**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 03 02:59:58 2011 May 03 03:17:08 PatrickC_Pre2: usually the patch maker has made a forum topic on it May 03 03:23:33 its not the patch maker, but the portal itself.. May 03 03:25:51 you should probably blame ka6sox-away if I'm not mistaken May 03 03:26:01 it was putting error code on the site in view for all May 03 03:40:32 really? May 03 03:40:40 yep May 03 03:40:50 it has error codes? May 03 03:40:53 I have a screenshot on the desktop, but its off for the night May 03 03:41:39 * halfhalo is not conviced. that thing is hell in a file resembling php May 03 03:43:02 I'll upload a screenshot tomorrow May 03 03:44:17 what type of errors was it spitting out May 03 03:44:46 something about preware iirc May 03 03:45:07 but I don't remember all of 'em, there weren't many though May 03 03:46:06 so after much reading and making sure I'm in the clear with everything, I do my first hardware swap this week. Sprint Pixi Plus May 03 03:46:22 * halfhalo thinks he knows what the issue is May 03 03:46:46 so if I'm comfy with that, I will be ready to do my Sprint Pre2 project (which I'm nervous about because of the slider) May 03 03:46:50 what halfhalo? I'm interested :) May 03 03:47:20 screenshot first May 03 03:47:44 I'll provide that tomorrow.. I guess I'll wait May 03 03:47:55 the PC is shut off, and I'm gettin ready for bed May 03 03:48:27 * halfhalo never shuts his dev comp off. May 03 03:48:43 its not my dev comp May 03 03:50:12 * halfhalo only has dev comp and gaming desktop in his room atm May 03 03:51:17 dunno where lappytops are atm May 03 03:52:17 * PatrickC_Pre2 is off to bed May 03 03:52:20 night all May 03 05:50:33 morning May 03 06:18:51 Hey May 03 06:19:09 What channel is best to ask for hardware help with pre ? May 03 06:20:18 Ive got a Free "mostly" brocken Palm Pre problem is there is a Crack in the Display Cover Display is Working fine but Problem is Touch screen isnt working anymore any chance to repair it self? May 03 07:44:52 morning guys May 03 07:53:32 morning May 03 07:55:53 hey swisstomcat May 03 07:56:17 was gibts? May 03 07:57:23 nix, wollte nur hallo sagen May 03 07:58:27 hallo May 03 07:58:46 hey May 03 07:58:47 swisstomcat oder ice8lue könnt ihr mir ggf. mit nem Pre fehler helfen? May 03 07:59:03 was für einer? May 03 07:59:31 Touchscreengeht nicht mehr und Riss im Display aber nicht oben sondern quasi unten May 03 08:00:33 mal runter gefallen? wenn du noch garantie drauf hast, wende dich an palm, die tauschen den May 03 08:00:36 http://imgur.com/vMqMD fällt wohl noch unter garantie ? May 03 08:01:03 da hast nen bild weil der riss ist nicht zu fühlen bzw hört sichtbar am display rand jeweils auf May 03 08:01:17 ja garantie is noch drauf chancen gut? May 03 08:01:39 Display Geht noch zu 100% man sieht keine kristalle oder so wie sonst bei gebrochenen tfts bzw lcds May 03 08:02:37 auweia May 03 08:02:46 probieren kannst du es wohl May 03 08:02:56 autsch... ja ich denke schon das das klappt May 03 08:03:00 bist du ein webos-entwickler oder daran interessiert? May 03 08:03:41 swisstomcat: was hat das denn damit zutun? May 03 08:04:00 dann bekommt er vielleicht einen pre2 :) May 03 08:04:10 ich bin interessiert dev zu werden May 03 08:04:21 was müsst ich dafür machen ? May 03 08:04:28 achso ;) jap das fetzt natürlich, hab auch einen bekommen May 03 08:04:46 wie denn May 03 08:04:49 mpingu: gleich ice8lue fragen :) May 03 08:04:58 oder sonst kann ich dir vielleicht einen organisieren May 03 08:05:00 oki ice8lue dann erklär mal ;) May 03 08:05:02 wäre cool May 03 08:05:16 ich hab leider nur noch einen im moment May 03 08:05:18 und ja ich hab interesse ich wollte was richtung it security tools machen May 03 08:05:19 swisstomcat sitzt ja jetzt an der quelle ;) May 03 08:05:23 achso May 03 08:05:36 also ich wollte sowas