**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 22 02:59:57 2011 Apr 22 03:00:02 novacom -w run file://bin/ls -- /tmp/media Apr 22 03:00:28 step 6? (5 was the last step that I have) Apr 22 03:00:36 yep, step 6 Apr 22 03:00:41 ok Apr 22 03:01:10 your pastebin didn't work Apr 22 03:01:11 http://pastebin.com/yD60PWRa Apr 22 03:01:14 trying agin Apr 22 03:01:17 again Apr 22 03:01:57 well, you should not copy "first", "second", and so on ;) Apr 22 03:02:05 hehe Apr 22 03:02:20 * NuttyBunny charges the spare batt on the pixi Apr 22 03:02:20 yes...i understand...haha Apr 22 03:03:23 brb Apr 22 03:03:58 so, did it work? do you see your files? Apr 22 03:04:35 argh...one sec Apr 22 03:05:00 yup Apr 22 03:06:54 yay!! i see a bunch of files! some of which I recognize as being on /media/internal Apr 22 03:07:00 !!! Apr 22 03:07:13 excellent!!! Apr 22 03:07:21 VERY!!! Apr 22 03:07:30 Now, the tricky part that I hope works in windows Apr 22 03:07:47 haha oh shoot! cross your fingers Apr 22 03:07:51 The comand in linux (or cygwin) is as follows, don't type, it's just for reference: Apr 22 03:08:14 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media/ --totals -cf - . |gzip -c > media.tgz Apr 22 03:08:33 ok, try this: Apr 22 03:09:27 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . | cat media.tar Apr 22 03:09:48 this is in cmd right? Apr 22 03:09:55 yep Apr 22 03:10:33 cat is not recognized as an internal or external command Apr 22 03:10:55 damn, which was the command?? hehehe Apr 22 03:11:14 ah.. Apr 22 03:11:29 I don't think it will work, try this: Apr 22 03:11:34 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . | cat media.tar Apr 22 03:11:45 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . | copy con > media.tar Apr 22 03:11:55 no, Apr 22 03:11:57 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . | copy con media.tar Apr 22 03:12:29 * NuttyBunny crosses fingers, hoping that Microsoft did redirections as intended... Apr 22 03:12:34 processing.... Apr 22 03:13:04 open a windows explorer window Apr 22 03:13:16 look for the c:\media.tar file Apr 22 03:13:22 see if it grows Apr 22 03:13:28 see if you hard disk is working Apr 22 03:14:54 dont see any file by that name... Apr 22 03:15:30 the WUBI install failed... Apr 22 03:16:01 this makes me want to switch to Linux Apr 22 03:16:04 stupid wubi, that's the reason I don't like the famous windows installer, please download the "ubuntu desktop installer" Apr 22 03:16:20 is the hard disk working at least? Apr 22 03:16:44 how can i tell? Apr 22 03:16:55 doesn't look or sound like it... Apr 22 03:17:07 mmm... Apr 22 03:17:21 argh Apr 22 03:17:27 we were so close Apr 22 03:17:30 stupid windows Apr 22 03:17:37 i hit enter on the cmd and the file showed up! Apr 22 03:17:52 yep......... Apr 22 03:17:54 ah, I know Apr 22 03:17:55 but it may be a fraction of the whole thing... Apr 22 03:17:57 hit ctrl-C Apr 22 03:18:06 no, it's just the enter you typed :D Apr 22 03:18:14 dang... Apr 22 03:18:32 I know how , I think Apr 22 03:18:48 Ctrl-C told me it copied 0 files Apr 22 03:18:59 novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . > media.tar Apr 22 03:19:02 all this for a boot problem? Apr 22 03:19:29 good lord Apr 22 03:19:48 no, we're not messing with the boot problem, this is to recover his files when he can't access anything on his phone Apr 22 03:20:42 we'll put this on a wiki so we won't clobber the IRC as today :) Apr 22 03:21:16 lol i was just curious Apr 22 03:21:21 hehehe Apr 22 03:21:34 me too, that's the reason I tried to do it :D Apr 22 03:21:37 if it was just boot problem i would've