**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 12 02:59:58 2011 May 12 04:05:21 is there a way to make it so that the screen never wakes for notifications? May 12 04:05:36 * bemjb is digging, but it's awefully hard to search for May 12 04:06:09 (or just a pointer to where in webOS I should look) May 12 04:07:13 preware May 12 04:07:52 preware would be a good place to look May 12 04:09:33 bemjb: I'm sure there's a patch for that May 12 04:11:56 haven't found anything in preware May 12 04:12:12 maybe there was one for 1.x, and there isn't one for 2.x? May 12 04:12:48 yeah May 12 04:12:49 that's it May 12 04:13:06 could be May 12 04:13:09 do you know what the 1.x one was called? May 12 04:13:15 nope May 12 04:14:40 it should still be in the patch section of webos-interals.org May 12 04:16:28 http://ipkg.preware.org I believe is where all patches/apps for webos internals is stored May 12 04:19:06 ^yep May 12 04:22:43 yeah, but it's hard to find something there unless you know the name. May 12 04:24:32 yeah May 12 04:24:53 http://patches.webos-internals.org is another good place to look May 12 04:25:20 night all May 12 04:25:31 bemjb: hope you find it May 12 14:55:18 better late then never: the patches are also stored in a git repo that you can look. in as well. May 12 14:57:45 Hiya peeps... I'm at 35000 Ft on AirTrans over Knowxville on the way to Detroit... May 12 14:58:36 halfhalo: a little late lol May 12 14:58:52 hence the better late then never May 12 15:00:06 hi, is there any site where can i download full games? May 12 15:01:16 anyone here? May 12 15:01:17 Coon: ummmm... the app catalog? May 12 15:01:50 i mean free? May 12 15:01:55 do i have to buy all of them? May 12 15:02:03 not the lite versionsa May 12 15:02:10 Coon: if you mean to pirate games, this is not the place for it. most people here are app developers. May 12 15:02:21 and getting full versions (that usually are pay for) is illegal May 12 15:02:25 we don't like people pirating our stuff May 12 15:02:29 * PatrickC is a dev May 12 15:02:32 ohh. sorry, wrong place :) May 12 15:02:58 yeah, some of us are also vindictive. like me. May 12 15:03:05 and you can get in legal trouble for pirating May 12 15:03:18 :-D not in the country where i am from :-D May 12 15:03:24 anyways May 12 15:03:34 webos need something like sleep cicle May 12 15:03:39 cycle* May 12 15:03:55 what do you mean? May 12 15:04:45 there was an app on iOS, smart alarm clock which could track your sleep and wake you up on the best time. May 12 15:04:57 http://mdlabs.se/sleepcycle/ May 12 15:05:18 could be done easily May 12 15:05:40 i would buy that one :-D May 12 15:06:23 so does webos sdk have accelerometers apis? May 12 15:06:30 yeah May 12 15:06:57 Coon: #webos is a better place to talk about dev'ing :) May 12 15:23:34 anyone here willing to help me on a Preware app issue? May 12 15:24:52 pcwiz84, what issue do you have? May 12 15:25:36 okay. hang on while I get the e-mail that has the error message... May 12 15:25:37 what's up? May 12 15:26:32 ok May 12 15:26:32 here it is: Preware gives error, when I type in a search query: May 12 15:26:32 pkg-list Exception: Type Error: Object false has no method 'to LowerCase' May 12 15:27:04 have any ideas on what it's saying and if it's a bug or something? May 12 15:27:08 update preware and feeds May 12 15:27:32 I did thtat. A few days ago it started doing that May 12 15:27:56 each time I updated since it wouldn't let me see any apps May 12 15:29:41 uninstall/reinstall preware? May 12 15:32:51 save/restore should backup my Text Assist app.. May 12 15:32:58 * PatrickC wonders how hard that would be May 12 15:34:24 there's a "Text Assist" app out there like T9? May 12 15:35:08 on 2.x there is.. idk if its like the T9's one (I didn't have a T9) May 12 15:36:33 pcwiz84, no, there isn't May 12 15:37:00 what was it on the T9? May 12 15:37:32 then what is Text Assist? May 12 15:37:48 user edited auto-correct dictionary May 12 15:37:52 T9 - some way of "speed texting" for phones with just numeric keyboards May 12 15:38:39 oh.. I thought it was a older Palm phone :P May 12 15:38:55 I wasn't thinking about T9-txting lol May 12 15:39:27 I know that T9=texting for numeric keyboards. Thought that "Text