**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 02:59:58 2011 Apr 03 03:11:03 ~seen dtzWill Apr 03 03:11:04 dtzwill is currently on #webos-internals, last said: 'i'm busy :('. Apr 03 03:16:07 <__phil__> hi all, I'm trying to upgrade my Verizon Palm Pre Plus to 2.1.0 via the Cygwin instructions and I'm getting: Invalid or corrupt jarfile build/meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0/webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar Apr 03 03:18:35 <__phil__> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/5mMKzMUA Apr 03 03:30:02 <__phil__> anybody? Apr 03 03:32:23 hello Apr 03 03:33:44 <__phil__> hi willalmo Apr 03 03:34:16 <__phil__> willalmo: I'm trying to upgrade my Verizon Palm Pre Plus to 2.1.0 via the Cygwin instructions and I'm getting: Invalid or corrupt jarfile build/meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0/webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar -- I've put the pastebin of the log here: http://pastebin.com/5mMKzMUA Apr 03 03:37:34 <__phil__> rwhitb might you have a moment? Apr 03 03:37:44 <__phil__> rwhitby might you have a moment? Apr 03 03:48:46 __phil__, that jar file should be built, meaning you can navigate to that directory and run it manually Apr 03 03:49:09 <__phil__> scoutcamper: when I run it manually, I get the same error message Apr 03 03:49:23 is java installed? Apr 03 03:50:23 <__phil__> $ java -version Apr 03 03:50:24 <__phil__> java version "1.5.0_21" Apr 03 03:50:26 <__phil__> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_21-b01) Apr 03 03:50:27 <__phil__> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_21-b01, mixed mode) Apr 03 03:50:35 thats way old java Apr 03 03:50:50 <__phil__> *doh* Apr 03 03:51:24 java version "1.6.0_24" Apr 03 03:51:24 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Apr 03 03:51:24 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing) Apr 03 03:51:26 <__phil__> do I need to download the latest setup.exe from cygwin Apr 03 03:51:39 no, go to java's website and download new java Apr 03 03:53:09 <__phil__> oh it's using my windows java Apr 03 03:53:11 <__phil__> gotcha Apr 03 03:55:50 <__phil__> I already had it -- just had env var set to java 1.5 jdk Apr 03 03:56:56 according to what you pastebinned java has the problem, the doctor built right Apr 03 03:56:58 <__phil__> scoutcamper thanks for the tip -- running with new java Apr 03 03:57:04 cool Apr 03 03:57:05 :D Apr 03 03:57:24 <__phil__> I clobbered it already so this will be a completely brand new build Apr 03 03:58:09 <__phil__> hoping I'll be able to install Skype for WebOS -- I have a Pre2 on AT&T and it doesn't let me install :( Apr 03 04:00:06 <__phil__> ...so since this is a Verizon Pre Plus, hoping I can trick it into letting me install it under webOS 2 Apr 03 04:30:40 <__phil__> scoutcamper: java 6 seems to have worked :) Apr 03 04:30:49 good Apr 03 04:30:53 <__phil__> scoutcamper: thank you for your help Apr 03 04:31:06 __phil__, no problem Apr 03 04:31:47 __phil__ what was wrong/what were you tryin to do? Apr 03 04:32:24 <__phil__> PatrickC_Pre2: the webos 2 doctor for Verizon Palm Pre Plus does not appear to check the Java version to make sure it is 1.6 Apr 03 04:32:40 ah ok Apr 03 04:32:44 <__phil__> PatrickC_Pre2: it simply complains that the jar is invalid or corrupt Apr 03 04:33:11 so, the doctor is working? Apr 03 04:35:04 <__phil__> do I need to launch dev mode on the pre plus before connecting it? Apr 03 04:35:15 Nope Apr 03 04:35:31 just recovery mode (I always go into recovery mode first) Apr 03 04:35:42 but recovery mode isn't required Apr 03 04:35:43 <__phil__> it's currently stuck on INFO:got controller on the cygwin bash screen Apr 03 04:36:08 you are running the jar from cygwin? Apr 03 04:36:26 I just find the directory it put the new