**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 19 02:59:58 2011
May 19 03:01:26 <smknutson> Just now about to do it lol
May 19 03:02:46 * PatrickC wonders what we're doing
May 19 03:04:05 <smknutson> Im wondering the same thing Patrick
May 19 03:04:44 <smknutson> So Nutty, to modify the installer.xml, would I open the .jar doctor file, change it then save??
May 19 03:05:09 <NuttyBunny> no, no, you create a meta doctor with the tokens as parameters
May 19 03:05:42 <smknutson> ok. yeah that sounds ddifferent to me, Im sorry for asking so many questions but which file would I add the token to?
May 19 03:06:34 <NuttyBunny> hehehe.. have you used meta doctor before?
May 19 03:06:53 <smknutson> Yeah, to make a sprint pre plus. Just a little confused as to where i'd add the DMSETS token
May 19 03:07:16 <NuttyBunny> did you use one of the scripts?
May 19 03:07:37 <smknutson> Yes, the 2.1.0 script
May 19 03:08:28 <DT> hey
May 19 03:08:37 <DT> whats the prefered way to bypass sprint activation on 1.4.5?
May 19 03:09:16 <DT> used metadoctor but first-run still launches
May 19 03:09:43 <NuttyBunny> DT: really? are you sure you're running the correct file?
May 19 03:09:48 <DT> pretty sure
May 19 03:09:53 <DT> where is the good file located?
May 19 03:09:58 <smknutson> DT, is it on a network? or does the pre have no account
May 19 03:10:05 <DT> it has no account but a good ESN
May 19 03:10:13 <smknutson> Do you want it to be with sprint?
May 19 03:10:18 <smknutson> Just use Palm's Developer unlock tool
May 19 03:10:22 <halfhalo> first run should by bypassed as well, right?
May 19 03:10:24 <DT> link?
May 19 03:10:35 <halfhalo> not just activation
May 19 03:10:37 <NuttyBunny> smknutson: meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0  or which one=
May 19 03:10:50 <DT> using 1.4.5 so i can clean my profile
May 19 03:10:53 <DT> just dusted off the pre tonight
May 19 03:11:12 <smknutson> NuttyBunny, thats the right one
May 19 03:11:23 <smknutson> DT: im looking for ya
May 19 03:11:32 <DT> thanks
May 19 03:11:56 <smknutson> DT: https://developer.palm.com/content/index.php?id=4522
May 19 03:12:08 <DT> thanks
May 19 03:12:28 <smknutson> Thats what i used
May 19 03:12:36 <DT> going to run that now
May 19 03:12:42 <NuttyBunny> smknutson: do you have your new dmsets?
May 19 03:13:14 <smknutson> I have it. should I follow the pre plussing routine?
May 19 03:13:46 <smknutson> ie- <Val name="DMSETS" action="overwrite" value="xxxxxxxx"/>
May 19 03:13:49 <smknutson> Like that?
May 19 03:15:07 <NuttyBunny> no, like this:
May 19 03:15:22 <NuttyBunny> CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=556 CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=560 scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0
May 19 03:15:36 <NuttyBunny> those dmsets are for preplus, at&t
May 19 03:15:40 <smknutson> and that would be typed where?
May 19 03:16:20 <DT> ran it
May 19 03:16:25 <NuttyBunny> the one that's in the webOS.tar file, goes in WEBOS_DMSET, and the one in sprint.tar goes in CARRIER_DMSET
May 19 03:16:29 <DT> phone rebooted with webosinternals logo pulsing
May 19 03:16:57 <NuttyBunny> DT: It should jump right into Luna
May 19 03:17:08 <DT> it didn't
May 19 03:17:10 <DT> fucking piece of shit!
May 19 03:17:30 <IGNTNUNLMTD> question of somewhat ridiculous proportions: could one write a patch to literally flip the screen on a horizontal axis for the entire OS?
May 19 03:17:59 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I have a feeling that's probably lower level than a patch
May 19 03:18:04 <IGNTNUNLMTD> but I figured I'd ask
May 19 03:18:32 <NuttyBunny> DT: What are you getting?
May 19 03:18:50 <smknutson> brb nutty
May 19 03:19:20 <NuttyBunny> IGNTNUNLMTD: the entire OS?? mmm... flip.. no, I don't think it would be easy :S
May 19 03:20:10 <DT> i must have fucked up the flash
May 19 03:20:13 <DT> restoring with stock doctor
May 19 03:21:05 <IGNTNUNLMTD> what about individual apps?
May 19 03:21:34 <smknutson> DT, once you run that tool and reboot, it should boot straight into luna
May 19 03:23:02 <smknutson> Nutty, so installer.xml inside BOTH sprint.tar and webos.tar correct?
May 19 03:23:14 <NuttyBunny> yep
May 19 03:23:36 <Saij> anyone familiar with editing the systemui.css to include a transparent overlay over the background instead of palm default solid black?
May 19 03:24:01 <smknutson> right ok, i see " <DMSet token="a"/> " ... inside of sprint.tar so that would be the sprint specific number yes?
May 19 03:24:51 <NuttyBunny> yep
May 19 03:25:13 <smknutson> So you are saying, I modify those and save them? or do I need to run a NEW metadoctor?
May 19 03:27:28 <NuttyBunny> a new meta doctor
May 19 03:27:54 <NuttyBunny> get the dmsets, and run the script again, with a command similar to what I wrote
May 19 03:28:07 <NuttyBunny> CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=XXX CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=YYY scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0
May 19 03:28:29 <smknutson> replacing XXX with respective values?
May 19 03:28:41 <NuttyBunny> yup
May 19 03:30:21 <smknutson> Ok... I will try it
May 19 03:31:08 <smknutson> Is auto install preware fixed in these new scripts?
May 19 03:32:16 <PatrickC> it wasn't for me
May 19 03:32:24 <smknutson> :(
May 19 03:32:31 <PatrickC> yeah :/
May 19 03:32:37 <PatrickC> it borked my phone.......
May 19 03:33:09 <smknutson> eff that
May 19 03:33:57 <NuttyBunny> nope, won't work
May 19 03:36:25 <rwhitby> borked your phone, yeah right.