doctored... Apr 22 03:21:50 Did the last command work? Apr 22 03:22:05 please put on wiki Apr 22 03:22:11 I need reading material tomorrow at work Apr 22 03:22:16 LOL Apr 22 03:22:55 media.tar showed up this time Apr 22 03:23:19 0 KB tho Apr 22 03:23:40 nevermind....F5 its growing! Apr 22 03:23:54 yay! Apr 22 03:23:59 as we mexicans would say: "A Huevo!!!" Apr 22 03:24:43 let it finish, and then open the .tar file with winrar or 7zip, and uncompress some files to see if it really worked Apr 22 03:25:20 nuttybunny: more commands to document? Apr 22 03:25:50 yep Patrick, for Linux/Mac: novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media/ --totals -cf - . |gzip -c > media.tgz Apr 22 03:26:05 ok, then I make a doctor using Ubuntu right? Apr 22 03:26:07 for windows this one seems to work: novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media --totals -cf - . > media.tar Apr 22 03:26:13 exactly Apr 22 03:26:35 shweet! haha Apr 22 03:27:51 http://pastebin.com/Jxft3UNh Apr 22 03:28:15 and then morph the last 2 pastebins together, and you have yourself a wiki page (mostly) :) Apr 22 03:29:13 NuttyBunny: let me know if that's all the pasts Apr 22 03:29:16 pastes* Apr 22 03:29:43 yep, those are the ones :) Apr 22 03:30:00 ok cool! Apr 22 03:30:11 I'll be looking for the page in 10 min :D Apr 22 03:31:09 mmm... grrr.. hehehe Apr 22 03:31:48 * PatrickC_Pre2 grins Apr 22 03:37:19 night all Apr 22 03:37:36 nite Apr 22 03:37:39 well I'm up to 3GB now...only about 11 more to go... Apr 22 03:37:51 thanks everyone!!!! Apr 22 03:37:52 so much!!!! Apr 22 03:38:04 it was all NuttyBunny :) Apr 22 03:38:24 hehehe Apr 22 03:38:30 and because of this, many can backup their usb drive when their phone won't boot Apr 22 03:38:40 * PatrickC_Pre2 has needed to do that before... Apr 22 03:38:47 Thank You so much +NuttyBunny!!! Apr 22 03:38:54 yep! Even with no keyboard working or screen :) Apr 22 03:39:33 JetUni: hope you like Ubuntu :) I know I do (now if I can just do a dualboot...) Apr 22 03:39:51 night all Apr 22 03:40:04 Thanks!! night Apr 22 03:40:16 NuttyBunny: don't even need any working buttons at all on the device, if you boot with pusb or similar omap loader Apr 22 03:40:42 can you boot into recovery mode without the volume up button? Apr 22 03:40:50 PatrickC_Sleepin: yup, with pusb Apr 22 03:40:56 cool Apr 22 03:40:57 can you boot without volume up??? Ah, with the "last resort recovery" method :D Apr 22 03:41:03 yeah Apr 22 03:41:08 hehe Apr 22 03:41:19 NuttyBunny: wonder why you didn't just say "make backup" in meta-doctor ? Apr 22 03:41:27 instead of all those manual commands Apr 22 03:41:38 cygwin Apr 22 03:42:31 I'm trying to simplify it so people can just go and see the wiki for "recovering your files" Apr 22 03:43:14 for people like me... :) Apr 22 03:43:18 instead of "install ubuntu, install cygwin, download this, download that", people get lost, and sometimes they just want their files and redoctor Apr 22 03:43:24 like JetUni here Apr 22 03:44:21 * rwhitby mumbles about teaching how to fish ... ;) Apr 22 03:44:21 You know I hate windows, but if at least they got the file redirection well done, we might as well use it and avoid the cygwin installation, ... as I say always, another layer for errors :) Apr 22 03:44:30 LOL Apr 22 03:45:11 wait til I finish the page, it's not just "copy and paste", it will be explained Apr 22 03:46:21 good :) my documentation wasn't exactly the best :p Apr 22 03:48:37 I'm off to bed for real now, night :) Apr 22 03:56:19 One thing is trying to install an unsupported operating system version on your device and other