doctor in, and double click on the doctor file Apr 03 04:36:29 brb Apr 03 04:44:50 <__phil__> crap -- battery charge failure? Apr 03 04:45:41 charge the battery via a power outlet to 90% or so and then try again Apr 03 04:47:14 <__phil__> yeah just found this: http://discussion.treocentral.com/general-webos-chat/273022-webos-doctor-stuck-battery-charging.html#post2829558 Apr 03 04:47:49 its best to charge via power outlet, as it is like twice the power as USB.. Apr 03 04:48:29 tomorrow (or later today), gonna need some help making a first use bypass pixi doctor Apr 03 04:48:31 sprint pixi Apr 03 04:48:53 follow the meta-doctor wikia Apr 03 04:49:04 nd I'll get you a link on how to make it bypass firstuse Apr 03 04:49:16 <__phil__> thanks -- gonna head to bed Apr 03 04:49:22 I tried. I need someone to break it down in lehman terms. Apr 03 04:50:22 bnceo`: wait, why are you making a meta-doctor to bypass first use? Apr 03 04:50:29 palm provides a tool for that Apr 03 04:50:43 well, I first thought you need to make a meta doctor Apr 03 04:50:50 then I read back and found out I didn't Apr 03 04:51:06 so I believe I just used a regular doctor and now I'm basically stuck at first use app Apr 03 04:51:08 no meta-doctor required to use the palm-provided tool Apr 03 04:51:28 also, I think my ear speaker is shorted on the pixi. might have to ebay for another one Apr 03 04:51:50 1 second, I'll get you a useful link Apr 03 04:52:01 and then I want to have wifi on it. so I need to get a vzw pixi just for the wifi Apr 03 04:52:01 the phone is unactivated, correct? Apr 03 04:52:32 the only thing I see is the sign on profile Apr 03 04:53:16 does the phone have a phone number, or is it unactivated? Apr 03 04:53:47 it does not have activated Apr 03 04:53:51 just checked with sprint Apr 03 04:54:02 I did at one point, but i went back to the Pre Apr 03 04:54:29 ok then... just use the following page to re-gain use of it :) Apr 03 04:54:35 https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developing_on_an_unactivated_device.html Apr 03 04:55:45 ^^ is all you need to bypass firstuse Apr 03 04:55:54 thx Apr 03 04:55:56 gonna do this now Apr 03 04:56:06 it takes like 2 min :) Apr 03 04:56:12 and its soo useful Apr 03 04:56:15 ya ya Apr 03 04:56:24 btw, removing the pixi battery is a pain in the arse Apr 03 04:56:47 not really, not for me at least Apr 03 04:56:58 also, back on subject, I reflashed it because phone was on 1.4.1 or w/e and was hoping that maybe a bad OS would be messing with ear speaker Apr 03 04:57:04 I had a pixi for about 1 yr, and never had much trouble with it Apr 03 04:57:14 well, it doesn't have a tab to pull out like the Pre Apr 03 04:57:27 my ear speaker went bad, sprint replaced it Apr 03 04:57:44 they replaced my pixi 6 times in the past 5 months or something like that Apr 03 04:58:38 I bought this one craigslist for cheap Apr 03 04:58:51 prob is that I bought it in Kansas. I was there for work. came back to Maryland tonight Apr 03 04:58:58 cool Apr 03 04:59:13 I like the pixi, but the pre is sooo much better Apr 03 05:00:48 my biggest issue is the lack of wifi on the sprint version Apr 03 05:00:55 wish screen was a lil bigger. but I love it Apr 03 05:01:14 the veer is gonna be amazing! Apr 03 05:01:39 a phone the size of the Pixi's screen, wifi, 800MHz stock, 2.1... Apr 03 05:01:40 even if it's GSM, I might have to be a first day buyer for it Apr 03 05:01:56 I hope palm does a dev phone program for it Apr 03 05:02:10 I don't have the money to buy another phone right now :/ Apr 03 05:02:57 ok. doing this recovery mode is a pain with the pixi Apr 03 05:03:11 just the pressing down and battery and blah Apr 03 05:03:14 that it is Apr 03 05:03:27 the volume button is the biggest pain Apr 03 05:03:31 yup Apr 03 05:03:37 I like doing on the pre so much better