wie Neopwn basteln nur leider is ja der pre nun tot von mir May 03 08:05:50 bis jetzt sprudelt die quelle noch nicht so :) May 03 08:06:09 mpingu: wo wohnst du? May 03 08:06:14 bielefeld also deutschland May 03 08:06:16 naja grundsätzlich musst du eine mail an pdc@palm.com schicken und erklären dass du ein developer gerät brauchst weil... May 03 08:06:30 und das weil sollte ausführlich sein May 03 08:06:32 wie weit ist es nach berlin von bielefeld? May 03 08:06:39 joa paar std. leider May 03 08:06:46 mit bahn 2 oder 3 std. May 03 08:06:49 erklären was du so programmieren willst usw May 03 08:07:03 webosconnect berlin ist bald May 03 08:07:09 vielleicht kannst du kommen May 03 08:07:19 ich bin da :) May 03 08:07:26 ich auch :) May 03 08:07:29 wann usw. ? ich werde mal gucken ob ich da hin kann May 03 08:07:41 wann wird erst noch angekündigt .. hoffentlich bald May 03 08:07:45 achso oki May 03 08:07:54 aber schreib doch an pdc May 03 08:07:54 weil im moment bin ich ganz ohne handy usw. deswegen May 03 08:07:58 jo May 03 08:08:16 also mit den dev devices das kann dauern May 03 08:08:20 Okay also einfach "vernünftige" mail an pdc mit ich würde gerne ein Dev Phone haben weil .... usw. May 03 08:08:24 ja May 03 08:08:29 vor allem wenn du noch keine apps fertig hast May 03 08:08:37 genau May 03 08:08:38 und wenn das zu lange dauert, schaue ich dass ich dir einen schicken kann May 03 08:08:51 also ich hab eben beim support angefragt soll fotos vom pre an und aus schicken wo der riss zu sehen is May 03 08:08:57 und dann sagen die ob garantiefall oder nicht May 03 08:09:00 ok May 03 08:09:16 ich hab grad leider kein micro usb kabel mit nur den pre May 03 08:09:45 meld dich einfach wenn du nicht weiterkommst: mleut@yahoo.com May 03 08:09:48 nargh warum werde ich ständig disconnected? May 03 08:09:55 oki mom speicher ich mir May 03 08:10:10 aber die pre community gefällt mir echt und auch preware usw. May 03 08:10:15 jo May 03 08:10:20 da stimme ich dir zu May 03 08:10:23 :) May 03 08:10:39 und nicht, weil ich bei hp arbeite .. seit gestern :) May 03 08:10:45 mache im moment ne Umschulung zum IT Systemkaufmann und neben App zeug May 03 08:10:58 interessiere ich mich sehr für it security also pentesting usw. May 03 08:11:14 da ist webos-internals siche auch daran interessiert May 03 08:11:17 ich werde bzw wollte erstmal versuchen sachen wie Metasploit usw. fürs Pre zu portieren bzw sachen bauen May 03 08:11:28 am besten kontaktierts du mal rwhitby, sobald er online ist May 03 08:11:35 http://www.neopwn.com/ May 03 08:11:44 sowas wie back track linux fürs n900 May 03 08:11:59 ich finde sowas in der art als Preware Package fürs WebOS wäre sicher nice May 03 08:12:09 webOS basiert ja auf linux May 03 08:12:23 also sollten viele sachen durchaus schon laufen May 03 08:12:36 schau dir mal die optware feeds an May 03 08:13:24 jepps May 03 08:13:48 problem z.b. für Wlan sachen sind man müsste MadWifi Treiber anpassen bzw patch für die Wlan treiber des Pres anpasse May 03 08:13:51 soweit war ich schon ;) May 03 08:14:53 also ich schreib gleich mal ne mail an pdc und dann gucken wir mal May 03 08:14:57 hmz ;) weiß auch nicht ob der pre pakete loggen kann May 03 08:15:02 genau :) May 03 08:15:04 default nicht afaik ;) May 03 08:15:41 es fehlen paar sachen aber die Sollten nachzupatchen sein bzw zu bauen sein ich hab nur leider bisher kein source für die wlan treiber da glaub ich das wird das problem die sind closed source afaik May 03 08:16:32 da musst du rwhitby fragen... der hat wahrscheinlich den besten überblick über die sources May 03 08:18:02 oki May 03 08:19:31 webOS ist imho das beste Smartphone OS ;) also das Multitasking und so May 03 08:19:49 einzige was mich stört ist das die meisten applikationen mit den Selben rechten bzw nicht sandgeboxt usw. laufen May 03 08:19:56 das security technisch nen