**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 04 02:59:58 2011
May 04 03:36:08 <oc80z> hi quick question
May 04 03:36:17 <oc80z> when the shit is sprint going to get me a new phone.
May 04 03:36:47 <oc80z> i see webos 3 stuff...
May 04 03:36:51 <oc80z> wtfrig?
May 04 03:38:17 <SineOt> webos 3 stuff?
May 04 03:39:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> yeah, what webos 3 stuf?
May 04 03:40:10 <halfhalo> touchpad is webos3
May 04 03:42:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> but its not a phone :)
May 04 03:46:48 <oc80z> ...
May 04 03:47:12 <oc80z> my point.
May 04 03:47:20 <oc80z> and if it cant skype, its a phone.
May 04 03:47:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> we /might/ get the Pre3
May 04 03:47:35 <PatrickC_Pre2> but don't get ur hopes up
May 04 03:47:44 <oc80z> sprint /might/ have to die.
May 04 03:47:45 <oc80z> ;]
May 04 03:47:58 <oc80z> i'm still 1.4.5.x
May 04 03:48:05 <PatrickC_Pre2> why??
May 04 03:48:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> and .x?
May 04 03:48:23 <oc80z> whatever it is 1.4.5
May 04 03:48:55 <oc80z> why should i go to 2.0
May 04 03:48:59 <PatrickC_Pre2> its 1.4.5 and y not upgrade?
May 04 03:49:01 <PatrickC_Pre2> its easy
May 04 03:49:24 <oc80z> whats with the disclaimers about the profile
May 04 03:49:34 <oc80z> it makes your profile a 2.0 only profile
May 04 03:49:49 <PatrickC_Pre2> I went from 2.1 to 1.4.5 on a profile
May 04 03:49:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> its easy
May 04 03:49:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> just erase backup data
May 04 03:50:34 <PatrickC_Pre2> all of your apps come back, just no accounts/memos/calendar/etc.
May 04 03:50:47 <oc80z> well, the use on the pre is pretty manged, i have to put about a pound or two of force on it at a certian again to get a charge to go through it, let alone mount it.
May 04 03:50:57 <oc80z> mangled*
May 04 03:51:18 <PatrickC_Pre2> touchstone for charging, idk for USB
May 04 03:51:18 <oc80z> hrm dunno.
May 04 03:51:30 <oc80z> sftp.
May 04 03:51:42 <oc80z> sshfs is great, too.
May 04 03:51:44 <PatrickC_Pre2> but, can you run the doctor with that?
May 04 03:52:00 <oc80z> i could if i put a couple of books on the usbwire/male wire
May 04 03:52:07 <oc80z> then hang it from the side of a desk.
May 04 03:52:08 <oc80z> heh.
May 04 03:52:28 * PatrickC_Pre2 broke his pre+. . .  will fix tomorrow :)
May 04 03:52:47 <oc80z> yea
May 04 03:52:59 <oc80z> its great having a phone you will follow, not a carrier.
May 04 03:53:18 <oc80z> but /me sketched out about at&t's data caps and, overall network availability..
May 04 03:53:23 <oc80z> fucking worst in the nation.
May 04 03:53:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> I can run a webOS phone on *any* carrier
May 04 03:53:58 <oc80z> hspa+ vs. lte?
May 04 03:54:06 <oc80z> vs. "4g"
May 04 03:54:11 <oc80z> (wimax)
May 04 03:54:17 <PatrickC_Pre2> HSPA+ isn't 4G
May 04 03:54:25 <oc80z> tell sales that.
May 04 03:54:31 <oc80z> and clearwire.
May 04 03:54:34 <PatrickC_Pre2> LTE is.. I believe
May 04 03:54:48 <PatrickC_Pre2> WiMax is, afaik
May 04 03:54:49 <oc80z> yea
May 04 03:54:58 <oc80z> there are new dual channel modules coming out
May 04 03:55:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> time to sign into accounts...
May 04 03:55:13 <oc80z> they are marketing them as , dual carrier.
May 04 03:55:18 <oc80z> so watch out for that lingo too.