May 19 03:37:35 <PatrickC> rwhitby: preware wouldn't run
May 19 03:37:56 <PatrickC> it only tried to run when it installed, which was rarely
May 19 03:38:09 <rwhitby> which is quite different from "borked my phone"
May 19 03:38:29 <PatrickC> s/my phone/preware/
May 19 03:39:02 <rwhitby> which is why it is no longer enabled in the scripts
May 19 03:39:40 <PatrickC> but its a choice.. so that's what messed me up :)
May 19 03:39:50 <NuttyBunny> rwhitby: nothing like 2.1 on the Pixi... it borked my Pixi, not even the 1.4.5 Doctor wanted to help, recreated partitions and everything... I left it and the next day, the Doctor worked on the first try.. :)
May 19 03:39:53 <Loudergood> don't you know a phone without preware is practically useless? ;)
May 19 03:40:36 <smknutson> Yeah, I think HPalm should license it lol
May 19 03:40:41 <PatrickC> haha
May 19 03:40:49 <NuttyBunny> I always keep a 1.5.0 preware install ipk in my machine
May 19 03:41:53 <smknutson> Here we go... creating the 2.1 doctor with the updated dmsets
May 19 03:42:00 <smknutson> *fingers crossed*
May 19 03:42:27 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny: why?
May 19 03:43:01 <NuttyBunny> PatrickC: after doctoring, first thing: dev mode, second: preware
May 19 03:43:11 <PatrickC> why not 1.5.9?
May 19 03:44:23 <smknutson> Ugggh ERROR 2
May 19 03:45:01 * PatrickC hides
May 19 03:48:41 <smknutson> Looks liek I have to nuke my meta-doctor directory and start from fresh
May 19 03:49:58 <PatrickC> can't you make-clobber (or whatever the cmd is?)
May 19 03:50:49 <smknutson> probably
May 19 03:51:31 <NuttyBunny> Yep, always use a Pristine® meta doctor directory for your builds :)   ©rwhitby
May 19 03:52:06 <smknutson> hopefully ikts not VMbox being stupid and not expanding my virtual drive
May 19 03:52:08 <smknutson> its*
May 19 03:57:10 <smknutson> this is gonna need another beer
May 19 03:57:38 <NuttyBunny> and my battery is almost dead
May 19 03:57:48 <NuttyBunny> both the laptop's and the bunny's
May 19 03:58:02 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 04:00:38 <DT> someone send me a pre2
May 19 04:00:40 <DT> thanks.
May 19 04:00:45 <smknutson> crud... I forgot where to put the pre minus tokens in my pre plus meta-doctor
May 19 04:01:08 <DT> webos doctor is about 4 times slower than using a HTC RUU
May 19 04:01:12 <PatrickC> DT: send me $250 thanks :)
May 19 04:01:46 <DT> ;\
May 19 04:01:54 <DT> i emailed HP for the fucking coupon.
May 19 04:02:27 <NuttyBunny> smknutson:  CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=XXX CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=YYY scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0         <-- that?
May 19 04:04:11 <NuttyBunny> bah, in a couple of minutes this thing will hibernate and I left the charger at work
May 19 04:04:19 <dwc-> whoops
May 19 04:04:26 <DT> anyone remember the speed of the pres processor
May 19 04:04:31 <DT> stock clockrate
May 19 04:04:33 <smknutson> 500/600
May 19 04:04:34 <dwc-> 500mhz?
May 19 04:04:38 <DT> ouch.
May 19 04:04:41 <dwc-> underclocked from 600, I think
May 19 04:04:49 <smknutson> "500/600"
May 19 04:05:02 <smknutson> No nutty, I needed to dl 1.4.5 and modify the tokens before running the xcript
May 19 04:05:11 * PatrickC never runs stock
May 19 04:05:46 <smknutson> Damn VMbox isnt expanding my virtual disk so now its full at 8GB and wont give me more!
May 19 04:06:13 <PatrickC> delete the old meta-doc files?
May 19 04:06:20 <smknutson> i deleted the whole directory
May 19 04:06:27 <smknutson> Its all the updates
May 19 04:06:34 <PatrickC> dang
May 19 04:06:40 <smknutson> **** im gonna have to reinstall ubuntu
May 19 04:06:45 <NuttyBunny> /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
May 19 04:06:49 <NuttyBunny> delete those
May 19 04:06:57 <PatrickC> if you reinstall ubuntu, wubi it
May 19 04:07:01 <smknutson> wubi?
May 19 04:07:35 <PatrickC> wubi == Windows Based Ubuntu Installer iirc
May 19 04:08:01 <PatrickC> it installs ubuntu for dualboot like a regular program in windows, and uninstalls just as easy
May 19 04:08:03 <smknutson> wont let me delete those .debs nutty
May 19 04:08:21 <smknutson> I use VMbox, Im too lazy to dualboot
May 19 04:08:23 <PatrickC> let me get you a wubi link
May 19 04:08:26 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 04:08:34 <PatrickC> it takes like 5 min to do (if that)
May 19 04:08:39 <PatrickC> you already have the iso?
May 19 04:08:52 <smknutson> yeah, of 10.xx
May 19 04:08:54 <PatrickC> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
May 19 04:09:05 <NuttyBunny> smknutson: you have to do it as root
May 19 04:09:18 <smknutson> ugggh theres that nasty word: root
May 19 04:09:22 <PatrickC> put the wubi file in the same folder as the iso, and run wubi :)
May 19 04:09:25 <PatrickC> hah
May 19 04:09:30 <smknutson> sweet thanks Patrick, thats my next project
May 19 04:09:36 <PatrickC> np
May 19 04:09:36 <NuttyBunny> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.deb
May 19 04:09:42 <PatrickC> I can help you if needed
May 19 04:09:58 <smknutson> not tonight, already spending enough time fixing my doctor
May 19 04:10:15 <smknutson> the wife assigns me a bedtime, the pc is in our bedroom temporarily lol
May 19 04:10:29 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 04:11:12 <smknutson> cannot remove .deb, no such diorectory
May 19 04:11:27 <PatrickC> *.deb
May 19 04:12:10 <PatrickC> smknutson: let wubi run in the background :)
May 19 04:12:23 <smknutson> nvm im dumb
May 19 04:12:29 <PatrickC> why? lol
May 19 04:12:41 <smknutson> its late and im typing gibberish
May 19 04:12:51 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 04:12:52 <smknutson> obviously not enough beer
May 19 04:12:53 <pawnshop73> good evening.  I have something of a puzzle on my hands... I seem to have 1 of my yahoo accounts set up as an IM, but I cannot appear to get the other configured as a messenger.  Research on this seems to indicate that this was possible somewhere around 1.3.5 but is no longer available.  question: anyone know a way to get a yahoo account configured as an IM acount these days on a Sprint Pre ?  I've tried locating a 1.3.5 webosDocto
May 19 04:13:04 <DT> does ANYONE use a sprint pre1 still?