alptraum ;) May 03 08:19:58 definitiv, ja ;) May 03 08:20:46 Es reicht ja eine Bösartige App usw. ;) May 03 08:21:18 ich bin noch nicht zu 100% fit mit webOS Dev zeug aber ich seh das richtig das die meisten apps JS sind oder? May 03 08:21:25 aber sowas macht man ja nich ;) May 03 08:21:29 jap May 03 08:21:38 ggf mit C-Services May 03 08:22:00 aber wenn du neu anfängst würde ich gleich mit Enyo einsteigen May 03 08:22:14 okay May 03 08:22:23 eyno guck ich mir schon und bastel mit May 03 08:22:41 wobei ich teilweise sicher tiefer als enyo muss wegen netzwerkstack usw. May 03 08:23:40 jap May 03 08:24:08 aber webOS ist dafür die geigneste platform imho weil kein jailbreaken oder rooten muss May 03 08:26:04 ist auch vom support her klasse May 03 08:26:10 jo seh ich ja grade hier May 03 08:26:22 es gibt halt im moment kein "perfektes" pentester handy May 03 08:27:30 ;) ist halt nicht sinn und zweck eines handys May 03 08:27:39 jo klar May 03 08:27:43 aber ist teilweise cooler May 03 08:27:49 wenn man den Social Factor bedenkt May 03 08:28:22 so stell dir mal vor du sollst ne firma "testen" dann kommst ausversehen 30bis 45 min oder so zufrüh zum vorstellungs gespräch oder 15 und wenn da dann mit dem pre sitzt denken die du surfst oder so May 03 08:29:22 xD May 03 08:29:40 fällt weniger auf als ein laptop May 03 08:30:38 ja schon May 03 08:31:05 so und wenn man dann die ganzen berechnungen von der cpu des Pres auf Amazon Cloud auslagert May 03 08:31:09 hat man auch genug rechen power May 03 08:31:51 na da mach mal ;) May 03 08:32:01 Guck Mal Query May 03 08:32:05 kann man das so Schreiben ? May 03 08:33:26 joa geht schon ;) May 03 08:33:53 wichtiger ist, das du sehr genau beschreibst was für apps du basteln willst May 03 08:34:09 also geplante funktionen, zusammenhänge, etc May 03 08:34:17 Ah okay jo das wollt ich jetzt noch May 03 08:36:40 wie sag ich das auf englisch am besten May 03 08:37:06 auf grund hoher cpu power need plane ich die berechnungen von hashes und ähnlichem auf die Amazon Cloud auszulagen? May 03 08:38:34 because of the need for higher performance, i'm planning to make use of the amazon cloud services for calculations of hashes and so on May 03 08:41:10 btw typos mach ich grade raus ;) May 03 08:42:09 ah ok May 03 08:42:47 oki May 03 09:02:58 Hey anyone can tell me which wlan chipset is in the Palm Pre? May 03 10:34:07 heyho May 03 10:36:48 hi May 03 10:37:02 ice geht nicht auf garantie :( also hoffen auf pdc May 03 10:44:14 mpingu das ist natürlich schlecht... May 03 10:44:26 dann drück ich mal die daumen zwecks dev device May 03 10:44:32 aber wie gesagt, das kann dauern May 03 10:44:39 bei mir ~1 Monat May 03 10:44:50 jo oki aber mal sehen wie schnell kam denn die antwort mail May 03 10:45:00 bis antwort 1 monat oder bis device da war 1 monat May 03 10:45:19 mhhh ich glaube die antwort hatte ich binnen einer woche May 03 10:45:34 noch ein wenig hin und her wegen adresse etc May 03 10:45:41 oki May 03 10:45:49 aber bis ich den pre2 in den händen hielt wars dann noch ein monat May 03 10:45:57 oki May 03 10:46:05 und wie isser May 03 10:46:09 waren allerdings zwischendurch auch lieferengpässe, etc. May 03 10:46:20 wie der pre immer hätte sein sollen^^ May 03 10:46:38 schön schnell, liegt gut in der hand... toll =) May 03 10:46:54 hab ich oft gehört pre2 ist wie der pre hätte sein sollen May 03 10:47:26 naja beim normalen pre wars eben lästig May 03 10:47:31 jo May 03 10:47:42 der wurde nach einer weile so lahm, immer wieder TMCs usw... May 03 10:47:54 der plus war schon besser aber immernoch lahm May 03 10:47:58 TMC? May 03 10:48:05 too many cards error May 03 10:48:09 ah oki May 03 10:48:38 hab aber meinen pre noch =D May 03 10:48:52 naja meiner is leider tot:( May 03 10:49:45 hast du mal den doctor drüber geschickt? May 03 10:50:01 hmm ne noch nich muss ich nachher