**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 21 02:59:58 2011 Apr 21 03:25:05 smr_: did that help? Apr 21 03:45:09 NuttyBunny, is there a wiki/other page that's tracking 2.1 on pixi progress? Apr 21 03:46:21 RagingMind: No, nothing yet, and I don't think Rod will want to host it :) Apr 21 04:11:35 hmm.. I found the AppsToAllowInLowMemory :) Apr 21 04:27:38 yeah, that helped PatrickC_Pre, thanks I'm just reading through the wiki now Apr 21 04:27:57 are you 2.1'ing the pre? Apr 21 04:31:26 yeah Apr 21 04:31:42 I love 2.1 on my pre- Apr 21 04:32:26 can you get apps on the app catalog with wifi only version? Apr 21 04:32:44 yep, as long as you log into a palm profile Apr 21 04:33:14 which the good folks over at webos-internals fixed it so you can make/login to a Palm profile over wifi Apr 21 04:33:51 * PatrickC_Pre got Agenda View working outside of Exhibition!! Apr 21 04:34:11 with landscape!! Apr 21 04:34:41 isn't that the easy part :I Apr 21 04:34:44 it's just an app Apr 21 04:35:19 getting it to launch in exhibition while on a touchstone and still do landscape is the hard part Apr 21 04:35:36 yeah.. working on that Apr 21 04:36:52 Agenda View has a preferences scene where you can choose the bg Apr 21 04:38:13 I'm sure a lot of them have similar, yeah Apr 21 04:38:25 but how to access it... Apr 21 04:51:35 * PatrickC_Pre is making his first patch :D Apr 21 04:53:49 my patch worked!! yay Apr 21 05:00:29 Are you working on getting the exhibition apps to do landscape on the touchstone? Apr 21 05:00:52 yeah Apr 21 05:00:58 but thats not the patch I made :) Apr 21 05:01:07 anyone know the appid of the skype app? Apr 21 05:43:35 good evening all... here to chat and help if needed Apr 21 06:11:50 is connecting your phone by USB with Ubuntu in Virtualbox on Windows 7 not supported? It won't recognized my phone connection in the HP Webos Doctor. Apr 21 06:12:10 Novacom 32-bit is installed for linux Apr 21 06:12:13 copy the meta-doctored jar file that you built to Windows 7 Apr 21 06:12:15 and run it there Apr 21 06:12:23 Linux is only required to -build- the metadoctor Apr 21 06:12:32 ok Apr 21 06:12:42 running is supported under Windows and saves you the hassle of dealing with USB pass through to virtual box Apr 21 06:12:45 I had t obuild in win7 and execute in ubuntu Apr 21 06:13:00 egads: building in windows isn't supported any more Apr 21 06:13:10 I built in cygwin actually Apr 21 06:13:35 and that's what's not supported now :p Apr 21 06:13:52 two weeks ... oh well Apr 21 06:14:05 time flys Apr 21 06:21:45 later - will try to log on more oftem Apr 21 06:21:53 m>n Apr 21 08:21:05 Working on something. Need appid for free #webOS apps that are only in a) Sprint b) VZW c) ATT d) O2 e) SFR f) US g) UK h) DE app catalogs. Apr 21 10:28:39 every now and again, when I rsync files to my media/internal wallpapers, the photo app loses track of things queerly. I'm looking for a way to rescan/rebuild the mediadb Apr 21 10:28:53 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/rescan is apparently just for the luancher Apr 21 11:50:29 Anyone suffering from geo-restricted apps, and wants to test something which may fix it? Apr 21 13:45:50 rwhitby: Mobile Hotspot? Apr 21 15:03:19 PuffTheMagic: you wanna work on the wIRC issue? Apr 21 15:25:45 anyone in here done the android dualboot yet? Apr 21 16:02:58 * phil_bw wanders by on the opposite side of the room so Patrick doesn't pull anything Apr 21 16:12:25 * phil_bw wanders off Apr 21 16:43:36 I'm trying to doctor my pre2, but the doctor has been at 9% for the past 15-20min Apr 21 16:47:35 what happens when I disconnect