Apr 03 05:03:37 like I need a vice or something Apr 03 05:03:43 lol Apr 03 05:04:12 phone at 0% battery :p Apr 03 05:04:39 ah. might have one Apr 03 05:04:48 have one what? Apr 03 05:05:35 a 0% battery Apr 03 05:05:50 I am at 0% battery lol Apr 03 05:05:53 now 1% Apr 03 05:06:21 well, let me know if it works :) Apr 03 05:08:29 all I see is a battery with a question mark Apr 03 05:08:49 put the battery back in :) Apr 03 05:09:20 I did. haha. just stayed there Apr 03 05:09:30 hmm Apr 03 05:09:39 pull the battery, and unplug from wall Apr 03 05:10:18 it's plugged via USB to PC Apr 03 05:10:37 it must be done with a wall outlet to go into recovery mode Apr 03 05:10:40 not USB Apr 03 05:10:47 bah. so instructions were wrong. Apr 03 05:10:57 it says polug usb cable into computer Apr 03 05:11:26 hmm. I'll let Chuq know Apr 03 05:12:04 thanks for letting me know ;) Apr 03 05:13:45 bug reported Apr 03 05:17:31 did it work? Apr 03 05:18:07 hold up. looking at the forums Apr 03 05:18:09 common issue Apr 03 05:18:16 wait, what needs to be plugged into the wall for recovery mode? Apr 03 05:18:27 the phone Apr 03 05:18:59 "pull battery, hold volume up, plug phone into wall, re-insert battery, done" Apr 03 05:19:15 * halfhalo does it from usb all the time Apr 03 05:19:20 usb on computer Apr 03 05:19:24 s/done/let go of volume up, then done/ Apr 03 05:19:24 PatrickC_Pre2 meant: "pull battery, hold volume up, plug phone into wall, re-insert battery, let go of volume up, then done" Apr 03 05:19:39 hmm, I've always thought it needed the wall outlet Apr 03 05:19:51 According to the Palm Support site for Pixis, the steps are indeed different Apr 03 05:19:53 1) Connect the USB cable to the AC charger, and plug the AC charger into a working outlet. Apr 03 05:19:55 2) Turn off the phone. Apr 03 05:19:57 3) Remove and reinsert the battery. Apr 03 05:19:59 4) Press and hold the volume up button and connect the USB cable to the phone. Apr 03 05:20:01 5) Release the volume up button when the screen showing the large USB icon appears. Apr 03 05:20:34 ahh, the Pixi does require the wall outlet Apr 03 05:20:50 that's why I was thinking that... that's how I did it for a year Apr 03 05:21:32 well, I'm off to bed Apr 03 05:21:45 halfhalo will walk you through anything else you need :) Apr 03 05:23:18 umm... no? You don't get to go volunteer people for stuff. Apr 03 05:23:30 haha Apr 03 05:23:36 * halfhalo is busy atm, but will try to answer questions he guesses Apr 03 05:46:24 Sup party people Apr 03 06:45:53 Qucik Q, is there some magic process to install the Messaging Mod Plugins? Apr 03 06:46:01 i just doctored my device and its still IPKG Failing Apr 03 06:46:21 which i might add is a massive pain in the balls after about an hour of waiting Apr 03 06:46:44 Have GNU patch, installed the messaging plugins sysfiles Apr 03 06:47:02 went to do the messaging plugings patch package, and that fails outright Apr 03 06:59:08 -1: Unable to run command: /usr/bin/luna-send -n 6 luna://com.palm.appinstaller/installNoVerify '{"subscribe":true, "target": "/media/internal/.developer/org.webosinternals.messagingpatch_2.6.1_armv6.ipk", "uncompressedSize": 0}' 2>&1 Apr 03 07:04:08 ugh, lame Apr 03 07:08:21 well thats that then Apr 03 07:08:26 re-dcotor and back to stock Apr 03 07:58:21 Hi all, I recently received an unlocked GSM Pre 2 and am thinking of converting it to be on the Sprint network. I was just wondering if there is anything you lose in the process, ability for OTA updates for example? Apr 03 08:15:59 all the info is on the wiki Apr 03 08:24:58 well I did see warnings about losing sprint navigation and sprint prl update in the webos 2.0 upgrade page, but was just checking to see if there is anything not mentioned Apr 03 08:25:34 precentral mentioned uncertainty about firmware updates, didn't see