zuhause mal machen May 03 10:50:07 ich schätze zwar du hast den Digitizer kaputt gemacht aber nen Versuch wäre es vllt wert May 03 10:50:12 achso oki May 03 10:50:20 oki mal probieren May 03 10:50:27 bild hattest ja gesehen oder? May 03 10:50:33 jop May 03 10:50:39 oki May 03 10:51:41 meinen alten Pre holt morgen der DHL Mann und schafft ihn zu Palm nach UK May 03 10:51:58 hrhr meiner war auch schon mal da May 03 10:52:04 kopfhöhrer buchse kaputt May 03 10:52:08 daher auf dauer "mute" May 03 10:52:16 ^^ bei mir ists der touchscreen May 03 10:52:25 der berührt sich selbst May 03 10:52:29 achso auch doof May 03 10:52:33 meinen kann ich nicht mehr berühren *g* May 03 10:52:38 ;) May 03 10:53:52 aber ist lustig wenn sich programme selber öffnen, leute angerufen werden, icons sich verschieben etc. May 03 10:54:01 auch cool May 03 10:54:03 hat doch was May 03 10:54:34 joa May 03 10:57:01 hello May 03 11:01:36 bye :) May 03 11:13:55 xD May 03 11:14:35 swisstomcat, was genau machst du jetzt eigentlich bei HP? May 03 11:18:17 arbeiten :) May 03 11:18:30 webOS Developer Relations May 03 11:18:41 d.h Entwickler-Unterstützung May 03 11:18:49 an Konferenzen sprechen May 03 11:19:06 Support auf Twitter,IRC,Forum,... May 03 11:19:24 Dokumentation/Beispiele/Code schreiben May 03 11:19:37 usw. May 03 11:23:08 cool =) May 03 11:23:16 braucht ihr noch Zuwachs?^^ May 03 11:31:47 ich glaube schon May 03 11:32:00 oh da muss ich mich mal bewerben May 03 11:32:23 was anderes, ich versuche gerade meinen developer account zu upgraden damit ich meine apps einstellen kann May 03 11:32:33 und bin etwas überfordert mit den formularen^^ May 03 11:35:46 wo genau? May 03 11:36:10 wenn es um die steuerinformationen geht May 03 11:36:23 mit diesem W-8BEN Formular usw May 03 11:36:50 hmm. das ist in deutschland anders als in der schweiz May 03 11:37:00 =/ schade May 03 11:37:05 ich muss jetzt nur erstmal los, nächste vorlesung ;) May 03 11:37:05 am besten fragst du deutsche entwickler z.b metaview May 03 11:37:10 @metaview May 03 11:37:15 oder @rretisem May 03 11:37:18 ok da schreib ich ihn dann mal an May 03 11:37:26 die können dir sicher auskunft geben May 03 11:37:35 mal sehen, vllt weiß auch hape da bescheid, danke dir =) May 03 11:37:43 bitte May 03 11:37:51 bis später May 03 11:39:47 so wieder da war mittag essen May 03 13:23:07 hi there, sombody out here? May 03 13:44:26 no May 03 15:10:11 anybody have a solution to the problem: every time i put my phone on a touchstone (any touchstone) it charges on / off /on /off / on /off /on /off etc until the battery is dead May 03 15:10:48 try a different touchstone? May 03 15:10:53 no difference May 03 15:11:00 strange May 03 15:11:00 same with touchstone cover May 03 15:11:04 PatrickC_Pre2: where is that patch portal screenshot May 03 15:11:46 halfhalo: uploading now May 03 15:12:02 only happens at work, too May 03 15:12:10 same touchstone / charger / back cover @ home works fine May 03 15:12:20 power supply? May 03 15:12:27 or cable May 03 15:12:42 why would the PS & cable work at one location and not at another May 03 15:12:43 haha i probably have the oldest functioning webos device in this room May 03 15:12:56 enen: how old? May 03 15:13:01 i have an original gen1 sprint pre bought the week it came out May 03 15:13:05 * joem_work does too May 03 15:13:17 my poor phone is so battered May 03 15:13:22 joem_work: very strange May 03 15:13:23 it has no power button May 03 15:13:35 swisstomcat: yeah, thats what i thought May 03 15:13:35 the front button is completely worn off basically May 03 15:13:38 scratched etc May 03 15:13:41 maybe something with the mains line here @ work ? May 03 15:13:45 halfhalo: http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee477/patrickc14/webos-internals-patches-bug.png May 03 15:13:46 yet the slide action still works 100% perfect