May 19 04:13:08 <DT> it's been something like 3 years
May 19 04:13:13 * pawnshop73 hangs head in shame
May 19 04:13:17 <bpadalino> it hasn't been 2 years yet ..
May 19 04:13:20 * PatrickC raises hand sadly
May 19 04:13:22 <DT> feels longer
May 19 04:13:22 <pawnshop73> I was downsized
May 19 04:13:27 <DT> still, slow as dirt
May 19 04:13:28 <DT> ah.
May 19 04:13:39 <PatrickC> OC
May 19 04:13:54 <DT> 2 years but we've gone from 500 mhz to dual core 1.2ghz devices
May 19 04:14:07 <PatrickC> OC to 1.2GHz
May 19 04:14:16 <DT> still single core with 128mb
May 19 04:14:18 <DT> of ram
May 19 04:14:39 <PatrickC> comms board swap to pre2
May 19 04:14:40 <pawnshop73> yeah, OC helps alot, but ram still leaves me feeling like I'm in a Yugo
May 19 04:14:43 <PatrickC> and OC to 1.4GHz
May 19 04:14:43 <DT> still a slow device
May 19 04:14:53 <DT> with a shit screen res
May 19 04:14:55 <smknutson> Id like a pre 2
May 19 04:14:58 <DT> and, again, single core
May 19 04:15:08 <smknutson> bah spoiled with this dualcore
May 19 04:15:22 * PatrickC likes his Pre2 at 1.4GHz
May 19 04:15:22 <cryptk> I love my franken-Pre2
May 19 04:15:29 <PatrickC> hey cryptk
May 19 04:15:35 <cryptk> hey PatrickC
May 19 04:15:36 <smknutson> next its gonna be hexacore "but I have a dualcore... **** time to upgrade"
May 19 04:15:44 <PatrickC> haha
May 19 04:15:48 <smknutson> "it aint hardcore... unless its hexacore"
May 19 04:15:55 <PatrickC> octacore
May 19 04:16:07 <pawnshop73> yes, agreed, pre1 is probably the slowest, worst WebOS hardware... and I still think it is a better os than my wife's droid
May 19 04:16:24 <PatrickC> ummmmm... Pixi1 is definitely slower
May 19 04:16:37 <PatrickC> much slower
May 19 04:16:59 * pawnshop73 will happily accept a pre2 donation to try a comms board swap
May 19 04:17:01 <smknutson> triacontakaidicore
May 19 04:17:44 <pawnshop73> PatrickC: possibly.  I never actually got my hands on a pixi
May 19 04:18:07 <PatrickC> it has an Armv6 with a 400MHz processor iirc
May 19 04:18:13 <PatrickC> and its sooooooooo slooooooow
May 19 04:18:15 <pawnshop73> ouch.
May 19 04:18:33 * cryptk is loving the exhibition slideshow when it is loaded up with pictures of the ladyfriend
May 19 04:18:35 <PatrickC> yeah :/
May 19 04:18:35 * pawnshop73 realizes it could be worse
May 19 04:18:37 <smknutson> Pixi is 600Mhz
May 19 04:18:44 <PatrickC> OCed
May 19 04:18:46 <smknutson> but its a slower processor than the Pre
May 19 04:18:49 <smknutson> 600 stock
May 19 04:18:51 <PatrickC> its not stock 600MHz
May 19 04:18:55 <PatrickC> really?
May 19 04:19:06 <smknutson> its not the same processor as a pre
May 19 04:19:10 <cryptk> different proc tech
May 19 04:19:10 <PatrickC> I thought that it was OCed to 600MHz when I had one
May 19 04:19:19 <smknutson> 600 stock
May 19 04:19:23 <smknutson> but a SLOW 600
May 19 04:19:31 <PatrickC> ^^yes!!
May 19 04:19:36 <smknutson> my wife had one
May 19 04:19:42 <smknutson> I couldnt bare to look at her using it
May 19 04:19:46 <PatrickC> and even at 806.xx (I was daring) its slow!
May 19 04:20:14 <PatrickC> so.. you got her a pre? :(
May 19 04:20:17 <PatrickC> :) *
May 19 04:20:20 <smknutson> (myriacore=10,000 cores)
May 19 04:20:27 <pawnshop73> so, back to my original question... anyone know how I may be able to set up a yahoo account as an IM account, or possibly where I can get a sprint pre 1.3.5 webos doctor?
May 19 04:20:28 <smknutson> yes, then she broke it and went back to her BB
May 19 04:20:43 <PatrickC> noooooo :'(
May 19 04:20:50 <PatrickC> googleplexcore
May 19 04:20:56 <smknutson> lol
May 19 04:20:57 <smknutson> infinicore
May 19 04:21:05 <smknutson> ooooh I should trademark that
May 19 04:21:11 <smknutson> pawnshop
May 19 04:21:17 <pawnshop73> yes?
May 19 04:21:18 <PatrickC> haha you should
May 19 04:21:29 <smknutson> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Pre
May 19 04:21:49 <PatrickC> 1.3.5 isn't out for dl anymore afaik
May 19 04:21:58 <DT> im sure someone archived it though
May 19 04:22:02 <DT> YES
May 19 04:22:06 <pawnshop73> "NOTE: Since March 18th 2010, the Palm servers are no longer  hosting old WebOSDoctor versions via the links below. The current  versions are still available."
May 19 04:22:12 <DT> got activation fixed, did the palm-launch com.palm.firstuse
May 19 04:22:20 <smknutson> suck.
May 19 04:22:22 <DT> have app catalog working without activation
May 19 04:22:23 <pawnshop73> yep
May 19 04:22:26 <DT> sweet
May 19 04:22:29 <pawnshop73> I'd already been there
May 19 04:22:45 <PatrickC> pawnshop: pre right?
May 19 04:22:52 <pawnshop73> yes
May 19 04:22:57 <pawnshop73> sprint pre
May 19 04:22:59 <PatrickC> 2.1ify it
May 19 04:23:14 <PatrickC> desktop OS
May 19 04:23:19 <pawnshop73> ok.  I can't find that one either.
May 19 04:23:28 <pawnshop73> wait..
May 19 04:23:34 <PatrickC> you have to make it :)
May 19 04:23:42 * pawnshop73 realizes that is 2.1, not 1.2.1
May 19 04:23:43 <smknutson> lol
May 19 04:23:50 <PatrickC> haha
May 19 04:23:52 <smknutson> meta-doctor ftw
May 19 04:24:02 <PatrickC> ^^ yes
May 19 04:24:39 <PatrickC> pawnshop: desktop OS?