very different is see a static hp or palm or Tux logo on your screen and the fear of not seeing your files again, or what if your device breaks hard and only the volume button works :) Apr 22 04:01:03 NuttyBunny: these are the people that really shouldn't be playing with unsupported operating systems until they're a little more proven, eh? Apr 22 04:01:15 Today turned to be a nice day after all: I donated platelets to a patient at my gf's hospital, I got another Pixi backup, I got my Pixi, I helped JetUni to recover his files... I just couldn't do 2 things: Unlock the Pixi and run Android on the Plus.... Apr 22 04:01:33 destinal: yeah, it can work for them also Apr 22 04:01:50 I get tired of people coming and asking the same ;) Apr 22 04:02:13 NuttyBunny: just saying, people not comfortable with making backups and doctoring their device on their own really should stay out at this phase. it's bleeding edge time Apr 22 04:02:54 just like these guys wouldn't be well served by running linux kernel 0.99 and so on :) Apr 22 04:03:13 * ka6sox-away has phones for this sort of thing... Apr 22 04:04:10 people get tired and "want" to try somethig else, but even if the poster says: "experimental, can break your phone, etc", they DON'T READ THAT and go and brick their devices (sic) Apr 22 04:04:38 and as well, they DON'T READ and don't know that the instructions to recover their devices are in the same stupid thread Apr 22 04:04:57 NuttyBunny: yeah but forgive me if I don't want to rush out and help people who break their phones out of boredom and not following directions Apr 22 04:05:18 well I did something that shouldn't have done this, but if I would've known I would've backed it up....and the best way to learn is by trying stuff right Apr 22 04:05:30 reminds me the last 3 or 4 pages of the meta doctor 2.1 upgrade page installing with windows :) Apr 22 04:06:15 destinal: that's the reason of the wiki's... later I just tend to say something like "ah, you used windows, you're f*cked, read this warning from Rod, and go here to use linux" Apr 22 04:06:36 but JetUni proposed a nice challenge :D Apr 22 04:07:59 haha so apparently Windows sucks if you're using Palm stuff... Apr 22 04:08:06 JetUni: yeah, well, learning is good, no denying that. I think to some degree people are spoiled on a strong webos advanced homebrew ecosystem that doesn't tend to break stuff Apr 22 04:08:06 and well, after backing up 3 pixis, I thought it could be used for this exact purpose, and maybe we wouldn't even need cygwin, make, python, git, etc... just some lines to backup the usb partition Apr 22 04:08:33 ie people are used to things, even exotic things like replacing your kernel being solid and just working if it's stuff webos-internals is doing Apr 22 04:08:47 but other kinds of stuff, not always the same standards Apr 22 04:10:16 Indeed. I really like webos-internals way of doing things, but I'm just not as patient :( Apr 22 04:10:17 NuttyBunny: yeah, the wiki articles give you what you need there I think, just boot the installer image, use novacom to dd Apr 22 04:10:28 no need for python etc Apr 22 04:10:48 it just finished writing a total of 12GB !! Apr 22 04:11:08 excellent, open it with winrar and extract some random file and check it's ok! :D Apr 22 04:11:35 NuttyBunny: hmm, used tar? Apr 22 04:12:01 does jzip work? Apr 22 04:12:14 no idea, try it Apr 22 04:12:40 destinal: yes, since we're not running in cygwin, no gzip Apr 22 04:12:48 it does!! and they're all there and ok!! yes!!! Apr 22 04:13:01 and I didn't check if the installer image comes with gzip Apr 22 04:13:36 now you can