**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 26 02:59:57 2011
May 26 09:07:46 <DasLampe> Hey, where i can get a git access, to commit my app and daemon?
May 26 15:13:54 <PatrickC> so my patch seemed to work
May 26 15:14:02 <PatrickC> thanks for testing it everyone
May 26 15:22:38 <PatrickC> Anyone on 1.4.5(.1), visit this thread: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/281287-running-2-x-apps-1-4-5-a.html
May 26 16:41:03 <Audemars02> hey guys...  quick question. is the Veer an ARM6 or ARM7 processor? anyone know?
May 26 16:41:10 <SineOt> Armv7
May 26 16:41:20 <Audemars02> Sine0t: great...thnx!
May 26 16:42:32 <SineOt> Why does everyone assume it's a zero? c_c
May 26 16:44:04 <PatrickC> a zero?
May 26 16:44:18 <PatrickC> hey Audermars02: did you get to try the patch?
May 26 16:44:46 <SineOt> Sine0t !== SineOt
May 26 16:45:37 <halfhalo> lol
May 26 16:45:40 <halfhalo> tabcomplete ftw
May 26 16:46:17 <summatusmentis> proper fonts also
May 26 16:49:40 <Audemars02> PatrickC - on tap for this afternoon.  my Veer has been giving me trouble
May 26 16:49:54 <PatrickC> ok thanks
May 26 16:54:46 <Audemars02> PatrickC: do i run the patch before or after i load up the new app catalog?
May 26 16:55:03 <PatrickC> doesn't matter
May 26 16:55:37 <PatrickC> I thought it did, but it doesnt.. the new app cat installs in media/cryptofs
May 26 16:55:44 <PatrickC> not user/palm/applications
May 26 17:05:54 <Audemars02> PatrickC: patch worked on 1.4.5 phone...   app cat survived reboot. now seeing how well it worked to uninstall
May 26 17:06:38 <Audemars02> SineOt: sorry about the O vs 0 befor
May 26 17:08:19 <Audemars02> PatrickC: i uninstalled the patch, did a reboot (twice).  new app catalog is still there, it did not revert back to old one
May 26 17:08:28 <SineOt> Audemars02: It's fine. I just wonder about people's fonts sometimes XD
May 26 17:08:46 <PatrickC> Audermars02: hmm.. it should have "un-hid" the old one
May 26 17:08:47 <oil> just use "otterpants"
May 26 17:08:59 <PatrickC> try opening the app cat that's visible
May 26 17:09:25 <Audemars02> i did. its the HP logo of the new app catalog AND the gray background one, too
May 26 17:09:38 <PatrickC> weird...
May 26 17:09:42 <PatrickC> is it deletable?
May 26 17:09:55 <Audemars02> yes
May 26 17:09:57 <Audemars02> trying that now
May 26 17:10:07 <Audemars02> rebooting
May 26 17:12:33 <Audemars02> PatrickC: deleted, rebooted, now i have NO app catalog
May 26 17:12:44 <PatrickC> audermars02: I also made a patch that leaves both there
May 26 17:12:54 <PatrickC> hmm.. you have internalz on the device?
May 26 17:13:01 <Audemars02> that would probably be better
May 26 17:13:05 <Audemars02> yes, i have Internalz Pro
May 26 17:13:22 <PatrickC> navigate into /use/palm/applications
May 26 17:13:59 <PatrickC> and look for com.palm.app.findapps
May 26 17:14:03 <PatrickC> or com.palm.findapps
May 26 17:15:35 <PatrickC> are either of those there?
May 26 17:48:37 <MetaView> hi
May 26 17:49:07 <MetaView> need a quick help
May 26 17:49:23 <MetaView> what's the suggested diff command?
May 26 17:49:30 <MetaView> diff -u ???
May 26 18:00:11 <Loudergood> wish I knew, love that new patch though...will try to install it when I get home tonight
May 26 18:02:20 <zandi> i figured out my issue the other day
May 26 18:02:39 <zandi> not sure how much people care about default contacts though, heh
May 26 18:13:22 <SineOt> zandi: what do you mean by default contacts?