May 19 04:27:59 <smknutson> woooooo just got a SSD
May 19 04:28:18 <PatrickC> cool
May 19 04:28:39 <smknutson> Excited
May 19 04:28:43 <PatrickC> uNiXpSyChO: what's the fastest you've had a Pixi/Plus?
May 19 04:28:53 <DT> still slow as mollases
May 19 04:29:02 <uNiXpSyChO> i dont have a Pixi :-)
May 19 04:29:02 <DT> i am amazed everyone hasn't given up yet
May 19 04:29:10 <smknutson> and Im dling the doctors for my 2.1.0 at 1.95M/s
May 19 04:29:26 <SineOt> the fastest the Pixi has gone to was 906mhz, but at that speed it wouldn't boot on most hardware
May 19 04:29:35 <SineOt> 846 is basically the fastest it'll ever get
May 19 04:30:51 <PatrickC> its better the 600MHz
May 19 04:32:13 <PatrickC> night
May 19 04:40:06 <pawnshop73> Windows 7 and Kubuntu 11.04
May 19 04:40:23 <pawnshop73> sorry, SO distracted me
May 19 04:40:58 <smknutson> my SO distracts me to
May 19 04:41:07 <smknutson> by telling me to do this do that
May 19 05:32:38 <smknutson> **** damnit
May 19 05:36:37 <pawnshop73> ?
May 19 05:40:40 <smknutson> my sprint pre plus STILL wont login to my profile
May 19 05:46:06 * pawnshop73 looks at his freshly doctored Sprint Pre 1 and has some sympathy... just not very much  :-D
May 19 05:46:17 <smknutson> lol
May 19 05:46:22 <smknutson> i just bypass activation
May 19 05:46:30 <smknutson> I lose some apps
May 19 05:46:39 <rwhitby> smknutson: give me 15 mins and I might be able to help you
May 19 05:47:15 <smknutson> +rhitby: alright, sounds good thanks
May 19 05:47:56 <rwhitby> in the meantime, write up a story on pastebin.com which tells me exactly the history of the device and everything you've done to it.
May 19 05:48:41 <rwhitby> or email it to me (you have my email address)
May 19 05:48:58 <rwhitby> assume that I've forgotten everything you've told me in the past - start from scratch
May 19 05:50:00 <smknutson> will do, give me 10 to grab some food and write it up
May 19 05:50:08 <rwhitby> ok
May 19 05:50:12 <smknutson> in the meantime Ill be relogging in to my pre.
May 19 05:58:22 <DT> how do I skip activation on webos2.0 without creating a fake palm profile like the official way to skip does
May 19 06:02:01 <DT> fuck it, I WILL DEVISE MY OWN METHOD. HAHAHAH--
May 19 06:03:01 <pawnshop73> rwhitby, would you per chance know where one could download a WebOSDoctor for WebOS 1.3.5 for a stock hardwre Sprint Pre?
May 19 06:03:22 <rwhitby> pawnshop73: there is no such legally obtainable file.
May 19 06:03:32 <pawnshop73> I was afraid of that.
May 19 06:03:46 <DT> someone sell me some newer hardware
May 19 06:03:50 <DT> i want to do a comboard swap
May 19 06:03:54 <DT> bored, you know
May 19 06:05:24 <pawnshop73> rwhitby, may I paste bin you a issue for your opinion?
May 19 06:05:46 <rwhitby> sure, I can't guarantee a response though.
May 19 06:05:50 <rwhitby> smknutson: ready when you are
May 19 06:06:09 <smknutson> rwhitby, writing email as we speak
May 19 06:06:11 <pawnshop73> understood.
May 19 06:06:56 <pawnshop73> http://pastebin.com/13QkEUgc
May 19 06:07:47 <DT> i wan't kidding. someone sell me a plus/pre2
May 19 06:08:29 <pawnshop73> and thank you for all of your work in making my phone better.
May 19 06:14:33 <smknutson> email sent rwhitby
May 19 06:14:43 <rwhitby> pawnshop73: no idea
May 19 06:14:57 <pawnshop73> cool, thanks for looking
May 19 06:15:13 <rwhitby> smknutson: what's the history of this device?
May 19 06:15:32 <rwhitby> how did it get to be what it is today?
May 19 06:15:45 <dwc-> you know, I seem to remember one of my friends with 1.4.5 telling me Y! didn't work
May 19 06:15:48 <smknutson> started as a sprint pre and verizon pre plus
May 19 06:16:32 <smknutson> it was working FINE until 5 days ago after a 1.4.5 doctor, then it would not log in again, prior to the doctor, it was working fine
May 19 06:17:47 <smknutson> and after several doctors, including the one I used to create my working flash, it will not fix dmsets token
May 19 06:18:13 <rwhitby> smknutson: so it's a verizon pre plus with a sprint pre comms board in it?
May 19 06:18:24 <smknutson> correct.
May 19 06:18:43 <DT> rwhitby
May 19 06:19:00 <DT> is there a way to login to a palm profile on a webos2.1 sprint pre without activating that pre
May 19 06:19:07 <rwhitby> smknutson: and the carrier token has been written to Sprint, right?
May 19 06:19:26 <rwhitby> DT: ##DEVMODE# and Impostah
May 19 06:19:33 <DT> Impostah?
May 19 06:19:36 <DT> cool.
May 19 06:19:53 <smknutson> rwhitby: as far as I know, yes. I have sms and phone calls and 3g service via sprint
May 19 06:20:04 <rwhitby> smknutson: you should just be able to use a stock Sprint 1.4.5 doctor, right?
May 19 06:21:05 <smknutson> I've been under the assumption that any doctor I use needs to be modified with my tokens - or am I able to use a stock untouched doctor?
May 19 06:23:39 <rwhitby> for a sprint pre plus, you modify the tokens once, and stock doctor from then on
May 19 06:24:14 <smknutson> ah. and for 2.1?
May 19 06:24:53 <rwhitby> use the sprint-2.1.0 script and no changes in Makefile
May 19 06:25:53 <smknutson> make a fresh meta-doctor, then makefile with remove carrier and model check. specify sprint and pre, and that's it?
May 19 06:31:35 <rwhitby> don't do any of that.
May 19 06:31:40 <rwhitby> use the sprint-2.1.0 script and no changes in Makefile
May 19 06:32:04 <rwhitby> the remove carrier check is what's causing your dmsets problem
May 19 06:32:12 <smknutson> understood
May 19 06:32:26 <rwhitby> don't vary from the scripts
May 19 06:32:48 <smknutson> learned my lesson.