finish the wiki and say that it worked on your test case...haha Apr 22 04:13:46 excellent :) Apr 22 04:14:40 ah, gzip is there! Apr 22 04:15:10 ah, it works.... Apr 22 04:16:29 So, meta doctor should work with novacom -w run file://bin/tar -- -C /tmp/media/ --totals -czf - . > media.tgz as well, and it even works with windows, no cygwin Apr 22 04:18:51 ok, wiki created, I'll update it later, basic layout is there :) Apr 22 04:20:19 NuttyBunny: why would you even need metadoctor? Apr 22 04:21:28 destinal: MetaDoctor can do a full backup of your device, but most people don't need that, they only want their files Apr 22 04:21:36 just novacom boot mem the installer image, novaterm in and run the mount commands, then do your novacom tar Apr 22 04:22:14 yes, you and I can do that Apr 22 04:22:32 NuttyBunny: if it was put in a batch file, so could anyone :) Apr 22 04:22:38 but think of the mom that just got her Pre and for some reason got fucked Apr 22 04:23:43 NuttyBunny: um, this is way beyond mom, she should doctor (and doctoring with the same image won't lose her pictures) Apr 22 04:24:25 ok, ok, it was for me, just for me, It was a challenge that I wanted to see if it could be done :P Apr 22 04:24:58 I wanted to see if it worked on windows as well as in linux :) Apr 22 04:25:18 yeah, the installer image is really handy, and yeah, novacom boot mem and novacom run xyz are great in windows or linux or OSX alike Apr 22 04:25:25 nutty! Apr 22 04:25:48 how goes the pixi madness? Apr 22 04:25:52 I love to know the internals of things, how they work, how they interact, that's the reason I'm into booting the stupid android image too, just to see it in person :D Apr 22 04:26:12 Saij: It hasn't begun yet, not until I unlock my Pixi Apr 22 04:26:31 NuttyBunny: what do you mean unlock Apr 22 04:26:35 Ah, fair enough man. I'm prety excited to see that even happening Apr 22 04:27:06 destinal: It's an AT&T Pre Plus and won't accept my Telcel SIM, it's carrier locked Apr 22 04:27:24 s/Pre/Pixi/ Apr 22 04:27:24 NuttyBunny meant: destinal: It's an AT&T Pixi Plus and won't accept my Telcel SIM, it's carrier locked Apr 22 04:27:27 ATT is nice about that, just tell them you're traveling out of the country Apr 22 04:27:44 Saij: you have to actually have an account with them though Apr 22 04:27:56 mmm... I think I'm the third owner :S Apr 22 04:28:04 Oh, right. Never thouhgt about that haha. Apr 22 04:28:22 NuttyBunny: do you really need telephony for what you're working on though? Apr 22 04:29:00 destinal: well, it has to work, doesn't it? and I won't be able to test if it won't accept my sim Apr 22 04:29:26 NuttyBunny: I was thinking wifi only, but you mean you want to see if it works as a phone too? Apr 22 04:29:59 destinal: Of course! The whole package!! It's an image from a GSM Pixi that works as a phone over there Apr 22 04:30:44 Change the partitions sizes, extract, run, should be piece of cake.............. (I always tend to be too optimistic) Apr 22 04:31:24 NuttyBunny: actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was that easy, though I probably would have made a backup of the whole disk and just skip restoring the nvram section Apr 22 04:31:35 rather than partition by partition Apr 22 04:31:43 And it shouldn't matter for cdma people as well, I don't plan on updating the modem firmware Apr 22 04:32:01 well, meta doctor was the tool available at the moment, and it did its work :D Apr 22 04:32:21 besides, it was my first time making a backup of that type Apr 22 04:32:23 NuttyBunny: well, at least on the pre, skipping ahead versions without updating modem firmware