my phone in the middle of a doctor? Apr 21 16:52:24 you get to run doctor again Apr 21 16:53:05 does it hurt the phone? Apr 21 16:53:25 the doctor has been on 9% for about 15-20 min Apr 21 16:54:11 what step in the log is it stuck on? Apr 21 16:54:52 how do I check the log (I haven't had to do so yet, so I don't know yet) Apr 21 16:55:37 you run it from the command line Apr 21 16:56:09 java -jar yourdoctorname.jar Apr 21 16:56:10 with the "java -jar" command? Apr 21 16:56:14 ok Apr 21 16:56:52 it shouldnt hurt the phone, doctor just overwrites everything every time by default Apr 21 16:57:24 ok, doctor closed.. gonna run from command line now Apr 21 16:57:52 i think at 9% its just about to start the memory flash or it has just started Apr 21 16:57:58 I still have the pic of a CPU on my phone screen Apr 21 16:58:16 try running it as is Apr 21 16:58:37 otherwise you will need to restart to recovery mode Apr 21 16:59:01 ok, it'll be about 5 min before I can run the doctor again Apr 21 16:59:11 why Apr 21 17:00:06 I was running the doctor from a USB drive (its a meta-doctor on a PC I didn't make the doctor on) Apr 21 17:00:26 and I can't cd into the usb drive from the command line Apr 21 17:01:19 PatrickC_Pre, u got impostah? Apr 21 17:01:28 on the phone yeah Apr 21 17:01:33 err lumberjack i mean Apr 21 17:01:57 but the phone has the CPU screen on it Apr 21 17:02:05 yeah I got that too Apr 21 17:02:29 what does lumberjack show for the wirc appid? Apr 21 17:02:53 on the phone with the faulty wirc? Apr 21 17:03:09 that's the one with the CPU screen Apr 21 17:03:47 cpu screen? Apr 21 17:04:07 I tried to doctor it, and it got to 9% and locked up Apr 21 17:04:10 firmware load screen Apr 21 17:04:16 ^^ yep Apr 21 17:05:31 pufthemagic: I don't think its actually overwritten any files yet, I can still try and look Apr 21 17:07:36 go ahead and try, i dont think it overwrites anything until after 10% Apr 21 17:07:51 I'll try to boot it Apr 21 17:08:16 For Preware on the Pre 2, we should use the Pre version, not Pixi version, right? Apr 21 17:08:48 I don't think there's a different version Apr 21 17:09:01 I installed the same version on all my pre/pixi phones Apr 21 17:09:16 the web site says that there are two feeds Apr 21 17:09:52 th3void, puffthemagic: I'm at the glowing HP screen so I guess its booting Apr 21 17:10:08 jefferai: I would say the pre version then Apr 21 17:10:41 umm... th3void: it removed all apps, except the stock apps.. Apr 21 17:11:03 and I'm still logged into my palm profile.. Apr 21 17:12:33 * PatrickC_Pre scratches head Apr 21 17:14:41 weird Apr 21 17:15:08 and my USB drive hasnt been touched... Apr 21 17:15:16 nor the settings on the phone Apr 21 17:15:34 all my patches are still there too, as well as wifi profiles Apr 21 17:15:47 and email profiles Apr 21 17:15:47 but the apps are all gone? Apr 21 17:16:13 all, except stock and my one bookmark that I put on the launcher Apr 21 17:16:30 can you tell if they are still in app storage? Apr 21 17:16:36 and Agenda View that I made visible Apr 21 17:16:37 I'll check Apr 21 17:17:17 /media/cryptofs correct? Apr 21 17:17:23 no idea Apr 21 17:17:32 never looked myself Apr 21 17:17:56 PuffTheMagic: ? Apr 21 17:18:08 only the com.palm.app.findapps (app catalog) is there Apr 21 17:20:16 this is why you should always run doctor from the command line Apr 21 17:21:21 I never knew that.. lol Apr 21 17:21:35 so, should I precede with the doctor? Apr 21 17:22:06 i guess, since you dont have wirc anymore Apr 21 17:22:19 sorry puffthemagic.. Apr 21 17:25:25 * PatrickC_Pre is watching the doctor run from cmd line for