May 19 06:34:49 <smknutson> thanks for schooling me rod
May 19 06:36:41 <DT> my god the old pre is so fucking slow
May 19 06:38:40 <smknutson> lol
May 19 06:39:04 <smknutson> old pre?
May 19 06:39:10 <DT> first one.
May 19 06:39:17 <DT> and yeah, they are all old
May 19 06:40:06 <smknutson> plus it
May 19 06:40:48 <DT> i don't own a plus
May 19 06:40:53 <DT> i'd rather have a 2 tbh
May 19 06:43:13 <smknutson> yeah 2 would be better
May 19 06:43:33 <smknutson> or 3
May 19 07:22:57 <DTa> AWESOME. my main phone just died
May 19 07:23:07 <DTa> either it or the battery is dead. i'm not even getting the charging indicator
May 19 07:40:30 <DTa> god fucking damn it
May 19 08:05:29 <rwhitby> DTa: FYI, we prefer to keep the language PG-13 in this channel, thanks.
May 19 11:07:05 <GarthPS> is there some makefile ninja here ?
May 19 11:07:26 <GarthPS> I have this
May 19 11:07:27 <GarthPS> .PHONY: lvm-resize
May 19 11:07:30 <GarthPS> lvm-resize: unmount unmount-fso lvm-setup
May 19 11:07:40 <GarthPS>     ...
May 19 11:07:57 <GarthPS> but when I call lvm-resize my unmount dependencie is not executed because it has already been executed before lvm-resize has been called..
May 19 17:23:30 <free__> test wIRC
May 19 17:23:56 <NuttyBunny> free__ test succesful
May 19 17:24:23 <free__> ok
May 19 17:39:10 <RagingMind> off topic, but awesome and worth sharing http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
May 19 17:42:18 <Cerealklr|School> Zombies are always tangentially on subject.
May 19 19:24:23 <preoccupied> hey guys, quick question. If I use MetaDoctor to bypass activation on a GSM Pre 2, can I later use Impostah to reactivate without doctoring the phone?
May 19 19:24:57 <NuttyBunny> preoccupied: Of course!!
May 19 19:27:21 <preoccupied> ok, thanks!
May 19 19:29:16 <preoccupied> Is there official documentation for Impostah?
May 19 19:30:06 <NuttyBunny> preoccupied: mmm... I don't really think so, but there's a thread on PreCentral
May 19 19:32:18 <preoccupied> ok, thanks
May 19 19:33:35 <preoccupied> bbl
May 19 19:59:57 <sully__> excuse me if I'm being foolish, but preware patches aren't working with 1.4.5.1
May 19 20:02:42 <NuttyBunny> sully__, Yes, that should be correct, there's no repository for 1.4.5.1 patches... yet
May 19 20:30:40 <Cerealklr> Have you guys seen Precentral this morning? Nova-Dartfish and the Pre Slab apparently popping up in logs now. =]
May 19 20:30:51 <Cerealklr> (the former being a keyboard'd tablet)
May 19 20:31:51 <SineOt> yup
May 19 20:31:55 <SineOt> saw it yesterday
May 19 20:32:08 <Cerealklr> Looks like with a touch of luck and some smoothtalking I'll be heading to the PDC
May 19 20:32:13 <Cerealklr> Maybe I'll get to see it. =]
May 19 20:32:22 <Loudergood> we were talking about it in one of these channels yesterday
May 19 20:32:45 <Cerealklr> It might explain why HP has been so oddly silent in terms of advertising
May 19 20:32:50 <Cerealklr> perhaps they want to do a sort of ad-explosion?
May 19 20:34:49 <SineOt> That's what I was figuring
May 19 20:35:00 <SineOt> Launch the Pre3, TouchPad, and Veer together in a massive blow out campaign
May 19 20:35:12 <Cerealklr> With just a hint of luck, they'll actually punch through
May 19 20:35:24 <Cerealklr> and earn enough marketshare back to resume growth.
May 19 20:35:32 <SineOt> Yup
May 19 20:35:49 <SineOt> I as also conjecturing about that webOS Slate device that Sprint may or may not get in August
May 19 20:36:04 <SineOt> and why if it does exist, it wasn't announced at the event on Feb 9th
May 19 20:36:11 <Cerealklr> Ideas?
May 19 20:37:27 <Loudergood> maybe they learned about announcing things too far out?
May 19 20:37:37 <SineOt> Well, there's the known codenames Mantaray and Stingray. Nice neat pair. One of them is the Pre3. ERGO. A Pre3 without a keyboard would be a perfect fit for the other code name. ERGO. It would need a good virtual keyboard. ERGO it wasn't announced because a good keyboard would require webOS 3.0, which isn't for phones yet.
May 19 20:38:11 <Loudergood> I wonder about the apps thing sometimes....other than netflix what's missing that's not under development?
May 19 20:38:18 <SineOt> And would be bad news to announce a device running 3.0 when the Pre3 will launch running 2.2
May 19 20:38:50 <Loudergood> and I bet dollars to donuts that netflix is under development
May 19 20:39:28 <Cerealklr> Oh wow
May 19 20:39:32 <Cerealklr> that makes
May 19 20:39:34 <Cerealklr> perfect sense SineOt.
May 19 20:39:36 <Cerealklr> =]
May 19 20:39:42 <SineOt> So... Release it in August, after the Touchpad has been launched and baked for three months, so that the slate ships with 3.0 and the Pre3 can get its upgrade to 3.0
May 19 20:39:42 <Cerealklr> I was actually
May 19 20:39:47 <Cerealklr> wondering as bit earlier about that
May 19 20:39:58 <Cerealklr> mhmm
May 19 20:40:02 <Cerealklr> on the other hand
May 19 20:40:05 <Cerealklr> I'm a bit worried
May 19 20:40:11 <Cerealklr> Apple has really been gearing up for something
May 19 20:40:16 <Cerealklr> from my iFriends
May 19 20:40:26 <Cerealklr> (or whatever else you call Apple Fanatics)
May 19 20:40:32 <Cerealklr> Apparently they've been
May 19 20:40:42 <Cerealklr> blacking out store windows and collecting employees phones.