causes .. issues Apr 22 04:32:43 but since the pixi is one SoC, maybe not the same deal Apr 22 04:33:27 mmmm... I shall see the Pixi Doctor... but i think it has a cdma firmware file and a gsm file... Apr 22 04:34:06 NuttyBunny: much depends on whether you have the firmware image that corresponds with the version of the OS you're trying to restore too, yeah? Apr 22 04:34:25 the reason I got a gsm one is to try testing with Telcel, because the cdma carrier is a pain in the ***, so, other people will have to test and make it work in sprint and verizon Apr 22 04:34:35 I don't think we have the modem firmware backup Apr 22 04:35:16 and I don't think we can get one... or I haven't read a way of doing it Apr 22 04:35:22 Hey thanks a bunch +NuttyBunny!!! I owe you one! haha see y'all later Apr 22 04:35:24 for example webos 2.x on pre with the modem firmware that came along with 1.4.5 had weird issues but was still useable Apr 22 04:35:47 JetUni: ok! c-ya! Apr 22 04:35:57 it just claimed every call was dropped when it ended normally and wouldn't do SMS without strange corruption and so on Apr 22 04:36:12 ah, yes, I remember reading that Apr 22 04:36:55 people will have to live with that, or if someone finds the way to backup a Pixi modem firmware, that would be nice also Apr 22 04:37:10 the 2.1 guy has already doctored back to 1.4.5 :@ Apr 22 04:38:02 the 2.0 guy which Backup I got today, still has 2.0, and his brother has 2.0.1 or something like that... we may be able to recover those firmwares Apr 22 04:38:15 but those are for gsm :( Apr 22 04:41:12 well, gotta go, I don't wanna drool over the keyboard :) Apr 22 04:41:23 one quick q? Apr 22 04:42:46 drool + keyboard = mess Apr 22 04:42:59 really quick, shoot Apr 22 04:43:16 status of Messaging patch for 1.4.5? Apr 22 04:44:05 This weekend I might have some fixes for msn, aol and sametime I think Apr 22 04:44:33 ah, fbchat may work as well, but i'm not sure Apr 22 04:44:36 Awesome :) Just wanted to see what was going on there. I know you had to update to latest libpurple which is likely not trivial Apr 22 04:45:36 the non-trivial thing was switching compilers and rebuilding libraries (by the way, I'm still having issued with one) Apr 22 04:46:13 No rush, I can't help you do the work so I'm not going to pester you Apr 22 04:46:20 Just wanted to hear what was going on. Apr 22 04:46:36 ok.. well, c-ya people Apr 22 04:46:41 Besides, it may not matter if we get webos 2.x or Android PP Apr 22 04:46:43 later Apr 22 04:51:19 oh no...that means "FOREVER" Apr 22 08:42:30 rwhitby: ping Apr 22 08:42:40 hape: syn|ack Apr 22 08:43:17 I have a lot of this errors im my log from preware Apr 22 08:43:39 http://pastebin.com/Ag66XVny Apr 22 08:44:26 Do we have a problems in the feeds, preware or on my device? Apr 22 08:44:36 yes, there is some character in the descriptions which is triggering an error in the new native json parser in webOS 2.x Apr 22 08:44:58 ok, it is webos 2.1 on my dev Pre2 Apr 22 08:45:54 I haven't looked at it in enough detail to work out exactly which characters are causing it. If you see a pattern please let me know. Apr 22 08:46:22 ok Apr 22 08:53:34 is anybody else having lots of choppyness/lag problems with 2.1 on a Pre-? Apr 22 08:53:57 mine seems to hang for 10 seconds or more for no apparent reason every now and then Apr 22 09:03:54 phoque_uni, using Echange Active Sync ? Apr 22 09:04:04 no Apr 22 09:04:23 it seems to me that WiFi disconnects/connects are causing them Apr 22 09:04:34 and that being logged in into GTalk makes it worse Apr 22 09:04:55 oh and being on cellular data makes the device barely