Assist" would help select full words from a list or something when u type the first few letters May 12 15:42:34 Where can I get "Text Assist"? May 12 15:42:56 oh, and I'll reinstall Preware on my Pixi. Thanks. May 12 15:43:16 Text Assist isn't available for the Pixi.. sorry May 12 15:43:26 its a "2.x exclusive" May 12 15:43:44 dang it! That figures May 12 15:44:30 talk to NuttyBunny: he had 2.1 running on a Pixi . . . May 12 15:44:35 he said its sloooooow :/ May 12 15:44:44 Text Assist just does word replacement, although you can define what you want to replace May 12 15:44:45 eh? Pixi? 2.1? May 12 15:44:55 it's not smart, and it doesn't "learn" from you May 12 15:45:02 or, not automatically May 12 15:45:07 you have to manually add things May 12 15:45:18 yep, text ass is different from the spell checker May 12 15:45:43 haha May 12 15:47:15 NuttyBunny, I wish Pixi was 2.1 May 12 15:47:27 or Pixi Plus in my case May 12 15:47:28 even the spell checker has to be manually told "this is a real word" May 12 15:47:39 how do I do that? May 12 15:48:39 pcwiz84, you can't, yet... put 2.1 on the Pixi May 12 15:49:41 yet? Is anyone in the works to get 2.1 up and running on Pixi? May 12 15:50:25 NuttyBunny had it, but he can't distribute it iirc May 12 15:50:58 there's no way to distribute 2.1 on the Pixi, because there's no publically available doctors, I believe May 12 15:51:01 PatrickC, r u talking about 2.1 on Pixi? May 12 15:51:17 pcwiz84: yeah May 12 15:51:27 summatusmentis: correct May 12 15:51:38 NuttyBunny: what happened? May 12 15:52:24 pcwiz84: legal issues on distributing unreleased Palm software, i'm trying to create a hybrid doctor, doing it with the differences between a 2.1 Pre doctor and the Pixi files I have May 12 15:54:09 I see May 12 15:58:34 anyone know about freetether, then? May 12 16:00:34 pcwiz84: yep, we know it exists, we use it, and the programmer is around :) May 12 16:05:43 Good. Then it's only effective if a webOS phone in on a subscribed network, right? My Pixi Plus is used ONLY as a pda, so it's not on any network. I was hoping freetether could act as a repeater of sorts for wifi connections. Any ideas? May 12 16:08:24 Meaning: It connects to a wifi connection, then shares it out to other devices near by? May 12 16:08:53 exactly May 12 16:09:45 I was hoping it could do that in case there's a weak signal, but the Pixi can pick it up and boost the signal to other devices May 12 16:11:21 if the Pixi's wifi radio is anything like the one in the Pre2, you'd have better luck picking up the signal via the other devices XD May 12 16:11:53 also, do most wifi radios allow dual-modes like that? May 12 16:12:27 summatusmentis: not really May 12 16:13:08 I didn't think so, you're either usually a client, or a "repeater"/"broadcaster" right? May 12 16:13:22 like, that's why you need a second data connection when you put a phone in ad-hoc mode May 12 16:13:41 too bad. What about, when it's connected to a computer? May 12 16:14:21 you could maybe do that? if you had USB networking setup, you could be getting your data connection from usb, and broadcasting via wifi May 12 16:14:28 I'm not sure freetether allows that though May 12 16:14:43 freetether is used for sharing your phone data connection with other devices May 12 16:14:49 not the other way around May 12 16:14:52 I don't think the phones USB set up supports that out of the box May 12 16:15:06 I would absolutely believe that May 12 16:15:26 Or Bluetooth, for that matter. May 12 16:16:30 pcwiz84, summatusmentis : freetether doesn't allow that, myTether does it btw, you can select which interface is the source, so, in theory, you could create a network on your Pre, and share your PC's network with the Pixi, the inverse case as the normal tether definition May 12 16:20:52 is myTether free or would I have to purchase it? May 12 16:22:05 "donation"ware, but yes, it's more like a purchase. May 12 16:22:41 is it through the App Catalog or homebrew? May 12 16:22:46 homebrew May 12 16:23:14 yep, in fact I think there's a windows installer for it May 12 16:23:16 good to know. Since I don't have wifi atm, how much is it? May 12 16:23:19 (if you use windows) May 12 16:23:30 I'm using LinuxMint atm May 12 16:23:30 $14 I