for this guy to reply to me. if he dosent want it, then you guys can take it Mar 27 22:40:33 holy crap! someone just bought my pixi! Mar 27 22:41:01 verizon pixi is still up for grabs :) ($15 w/ $3 shipping) Mar 27 22:41:26 lol, I'm on sprint, so vzw does me no good :p Mar 27 22:41:30 good luck Mar 27 22:41:47 lol thanks Mar 27 22:41:49 $15 is a really good price for 'em Mar 27 22:41:55 buy-it-now? Mar 27 22:41:59 yeah Mar 27 22:42:09 the vzw should sell Mar 27 22:42:11 right Mar 27 22:42:12 as im feeling good right now, i'll just forget about shipping. $15 flat Mar 27 22:42:14 about... Mar 27 22:42:15 lol no wifi :P Mar 27 22:42:18 when it sells :p Mar 27 22:42:34 no wifi on what? the vzw one? Mar 27 22:45:25 yeah Mar 27 22:45:37 i used the board on the sprint pixi Mar 27 22:45:57 so, the sprint pixi has wifi? Mar 27 22:46:07 yeah Mar 27 22:46:12 sold for $45 :3 Mar 27 22:46:30 wow Mar 27 22:46:48 yeah, i bought both of them for under $20 Mar 27 22:46:54 together* Mar 27 22:49:41 sprint is gonna be like "wtf" since i swapped the same number twice already for today Mar 27 22:50:22 why? lol Mar 27 22:52:44 oil: ping Mar 27 22:54:47 PatrickC_Pre2: i sold a Pre, and Pixi today. I'm going to transfer over to my Centro. Mar 27 22:55:09 can someone tell me the last time Lumberjack was updated? Mar 27 22:55:15 Centro? why? Mar 27 22:55:43 the only Palm phone i have left :3 Mar 27 22:55:56 but you *had* others :p Mar 27 22:56:01 had :P Mar 27 22:56:05 why are you selling them all? lol Mar 27 22:56:53 gotta raise enough money to pay for my senior dues for HS. i told my mom i dont want to be dependent on her anymore and im taking matters into my own hands Mar 27 22:57:11 ah I see Mar 27 22:57:16 well, good for you :) Mar 27 22:59:31 yeah, if push comes to shove, i'll probably end up selling the centro and reside back to my old black and white flip phone. nothing will ever be the same again. Mar 27 22:59:43 lol Mar 27 22:59:57 lol Mar 27 23:00:06 lets hope that does happen Mar 27 23:00:44 :3 if anything, i'll just upgrade my line to a pixi again. i have an upgrade due in may. Mar 27 23:08:56 anyone used the attachment parameter here http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1660&Itemid=278 Mar 27 23:08:57 trying to figure out how to pass a file path Mar 27 23:30:39 hi everyone Mar 27 23:31:14 mmm... something tells me that I did left the other session at my home's desktop :S Mar 28 00:01:03 anyone have a link to the palm profile account panel Mar 28 00:01:10 the website i mean Mar 28 00:12:58 palm.com/profile ?? Mar 28 01:14:28 #sjkdfjk Mar 28 02:03:49 oil: you here? my preware is saying that an app (lumberjack) was last released in November last year.. Mar 28 02:03:56 or anyone that could help Mar 28 02:04:40 I'm checking now to see if it still says it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 28 02:59:57 2011