usable Apr 22 09:05:19 so... something with the connection handling maybe Apr 22 09:05:28 also, PDK apps make the device really really slow Apr 22 09:05:54 Terminal (besides not working at all) almost kills it Apr 22 09:06:02 so does drPodder while playback Apr 22 09:06:13 I'm on 1GHz mind you Apr 22 09:16:15 do someone have the command handy to install an ipk from the command line? Apr 22 13:11:42 hape: if you have the sdk installed.. palm-install ____.ipk Apr 22 13:20:44 anyone in here wanna try out my patch? unlocked pre2 required Apr 22 14:28:38 * PatrickC_Pre2 is gonna try to get 2.x only apps running on 1.4.5 Apr 22 15:00:34 Anyone knows the difference between the "Unlock" code and an "UnBlock" code??? Apr 22 15:02:10 Hi there, I just got two palm pre plus verizon from e-bay, but I cant log in to it... How can I activate it without verizon? could anybody send me a link? I greatly appreciate it! Apr 22 15:02:33 make a meta-doctor Apr 22 15:03:06 renancoelho, you can use meta-doctor to bypass activation, but if you want to use it as a phone you'll still need verison Apr 22 15:03:28 but they do make handy pda type web browsing wifi devices Apr 22 15:03:55 that they do RagingMine Apr 22 15:03:59 I am from florida, here there is a company(Metro PCS), and they flash the device so you can use it on their network. Apr 22 15:04:01 RagingMind* Apr 22 15:04:24 But I will only go to them next month, so I thought I could start playing with them now. Apr 22 15:04:30 MetroPCS is GSM I believe Apr 22 15:04:41 No, its CDMA... Apr 22 15:04:46 renancoelho, if you have a way or company that's willing to unlock the phone... just use a doctor to completely reset it to factory settings Apr 22 15:05:00 I think it's www.palm.com/rom Apr 22 15:05:42 RagingMind: And that should also let me bypass activation? Apr 22 15:05:56 renancoelho, yup... check that link. you can reset it to factory defaults, you won't be able to use the phone until someone unlocks it though Apr 22 15:06:38 there is a palm tool to bypass activation... a quick google search will bring that up Apr 22 15:07:21 or a meta-doctor that bypasses activation and allows palm-profile creation over wifi Apr 22 15:07:22 or you can use the home-brew "meta-doctor" (palm provides just "doctors") to get around the activation part Apr 22 15:07:32 PatrickC_Pre2, we already went over that Apr 22 15:07:39 backlogs are a wonderful thing ;) Apr 22 15:07:57 hehe, how true (didn't see that) Apr 22 15:08:17 Okay, Thank you very much you guys! Really appreciate it! Got to go now, my 18 month old is screaming in my ears! thanks again! Apr 22 15:08:54 PatrickC_Pre2, because he want's to take it to a company and get it unlocked it's probably better that he doesn't stray too far outside of the standard tools until he gets that done Apr 22 15:09:27 ahh didn't think about that Apr 22 15:11:01 if an action can be done with palm tools, it's better to try that first. especially with someone that's new Apr 22 16:29:28 As of this moment, all work on the Plugins gets halted for a few days. THE PIXI IS UNLOCKED! :D Apr 22 16:31:33 yay!!! Apr 22 16:33:19 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pixi/280992-webos-2-1-pixi-effort-official-thread.html Apr 22 16:33:43 * PatrickC_Pre2 goes to look Apr 22 16:35:42 cool!! Apr 22 16:37:05 Fun fact: I say: "I don't know if this will work on a cdma pixi", and guess what's the first comment?:... yes: "I have a cdma pixi, make it work" Apr 22 16:38:02 I saw that :p Apr 22 16:40:10 heheh... I like Nautilus (the Ubuntu file manager)... clone a folder and it gets named: "folder (copy)"... clone it again and: "folder (another copy)".. hehehe Apr 22 16:41:07 haha Apr 22 16:41:52 /ignore zacky59 Apr 22 16:42:10 who? Apr 22 16:46:33 Precentral, the troll ;) Apr 22 16:47:18 oh lol Apr 22 16:48:56 I think we know what pixi versions are CDMA :o Apr 22 16:48:57 hehe Apr 22 16:54:22 From the 2.1 Pre Doctor: # pixie needs more swap space than other devices. # Name of pixie kernel is uImage-...