anything about it on the wiki Apr 03 08:31:23 which page are you looking at? Apr 03 08:32:01 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2 Apr 03 08:32:30 and step 16 goes to: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Apr 03 08:34:39 ok, I've added an OTA Updates section to that last page. Apr 03 08:34:47 thanks for pointint it ou. Apr 03 08:34:48 t Apr 03 08:35:09 you may need to shift-reload the page to see it Apr 03 08:35:30 ah awesome, thanks Apr 03 08:38:16 okay so basic gist of it is that a Sprint Pre 2 might receive an OTA update but its unclear Apr 03 08:39:25 yep Apr 03 08:42:14 cool - and are there any good alternatives for gps navigation on a sprint pre 2? Apr 03 10:22:43 heyho Apr 03 10:24:35 one question on uberkernel for the pre 2 Apr 03 10:24:47 despite of overclocking, what are the benefits? Apr 03 10:32:57 all the other things listed in the description in Preware Apr 03 10:46:59 ^^hm ya Apr 03 12:38:50 Hi, can anyone point me to any existing PDK articles working from the ground up Apr 03 13:01:57 hi there Apr 03 13:02:38 anyone familiar with the installatiuon of messaging plugins on webos 1.4.5 ? Apr 03 13:04:38 anyone there ? Apr 03 13:42:09 hi Apr 03 13:43:08 anyone there who could help me installing the messaging plugins on my pixi ? Apr 03 13:47:56 hey hondologe Apr 03 13:53:51 what's your problem? Apr 03 13:56:15 when try to install the messaging patch, it will return me an error message Apr 03 13:56:39 sorry, i was my my kid, didnt catch your message at first... Apr 03 13:57:04 i followed the directions from the forum Apr 03 13:57:13 put my pixi in dev mode Apr 03 13:57:49 installed the gnupatch for arm v6 Apr 03 13:58:18 (first i installed preware and ipkg sevices) Apr 03 13:58:27 what kind of error message? one containing lots of "hunk failed" stuff? Apr 03 13:58:53 and on what package? (sysfiles, patch, services) Apr 03 13:58:59 no, just failed to install i think, i just doctored my pixi once more and its activating again Apr 03 13:59:14 org.webosinternals.messagingsysfiles_2.0.0_*.ipk installed fine Apr 03 13:59:25 ok Apr 03 13:59:28 org.webosinternals.messagingpatch_2.0.0_*.ipk returns me an error Apr 03 13:59:39 ok Apr 03 14:00:02 one way wich stupidly worked most times for me, specially on newly doctored devices: Apr 03 14:00:36 im listening :D Apr 03 14:00:36 go to preware and install one patch (does not matter which one) and restart luna Apr 03 14:01:13 open up preware again, navigate to (i think) linux tools and install EPR (Emergancy Patch Recovery) Apr 03 14:01:27 this will restore the original files and delete all patches Apr 03 14:01:48 it's idiotic, but afterwards the messaging patch always did install fine for me Apr 03 14:02:01 ok, writing everything down, takes a lil bit for activating my fresh doctored phone :D Apr 03 14:02:07 sure^^ Apr 03 14:02:22 i try that out when its done and give you a feedback :D Apr 03 14:02:46 it drives me already crazy, not that im too dumb to follow instruction :D Apr 03 14:03:22 these plugins often don't want to install Apr 03 14:03:42 i can't tell why this method works, but it always did for me Apr 03 14:03:51 (on my pre, i do not have a pixi) Apr 03 14:04:30 on my pre i had no problem, webos2.1.0, flash and the messaging plugins work fine :D Apr 03 14:04:47 ya the new messaging plugins ork like a charm Apr 03 14:04:57 s/ork/work Apr 03 14:05:22 the old facebook spoof patch too, but now fb seemed to change something and it does not work anymore Apr 03 14:05:34 ya Apr 03 14:06:36 restoring my settings, can take a lil bit when you just have gprs :( Apr 03 14:07:33 wlan^^ Apr 03 14:08:04 restarting the first time now Apr 03 14:10:21 ich sehe gerade das du ja auch deutsch bist (dip.t-dialin.net) :D Apr 03 14:14:37 dcc doesnt work for me, using a webchat Apr 03 14:15:14 ja