May 19 20:40:47 <SineOt> someone was talking about it earlier. It's probably going to be the iPhone 5 launching on Sprint, Verizon, and ATT come September
May 19 20:41:02 <Cerealklr> We were chatting and (I hope) it's going to just be
May 19 20:41:07 <Cerealklr> a big update to Mobile.me
May 19 20:41:07 <SineOt> I think that's just a special retail event. Wouldn't make sense to launch something totally new out of the blue like that
May 19 20:41:10 <Cerealklr> to compete w/ DropBox
May 19 20:41:32 <SineOt> Yeah, or the launch of the iTunes cloud service
May 19 20:41:36 <Cerealklr> If that's the case, then I think we can be confident that 3.0 will hold a significant edge in UI for a while
May 19 20:41:39 <preoccupied> Cerealklr: I read the logs a few days back and I saw that you're working on exporting and import texts. How far are you with that?
May 19 20:41:46 <preoccupied> sorry to interrupt
May 19 20:41:50 <Cerealklr> Exporting to json is fully functional
May 19 20:42:03 <Cerealklr> importing has been temporarily stalled, since I don't want to risk my phone
May 19 20:42:06 <Cerealklr> and just got the emulator going today
May 19 20:42:11 <Cerealklr> due to technical difficulties
May 19 20:42:18 <preoccupied> awesome
May 19 20:42:25 <preoccupied> thanks a lot for doing this
May 19 20:42:32 <Cerealklr> My pleasure
May 19 20:42:32 <preoccupied> i'm willing to donate
May 19 20:42:34 <SineOt> Yeah, the Playbook is really half baked
May 19 20:42:50 <Cerealklr> =] I'm glad to hear it, but since I did it in part for my own benefit
May 19 20:43:01 <Cerealklr> I'd hate to go around banging the mug on the bars as it were
May 19 20:43:02 <SineOt> Like, ULTRA half baked
May 19 20:43:05 <Cerealklr> =P
May 19 20:43:14 <Cerealklr> SineOt: Yea, I've already counted BlackBerry out
May 19 20:43:46 <Cerealklr> preoccupied: In a day or two you'll see a new post on the forums about it with the scripts and instructions
May 19 20:43:56 <preoccupied> Cerealklr: Ok. Well let me know if you need help / testing. I'm going out now but will be on later
May 19 20:44:03 <Cerealklr> Sounds great, thanks!
May 19 20:44:41 <Cerealklr> Boy
May 19 20:44:48 <Cerealklr> this has just been a great week for me all in all
May 19 20:45:10 <Cerealklr> Anyway, I'm going to tidy the place up a bit
May 19 20:46:24 <Cerealklr> Father gets home from a month or so of straight work in Oshawa and I'd like to greet him with something that doesn't resemble a pile of debris stacked up to waist height.
May 19 20:47:58 <Cerealklr|Cleani> Wow, the truncation length on nicks
May 19 20:48:03 <Cerealklr|Cleani> is much shorter than I remember it being
May 19 20:57:12 <Cerealklr> Does anyone know offhand how to run multiple instances of the Emulator (e.g. 1.4.5 and 2.1)
May 19 20:57:27 <Cerealklr> I figured it'd leave a VDK around, or something accessible
May 19 20:57:33 <PatrickC> install multiple SDK's iirc
May 19 20:57:41 <Cerealklr> Hrmm, odd
May 19 20:57:51 <Cerealklr> Must just be an artifact of my VirtualBox troubles then
May 19 20:58:03 <Cerealklr> since it removed my previous entries when I tried that
May 19 20:58:10 <PatrickC> What version of VBox?
May 19 20:58:46 <Cerealklr> Well, 4.0 now. I could never get 3.4 fully working (my kernel is too new, and the path other people have used to make them compatible is inexplicably not working for me)
May 19 20:59:19 <NuttyBunny> Cerealklr: it's your machine ;)
May 19 20:59:23 <PatrickC> you run Ubuntu I imaging? :)
May 19 20:59:33 <Cerealklr> NuttyBunny: I know that much, but not why yet! =P
May 19 20:59:37 <Cerealklr> Mhmm, 11.04
May 19 21:00:06 <Cerealklr> IN fact, I may as well try this the old fashioned way
May 19 21:00:13 <Cerealklr> and see if I can just track down the module it wants manually
May 19 21:00:17 <Cerealklr> and install it myself
May 19 21:00:42 <Cerealklr> what's the worst thing that can happen, I destroy install? Again? I'm used to it by this point. =P
May 19 21:01:42 <PatrickC> haha
May 19 21:01:53 <PatrickC> I use windows.. so.. yeah lol
May 19 21:02:16 <Cerealklr> It's the strangest thing
May 19 21:02:22 <Cerealklr> The only distros
May 19 21:02:28 <Cerealklr> that have had this issue significantly
May 19 21:02:34 <Cerealklr> are non-debians
May 19 21:02:54 <Cerealklr> and here I am on Ubuntu which apparently thinks it is FreeBSD
May 19 21:03:27 <Cerealklr> I mean, I know Canonical has been having an identity crisis but I didn't expect that to anthropomorphise my installation...
May 19 21:03:32 <Cerealklr> =P
May 19 21:07:50 <Cerealklr> by the way, while it's on my mind
May 19 21:08:07 <Cerealklr> can anyone confirm that older versions of the SDK will still work in newer versions of VirtualBox
May 19 21:08:13 <Cerealklr> or is my downgrade to 3.4 a permanent one?
May 19 21:09:23 <SineOt> old versions work, but 4.0 breaks the VM install
May 19 21:09:40 <Cerealklr> so the emulator won't work in it?
May 19 21:09:46 <SineOt> it does
May 19 21:09:51 <SineOt> but you just can't install new ones
May 19 21:09:56 <Cerealklr> ohhh
May 19 21:10:00 <Cerealklr> Okay
May 19 21:10:02 <SineOt> the script they're using to install the SDKs doesn't work on 4.0
May 19 21:10:04 <Cerealklr> that's what I was hoping to hear
May 19 21:10:07 <Cerealklr> =]
May 19 21:10:08 <SineOt> but previously installed SDKs work on 4.0
May 19 21:12:03 <lemketron> huh, what?
May 19 21:12:17 <lemketron> The 3.0 beta sdk works with VirtualBox 4.0, so just sign up for "early access" and download 3.0b4
May 19 21:12:34 <Cerealklr> lemketron: Hush. You signed an NDA.
May 19 21:12:35 <SineOt> it does?
May 19 21:12:40 <lemketron> we also posted the 1.4.5 and 2.1 images to the early access area so you can add those after installing the 3.0 sdk, and use all three.