May 04 03:55:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> dual-carrier :)
May 04 03:55:34 <PatrickC_Pre2> I have a UMTS, does that count :D
May 04 03:55:45 <oc80z> evdo-b stuff?
May 04 03:55:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> GSM
May 04 03:56:01 <oc80z> yea
May 04 03:56:09 <oc80z> dont know
May 04 03:56:12 <PatrickC_Pre2> its an unlocked Pre2
May 04 03:56:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> UMTS GSM phone
May 04 03:56:49 <oc80z> good to have
May 04 03:57:02 <oc80z> not i, still the same orig pre.
May 04 03:57:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> oh, and back to the profile things.. I have a 1.4.5 profile, and a 2.x profile
May 04 03:57:07 <PatrickC_Pre2> and yeah it is
May 04 03:57:15 <PatrickC_Pre2> well, I can't use the pre2
May 04 03:57:57 <oc80z> grr hurry up and sync
May 04 03:58:07 <oc80z> shit, may be i should do up the webos 2 then...
May 04 03:58:19 <oc80z> ....dunno.
May 04 03:58:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> what desktop OS?
May 04 03:58:43 <oc80z> i have the win7 64bit here.
May 04 03:59:00 <PatrickC_Pre2> you will either need one of two things, vbox or dual-boot
May 04 03:59:07 <oc80z> oh
May 04 03:59:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> linux/osx is required now
May 04 03:59:11 <oc80z> i run linux
May 04 03:59:14 <oc80z> GOOD.
May 04 03:59:28 <PatrickC_Pre2> its like 4-5 cmds iirc
May 04 03:59:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> wait, no 1 cmd
May 04 03:59:43 <oc80z> <g>
May 04 03:59:44 <PatrickC_Pre2> the script does it all now :)
May 04 04:00:04 <oc80z> i'll have to check that out
May 04 04:00:13 <oc80z> it modifies the java jar?
May 04 04:00:15 <oc80z> docjar*
May 04 04:00:22 <PatrickC_Pre2> yeah
May 04 04:00:35 <oc80z> i was helping someone with that, to jump on to a pay-asyou-go network
May 04 04:00:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> and the only time you have to plugin your pre, is to run the doctor
May 04 04:00:45 <oc80z> and he said theres some md5sums .. like heh.
May 04 04:00:57 <oc80z> oh werd. ill have to do that tomorrow.
May 04 04:01:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> you don't have to deal with that for a 2.x upgrade
May 04 04:01:07 <oc80z> ..whats the best thing about the 2.x os?
May 04 04:01:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> unless you are frankenpre'ing
May 04 04:01:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> everything
May 04 04:01:18 <oc80z> sold!
May 04 04:01:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> Just Type, Exhibition Mode, SW Manager, etc
May 04 04:01:35 <PatrickC_Pre2> Text backups!!!!
May 04 04:01:37 <oc80z> hmmmmph.
May 04 04:01:50 <PatrickC_Pre2> all your text msgs are backed up now!! :D
May 04 04:02:03 <PatrickC_Pre2> new app catalog, nDrive
May 04 04:02:11 <PatrickC_Pre2> promo codes, the list goes on
May 04 04:02:17 <oc80z> i have a vmware with dedicated raid-0 running ubuntu 10.10 on this machine
May 04 04:02:37 <oc80z> nDrive?
May 04 04:02:41 <PatrickC_Pre2> I use vbox, but I guess vmware will work
May 04 04:02:45 <oc80z> ok
May 04 04:02:47 <PatrickC_Pre2> http://ndrive.com
May 04 04:03:10 <oc80z> :-O
May 04 04:03:21 <oc80z> any UbuntuOne stuff get brought over?
May 04 04:03:38 <oc80z> i want to get into the slug2 buildsystem
May 04 04:03:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> idk
May 04 04:04:15 <oc80z> hmm
May 04 04:04:20 <oc80z> ill have to work on that later
May 04 04:04:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> I love 2.1
May 04 04:06:34 <oc80z> you run ubuntu?
May 04 04:06:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> in a vbox
May 04 04:08:38 <oc80z> cheers then. ;]
May 04 04:08:53 <oc80z> aight homey.