May 03 15:13:49 has extra noise on the ac line or something ? May 03 15:14:25 that is the most useless error EVER May 03 15:14:34 that's what it told me May 03 15:15:06 thats just php being ridiculous, not even an error. May 03 15:15:12 ok May 03 15:15:15 just wonderin May 03 15:15:37 except the second part, why is it echoing sql... stupid pp. should die in a fire May 03 15:17:49 so, it was useful? May 03 15:19:12 meh. Depends May 03 15:27:28 yay a php party May 03 15:28:07 * Loudergood just <3s the iis/php server at work May 03 15:28:23 * halfhalo stabs Loudergood May 03 15:28:42 and by <3 I mean I hate the damned thing with a passion May 03 15:28:55 if I could replace it with a linux box I would in a heartbeat May 03 15:30:39 hmm.. just type is patched... now people want Universal Search on 1.4.5 May 03 15:30:53 * PatrickC_Pre2 mutters "why don't you upgrade to 2.1???" May 03 15:31:43 PatrickC_Pre2: 90% of the problems in the world are caused by people with too little self confidence, the other 10% by people with too much May 03 15:32:02 huh? lol May 03 15:32:06 add on another 50% by vb May 03 15:32:29 anyone that uses vb falls in the first category ;) May 03 15:32:41 BAZING May 03 15:32:58 well..anyone that uses it by choice May 03 15:33:08 anyone here make universal search patches before? May 03 15:33:25 * PatrickC_Pre2 is wondering what "vb" is... May 03 15:33:54 * halfhalo cries a little bit on the inside May 03 15:34:11 for joy? May 03 15:34:46 and are you talking vb.net or....I don't really want to go there.. May 03 15:34:46 ok.. so, my understanding is "vb==badddddddd" May 03 15:36:29 * Loudergood puts PatrickC_Pre2 in a goto loop May 03 15:38:09 hey! I don't know C++ yet :P May 03 15:38:13 vb.net isn't terrible May 03 15:38:29 simply because it can be automatically converted to c# May 03 15:39:44 oh I agree May 03 15:40:16 it's almost like a layer on C# to make the transition easier for all the vbnauts out there May 03 15:43:51 anyone here May 03 15:44:03 nobody but us chickens May 03 15:44:16 quick question May 03 15:44:31 ok ask May 03 15:44:48 how do I put my phone in developer mode? May 03 15:45:17 webos20090606 May 03 15:47:06 what does that mean? May 03 15:47:47 type that into your phone May 03 15:48:25 thanks May 03 15:58:06 hrmm... do I doctor back to 1.4.5 before I take my pre in? May 03 15:58:30 yes May 03 15:58:40 ok May 03 16:30:55 its a good thing I went into the "Backup" app May 03 16:31:03 it wasn't auto-backup'ing May 03 17:20:01 hola May 03 17:20:12 'elo May 03 17:20:21 had some (quick?) frankenpre'in q's.. is this better for #webos or here? May 03 17:20:32 here May 03 17:21:06 did vzw get 1.4.5.1 yesterday? May 03 17:21:11 So 2 situations. Scenario 1: Frankenpre Sprint Pre <->GSM Pre 2. Metadoctor script takes care of everything, right? May 03 17:21:42 I believe it does (I haven't made a frankenpre2 yet) May 03 17:22:07 man.. Novacomd installer stalled.... May 03 17:30:29 hrmm... will novacomd install now? May 03 17:36:48 so no frankenpre experts in the house? May 03 17:37:46 I've sort of done it May 03 17:38:07 "sort of"? May 03 17:38:11 gsm pre2 made into a verizon one May 03 17:38:20 not the exact same situation as yours May 03 17:38:22 vz has 1.4.5.1? i better redoctor from 2.1 to get that!! :) May 03 17:38:51 lol, I just want to know what 1.4.5.1 does May 03 17:38:51 Loudergood: well that's similar May 03 17:39:24 sine: isn't there a changelog? May 03 17:40:32 man people have been talking about 1.4.5.1 for almost a year! May 03 17:40:50 well, I couldn't install it yesterday May 03 17:43:33 Loudergood: how easy was your frankenpre'in? May 03 17:43:44 not hard May 03 17:43:50 and did you end up with a GSM Pre+ that worked at the end May 03 17:43:55 just pay very close attention to the wiki May 03 17:44:07 I haven't had time to try that part actually