May 19 21:12:41 <Cerealklr> =P
May 19 21:12:44 <NuttyBunny> lemketron: You DO NOT talk about Fight Club!
May 19 21:12:52 <SineOt> lemketron: weren't there a bunch of "don't upgrade to 4.0" stuff?
May 19 21:12:57 <lemketron> Yes, there WERE.
May 19 21:13:02 <Cerealklr> ...
May 19 21:13:09 <SineOt> ooooo~
May 19 21:13:10 <Cerealklr> lemketron: This channel is logged....
May 19 21:13:31 <lemketron> The 2.1 SDK does not work with vb4, but if vb4 (or Ubuntu 11.04) is important to you, you should apply for the early access program.  'nuf said.
May 19 21:13:47 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny: what fight club? :)
May 19 21:13:49 <NuttyBunny> he already did ;)
May 19 21:13:57 <lemketron> Cerealklr: I didn't sign an NDA; I fixed the emulator.
May 19 21:14:14 <Cerealklr> Oh?
May 19 21:14:23 <halfhalo> hah
May 19 21:14:32 <SineOt> spoiler: lemketron works for Palm
May 19 21:14:43 <Cerealklr> Well. I feel sillier than usual.
May 19 21:14:50 <Cerealklr> Sorry about that! =]
May 19 21:14:56 <lemketron> lol.
May 19 21:15:22 <NuttyBunny> still, reminds me of "I didn't sign an NDA, I got the sprint 2.1 webos doctor from an HP link"
May 19 21:16:22 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 21:17:44 <lemketron> Totally unrelated, but cool picture of my LEAF's dashboard showing 105 miles of range left AFTER I drove to work today... http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5737403189/
May 19 21:18:36 <Cerealklr> That is
May 19 21:18:36 <halfhalo> silly people with their silly cars that don't suck down gas like no tomorrow
May 19 21:18:38 <Loudergood> don't lie, you live 4 miles up a mountain road ;)
May 19 21:18:41 <Cerealklr> a gorgeous dashboard
May 19 21:18:44 <Cerealklr> By the way
May 19 21:18:51 <NuttyBunny> Bah, I want to be hugged by a polar bear as well :(
May 19 21:18:52 <Cerealklr> Never seen the inside of a Leaf before
May 19 21:19:00 * halfhalo gets 11mpg
May 19 21:19:13 * Cerealklr is proud of his 18mpg city... =/
May 19 21:19:16 * PatrickC gets 0mpg
May 19 21:19:25 <Loudergood> that's the second picture of the inside of a leaf I've ever seen, oddly the first one was the same car
May 19 21:19:25 <PatrickC> 1 on a good day
May 19 21:19:33 <PatrickC> s/1/20/
May 19 21:19:33 <infobot> PatrickC meant: 20 on a good day
May 19 21:19:35 <lemketron> Wow.  11mpg means it costs you about $.40/mile to drive.  My LEAF costs me pennies per mile.
May 19 21:19:37 <Cerealklr> Don't worry PatrickC, it's still better than NaN mpg
May 19 21:19:41 <lemketron> Unless I charge at work in which case it's free.
May 19 21:20:04 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 21:20:09 <Cerealklr> Heheh, sounds awesome
May 19 21:20:09 <PatrickC> charging station at work?
May 19 21:20:13 <halfhalo> lemketron: yes, but my car goes vroom vroom and makes loud noises
May 19 21:20:21 <lemketron> There's got to be a CD for that...
May 19 21:20:22 <halfhalo> theoretically it gets 22 highway, but meh
May 19 21:20:37 <lemketron> Maybe I can just download an MP3 of car engine noise to play...
May 19 21:20:50 <NuttyBunny> lemketron, you got the version that charges over standard outlets?
May 19 21:21:03 <Cerealklr> You could really confuse people and play an audio track of a Harley instead?
May 19 21:21:04 <Loudergood> lemketron: no doubt someone will soon be selling it pair with a loud speaker to put under the car
May 19 21:21:11 <Cerealklr> xD
May 19 21:21:15 <Cerealklr> You sir are a genius
May 19 21:21:33 <lemketron> Oh, and the webOS Bluetooth (A2DP/AVRCP) integration is pure awesome.  When I get in the car, my phone re-connects, whether it's in my pocket or on the touchstone I mounted in the center console (need to post a picture of that).  And when I turn the car on, whatever I was listening to when I got out of the car just starts playing again.
May 19 21:21:38 <SineOt> Nah, that's going to be required pretty soon!
May 19 21:21:54 <SineOt> Electric cars are way dangerous to pedestrians.
May 19 21:22:07 <lemketron> No, there's an audible warning to let them know...
May 19 21:22:18 <lemketron> and tire squealing and all.
May 19 21:22:18 <Cerealklr> This sounds exciting.
May 19 21:22:30 <Cerealklr> I can't wait for the PDC now
May 19 21:22:39 <Cerealklr> Oops, looks like dinner has arrived.
May 19 21:22:43 <lemketron> It's the future.  Here today.  No tailpipe.  Solar powered even.
May 19 21:22:43 <Cerealklr> Will be back in a bit
May 19 21:22:53 <SineOt> the Leaf has the audible stuff? Thought that wasn't required just yet
May 19 21:22:59 <Cerealklr> Au Revoir!
May 19 21:23:22 <lemketron> Google: nissan leaf pedestrian sound
May 19 21:23:55 <PatrickC> pedestrian sound? haha
May 19 21:24:39 <SineOt> yeah, a prius at low speeds is way quiet
May 19 21:24:43 <halfhalo> lemketron: you going to be at the touchpad events?
May 19 21:26:11 <lemketron> Here's the personalized plate I'm still waiting for (should be here any day now):  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5738154460/
May 19 21:26:38 <PatrickC> haha
May 19 21:27:00 <PatrickC> BBye Oil
May 19 21:27:08 <lemketron> No offense to OIL, of course.
May 19 21:27:23 <PatrickC> :P
May 19 21:28:21 * halfhalo wants to trade up from his gas sucking 03 highlander to a slightly less gas sucking but whole lot more fun to drive 2011+ 5.0L GT mustang convertible
May 19 21:28:46 <PatrickC> why "whole lot more fun to drive"?
May 19 21:29:21 <halfhalo> beeecause its not an suv?  and has handling rivaling the M3?
May 19 21:29:49 <PatrickC> really? awesome!