May 04 04:09:01 * oc80z pass the frig out ;(
May 04 04:10:26 <PatrickC_Pre2> wow... the pre is stupidly slow stock :/
May 04 04:12:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> hey NuttyBunny :)
May 04 04:13:10 <NuttyBunny> hey
May 04 04:13:45 <PatrickC_Pre2> I almost thought my doctor borked my pre :/
May 04 04:13:49 <PatrickC_Pre2> but it didn't :)
May 04 04:25:00 <NuttyBunny> phew... I had the same feeling with this guy's android kernel for the Pre 2, it left my Pre2 just as the Plus :)
May 04 04:25:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> hmm.. this guy sounds a little familiar :)
May 04 04:28:54 <PatrickC_Pre2> my app catalog is downloading :D
May 04 04:29:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> making it impossible to download any new apps lol
May 04 04:32:48 * PatrickC_Pre2 is off to bed
May 04 04:32:50 <PatrickC_Pre2> night all
May 04 04:43:38 <SineOt> Huh. F14 on Pre2: no wifi?
May 04 05:53:20 <mpingu> hi
May 04 07:31:54 <pippo> hi, i'm interested in  Linphone alpha test, can anyone help me?
May 04 07:56:36 <swisstomcat> morning
May 04 07:57:11 <Scapeccio> hi, i'm interested in linphone alpha test. i'm from Italy and i' using palm pre webos 1. can anyone help me?
May 04 07:57:24 <swisstomcat> hi scapeccio
May 04 07:57:30 <swisstomcat> i'd ask rwhitby
May 04 08:01:17 <Scapeccio> sorry, buongiorno a tutti (o buonanotte)
May 04 08:11:08 <swisstomcat> buongiorno :)
May 04 08:47:43 <rwhitby> Scapeccio: what device and sip provider?
May 04 08:52:16 <Scapeccio> device palm pre 1 provider euteliavoip
May 04 08:59:52 <mpingu> hey rwhitby  you l8r can help me with some wifi questions for palm pre
May 04 09:00:12 <rwhitby> depends on the questions
May 04 13:32:05 * PatrickC_Pre2 throws pre at wall
May 04 13:32:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> work messaging....
May 04 16:36:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> we need a "Resume All Downloads" button in the SW manager
May 04 16:53:31 <ice8lue> hey guys
May 04 16:55:04 <PatrickC_Pre2> hey ice8lue
May 04 16:56:07 <ice8lue> hey PatrickC_Pre2
May 04 16:56:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> I need to fix my pre+ today..
May 04 16:58:46 <ice8lue> what did u do?
May 04 16:59:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> killed it.. I tried to put SHR on it, and it won't boot now
May 04 16:59:55 <ice8lue> what is shr?
May 04 17:00:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> a mobile distro
May 04 17:00:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> I was trying to dual-boot i
May 04 17:00:30 <PatrickC_Pre2> it*
May 04 17:02:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> I had my pre- dual-booting Android, but had to doctor it
May 04 17:02:21 <ice8lue> hmm well
May 04 17:02:36 <ice8lue> i love my webos^^ dont need another os ;)
May 04 17:02:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> I had to doctor as I was bringing it to sprint
May 04 17:02:54 <PatrickC_Pre2> I love webOS too :)
May 04 17:02:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> but need android
May 04 17:03:35 <ice8lue> why?
May 04 17:03:55 <PatrickC_Pre2> do develop with
May 04 17:06:41 <ice8lue> hm
May 04 17:06:57 <ice8lue> and now bootie is dead huh?
May 04 17:07:13 <PatrickC_Pre2> well, I wasn't dual-booting the plus yet
May 04 17:07:28 <PatrickC_Pre2> then I tried to put SHR on it, (without android on it)
May 04 17:07:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> and bootr/bootie died
May 04 17:08:06 <ice8lue> =/
May 04 17:08:12 <PatrickC_Pre2> yeah
May 04 17:08:16 <ice8lue> restoring bootie is not the easiest thing to do
May 04 17:08:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm gonna fix it without a doctor though :)
May 04 17:08:32 <PatrickC_Pre2> novacom boot mem:// filetouImage
May 04 17:08:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> iirc
May 04 17:24:55 <PatrickC_Pre2> I hate sprint!
