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Apr 28 03:00:40 <NickNick> rwhitby: i dont know. I just followed the advice from the poster of that script. Is there a better place to put it?
Apr 28 03:01:21 <rwhitby> NickNick: well, if it's put there, then you'll need to make the rootfs writeable first
Apr 28 03:03:42 <NickNick> rwhitby: i thought it was by default with SDL terminal...?
Apr 28 03:04:02 <rwhitby> NickNick: I hope not
Apr 28 03:04:21 <NickNick> ok, well thats strange because i was able to copy that file over without any thing other than mv
Apr 28 03:09:19 <NickNick> rwhitby: so /media/internal/ is a better home?
Apr 28 03:20:44 <rwhitby> NickNick: your device probably has rootfs writeable permanently, which is not the default state
Apr 28 03:21:32 <NickNick> ok. I remounted read only. not sure how it got set with write permissions.
Apr 28 03:22:54 <NickNick> rwhitby: can you recommend a better location for that file instead of /etc/init.d/?
Apr 28 03:23:42 <rwhitby> NickNick: /var/usr/bin/ perhaps
Apr 28 03:23:57 <NickNick> rwhitby: thank you very much.
Apr 28 03:24:32 * rwhitby bbl
Apr 28 05:09:19 <undrwater> owdy
Apr 28 05:46:10 <summatusmentis> has anyone tried "reverse engineering" the palm cloud stuff so that someone could run their own sync server?
Apr 28 06:47:20 <swisstomcat> morning
Apr 28 08:17:56 <Flashpass> Hmm...so why do the Sprint Pre 2 WOSI instructions state that there is no possibility of using Sprint Navigation? I was able to just copy the ipk over and install it without any issue.
Apr 28 11:25:26 <Reckie> Hiya, anyone been looking at the charmap of webos ie the one you get when pressing Sym + a char? Was wondering if its possible to alter the position of characters in that map. Perhaps based on what country the phone was set to in the preferences.
Apr 28 14:57:04 <PatrickC_Home> is this a good, minor, definition of Memboot?
Apr 28 14:57:04 <PatrickC_Home> Memboot is when you boot a kernel for a shot time (untill the phone restarts again) and it allows you to fix stuff in it.
Apr 28 14:58:12 <halfhalo> no... memboot let's you boot the phone using a (usually) an off device kernel, generally over usb.
Apr 28 14:59:03 <PatrickC_Home> ok, cause some people on the forums uninstalled Uberkernel and their device is not unbootable
Apr 28 14:59:08 <PatrickC_Home> its stuck in a boot cycle
Apr 28 14:59:30 <PatrickC_Home> http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/281321-webos-2-1-removing-uberkernnel-bug.html#post2948374
Apr 28 15:57:11 <GodShapedHole> Sup
Apr 28 15:58:11 <GodShapedHole> Does anybody know what can be done if 2.1 constantly asks you to reboot and resync because my "application database" is full?
Apr 28 15:59:05 <swisstomcat> db8 full? it's only 20mb
Apr 28 16:00:48 <GodShapedHole> what can I do against that? it's happened twice in the last 24 hours and requires me to resync all of my apps.
Apr 28 16:02:52 <GodShapedHole> which takes like three hours over wifi because I have a whole bunch of apps.
Apr 28 16:07:19 <GodShapedHole> webOS is the best OS around when it works... but it seems to rarely work correctly
Apr 28 16:11:18 <GodShapedHole> so is this an issue where I have to suck it up and run the first start app twice a day, spending six hours a day just resyncing apps?
Apr 28 16:18:29 <summatusmentis> or get rid of some apps
Apr 28 16:18:40 <summatusmentis> or figure out what's eating up the space
Apr 28 17:28:27 <th3vo1d> ok this screen brightness control patch is annoying
Apr 28 17:28:55 <NuttyBunny> uninstall it ;)
Apr 28 17:29:47 <th3vo1d> is there a way to have an override slider and retain the ambient sensor control?