the first time :) Apr 21 17:26:35 it looks like at 8% it does app deletion Apr 21 17:29:38 I'm gonna go eat lunch, then come back and check on the doctor Apr 21 17:29:40 bbl Apr 21 17:30:38 must have passed 9% Apr 21 17:30:46 lunchtime here also Apr 21 17:33:54 it failed.. I'm at the faild screen Apr 21 18:06:22 3/22 Apr 21 18:21:46 I officially have the palm.com/rom screen :/ Apr 21 18:23:05 where'd you get your doctor? Apr 21 18:23:25 meta-doctor Apr 21 18:23:37 * Loudergood got that screen when he kept on insisting that he could doctor without going into full recoverymode Apr 21 18:23:42 but now I'm doing an official doctor, to fix anything.. Apr 21 18:23:55 I always go into recovery mode Apr 21 18:24:28 after this doctor finishes (hopefully) I'll meta-doctor again Apr 21 18:25:01 we are at the previous fail point Apr 21 18:25:06 * PatrickC_Pre crosses fingers Apr 21 18:27:02 we are doctoring!! yay, passed the previous fail point Apr 21 18:28:49 what was the fail point? Apr 21 18:29:32 there was so much log, I just assumed it was at 9% again.. but it went to the "unable to reset your device" screen Apr 21 18:29:40 I can paste the log in a few if needed Apr 21 18:30:04 s/needed/needed and or wanted/ Apr 21 18:30:04 PatrickC_Pre meant: I can paste the log in a few if needed and or wanted Apr 21 18:35:16 doctor done. phone is booting Apr 21 18:42:09 hmm.. it could be that I built the doctor with cygwin... Apr 21 18:51:34 meta-doctor seems to be working now.. will let uall know if it works Apr 21 19:20:40 th3vo1d: you here? Apr 21 19:31:48 ok...and there goes a phone reboot just as I'm watching it sit there... Apr 21 19:51:19 hi :) Apr 21 19:52:16 am i right here, if i want to ask for the linphone alpha testing link? Apr 21 20:04:54 * NuttyBunny walks in showing off his brand (not new) Pixi!! :D Apr 21 20:13:55 yeah!!! Apr 21 20:14:34 nuttybunny: I doctored :'( Apr 21 20:15:11 oh, too bad :( that's a really, really nasty bug Apr 21 20:15:11 lol Apr 21 20:15:36 yeah it is Apr 21 20:15:45 it took 5 tries to get the doctor to work Apr 21 20:15:58 4* Apr 21 20:16:20 crap... that sucks! Apr 21 20:16:25 2 failed meta-doctors, then 1 successful original doctor, then 1 working meta-doctor Apr 21 20:16:32 yeah it does.. Apr 21 20:16:40 and it didn't erase the USB partition!! lol Apr 21 20:16:48 ah, that's great! Apr 21 20:17:02 but my bug might be USB related :/ Apr 21 20:17:06 haven't tried yet Apr 21 20:17:11 hold on, gotta hibernate, boot into windows, unlock the Pixi, and return Apr 21 20:17:13 really? Apr 21 20:17:27 it happened to me too, so it's not an isolated case Apr 21 20:17:33 well, there is a wIRC folder stored on the USB partition Apr 21 20:18:43 yep, even erasing it the bug comes Apr 21 20:18:56 erasing what? Apr 21 20:19:05 the folder Apr 21 20:19:14 I hope my bug's gone Apr 21 20:19:38 should be Apr 21 20:19:40 whats this bug Apr 21 20:19:46 or I'm erasing the entire media/internal/ folder :/ Apr 21 20:19:59 wIRC keeps "waiting for plugin" forever when opened Apr 21 20:20:01 wIRC not loading the plugin Apr 21 20:20:16 never got taht, 2.1 specific? Apr 21 20:21:06 could be, I was in 2.1 at the time Apr 21 20:21:10 mine was 2.1 Apr 21 20:22:59 hay nicknick Apr 21 20:23:55 saved package list restoring Apr 21 20:25:47 brb Apr 21 20:31:35 hey PatrickC_Away Apr 21 20:32:48 back Apr 21 20:34:00 how's it goin nicknick? Apr 21 20:34:11 pretty good. trying to stay awake in this meeting... Apr 21 20:34:23 how're you? Apr 21 20:34:56 'bout to throw my pre2 into a wall, but other then that.. good :p Apr 21 20:35:16 starting a new sport? Pre2 discus? Apr 21 20:35:24 