May 03 17:44:21 and I don't have a working sim card now anyway May 03 17:46:39 pay very close attention to the volume button and the keyboard tabs May 03 17:46:47 the first one is what people like to break May 03 17:47:41 why do people like to break things? sadists.. ;^) May 03 17:50:10 cause its fun :) May 03 17:51:10 * NuttyBunny grumbles... stupid volume button... May 03 17:54:48 when making a 2.1 meta-doctor using the script, can I still edit the makefile to do the stuff I want it to? May 03 17:55:05 PatrickC_Pre2: yes! that's the fun part :) May 03 17:55:14 sweet!! May 03 17:55:15 oh that reminds me that i have to do that for the vz pre2 May 03 17:55:40 install preware w/ testing feeds, and INCREASE_VAR_SIZE.. damn rod tasked me to change that, haven't yet. arg.. May 03 17:55:57 increase_var_size does what? May 03 17:57:18 PatrickC_Pre2: increases the size of /var partition, for apps, email, etc. I think opt is included in that is why i do it.. May 03 17:57:34 I mean, I know Palm thinks "64 mb ought to be enough for anyone," but i can barely fit my core apps in that! May 03 17:58:08 but, aren't apps stored in /media/cryptofs/ ? May 03 17:58:25 and I love the "START OF AREA FOR ROD'S USE ONLY" hehe May 03 17:58:55 PatrickC_Pre2: linux apps May 03 17:59:16 ah ok May 03 17:59:45 which, frankly, are the only things worth installing on your pre. May 03 17:59:48 (i kid) May 03 18:00:05 now, time to let the terminal work its magic :) May 03 18:00:18 I haven't installed any linux apps afaik May 03 18:01:36 PatrickC_Pre2: then clearly your pre is useless May 03 18:01:54 why? lol May 03 18:01:57 heh May 03 18:02:08 * PatrickC_Pre2 is new to linux :) May 03 18:02:32 i have a shit ton of linux apps installed on my pre.. unison is the one i think most people would really appreciate May 03 18:02:55 man, stupid Palm logo :'( May 03 18:02:57 but bash and many others are invaluable.. (hmm, it's possible bash, vim, etc, install in /media but i don't think so) May 03 18:03:03 PatrickC_Pre2: be gone with you!! May 03 18:03:05 :) May 03 18:03:15 well, its going in for service today May 03 18:03:20 s/Palm/HP/ May 03 18:03:36 no, its the Palm logo.. 1.4.5 May 03 18:03:55 and I'm re-building my meta-doctor too May 03 18:04:03 i was meaning that's the stupid logo :) May 03 18:04:12 oh lol May 03 18:06:17 unpatched top-bar looks horrid!! May 03 18:06:42 it looks worse if the device can't talk to the modem :'( May 03 18:08:31 good May 03 18:08:40 the doctor didn't fix the problem :) May 03 18:08:56 PatrickC_Pre2: i think only Dre can help you May 03 18:09:06 haha May 03 18:09:52 2.2 is available for my sprint Pre!!!! May 03 18:09:54 * PatrickC_Pre2 ducks May 03 18:10:24 * ajay doesn't understand the joke May 03 18:10:48 someone on the forums said that Sprint was releasing 2.2 on May 2 May 03 18:11:11 but they didnt May 03 18:11:17 PatrickC_Pre2: Yeah, i guess it's funny? :) May 03 18:18:07 http://twitter.com/cesarneg/status/65479883744219136 May 03 18:45:53 * PatrickC_Pre2 is charging his pre+ May 03 18:46:00 will see if 1.4.5.1 is still available May 03 18:46:10 sounds like its not from P|C forums May 03 18:46:27 like what's not from P|C forums? May 03 18:46:38 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2952436#post2952436 May 03 18:46:56 the 1.4.5.1.. May 03 19:00:57 1.4.5.1 is unpacking May 03 19:02:00 hello!!! :D May 03 19:02:05 hay May 03 19:02:22 Patrick_Pre2!!!!! May 03 19:02:56 yep :) May 03 19:03:01 what's up? May 03 19:03:12 finally got Preware to work, dloaded and installed Save/Restore May 03 19:03:25 cool May 03 19:03:26 and bought 2 replacement batteries... May 03 19:03:31 lol May 03 19:04:01 strangely enough, my headset started work shortly after swapping the battery... lol May 03 19:04:33 so no need to get a replacement except for cosmetic purposes... May 03 19:05:29 as soon as