Apr 28 17:31:52 <NuttyBunny> mmm.. no idea, but most of it is configurable in some way, you'd just have to look in the .js files, patch something :S
Apr 28 17:33:29 <th3vo1d> i have the jason r. "brightness in device menu"
Apr 28 17:55:27 <NuttyBunny> th3vo1d: So, when you move the slider the ambient sensor gets disabled??
Apr 28 17:59:42 <th3vo1d> when i have the patch installed, the brightness stays at the slider setting forever
Apr 28 18:00:11 <th3vo1d> which is rather annoying when its nighttime in a dark room and its at 100% blinding level from earlier
Apr 28 18:04:48 <NuttyBunny> Why don't you remove the brighness control patch and try with sconix patches?
Apr 28 18:05:33 <th3vo1d> sconix?
Apr 28 18:05:39 <th3vo1d> already removed it
Apr 28 18:06:45 <SineOt> sconix writes patches for webOS internals
Apr 28 18:06:49 <SineOt> they're awesome :p
Apr 28 18:07:16 <SineOt> do the duty of like a ton of other patches and gives you options to control almost every aspect of the patch's behavior
Apr 28 18:07:54 <PatrickC_Home> cya, time for school
Apr 28 18:09:16 <th3vo1d> what would i find these under in preware?
Apr 28 18:11:59 <SineOt> I think most are under "advanced"
Apr 28 18:24:21 <th3vo1d> all of his stuff says not available in 1.4.5
Apr 28 18:25:06 <SineOt> there's 1.4.5 versions
Apr 28 18:25:14 <SineOt> but not sure what name they're under
Apr 28 18:25:18 <SineOt> I've got them on my Pixi :p
Apr 28 18:26:22 * NuttyBunny shows off ... I can install them on my Pixi :P
Apr 28 18:26:52 <SineOt> NuttyBunny: how goes the progress?
Apr 28 18:27:43 <NuttyBunny> It's there, but there's no way to create a doctor without redistributing propietary code :S
Apr 28 18:34:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> I know where Just Type is stored!!
Apr 28 18:39:50 <PatrickC_Pre2> beta-testers needed
Apr 28 21:21:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> anyone make sense of this?http://pastebin.com/0Nwx882V
Apr 28 22:06:34 <raph_ael> hi
Apr 29 00:51:07 <PatrickC_Pre2> has anyone tripple booted their pre?
Apr 29 00:57:08 <keith> whats the 3rd?
Apr 29 00:57:12 <keith> pre, android and what?
Apr 29 00:58:26 <summatusmentis> people run debian in a chroot, as an example
Apr 29 01:00:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> Pre, Android, SHR
Apr 29 01:01:12 <keith> what is shr?
Apr 29 01:01:17 <keith> oh
Apr 29 01:01:21 <keith> openmoko renamed, heh
Apr 29 01:01:58 <keith> i wondeer if its any better than it was back in the day
Apr 29 01:02:43 <PatrickC_Pre2> http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/PalmPre
Apr 29 01:03:21 <keith> yup, saw that
Apr 29 01:03:28 <keith> i got the openmoko device around here somewhere
Apr 29 01:03:34 <keith> and a zaurus
Apr 29 01:03:56 <keith> i recall the QT interface and the GTK one both very vividly :)
Apr 29 01:03:59 <PatrickC_Pre2> I have Android working fine too
Apr 29 01:04:13 <keith> well working fine meaning as good as that build works?
Apr 29 01:04:23 <keith> i should try them out
Apr 29 01:04:29 <keith> one of these days
Apr 29 01:04:34 <keith> lemme know how it all goes
Apr 29 01:04:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> it takes 3 novacom cmds
Apr 29 01:04:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> and like 6 files on the USB drive
Apr 29 01:05:03 <PatrickC_Pre2> and, only Wifi works atm, no cell radio
Apr 29 01:12:58 <rwhitby> keith: I got 2 x GTA01 and 2 x GTA02 in a box here :)
Apr 29 01:13:08 <keith> haha nice
Apr 29 01:13:11 <keith> i got a gta01, it sucks :(
Apr 29 01:13:15 <keith> do you have the gps unit too?