lol Apr 21 20:35:47 anything i can help with? Apr 21 20:36:38 na, it just took 4 doctor attempts to fix (and I'm not sure if its fixed yet) Apr 21 20:36:48 sheesh. what'd you do? Apr 21 20:36:56 wIRC.... Apr 21 20:38:11 it had a bug that could not be fixed (afaik) Apr 21 20:38:18 no good Apr 21 20:38:39 and I'm not sure if its fixed yet (still restoring the phone) Apr 21 20:39:14 me and puffthemagic worked on it last night, and couldn't figure it out... Apr 21 20:42:42 ok, guess i have to pay attention in this meeting... :) Apr 21 21:18:25 PatrickC_Away, idk u can even call it a wirc bug when your phone is so screwed up Apr 21 21:18:31 even after a doctor, I'm still having wifi issues :'( Apr 21 21:18:55 well, the only thing not working correctly was wIRC (and sometimes wifi would act up) Apr 21 21:18:58 perhaps you're having router issues Apr 21 21:19:08 PatrickC_Away: your bug is using cygwin to create the meta-doctor. Apr 21 21:19:37 rwhitby: but I used cygwin to make a meta-doctor that didn't break wirc Apr 21 21:20:00 loudergood: the wifi radio sometimes won't turn on.. it takes a full boot cycle to fix usually Apr 21 21:20:24 PatrickC_Pre: yep, that just shows how unreliable cygwin is for building meta-doctors Apr 21 21:20:41 I'm not gonna use it again though.. Apr 21 21:21:02 "I used this thing which works some of the time - why are you saying that's bad" Apr 21 21:21:21 that's basically what you're saying, right? Apr 21 21:21:58 not really, its not reliable, as I've seen personally, so I'm not gonna use it again. even if it was still supported Apr 21 21:25:31 well, wIRC works now Apr 21 21:36:53 some1 here with exchange active sync experience ? I'm having serious performance issues with the email part Apr 21 21:52:57 can I get a little advice regarding listeners? i can't seem to understand what I am doing wrong but it is not cleaned. Apr 21 21:53:20 rcube, /topic ? Apr 21 21:54:35 sorry i don't understand /topic but the topic is just I have a listener, i have code to clean the listener in 2.x, the emulator says that I didn't specify a target but I think I did. Is /topic a command? Apr 21 21:55:27 rwhitby said that you should read the channel's topic Apr 21 21:55:36 oh Apr 21 21:55:41 specifically the part that says: (not webOS SDK usage - #webos for that) :) Apr 21 21:55:44 * rwhitby said nothing Apr 21 21:55:54 ah, sorry Apr 21 21:56:04 SimpsonTP said Apr 21 21:56:11 ahhh yah. that channel is dead atm. ok i understand. BTW thanks for your work on the Pixi Apr 21 21:56:18 mixed wires, too many things in my mind right now Apr 21 21:56:35 np :) Apr 21 21:57:22 but you won't deny that "rcube, /topic ?" was a typical rwhitby answer :D Apr 21 21:57:47 I think its a very common IRC answer Apr 21 21:57:58 we use it on #swig like 10x a day ;) Apr 21 22:22:37 Pixi unlocked :D Apr 21 22:22:57 rwhitby: Is there a way to know if it has been activated, and where it was in 1.4.5? Apr 21 22:23:28 hmm Apr 21 22:24:06 is it a pixi or pixi plus? Apr 21 22:24:14 Plus Apr 21 22:24:29 perhaps it was activated with AT&T, it came with an AT&T SIM Apr 21 22:24:42 that'd be a safe assumption Apr 21 22:25:05 you could look for evidence of a first use patch Apr 21 22:25:44 It's used, and I think it was full-erased before shipped Apr 21 22:27:42 I know on my CDMA devices, I can do ##786# and it will tell me the activation date Apr 21 22:37:27 NuttyBunny: is this the 2.1 experiment? Apr 21 22:46:38 * PatrickC_Pre2 is waiting for his patch to be approved Apr 21 22:47:21 patch for what? Apr 21 22:47:26 bnceo: yup, got it today, still trying to unlock it Apr 21 22:47:31 (mine) Apr 