i move to webos 2.1 my phone will truly look like a FRANKENpre... May 03 19:05:46 new problem though... May 03 19:06:32 what? May 03 19:06:35 and 2.1 is easy May 03 19:07:55 Using WebOS QI, I go to Tools>Tweaks (while my phone is plugged in and charging only) May 03 19:08:14 and i get 4 error windows... May 03 19:08:27 one after the other... May 03 19:08:36 what do you need qi for? May 03 19:08:46 1) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-pre-vzw May 03 19:08:55 Please contact the feed owner to get them to fix the error. May 03 19:09:03 2) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-pre May 03 19:09:11 3) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-vzw May 03 19:09:25 4) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework May 03 19:09:53 Sprint WebOS 1.4.5 May 03 19:10:24 WebOS QuickInstall 3.14 May 03 19:10:36 advanced-system I believe are 2.x only May 03 19:10:39 could the QI ver. be the issue? May 03 19:10:51 no May 03 19:10:54 not usually May 03 19:11:11 yea, but i dont have any patches installed as of right now... lol May 03 19:12:15 unless i accidentally tried to install them and it created directories for a webos ver. it doesnt support... assuming that patch is 2.x only... May 03 19:12:28 which i doubt.. i was able to use it... lol May 03 19:12:53 why don't you just upgrade to 2.x? May 03 19:13:04 lazyness... hjahahahahaha May 03 19:13:15 :D May 03 19:13:25 lol May 03 19:13:30 its like 4 cmd's :) May 03 19:14:01 i did manage to install ubuntu 10.10 on my win vista laptop... May 03 19:14:12 dual-boot/vbox? May 03 19:14:34 something is wrong with their d/load, install/mount procedure... May 03 19:14:48 dual-boot... May 03 19:14:55 and 11.04 is the newest stable release May 03 19:15:06 10.10 is not outdated :) (afaik) May 03 19:15:54 yea, but i have to confirm 11.04 is compatible wit my broadcom wireless adapter... otherwise no internet... lol May 03 19:16:18 that was fun trying to figure that out... May 03 19:16:59 good thing i had installed wIRC in my phone... contact #ubuntu members and get that fixed... May 03 19:17:31 and freeTether... May 03 19:17:37 lol May 03 19:18:06 compat-wireless is a very nice thing to have installed May 03 19:18:06 wuts with vbox??? May 03 19:18:24 is that like an EMU??? May 03 19:18:39 virtual box :) May 03 19:18:40 compat-wireless??? May 03 19:19:10 i know that... lol May 03 19:19:26 actually it looks like it's packaged as linux-backports-modules-wireless May 03 19:19:43 brb May 03 19:19:46 usb mode time :) May 03 19:19:52 i meant is it an actual program you can run inside windows and its emulating ubuntu-linux??? May 03 19:20:03 yep May 03 19:20:08 virtual box is a host May 03 19:20:09 lol May 03 19:20:11 k May 03 19:20:38 it creates virtual machines, which you can configure to have pretty much whatever hardware setting you want May 03 19:21:09 hmmmm..... May 03 19:21:37 any good examples of uses or purposes?? links? videos??? May 03 19:21:44 unfortunately only version 3 works with the webos sdk right now May 03 19:21:56 newbie, but VERY insterested.. lol May 03 19:22:21 i meant me... newbie, but very interested... lol May 03 19:23:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8kSqyBs-QA&feature=related May 03 19:24:50 also you can go here and search for broadcom to see if there are any bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu May 03 19:27:05 thanks!!! May 03 19:28:02 I came in here looking for repair on my shoes and I come out with a snazzy tailored suit... lol :D May 03 19:28:22 if only I was getting paid ;) May 03 19:29:29 $$$$$ ---->> Loudergood May 03 19:29:37 lol May 03 19:29:47 i still need my shoes to be repaired... lol May 03 19:30:14 just pass the help along, I learn tons of stuff here, so it's the least I can do May 03 19:30:39 true, true... May 03 19:31:12 i wanna do the