-chuck ... so, there IS info on the Pixi here... Apr 22 16:58:48 hey guys, can you look at this? https://mobile.twitter.com/r9skull/status/61466382566559745 Apr 22 16:59:52 ok, how the hell did you remove it?? Apr 22 17:00:34 I didn't Apr 22 17:00:35 yet Apr 22 17:00:43 but I have to Apr 22 17:00:56 why? Apr 22 17:01:47 are you installing a custom app catalog to replace the original one? Apr 22 17:01:49 because app catalog doesn't downloading / updating any app Apr 22 17:02:45 I know that I can just do Full Erase but I don't wanna do this Apr 22 17:02:54 this isn't windows. you can't expect to "fix" the app catalog by deleting/reinstalling it, even more if it's a core app Apr 22 17:03:07 did you do something that could make your app catalog stop working? Apr 22 17:03:39 don't know but it's again stop working Apr 22 17:04:01 last time I did full erase and voila Apr 22 17:04:07 it works Apr 22 17:04:39 weird... now, the fun part. What device, webos version, country and carrier are we talking about? Apr 22 17:04:45 and after couple doctoring it again stop working Apr 22 17:05:21 Palm Pre, webos 1.4.5, O2, unlocked, Poland Apr 22 17:06:58 Since you have a supported device, supported carrier, etc, you should go to the palm page and ask for support there. There have been problems with the app catalog these days, Palm is upgrading stuff on their servers for the Veer and Touchpad, and there have been certain problems, specially for europe users Apr 22 17:07:51 I think I don't have supported carrier Apr 22 17:08:08 it's polish carrier "Play" Apr 22 17:08:17 But you had access before Apr 22 17:08:20 tell them that Apr 22 17:08:36 I will Apr 22 17:09:33 Hope it gets fixed without the need to do full erase :D Apr 22 17:09:56 me too ;d Apr 22 17:10:41 anyway thanks Apr 22 17:15:32 r9s_: you can unpack a doctor and build the appcatalog ipk if you need to Apr 22 17:16:17 he can also use the dummymaker app, but that's not the issue :D Apr 22 17:16:38 hehe, true Apr 22 17:16:46 PatrickC: tell me more about it Apr 22 17:16:56 what desktop os? Apr 22 17:17:10 linux / windows Apr 22 17:17:29 well, NuttyBunny would help with linux, I help with windows :) Apr 22 17:17:50 I don't have much experience unpacking things on linux yet Apr 22 17:18:20 ok if support won't help me I'll come here Apr 22 17:18:33 and you can even get the new 2.x app catalog working on 1.4.5 (I did :)) Apr 22 17:18:36 at now I'm going offline, bye Apr 22 17:18:44 ok, bye Apr 22 17:18:48 morning Adora Apr 22 17:19:42 Morning Adora :) You should have spare glasses at the office ;) Apr 22 17:19:44 NuttyBunny: is it the same process on linux as windows? Apr 22 17:20:03 what process? Apr 22 17:20:26 to unzip a .jar file like a doctor to extract files Apr 22 17:21:16 well, you extract it with the "builtin" file extractor, so it should be the same Apr 22 17:21:29 ok, thanks Apr 22 18:20:55 suppose my volume up botton was bat.... is there a way to get the pre into usb mode? Apr 22 18:25:01 bad* Apr 22 18:31:36 M4X: If you have developer mode on, yes Apr 22 18:31:51 shit. its the new pre2 Apr 22 18:32:14 when it boots up i am just getting the spinning circle... won't let me run the doctor. Apr 22 18:32:46 but if it's new, how can