21 22:47:55 ok Apr 21 22:47:56 coolies Apr 21 22:48:08 keith: it hides the SIM Toolkit app from the launcher Apr 21 22:48:26 ahh Apr 21 22:48:47 I hate seeing that app in the launcher Apr 21 22:49:09 move it to the last page :P Apr 21 22:49:24 edit the .json with vi Apr 21 22:49:25 :D Apr 21 22:49:33 appinfo.json Apr 21 22:51:32 NuttyBunny: I made "visible":"false" Apr 21 22:51:50 yep, exactly :D Apr 21 23:15:01 back to windows, it was supposed to be unlocked, but no :@ Apr 21 23:38:47 nuttybunny: ping Apr 22 00:05:40 is there a way to login to my profile on a palm pre after upgrading it to webos 2 with the --wifi-only flag? Apr 22 00:17:05 Hey, for some reason my Pre+ on 2.1 won't load past a certain point in Luna. Early enough that I can't connect to it with Novaterm. Is there anything I can do besides doctor? Apr 22 00:20:05 TheRoomW: Gesture Tutorial should work Apr 22 00:20:25 JetUni: Memboot? Apr 22 00:20:50 How do I do a Memboot? Apr 22 00:21:02 PatrickC_Pre2: thanks I will give it a try Apr 22 00:21:24 TheRoomW: make sure airplane mode is off too :) Apr 22 00:21:59 PatrickC_Pre2: yeah I kind of thought I would have to, I had it on for a bit and it caused all kinds of problems lol Apr 22 00:22:22 JetUni: http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Memboot?wasRedirected=true Apr 22 00:23:31 K thx, I'll go over that and see if I have any questions Apr 22 00:33:55 JetUni: ping Apr 22 00:34:22 PatrickC_Pre2: First ask how they installed on their Pre's :P Apr 22 00:39:19 Ping? Apr 22 00:39:59 yep Apr 22 00:40:14 something says ping and you answer Apr 22 00:40:40 pong or whatever you like, it's to call you :) Apr 22 00:41:01 What did you use to install 2.1 on your ... Pre +? Apr 22 00:43:50 good evening Apr 22 00:44:17 good evening :) Apr 22 00:45:48 I used the scripts from webos-internals Apr 22 00:46:49 JetUni: And you used the scripts on what operating system? Apr 22 00:47:05 Windows 7x64 Apr 22 00:47:34 ok, and have you recently read the wiki or the upgrade thread? Apr 22 00:48:11 I've glanced at it and noticed some changes Apr 22 00:48:40 some subtle but VERY important changes I might say my friend Apr 22 00:49:14 In a nutshell: Don't use windows to create your doctor, you'll have a hard time figuring what's wrong Apr 22 00:49:39 Yes I have noticed such things as the Cygwin and stuff Apr 22 00:49:59 yep, using windows with cygwin will render your doctor unreliable Apr 22 00:50:05 All I have is Windows... Apr 22 00:50:23 I tried a VM of Ubuntu but that totally failed... Apr 22 00:50:35 JetUni: it's pretty easy to make a bootable linux CD/DVD Apr 22 00:50:44 most of the distros will do that Apr 22 00:51:06 I'll brb in about 30 min or so...sorry Apr 22 00:51:18 ok, if you return we may be able to help Apr 22 00:52:29 NuttyBunny: i used a mac to get 2.1. Am i right that you can just boot off of a CD to make the custom doc? Apr 22 00:53:15 PatrickC_Pre2: the gesture tutorial worked to load the profile Apr 22 00:53:43 NickNick: If you used a mac you're fine. But you must install linux somewhere to make the doc, you just won't get enough space using a live cd Apr 22 00:54:48 TheRomW: cool Apr 22 00:55:01 gotcha. knew i was fine, but wasn't sure if a live cd could use 5ish GB disc space needed for the process. Apr 22 00:56:24 NickNick: It can, if you have the knowledge to create a file to mount a loopback filesystem, a thing that most people don't have the slightest idea of what it is :D Apr 22 00:56:53 heh. that goes for me too :) Apr 22 00:58:50 hehehe... that's the reason the Wiki asks politely to install ubuntu, wubi is a nice option. Mac