same, but im only ever on here, while im at work and boss is out of the office... lol May 03 19:31:26 #SadButTrue May 03 19:33:15 any idea on my original dilema??? May 03 19:33:38 [12:07] 1) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-pre-vzw May 03 19:34:18 [12:08] 2) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-pre May 03 19:34:23 [12:08] 3) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework-vzw May 03 19:34:29 [12:08] 4) Error reading source JSON of org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-prefs-framework May 03 19:34:34 ??? May 03 19:36:15 I'm wondering what you're trying to install with wosqi that you can't install with preware? May 03 19:37:52 charging my phone with the (stupid) short cable... so I cant work and use preware at the same time... lol May 03 19:39:16 plus i like using the EPR in WOSQI once in a blue moon... May 03 19:39:20 like spring cleaning... lol May 03 19:39:36 that's a preware app too ;) May 03 19:39:38 wosqi doesn't have tweaks support, does it? May 03 19:39:57 unless there is one in preware that i couldnt find... O_o ?? May 03 19:40:17 really??? where??? May 03 19:40:42 ***looking underneath the carpet*** May 03 19:41:58 eitherway, i currently dont have any patches installed and am still getting that error msg.. May 03 19:42:53 it may be a harmless error, but that harmless error is taunting me that i can't fix it or get rid of it... lol May 03 19:46:51 @halfhalo: idk.. but I still have qosqi 3.14 which has the "Tweaks" window from the drop-down menu... May 03 19:48:17 by tweaks I am referring to a new wosi app which, in conjunction with compatible patches, allows for much more powerful customizations. those patches you are trying to install are tweaks compatible May 03 19:50:03 ahhh... gotcha... heard about tweaks but i couldnt find it... May 03 19:50:29 i think this was when i had a "stuffed" preware install... May 03 21:00:57 Hi there, is there a how to on how to unlock your palm cdma(verizon) to another network? May 03 21:06:46 Hey May 03 21:07:39 renancoelho: not that I'm aware of May 03 21:07:46 good morning mpingu May 03 21:08:01 good night should it be i am in germany and its almost midnight May 03 21:09:04 then it will be morning ;) May 03 21:09:15 hmm.. I spoke here the other day and someone said they put their palm plus on another network here in florida... May 03 21:09:23 LOL May 03 21:09:25 but I have no clue on how to do that.. May 03 21:09:51 i thought you had to buy an unlocked phone to be able to do that... May 03 21:10:09 anyone of you fit with Wlan drivers on palm pre? May 03 21:13:08 I believe the free tether devs had to do something with that May 03 21:16:03 did they which particular network they went to?? May 03 21:23:26 t3k_no: sorry, that was meant for mpingu May 03 21:24:37 Loudergood: huh??? mine was meant for renancoelho ... May 03 21:24:51 oh...oops May 03 21:25:12 what network are you trying to switch to? May 03 21:27:18 me??? none... looks like he is trying to go palm pre plus verizon to another CDMA in FL... May 03 21:28:23 no him May 03 21:28:36 oh he's gone May 03 21:28:38 sorry May 03 21:28:58 this is what happens when the gf distracts me mid conversation May 03 21:39:59 lol... May 03 21:40:10 same here with the boss... May 03 21:41:34 on the good side, like 3 orders came in without me doing anything except dload VirtualBox and check my twitter... lol May 03 21:42:24 so it looks like ive been busting my a$$ for the past 7 hrs... lol May 03 21:50:36 ... and back to work now... lol May 03 23:53:43 hello my fellow webos ers May 04 00:04:39 hello May 04 00:29:22 * bnceo slaps NuttyBunny May 04 00:29:25 sup amigo May 04 00:33:23 and he's back May 04 00:44:11 huh? why did it disconnect me? hehehe May 04 00:46:17 L8R PPL... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 04 02:59:58 2011