the volume button be bad? Apr 22 18:33:18 I suppose I could've messed it up. I am defintely pressing the button. Apr 22 18:33:29 unplug usb, remove battery, press and keep volume up, plug usb (you should see a battery icon with a ? inside), insert battery, you should see usb icon Apr 22 18:34:15 goes straight to the palm screen Apr 22 18:34:20 fuck i think its bad Apr 22 18:34:57 could be, if it goes directly then maybe it's broken Apr 22 18:36:22 think if i send this to palm they would notice that i switched the com boards lol Apr 22 18:37:40 so there is no way around it huh? this is terrible. Apr 22 18:37:50 what's up? Apr 22 18:37:58 i think my vol up button is broken. Apr 22 18:38:12 aaaaaah! you switched boards? you broke the vol button, 100% sure Apr 22 18:38:17 bbl Apr 22 18:38:25 hmm.. can't you take it off and fix it? Apr 22 18:38:36 i suppose... i don't know what i messed up Apr 22 18:39:02 I need to fix my power button Apr 22 18:41:37 you think i can get palm to fix it Apr 22 18:41:38 ? Apr 22 18:42:31 how old is the phone? and has it been opened? Apr 22 18:43:01 i think it was a dev phone gave out and by opened you mean out of the box? Apr 22 18:43:37 by opened I mean the phone itself, like have you taken the phone apart *at all*? Apr 22 18:43:57 yeah i have Apr 22 18:44:08 they are going to tell me to fly a kite fml Apr 22 18:44:15 afaik that = warranty voided Apr 22 18:45:03 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2#Step_8 Apr 22 18:45:12 that and step 9 are where you need to look Apr 22 18:45:39 I'm gonna start doctoring regularly :) Apr 22 18:45:53 my device is sooo much faster after the doctor Apr 22 18:46:07 Loudergood: what should I be looking for? I had everything put together and the button pressed but it wouldn't go into usb mode. Apr 22 18:46:51 check the volume wire Apr 22 18:47:54 it looks a little messed up but I would think it would be working. Apr 22 18:48:06 no worse then the pre- Apr 22 18:53:40 thanks for the help guys Apr 22 18:53:43 i am goign to get wasted now lol Apr 22 18:59:34 rwhitby, any updates on linphone ? Apr 22 19:06:34 we need a backup program like Blackberry has... Apr 22 19:08:24 lol...hows that wiki coming Apr 22 19:11:13 NuttyBunny was writing it iirc :) Apr 22 19:14:50 and Blackberry has an official easy way to usb tether for internet.. no wonder we lose people to them :/ Apr 22 19:16:19 just set up my dad with freetether today Apr 22 19:16:26 he is happy as a clam Apr 22 19:16:48 if there is a reason people are leaving its probably because they can't get the devices Apr 22 19:17:04 did you show him how to change some settings? Apr 22 19:18:01 * PatrickC_Pre2 hopes this makes boot time quicker on the bberry Apr 22 19:18:11 anyone here on a wifi only pre2? Apr 22 19:18:19 what settings? Apr 22 19:18:33 showed him how to set up wpa2 Apr 22 19:18:43 and installed the usb tether driver Apr 22 19:18:46 ^^ that setting :) Apr 22 19:19:25 you can also now set it to auto start some services (like wifi hotspot) at app launch Apr 22 19:19:45 nah, too much battery drain Apr 22 19:22:01 true Apr 22 19:22:46 what device does he have? Apr 22 19:23:29 sprint pre Apr 22 19:23:39 did you try MHS? Apr 22 19:23:46 does he have Impostah? Apr 22 19:23:48 which is remarkable for having NO OREO EFFECT WHATSOEVER Apr 22 19:24:03 surprised me alot Apr 22 19:24:05 wha?!?! my pre2 has the Oreo!! Apr 22 19:24:38 yea, all the pres i went thru getting my sprint pre plus had oreo, some worse than others Apr 22 19:24:51 mhs? impostah? Apr 22 19:25:12 MHS = Mobile HotSpot Apr 22 19:25:19 Impostah = amazing app Apr 22 19:25:33