think? I don't remember May 12 16:23:47 WOW! That's a lot of money! May 12 16:23:53 ah, then you should use the manual command line install, done directly on your Pixi May 12 16:24:40 *curious* never heard of the command. Care to inform me about it? May 12 16:29:34 pcwiz84, If you go to developer.palm.com, and look for the SDK link, you can find a link for the novacom driver (linux, .deb file), with this you can communicate directly with your phone and mess with it May 12 16:29:58 like "rooting", but we're allowed to do it by Palm, and it's completely supported May 12 16:30:48 so, from a technical side, not at all like rooting :) May 12 16:30:54 nope May 12 16:31:18 and mytether died didn't it? May 12 16:31:26 I already have the .deb file. Just don't know much about what commands are usable May 12 16:31:35 I dunno May 12 16:32:35 halfhalo:don't know if mytether died or not May 12 16:33:04 pretty sure it did. the author cut and run iirc May 12 16:33:24 dang May 12 16:34:37 NuttyBunny: could u give me some pointers on how to use the Palm deb file in a cli? May 12 16:34:39 halfhalo: but it works on 1.4.5, doesn't it? May 12 16:34:51 I have no idea. never used it May 12 16:34:55 pcwiz84: have you installed it? May 12 16:35:54 halfhalo, yes, I think it did, I had it, I needed a tether solution on 1.4, I think, and the mobile hotspot was a pain to setui May 12 16:35:56 stup May 12 16:35:59 setup May 12 17:00:59 hi May 12 17:01:28 who is there please? May 12 17:02:29 no one but us chickens, bukbukbuk May 12 17:02:50 haha May 12 17:03:49 i by passed my palm pre May 12 17:04:32 can u help me activate my catalog app May 12 17:07:57 bukbukbuk how did you bypass activation, using the palm tools? May 12 17:08:16 (I am a chicken) May 12 17:09:29 yes May 12 17:10:18 build a metadoctor bukbukbuk you can find instructions on the webOS internals wiki link in the topic, you can bypass first use/activation and log into a profile that way, but you won't have paid app access bukbukbuk May 12 17:11:15 ok May 12 17:11:33 you'll need either Mac OSX or Ubuntu Linux to do so though bukbukbuk May 12 17:12:24 ok May 12 17:15:50 apart from this can i get access to profile creating interface any where currently May 12 17:16:12 not if you used Palm's activation bypass tools May 12 17:16:36 meta doctor will patch it so that you can access the profile creation via the Gesture Tutorial if on 2.x or via the First Use app on 1.x May 12 17:16:49 oh yeah I'm still a chicken bukbukbuk good luck :U May 12 17:17:01 thanks May 12 17:26:15 sconix, ping? May 12 17:29:53 NuttyBunny: yep May 12 17:30:32 haha May 12 17:31:41 sconix: Look here: http://forums.precentral.net/general-webos-chat/282197-google-talk-webos-2-0-doesnt-re-login-after-signal-loss.html , would it be feasible to add this to your patches as a configurable option? That whenever the phone gets network access, it checks preferences on the accounts and try to go online? May 12 17:32:44 Or should it be integrated on the messaging plugins? The problem is that the im transport sets the accounts to offline once the phone loses networks access and it leaves them that way May 12 17:33:16 pcwiz84: what are you trying to do viea tethering I'm confused May 12 17:33:38 NuttyBunny: well that might with my patch, at least not the messaging plugins May 12 17:33:42 with = fit May 12 17:35:14 or add it as a tweak somewhere, lemme see if I can make it happen, and we could add it as a tweak :) May 12 18:04:11 speaking of messaging. I can't sign onto aim or gtalk on my sprint pre2 is this a known issue or just me? May 12 18:04:15 aaa i missed the question we're supposed to answer, had some live meeting issues.. :( May 12 18:05:19 Jack87|Away, it's your router's issue May 12 18:05:37 not even from 3g? May 12 18:27:10 sconix: mmm... I can use the Activity Manager to setup a callback to be called in the messaging app so whenever a connection is available, it could try to login again... we could later setup a way to force the offline mode... I'll play with this :D May 12 18:29:24 I wonder if it would work even if the messaging app hasn't been run, like after a device restart May 12 18:30:02 nevermind, I just remember, there apps that run on boot, email, messaging and