schon, aber deutsch ist hier ungern gesehen ;) Apr 03 14:15:31 that wasn't what i wanted to do^^ Apr 03 14:16:09 restoring now my apps, so i cant install a patch right now :( Apr 03 14:18:54 ... you could go to the apps listing and tap on "stop all downloads" (or something like that), then you can patch it as you like, and afterwards you can resume downloading your apps... Apr 03 14:19:22 ok, doing that, my are are not important for me right now :) Apr 03 14:19:42 my apps Apr 03 14:22:30 ok, one patch installed and restarting luna now (browser - bookmark list button patch) Apr 03 14:25:13 epr installed, lets see what i get after the luna restart Apr 03 14:28:10 what shall i install first, gnu-patch or ipkg services ? Apr 03 14:33:24 i tried following order: 1st ipkg services, 2nd gnupatch, 3rd messaging sysfiles Apr 03 14:33:48 then i tried the messagingpatch and got an error again :( Apr 03 14:34:52 "Abhängigkeiten der Pakete nicht erfüllt" Apr 03 14:35:56 mh when you installed the patch via preware, you don't have to install ipkg services and patch by hand Apr 03 14:36:01 it already did Apr 03 14:36:52 you cold also try to copy the plugin ipk's to your pixi via usb Apr 03 14:37:12 navigate there by internalz and open them, to install them right through preware Apr 03 14:37:25 this should install all dependencies (if there are any) Apr 03 14:37:33 dev mode is on yes? Apr 03 14:37:41 i try epr once my and start over once more Apr 03 14:37:54 devmode is enabled Apr 03 14:37:57 preware is also installed Apr 03 14:42:31 trying to install via preware gives ma also an error Apr 03 14:42:40 messagingpatch Apr 03 14:44:09 strange Apr 03 14:45:24 unable to run command: /usr/bin/luna-send -n 6 luna://com.palm.appinstaller/installNoVerify '{"subscribe":true, "target":"/media/internal/.developer/org.webosinternals.messagingpatch_2.6.1_arm6.ipk"," Apr 03 14:45:58 uncompressedSize":0}'2>&1 Apr 03 14:48:09 i think my pixi doesnt want those plugins :D Apr 03 14:49:58 checking in later again, got to take my kid in bed ... Apr 03 15:00:00 somebody here nows about anybody who tried another bluetooth stack on the palm pre? Apr 03 15:18:48 Unity doesn't work... hehehe... it will fail... it loses the app menus and there's no way to bring them back :D Apr 03 15:28:06 ~seen destinal Apr 03 15:28:11 destinal <~chatzilla@174-24-58-127.clsp.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 3d 11h 47m 36s ago, saying: 'so, sssshhh'. Apr 03 15:28:19 ~NuttyBunny Apr 03 15:29:18 anyone know thr right order to install the messaging plugins on a pixi plus ? Apr 03 15:30:01 Hello all Apr 03 15:30:39 I have a small issue, I am trying to upgrade my Palm Pre O2 device to 2.1 but when it runs WebOS doctor it doens't reconize it when connecting with the USB Apr 03 15:30:49 Same thing happens with Windows as Ubuntu Apr 03 15:30:57 novacom driver is installed Apr 03 15:31:22 did you start it with the volume up button keeping pressed ? Apr 03 15:31:49 Hmm I feel kinda stupid now, now didn't try that yet... Apr 03 15:32:09 shutting it down right now Apr 03 15:32:41 i had also once the problem with one of my pre's and that helped for me Apr 03 15:33:14 now it sais in windows Apr 03 15:33:36 OMAP 3430 is not installed Apr 03 15:37:53 hmm it seems to flash now Apr 03 15:37:57 with holding the up button Apr 03 15:38:01 many thanks hondologe! Apr 03 15:48:14 Question I have a french Pre plus Apr 03 15:48:22 with one should I use to flash this device? Apr 03 15:48:34 it is SFR France Apr 03 15:48:48 but when I do the command with sfr in it, it is not reconised Apr 03 16:18:01 check the webosinternals wiki, it will tell you what doctor to use ;) Apr 03 17:02:50 Yeah I know but it nowhere sais which version is for the French one Apr 03 17:05:26 It's a SFR France device, and I can't find it back in the wiki