**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 05 02:59:57 2011
May 05 03:22:25 <oc80z> aye
May 05 03:22:27 <oc80z> time to go to 2
May 05 03:22:36 <bnceo> so
May 05 03:22:41 <bnceo> veer in a week or so
May 05 03:22:49 <oc80z> meh, at&t is at&t.
May 05 03:23:04 <bnceo> Curious on the no contract price
May 05 03:23:30 <SineOt> I'm curious on just what exactly they mean by exclusive
May 05 03:23:43 <bnceo> 6 months at most
May 05 03:23:44 <SineOt> like, "exclusive exclusive" or "this is the only network it works on because Tmo is AWS"
May 05 03:23:57 <bnceo> exclusive on both ends
May 05 03:24:07 <bnceo> first build is with AT&T bands
May 05 03:24:13 <bnceo> they made it such
May 05 03:24:38 <SineOt> well but by that logic with it working with ATT bands, the Pre Plus was an ATT exclusive too
May 05 03:25:07 <bnceo> exclusive means first one to get it and hold it for a while
May 05 03:25:11 <bnceo> this case, AT&T
May 05 03:25:26 <bnceo> You can say the Pre Plus was exclusive to Verizon for a few months
May 05 03:26:06 <SineOt> yeah, but being the only carrier and being contractually the only carrier are two different can of worms
May 05 03:26:16 <PatrickC_Pre2> and the webOS lineup was exclusive for Sprint for a while
May 05 03:26:45 <bnceo> we don't know contract wise cause they won't tell us
May 05 03:26:48 <SineOt> yeah, that was most likely a contractual exclusive
May 05 03:26:52 <bnceo> so we have to assume it's exclusive
May 05 03:26:52 <oc80z>  wow
May 05 03:26:55 <oc80z> i doubt i can do this
May 05 03:27:10 <SineOt> but if it's exclusive only in the sense that ATT is the only GSM carrier in the US that isn't AWS
May 05 03:27:18 <oc80z> heh, whats up pat
May 05 03:27:19 <bnceo> remember tho, even big bad iPhone was exclusive for a while. Only reason AT&T Mobility is alive today is because of it
May 05 03:27:22 <SineOt> then there's nothing ruling out unlocked handsets being sold, etc
May 05 03:27:35 <bnceo> If it's sold in Germany, it has to be unlocked by law
May 05 03:27:41 <bnceo> however, it will be a QWERTZ
May 05 03:27:46 <PatrickC_Pre2> what's up ot80z
May 05 03:28:01 <oc80z> my phone is fucked
May 05 03:28:11 <oc80z> i really think USB is destroyd now
May 05 03:28:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> ooo not good
May 05 03:29:02 <oc80z> its been like 5min
May 05 03:29:13 <oc80z> (unplugged) and its still saying its on the charger
May 05 03:29:34 <oc80z> ah.. there it goes, back to life.. slows to a halt too.
May 05 03:29:35 <SineOt> I think that's a Luna bug though
May 05 03:29:38 <SineOt> my Pixi does it sometimes
May 05 03:30:13 <oc80z> yeah, but do you need to hang the pre off the side of a desk with usb connected to get a charge/connection
May 05 03:30:19 <PatrickC_Pre2> SineOt: you switchin to AT&T?
May 05 03:30:27 <SineOt> no, I put it on a touchstone :U
May 05 03:30:33 <SineOt> PatrickC_Pre2: not any time soon
May 05 03:30:38 <oc80z> i do too.
May 05 03:30:40 <bnceo> thinking of getting the Veer unlocked if possib
May 05 03:30:48 <bnceo> will wait for someone to get that done
May 05 03:30:54 <oc80z> im going to get my pre2 back, i gave it to a friend
May 05 03:31:02 <oc80z> hes not even using it heh.
May 05 03:31:10 <bnceo> booo. why give away a pre2?!?!?!?
May 05 03:31:28 <oc80z> cause he needed a phone?
May 05 03:31:37 <bnceo> noka flip. $5
May 05 03:31:41 <bnceo> nokia*
May 05 03:31:48 <oc80z> hrm
May 05 03:32:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> bbl
May 05 03:32:48 <oc80z> yep.
May 05 11:38:23 <swisstomcat> afternoon
May 05 11:38:43 <mpingu> Hello
May 05 15:04:03 * halfhalo is looking for someone to help him with a node server app by writing a module for him which talks to mediawiki
May 05 17:59:18 <karco> hi
May 05 18:19:59 <dwc-> hi
May 05 18:47:34 <dwc-> anyone know if taking the cwd out of the PATH will break anything
May 05 18:47:42 <dwc-> # echo $PATH
May 05 18:47:42 <dwc-> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin::/opt/bin:/opt/sbin
May 05 18:47:53 <dwc-> # grep PATH /etc/profile
May 05 18:47:53 <dwc-> PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin" PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:
May 05 18:47:57 <dwc-> export PATH PS1 OPIEDIR QPEDIR QTDIR EDITOR TERM DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS
May 05 18:48:01 <dwc-> (see : at end of 2nd line)
May 05 19:31:39 <stbuehler> dwc-: i'd strongly recommend to kill the cwd from your PATH
May 05 21:20:26 <destinal> dwc-: the colon at the end shouldn't mean cwd,  a period (".")  would
May 05 21:22:19 <destinal> dwc-: hmm, scratch that. apparently it does and I was unaware of it (either trailing ":" or ":." does it)
May 05 21:22:36 <destinal> somehow I never noticed that before
May 05 21:24:56 <destinal> null PATH will do it too, hmm
May 06 02:53:47 <NickNick> hey all
May 06 02:54:09 <NickNick> can anyone tell me what permissions /etc/event.d/LunaSysMgr is supposed to have, i just fat fingered a chmod...
May 06 02:58:54 <Loudergood> if I can recall the right way to get the right keys in xterm
May 06 02:59:51 <Loudergood> RW R R
May 06 02:59:56 <NickNick> i think it's -rw-r--r--
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