Apr 29 01:13:23 <rwhitby> keith: nope, no Dash
Apr 29 01:13:56 <rwhitby> keith: the GTA02's have had the hardware fix done to them too
Apr 29 01:14:32 <PatrickC_Pre2> what are all those lol
Apr 29 01:14:33 <keith> oh good
Apr 29 01:14:38 <keith> rwhitby: openmoko devices.
Apr 29 01:14:48 <PatrickC_Pre2> ah ok
Apr 29 01:14:57 <keith> rwhitby: how many of the optware devices do you actually have?
Apr 29 01:15:51 <rwhitby> keith: quite a few routers and NAS boxes.  Synology and QNAP send me stuff for free :)
Apr 29 01:16:30 <keith> awesome. i have 2 qnap ts-809s, sold my ts-439, trying to sell my thecus n5200 pro and promise ns4300n
Apr 29 01:16:35 <keith> so if anyone wants a nas... :P
Apr 29 01:16:36 * rwhitby runs a DS1010 at home these days, and a DS710 at work for offsite hot-swap backup of home
Apr 29 01:16:53 <keith> you like the synologies?
Apr 29 01:17:05 <keith> i use the qnaps cuz of how awesome x86 support is and how many qpkgs are out there
Apr 29 01:17:12 <rwhitby> yeah, the linux environment on them is not as screwed up as on the qnaps
Apr 29 01:17:27 <keith> hahaha
Apr 29 01:17:39 <keith> i wish the community rallied around syn as much as they have qnap
Apr 29 01:17:51 <rwhitby> I ran a TS209/TS409 combo for some time
Apr 29 01:18:00 <rwhitby> but swapped it out for the synos
Apr 29 01:18:07 <keith> sweet
Apr 29 01:18:15 <rwhitby> didn't pay a cent for any of it :)
Apr 29 01:18:31 <keith> i dont want to get into how much my nas addiction has costed me :P
Apr 29 01:18:56 <keith> i just picked up a ts-809 for only $865USD shipped the other day tho
Apr 29 01:19:04 <keith> i think i'm going to mess with iscsi and esxi with it.
Apr 29 01:20:07 <keith> aw, only 2 x86 units and they're atom-based. :(
Apr 29 01:20:31 <keith> the 809 is 2.8ghz c2d so i run: squeezebox server, sabnzbd, crashplan, sickbeard, couchpotato and rtorrent on mine
Apr 29 01:20:44 <keith> my ts-439 couldnt handle more than 3 of those at a time haha
Apr 29 01:20:57 <keith> (atom 300 1.6ghz single core)
Apr 29 01:21:09 <keith> have you done anything with SHR?
Apr 29 01:21:26 <rwhitby> other than write the original Makefile for it, not really.
Apr 29 01:22:15 * rwhitby bbl
Apr 29 01:27:05 <PatrickC_Pre2> keith: do you have a Pre-
Apr 29 01:27:13 <keith> somewhere
Apr 29 01:27:22 <keith> i use a pre plus running 2.1 (thx rwhitby!) on vzw tho
Apr 29 01:27:23 <keith> why?
Apr 29 01:27:40 <PatrickC_Pre2> Android can only run on the Pre-
Apr 29 01:27:43 <PatrickC_Pre2> not plus or 2
Apr 29 01:27:54 <keith> aw
Apr 29 01:28:02 <keith> i got an android device (n1) anyways so that isnt as important
Apr 29 01:28:11 <keith> shr looks appealing tho
Apr 29 01:28:16 <keith> gettin back to my roots
Apr 29 01:28:18 <ctbeiser> Is there a reason for that or is it just a little dumb bug?
Apr 29 01:29:19 <PatrickC_Pre2> dumb bog
Apr 29 01:29:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> bug*
Apr 29 01:37:29 <NickNick> anybody over here who can help with an upstart issue?
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