May 04 18:02:53 * NuttyBunny has earned the power of bootie recovery
May 04 18:03:21 <halfhalo> win
May 04 18:07:13 <PatrickC_Pre2> how do I turn my phone on if my power button is broke?
May 04 18:07:32 <SineOt> you don't! *evil laugh*
May 04 18:07:50 <PatrickC_Pre2> I hate sprint
May 04 18:08:13 <SineOt> That's probably one of the things the Pixi got way, way right.
May 04 18:08:23 <SineOt> The power button is entirely exposed when you remove the back casing.
May 04 18:25:54 <NuttyBunny> SineOt: You're wrong!
May 04 18:26:18 <NuttyBunny> You can power on your Pre/PrePlus/Pixi/Pre2 by plugging in a power cable into it :D
May 04 18:26:31 <SineOt> Oh, on!
May 04 18:26:34 <SineOt> I thought he said off.
May 04 18:26:54 <NuttyBunny> ah, you pull the battery ;)
May 04 18:27:09 <SineOt> Tsk tsk
May 04 18:27:26 <SineOt> how goes, NuttyBunny?
May 04 18:27:36 <NuttyBunny> or, as PatrickC_Pre2 does, you throw the Pre to the wall
May 04 18:27:49 <SineOt> ;_;
May 04 18:28:01 <NuttyBunny> SineOt: Working today... "real" work :(
May 04 18:29:29 <SineOt> Awww.
May 04 18:29:44 <SineOt> At least "real" work tends to come with "real" money
May 04 18:31:24 <halfhalo> As opposed to monopoly money, which is only good in canadia
May 04 18:32:44 <NuttyBunny> Yep... and "real" money is needed to pay the bills :S
May 04 18:33:02 <SineOt> You sure they're "real" bills and not "fake" bills? :o
May 04 18:34:31 <NuttyBunny> ow.. my gf got a fake one the other day :(   at least it was a low value one
May 04 18:35:02 <SineOt> fake as in, fake cash?
May 04 18:35:08 <SineOt> how'd they even catch that?
May 04 18:35:12 * halfhalo whistles
May 04 18:36:55 <SineOt> most places around here won't even check if it's counterfitted unless it's like, a hundred
May 04 18:36:59 <SineOt> sometimes 50s
May 04 18:38:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> NuttyBunny: hey! I only did that once! :D
May 04 18:38:49 <NuttyBunny> PatrickC_Pre2: But didn't it turn off?? ;)
May 04 18:38:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol
May 04 18:39:15 <NuttyBunny> SineOt: A Fake $50 pesos bill, (about $4.50USD)
May 04 18:39:16 <PatrickC_Pre2> Sprint replaced my power button yesterday, and now the power button is broke :/
May 04 18:39:48 * NuttyBunny wants so see the Sprint people's face when PatrickC_Pre2 returns with his Pre :D
May 04 18:39:53 <SineOt> how did anyone catch it as being fake? way curious
May 04 18:40:07 <SineOt> I've never seen anyone catch a fake 5 unless it was WAY obvious
May 04 18:40:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> NuttyBunny: hahahaha I wish I could take a picture :D
May 04 19:50:05 <Mousey> say uh
May 04 19:50:09 <Mousey> oh, nm
May 04 20:38:08 <yozgrahame> hey there - anyone know the current status of Linphone?
May 04 20:38:26 <yozgrahame> (precentral thread has been pretty quiet the last month)
May 04 23:41:55 <rwhitby> yozgrahame: it's open source, current status is visible to all in the source repo.
May 04 23:43:13 <yozgrahame> rwhitby: thanks for the response! Any more work on it in the past month?
May 04 23:43:24 * yozgrahame needs to actually go find the source repo...
May 04 23:43:34 <rwhitby> http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary
May 04 23:59:10 <yozgrahame> rwhitby: thank you!
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