May 19 21:29:56 <SineOt> that VSP thing is pretty cool, lemketron. didn't know it was on the shipping leafs
May 19 21:30:22 * PatrickC doesn't keep up with foreign  imports 
May 19 21:30:24 <SineOt> my dad got hit by a prius going slow enough that it wasn't making much engine noise, said he couldn't even hear it :C
May 19 21:32:22 <lemketron> We took this one just for fun on our "test drive"... http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5717635569
May 19 21:32:39 <halfhalo> hah
May 19 21:33:01 <PatrickC> lol
May 19 21:41:52 <rwhitby> "where do I stick this?"
May 19 21:48:29 <Vic_Sage> where do I get linphone?
May 19 21:48:55 <NuttyBunny> Please would be nice
May 19 21:49:04 <NuttyBunny> and hi as well
May 19 21:49:08 <Vic_Sage> please
May 19 21:49:16 <Vic_Sage> do I have to sideload it?
May 19 21:49:55 <Vic_Sage> hey nutty
May 19 21:51:26 <Vic_Sage> how well is it working so far?
May 19 21:51:59 <Vic_Sage> anybody home?
May 19 21:52:51 <SineOt> Man, what is with people being way bossy about Linphone lately
May 19 21:53:39 <Vic_Sage> I wasn't being bossy I was just wondering where I could get it and if I had to sideload it
May 19 21:54:32 <Vic_Sage> SineOt: well you can save a lot of money on air-time if you are at home with a voip software
May 19 21:54:49 <halfhalo> Just because you are on the internet does not mean manners are not needed.
May 19 21:54:50 <Vic_Sage> wi-fi calling FTW
May 19 21:54:56 <SineOt> yeah, but there's been a ton of people being bossy about it
May 19 21:55:38 <Vic_Sage> may I please be a beta tester?
May 19 21:56:57 <Vic_Sage> please with sugar on top?
May 19 21:58:59 <halfhalo> if you stick around the people responsible for it will answer that
May 19 22:00:08 <Vic_Sage> ok thanks I just got a palm pixi plus and I was really looking for this app would you know how well it works?
May 19 22:01:42 <Vic_Sage> I was about to get the t-mobile plan with the free wifi calling but the greedy pricks at T-Mobile won't let you use it with pre-paid
May 19 22:03:02 <Vic_Sage> I don't travel enough to really bother with a $40-$50 cellphone plan
May 19 22:04:25 <Vic_Sage> i'd rather pay $80 and get 2000 minutes that I can use over the period of a year
May 19 22:04:50 <NuttyBunny> Does linphone work fine over EDGE?
May 19 22:08:22 <Vic_Sage> I really don't know as I haven't had the opporitunity to try it
May 19 22:09:52 <NuttyBunny> I just say, because the only EDGE network I know and use is Telcel's in Mexico, and it's too slow to be usable
May 19 22:10:24 <Vic_Sage> then I find that to be doubtful
May 19 22:16:05 <Vic_Sage> I was able to skype over dialup before
May 19 22:16:12 <Vic_Sage> so maybe
May 20 00:02:38 <Vic_Sage> anybody on the linphone project here?
May 20 00:02:52 <Vic_Sage> please let me know
May 20 00:19:01 <Ziomatrix> While trying to avoid updating my Pre Plus to v1.4.5.1 it did anyway, however upon looking at device info it still says its v1.4.5 build 171 but my Device Updater seems to be in an infinite loop downloading
May 20 02:31:49 <wingman> is anyone online?
May 20 02:32:20 <Loudergood> yup
May 20 02:32:50 <wingman> cool, this is my first time here and i'm trying to figure this all out
May 20 02:33:37 <wingman> i just installed preware on my verizon pre plus and now want to install uberkernal but its saying that my webos version isn't compatible
May 20 02:33:53 <wingman> I updated to 1.4.5.1 today, is that why it won't work?
May 20 02:33:56 <halfhalo>  its not atm, but will be soon
May 20 02:34:07 <halfhalo> yup, 1.4.5.1 isn't compatible yet.
May 20 02:34:24 <wingman> figures
May 20 02:34:39 <halfhalo> should be really soon though
May 20 02:35:03 <wingman> awesome
May 20 02:35:31 <Loudergood> yeah, looks like rwhitby is quite busy on it
May 20 02:35:39 <Loudergood> http://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals
May 20 02:36:04 <Loudergood> does he ever sleep?
May 20 02:36:26 <halfhalo> australia has 48 hours days, remember?
May 20 02:36:38 <wingman> thats exciting...i would also like to learn how to create apps...any suggestions on where to start?
May 20 02:39:12 <twoboxen> does anyone use an xserver?
May 20 02:39:38 <twoboxen> I would love to get design squeeze w x11
May 20 02:39:54 <Loudergood> what kind of usage are you talking about here?
May 20 02:40:00 <twoboxen> debian
May 20 02:40:09 <twoboxen> certain apps
May 20 02:40:24 <Loudergood> well, I know it's been done...not by me though
May 20 02:40:50 <twoboxen> yeah I have read pieces...  not sure about maturity
May 20 02:42:25 <twoboxen> just looking to get some apps without porting beyond squeeze
May 20 02:42:55 <dwc-> design squeeze?
May 20 02:42:58 <dwc-> oh, debian
May 20 02:43:07 <twoboxen> autocorrect ftl
May 20 02:43:30 <dwc-> what do you mean by get some apps?
May 20 02:43:39 * dwc- hasn't upgraded his debian boxes to squeeze yet
May 20 02:43:52 <twoboxen> also is there a 2.1.0 patch to sort apps alphabetically?
May 20 02:44:18 <dwc-> sort them where?
May 20 02:44:23 <twoboxen> some x11 apps that are already supporting arm
May 20 02:44:31 <twoboxen> in app launcher
May 20 02:44:59 <dwc-> I don't think there's any sort of sorting going on
May 20 02:45:26 <twoboxen> there isn't but I would like it
May 20 02:45:29 <dwc-> you have some x11 apps you want to run in squeeze?
May 20 02:45:50 <twoboxen> there are squeeze apps I want on my pre
May 20 02:45:50 <dwc-> or... apps in squeeze you want to run on your phone?
May 20 02:45:55 <twoboxen> yes
May 20 02:46:12 <twoboxen> all I need is a chroot and x11
May 20 02:46:38 <dwc-> seems like it shouldn't be that difficult
May 20 02:47:10 <twoboxen> I don't think so..  just seeking experience
May 20 02:50:38 <Vic_Sage> anybody know where I can get linphone?
May 20 02:55:01 <dwc-> there appears to be a repository for it http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary
May 20 02:55:34 <dwc-> there was a thread in the forums for who to talk to for binaries, I think
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