page about upgrading to 2.1 Apr 03 17:07:32 RXShorty: It's a Pre 2? Apr 03 17:07:58 No its a Pre Plus Apr 03 17:08:15 with a AZERTY keyboard Apr 03 17:12:09 mmm... I don't think there's a script for those :S Apr 03 17:12:48 DARN Apr 03 17:12:53 :( Apr 03 17:13:03 hold on.. Apr 03 17:13:13 ok thanks in advance NuttyBunny Apr 03 17:13:16 In the palm.com/rom page what does it say? Apr 03 17:13:41 does it say that 1.4.5 is the latest you can use? Apr 03 17:15:01 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Apr 03 17:15:09 shows there is a 2.1 availabale Apr 03 17:15:25 whats good. Apr 03 17:15:59 I think so :) Apr 03 17:56:07 <__phil__> Morning everybody. I'm attempting to flash my Verizon Pre Plus to 2.1.0. The Doctor has not moved from 4% for over an hour. The last console entry in Cygwin is update Loading Ramdisk50 Apr 03 17:56:09 <__phil__> Apr 3, 2011 9:25:50 AM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController logPrint Apr 03 17:56:10 <__phil__> INFO: Loading Ramdisk: Waiting for device to come back Apr 03 17:56:24 <__phil__> pastebin of many of the last lines of the log: http://pastebin.com/BMnE5JgY Apr 03 17:56:34 <__phil__> the Pre Plus is stuck at the Palm logo Apr 03 17:57:41 <__phil__> scoutcamper: would you have a moment? Apr 03 17:59:03 4% Apr 03 17:59:07 restart the process :) Apr 03 17:59:13 it haven't even started Apr 03 18:00:45 <__phil__> nuttybunny do you mean (1) unplug pre plus and put it back in recovery mode (2) stop and restart the jar? Apr 03 18:01:21 <__phil__> er NuttyBunny: do you mean (1) unplug pre plus and put it back in recovery mode (2) stop and restart the jar? Apr 03 18:03:30 sorry to ask again, anyone knows howto install the messaging plugins for webos1.4.5 ? i alwas get an error message while installing the org.webosinternals.messagingpatch_2.6.1_arm6.ipk file Apr 03 18:04:40 __phil__: Yep, unplug, go to recovery mode, run doctor, replug Apr 03 18:04:47 are you doing it in a virtual machine? Apr 03 18:04:56 evening Apr 03 18:04:58 hondologe: What error does it give? Apr 03 18:05:00 hey hape Apr 03 18:05:08 <__phil__> Nuttybunny_: cygwin Apr 03 18:07:01 its give me a german error message, i translate, just a second Apr 03 18:08:08 it says something like Dependencies of the packages do not meet Apr 03 18:08:45 Ok, hondologe: What are you using to install the ipk? (please don't say preware) Apr 03 18:08:56 wosqi Apr 03 18:09:05 like the tutorial says :D Apr 03 18:09:09 __phil__: It should run, just try it again Apr 03 18:09:31 i just doctored my phone once more Apr 03 18:09:47 hondologe: ok, try installing the sysfiles and the patch at the same time (put both in wosqi and press install) Apr 03 18:10:17 Also, I'm not quite sure that it works in all languages... you may try setting your Pre in english and trying again Apr 03 18:10:49 Version 3.x of the plugins (for webOS 2.x) is more Pre and Language friendly, you should consider moving to webOS 2.1 :) Apr 03 18:11:01 in which order shall i do it ? gnupatch -> sysfiles/patch -> plugins ? Apr 03 18:11:17 i would, but my pixi wont do webos 2.1.0 :D Apr 03 18:11:35 the pixi is set to english Apr 03 18:13:09 wonder if there is a way to put 2.1 on a pre minus Apr 03 18:13:17 sure there is Apr 03 18:13:35 many here already have their pre minus on 2.1 including flash ;) Apr 03 18:13:50 yeah, I'm such a newbie in how to do it probably Apr 03 18:14:06 there is a tutorial in the forum Apr 03 18:14:16 its easy to follow step by step Apr 03 18:14:16 hondologe: Ah, sorry, pixi... :( Yes, that should be the order, maybe even sysfiles/patch/plugins, all at once Apr 03 18:14:19 even i did it :D Apr 03 18:14:32 okay, i try that one :D Apr 03 18:14:33 This should be the official guide: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Apr 03 18:15:17 but first the gnupatch or