phone May 12 18:32:35 NuttyBunny: yes that would be the way I would have gone implementing it, it need maybe a timeout or something that it wont go online if the disconnect state is long. May 12 18:35:07 Well, for the first test I'll do it so that whenever the phone goes online, it tries to connect the messaging accounts. Of course, they can timeout (2.5 mins, says the imlibpurpletransport source), and they'll won't connect again until the phone loses all connections and recovers... May 12 21:21:37 hi all, yesterdayi cracked the touch panel of my palm pre .... now i want to change it but on the net i found that the screen touch panel and case, are soldered togheter is true ? i can't change only the touch panel ? May 12 21:22:23 the only reason is .. that the lcd and case are in good condition .. and change all is too expensive ... May 12 21:41:34 NuttyBunny, I was using FreeTether right before it might of not restroted data properly after a reboot all is well May 12 21:43:10 Darkmagister, why not just by a Palm Pre + online with bad ESN and just swap you comboard May 12 21:44:41 Jack87, i have a pre - and i live in italy ;) ... i haven't found pre from sprint or something like that ... on ebay May 12 21:45:09 with a lower price .... for the case+touch+lcd i found 60 $ .... May 12 21:45:10 unlocked GSM http://cgi.ebay.com/Palm-Pre-Plus-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-/110686696888?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item19c570f5b8#ht_500wt_1156 May 12 21:46:03 but i need internationl shipping :( May 12 21:46:34 you know if the board of the plus work on the pre - May 12 21:46:35 ? May 12 21:46:36 darn May 12 21:46:46 but ya.. just look for a pre/pre+/pre2 May 12 21:47:01 ya same board May 12 21:47:08 for all 3 May 12 21:47:16 mm and same display ... May 12 21:47:54 ya.. but it be so much easier swapping the comboard May 12 21:48:05 even from a cdma pre May 12 21:49:22 really ? it's easier swap the board instead of the display .. mmm May 12 21:50:41 ok ... finally i only have to find some offert that ship to italy :D May 12 21:52:58 looks like international shippers are hard to come by May 12 21:53:16 Jack87: for a Pre2? May 12 21:53:39 i just did a board swap from pre to pre2 2 days ago May 12 21:53:44 ah May 12 21:53:52 and you're sending it to someone? May 12 21:54:28 Darkmagister, this page will come in handy when you find a CDMA device http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2 May 12 21:54:37 no May 12 21:54:45 IGNTNUNLMTD, no May 12 21:54:48 ah May 12 21:55:01 so what do you need shipping for? May 12 21:55:24 it's for swap the board from a norma cdma pre to a pre 2 ? May 12 21:55:36 not me lol.... Darkmagister needs to find a bad ESN CDMA pre of some sort because his GSM screen is broken May 12 21:55:43 he lives in italiy May 12 21:55:56 yes May 12 21:56:20 Darkmagister, ya... thats what that page shows how to do.. but the procedure is the same accross the line between all pre/pre+/pre2 May 12 21:56:31 ok thanks ... May 12 21:57:03 a question on the board with gsm or cdma chip ... is the same with the processor ram ecc. ? May 12 21:57:19 you may find a CDMA pre for fairly cheap sometimes May 12 21:57:30 Darkmagister, its only the comm board May 12 21:57:52 you only swap the comunication board which is the antena May 12 21:58:05 ok May 12 21:58:19 so if you got a CDMA preplus you will have a GSM preplus when you swap the comboard May 12 21:58:21 thanks :D i go to search something useful :D May 12 21:58:26 ;) May 12 21:58:28 good May 12 21:58:44 beautiful news May 12 21:58:45 :D May 12 21:58:48 look for a BAD ESN verizon preplus May 12 21:59:43 ok May 12 22:00:19 just make sure if its "used" the condition is good as this will become your new phone May 12 22:00:47 yes :D the verizon is the cheaper ? May 12 22:04:00 Jack87: use USPS May 12 22:04:02 seriously May 12 22:04:13 INT'L shipping is cheap as chips May 12 22:04:20 and you can insure it for cheap May 12 22:06:53 it's not so much the shipping that gets you, it's customs May 12 22:08:51 Darkmagister, what city? May 12 22:09:02 Torino May 12 23:40:00 this pre2 is gonna go offline now.. byye **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 13 02:59:58 2011