users, since the OS is unix based, have no problems Apr 22 01:01:31 OSX is unix basted? Apr 22 01:01:36 based* Apr 22 01:02:15 BSD in fact Apr 22 01:03:59 deliciously basted in unix :) Apr 22 01:25:42 Evening everyone Apr 22 01:25:48 evening Apr 22 01:25:48 hey Apr 22 01:26:06 I've got a quick question for you gys. Apr 22 01:26:12 ok Apr 22 01:27:04 I got my unlock Pre 2 in as well as had Lasik surgery today. I don't feel up to trying the mechanical aspect of switching com boards (I currently have a Pre-). If I doctor this thing wifi only I would be able to redoctor tomorrow after I switched com boards? Apr 22 01:27:31 I have no clue.. Apr 22 01:27:37 Fair enough. Apr 22 01:27:57 I would expect so, but idk Apr 22 01:28:20 * PatrickC_Pre2 wants to get Lasik, but doesn't want them to cut his eye open.. :p Apr 22 01:28:25 I felt the same way but I don't want to screw it up. Thanks for the quick response nonetheless i'll see if i can dig around. Apr 22 01:28:32 lol PatrickC_Pre2 they do it all with lazers now Apr 22 01:28:50 really? Apr 22 01:28:50 LASERS Apr 22 01:28:55 * PatrickC_Pre2 might get it now.. Apr 22 01:29:07 have to be 20ish for lasik Apr 22 01:29:15 :'( Apr 22 01:29:15 go check it out. My recovery time is like 24 hours. Apr 22 01:29:21 Nah I am 28 Apr 22 01:29:24 I'm 15.. Apr 22 01:29:27 lol Apr 22 01:29:34 :) Apr 22 01:29:41 at least 20ish I mean Apr 22 01:29:49 ah that i am not sure about. Apr 22 01:32:11 hehe.. my pre2 is off in time by 55 days, 3 hrs, and 3 min :p Apr 22 01:35:22 M4X: i think if you skip first activation you will be OK. I know once it's activated that locks in some things with HP. Apr 22 01:36:00 I remember something about the app catalog where if this was activated in australia for instance I would only see their app catalog. Apr 22 01:36:36 right, so i think you need to skip activation for the time being. Apr 22 01:36:59 Also, i believe that if the device isn't activated you can fake out your location in order to get app cat full access Apr 22 01:37:04 there's a precentral thread on it Apr 22 01:37:26 Ok, I'm back. So I tried the Memboot option...It's still booting up so I'll give it another minute Apr 22 01:37:32 Thanks NickNick I'll see if I can find it. Apr 22 01:38:13 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/276361-sprint-pre-2-full-app-catalog-access-finally-we-have-success.html Apr 22 01:38:30 haven't read it myself, as i'm on VZW, but thats likely the state of the art Apr 22 01:39:04 JetUni: memboot? Apr 22 01:39:17 are you booting from a cd? Apr 22 01:40:09 I was trying to get my phone to boot without doctoring and someone suggested Memboot, but its been at it for at least 4 minutes, so far nothing Apr 22 01:40:23 It just won't boot past Luna Apr 22 01:40:28 ah Apr 22 01:41:05 give it some time. Mine takes like 5+ min to boot non memboot. Apr 22 01:41:06 JetUni: that was me that suggested it Apr 22 01:41:27 but I suggested it without knowing that it was a cygwin made meta-doctor Apr 22 01:41:35 PatrickC_Pre2 i thought it was u...just didn't want to look back Apr 22 01:41:42 lol Apr 22 01:41:50 oh haha alright Apr 22 01:41:56 JetUni: just install ubuntu Apr 22 01:42:05 or WUBI Apr 22 01:42:23 JetUni: ubuntu or any linux distro in a VBox should work Apr 22 01:43:01 Basically just tell me the easiest way to copy /media/internal to my computer plz? Thx! Apr 22 01:43:43 I don't believe you can without novacom access (or putting it into USB mode) Apr 22 01:43:59 that would have been the thing to do before doctoring... :( Apr 22 01:44:11 Maybe from memboot, i don't know... Apr 22 01:45:39 You may do it like the