not ? Apr 03 18:15:35 how is the performance on it? Apr 03 18:15:51 better than with webos 1.4.5 imo Apr 03 18:15:59 runs smooth Apr 03 18:16:17 there is a kernel for it I assume Apr 03 18:16:22 yeah Apr 03 18:16:24 cause 500mhz and 2.1 is not worth it Apr 03 18:16:39 overclocking to 800mhz does it :) Apr 03 18:16:42 will I destroy my profile? like all the stuff I download and stuff Apr 03 18:16:52 it didnt for me Apr 03 18:17:05 but still no solution to get sprint gps to work I assume Apr 03 18:17:08 just turn OFF backup and save/restore with homebrew Apr 03 18:17:15 hondologe: first gnu patch. sorry :) Apr 03 18:17:26 sprint i dont know anything about, sorry :) Apr 03 18:17:27 <__phil__> NuttyBunny: it seems to be working :) Apr 03 18:17:40 thanks nuttybunny, i just wanted to make sure :D Apr 03 18:18:21 bnceo`: you won't lose your apps, just use preware's save/restore app to record your progress and datafiles in case something goes wrong Apr 03 18:19:02 __phil__: Cool, as I told you, at 4% it's just loading the ramdisk, nothing happens there, and if it stucks, you just restart ir Apr 03 18:19:22 it still wont install with wosqi :( Apr 03 18:19:32 dont know whats wrong with my pixi :D Apr 03 18:19:52 ok. Here is my plan for now. Imma do a fresh install to 1.4.5. Download all my apps and stuff I need. Then after all that, I will use the save/restore app and DL everything. Then I will save that file to a hard drive somewhere Apr 03 18:19:54 still same error message Apr 03 18:19:56 hondologe: Use a 3.x vresion of quick install Apr 03 18:19:59 then I will start my 2.1 doctor Apr 03 18:20:00 not 4.x Apr 03 18:20:10 ok, i try that too :D Apr 03 18:20:11 well, meta doctor Apr 03 18:20:57 i just need to find a 3.x version Apr 03 18:21:04 bnceo`: cool :) check the wiki, it's mostly complete, and if you have problems, check the forum Apr 03 18:21:45 DRing to 1.4.5 now. Apr 03 18:22:48 actually, Imma just get 1.4.5 ready to go and while it's DLing all my purchased apps, I will DR my gf's Pre. Here is having issues and needs a fresh install Apr 03 18:23:07 thanks for your help and time btw nuttybunny Apr 03 18:23:32 http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/228310-webos-quick-install-v3-14-a.html <- wosqi 3.14 Apr 03 18:23:40 My Pixi with the bad ear speaker is getting sent out on Monday to Palm Warranty. VzW Pixi Plus is coming this week. When I get Sprint Pixi back, I will do a Sprint Pixi with wifi conversion Apr 03 18:23:55 thanks! Apr 03 18:24:11 bnceo`: cool, those frankendevices are cool ;) Apr 03 18:24:30 ya ya. Imma let my gf play with the OCed Franken Pixi and see if she likes it Apr 03 18:24:50 takes a while to download it :) Apr 03 18:25:10 NuttyBunny: thx for the link to the guide Apr 03 18:25:15 what do you think, shall i doctor once more before trying it ? Apr 03 18:25:16 this will be this evening's project Apr 03 18:25:19 hondologe: I hope it works fine!!! If you have trouble with msn, drop me a line on Precentral, I'm looking into that mess, it deals with encryption and certificates and things not supported :S Apr 03 18:25:31 just try to install it again Apr 03 18:25:35 ok Apr 03 18:26:01 ! Apr 03 18:28:31 seems like wosqi3.x did the trick! Apr 03 18:28:38 no error while installing so far ! Apr 03 18:30:27 hehehe... I'll drop Greg a mail to correct that page :) Apr 03 18:30:32 and it works! Apr 03 18:30:54 it was just cause i used the newest wosqi ! Apr 03 18:31:07 3.14, no error and it works! Apr 03 18:31:34 lets see if it also loads my fb buddy list :D Apr 03 18:39:23 weird Apr 03 18:40:41 i installed a patch (broser- bookmark list button) and since i restarted i JUST with facebook online, not with google and aol anymore (it also wont sign in) and the fb buddy list wont load :( Apr 03 18:41:55 fb buddy list? Apr 03 18:41:59 in what application Apr 03 18:42:15 messaging, after installing the plugins Apr 03 18:43:02 <__phil__> NuttyButty: how long should it stay at 72%? Apr 03 18:43:16 <__phil__> er NuttyBunny: how long should it stay at 72%? Apr 03 18:43:31 hondologe: try signing out and signing back in Apr 03 18:43:44 messaging app can be buggy at times Apr 03 18:44:28 still the same :( Apr 03 18:44:49 try removing accounts Apr 03 18:44:54 are you on 2.1 or 1.4.5 Apr 03 18:45:30 pixiplus 1.4.5 Apr 03 18:45:35 ah Apr 03 18:45:40 ok, i remove them all :D Apr 03 18:45:41 good ol' pixi. Apr 03 18:45:49 try signing back in now Apr 03 18:46:18 one moment, got to set up an account Apr 03 18:46:29 ok Apr 03 18:47:03 __phil__ 72% not much... :S Apr 03 18:47:53 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover --> Around 72% the carrier apps are being installed Apr 03 18:48:12 <__phil__> pre plus hsows chip with arrow pointing downward. Cygwin console shows last: flushing and closing -----runCommand +++++runCommand /bin/mkdir flushing and closing -----runCommand +++++runCommand /bin/mount Apr 03 18:48:33 mmm... and it's been there for a while? Apr 03 18:48:52 i set up fb via jabber, lets see if that will work Apr 03 18:49:08 get the fb over google chat patch Apr 03 18:49:13 hondologe: Ah, yes, the fbchat plugin is broken :) Apr 03 18:49:33 :D Apr 03 18:49:37 get the Facebook spoof chat patch Apr 03 18:49:42 grizzler: and how do you connect to gtalk if he uses that patch? Apr 03 18:49:49 fb spoof is broke since a few days Apr 03 18:49:49 it still works Apr 03 18:49:53 <__phil__> NuttyBunny: For at least 10 to 20 mins. Recent pastebin: http://pastebin.com/LDQ3cKpy Apr 03 18:50:06 fb via jabber works :D Apr 03 18:50:25 i no longer have any webos phones :3 im speaking from the top of my head right now :P Apr 03 18:50:35 how long was the spoof chat patch broken? Apr 03 18:50:50 a few days Apr 03 18:50:53 grizzler: :P the spoof one is not broken, the facebookchat plugin is Apr 03 18:51:01 facebook's fault Apr 03 18:51:01 oh Apr 03 18:51:04 :3 Apr 03 18:51:11 ~seen rwhitby-pre Apr 03 18:51:14 rwhitby-pre is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 8h 18m 15s, last said: 'all the other things listed in the description in Preware'. Apr 03 18:51:32 __phil__: kill it, restart it, it won't go anywhere from there :S Apr 03 18:51:42 true :D Apr 03 18:51:45 i was so used to the pre/pixi, that i did the upward swipe gesture on my blackberry on multiple occasions Apr 03 18:51:52 the spoof didn't change :) Apr 03 18:52:11 Well, gotta go, see you guys later! Apr 03 18:52:20 <__phil__> thanks NuttyBunny Apr 03 18:52:33 <__phil__> Hi scoutcamper -- guess what? I'm now stuck at 72% Apr 03 18:53:03 __phil__, IIRC thats the modem flashing, how long has it been stuck? Apr 03 18:53:30 <__phil__> scoutcamper at least 10 to 20 mins. pastebin of log from cygwin: http://pastebin.com/LDQ3cKpy Apr 03 18:53:42 <__phil__> scoutcamper -- nuttybunny suggested I kill it and restart it Apr 03 18:55:03 10-20 mins is waaaaaaay to long Apr 03 18:55:33 __phil__, i concur with NuttyBunny, it can takle like 8-10 min at 72% but shouldnt be longer than that Apr 03 18:56:02 Besides, look at the pastebin, it's stuck in a mount command, not in the modem flashing :) Apr 03 18:56:13 <__phil__> I just wish there was a way to see why it' stuck Apr 03 18:57:03 I'd go into novaterm and type a "dmesg" command to see if it crashed Apr 03 18:57:31 there are several things you could check, /var/log/* may have something Apr 03 18:57:55 I don't know, I usually don't spent that much time debugging doctors, I just recheck everything and doctor again :) Apr 03 18:57:59 <__phil__> too late, restarting Apr 03 18:58:07 cool :D Apr 03 18:58:15 now I'm really leaving. c-ya! Apr 03 18:58:39 <__phil__> we are at 9% Apr 03 18:58:56 of? Apr 03 18:59:00