meta doctor creates the backups Apr 22 01:46:14 My phone has worked fine with the Cygwin doctor for months now, I just was playing around in Internalz Pro and I guess I messed something up pretty bad Apr 22 01:46:43 basically: extract the installer kernel from the webos doctor, mount your partitions, and send them compressed via novacom Apr 22 01:47:27 ah, I forgot bootmem from the installer image :) Apr 22 01:48:06 dare to try? you don't have nothing to lose Apr 22 01:48:17 In English plz! Haha ;) I guess I could Apr 22 01:48:39 The WUBI installer isn't working.... :( Apr 22 01:48:46 :D Ok, so, you played with internalz and deleted files that you shouldn't Apr 22 01:49:13 doctor usually fixes that :) Apr 22 01:49:19 you downloaded the ubuntu image, burned it to a cd, inserted it while running windows, and opened wubi? Apr 22 01:49:33 or you downloaded the "windows installer" from the ubuntu page? Apr 22 01:49:36 didn't delete any...just changed a few appinfo.json Apr 22 01:49:37 NuttyBunny: i bow down before your superior knowledge Apr 22 01:50:02 NickNick: I owe everything to my mentor, rwhitby ;) Apr 22 01:50:08 I downloaded windows installer Apr 22 01:50:13 no, no Apr 22 01:50:25 go to the wiki page, I added a note to avoid that one :P Apr 22 01:50:26 JetUni: usually changing some appinfo.json 's doesn't break things.. Apr 22 01:50:34 which appinfo.json? Apr 22 01:50:42 Stock apps Apr 22 01:50:55 Phone, Web, Messaging, Email Apr 22 01:51:08 but... you really can't access via novaterm?? Apr 22 01:51:08 yeah, that would prolly do it Apr 22 01:51:11 what did you change in them? Apr 22 01:51:13 nope Apr 22 01:51:30 nevermind... well get your files Apr 22 01:51:30 visible=false Apr 22 01:51:36 LOL Apr 22 01:51:38 K sweet Apr 22 01:52:00 JetUni: that shouldn't brick it.. Apr 22 01:52:12 I know...wierd right! Apr 22 01:52:21 you need: novacom, ... and nothing else I think Apr 22 01:52:26 the wubi installer finally woke up! Apr 22 01:52:28 I change those all the time.. Apr 22 01:52:53 if anyone else want to join the fun pay attention, we're going to recover a /media/internal partition from a dead device ;) Apr 22 01:53:27 Do I want the WUBI then? Apr 22 01:53:43 To create a new doctor, yes Apr 22 01:53:49 NuttyBunny: cool! Apr 22 01:53:54 leave it downloading/installing :) Apr 22 01:54:07 oh jeez! Apr 22 01:54:24 remaining time approx. 1 hr.... Apr 22 01:54:54 Everybody: You may even want to try this on your devices, we won't write nothing to them, but we'll have to boot in recovery mode Apr 22 01:55:17 hm? Apr 22 01:55:21 we need to uncompress the webos doctor, any recent doctor will do, even a borked meta doctor Apr 22 01:55:21 I'll write down the instructions Apr 22 01:55:39 NuttyBunny: is there a wiki page for this? Apr 22 01:55:51 not exactly Apr 22 01:56:16 but I might as well write one... "Recover your data from a non-booting device" :D Apr 22 01:56:18 sounds nice :) Apr 22 01:56:20 I still have the old Cygwin doctor Apr 22 01:56:41 Or a 2.1 WR Apr 22 01:56:49 or 2.0.1 Verizon Pre2 Apr 22 01:56:53 That will work, any will work Apr 22 01:57:00 uncompress it somewhere on your drive Apr 22 01:57:09 got it Apr 22 01:57:24 NuttyBunny: it does sound nice :) Apr 22 01:57:39 .jar files are simply zip files with another extension, so, you could change it's extension and open it, or open it with winrar Apr 22 01:58:09 I use 7zip Apr 22 01:58:21 NuttyBunny: Do you know if I can run the wifi only doctor to only then later doctor it to sprint (for an unlocked Pre 2) Apr 22 01:58:50 M4X: I don't see why not Apr 22 01:59:13 should I put it in recovery mode? Apr 22 01:59:16