May 26 18:14:36 <zandi> as in flash the phones, and there's contacts already in the phone book
May 26 18:18:04 <SineOt> ah
May 26 18:18:52 <Loudergood> actually that has the potential to be very interesting
May 26 18:19:41 <zandi> this crowd probably doesn't care so much about it. might be neat for a custom recovery image or something though
May 26 21:16:19 <kevets> hello, still dealin with my modem that just will not connect - anyone mind looking at a couple screenshots? tried reflashing the modem firmware
May 26 21:16:49 <kevets> phone, sms, wifi all work fine
May 26 21:18:38 <PatrickC> then what doesn't work?
May 26 21:18:53 <kevets> 3G plain old data
May 26 21:19:18 <PatrickC> what device/OS version?
May 26 21:19:19 <kevets> quick test gets me "20 Modem" error
May 26 21:19:30 <kevets> vz Pre Plus meta doctored to 2.1.0
May 26 21:19:45 <PatrickC> try going back to 1.4.5.1?
May 26 21:20:04 <kevets> no 'regular' doctor images ever complete
May 26 21:20:17 <kevets> they always fail like 60% through
May 26 21:20:36 <kevets> when i pull up linux access if i run PmModemUpdater -v I get
May 26 21:20:37 <kevets> Open Port /dev/modemdiag Failed (5=Input/output error)!
May 26 21:20:49 <PatrickC> tried from recovery mode?
May 26 21:20:59 <kevets> in one of the lines... yeah always from recovery mode
May 26 21:21:31 <PatrickC> this might be a little old, but look here: http://www.osattack.com/smartphones/palm-smartphones/palm-webos-error-codes-and-the-palm-eos/
May 26 21:22:04 <PatrickC> "
May 26 21:22:05 <PatrickC> 6.     Run Quick Tests again to see if error occurs
May 26 21:22:06 <PatrickC> account
May 26 21:22:09 <PatrickC> "
May 26 21:22:30 <kevets> fff now its doing the thing where it goes into Emergency Mode
May 26 21:22:42 <PatrickC> Emergency mode????
May 26 21:22:44 <kevets> this happens whenever i go through and actually activate my line on this phone
May 26 21:22:49 <PatrickC> ok.. lets try a memboot
May 26 21:23:05 <PatrickC> well... wait.. no memboot yet
May 26 21:23:05 <kevets> how is that done
May 26 21:23:23 <PatrickC> 1 second
May 26 21:23:41 <PatrickC> I've recovered a totally borked pre2 from memboot.. memboot is amazing
May 26 21:24:30 <NuttyBunny> mmm... but... Verizon...
May 26 21:24:34 <kevets> well this thing is totally borked to me if i cant get the 3G to work... if i cant get it back its goin back on the for sale board
May 26 21:24:41 <NuttyBunny> did you mess around with Diag mode?
May 26 21:24:57 <kevets> ##DATA# menu?
May 26 21:25:10 <PatrickC> Diag mode == Diagnostic Mode?
May 26 21:25:18 <kevets> no i don't think so
May 26 21:25:19 <PatrickC> I didn't know webOS Had one...
May 26 21:25:30 <NuttyBunny> yep, needed for enabling usb passthrough
May 26 21:25:38 <PatrickC> ah
May 26 21:25:56 <kevets> developer mode is enabled, is that what you're talking about?
May 26 21:26:04 <PatrickC> could you fix the modem from memboot?
May 26 21:26:17 <PatrickC> no.. dev mode isn't diag mode :)
May 26 21:26:20 * PatrickC doesn't think it is
May 26 21:26:21 <kevets> kk
May 26 21:26:41 <NuttyBunny> no, two different things
May 26 21:26:43 <kevets> i can get linux access working, but so far what i've tried hasn't done anything
May 26 21:26:48 <zandi> wait, modem error 20? iirc, i was getting that when my data settings were screwed up
May 26 21:27:07 <kevets> zandi: that's what it feels like to me
May 26 21:27:19 <zandi> i didn't investigate very far, i just re-flashed and it worked afterwards
May 26 21:27:26 <kevets> i've done *228 since im on verizon to try and let its programming go, hoping it would stick, but i don't know... no change
May 26 21:27:29 <zandi> but yeah, i'd double-check the settings in ##DATA#
May 26 21:27:32 <zandi> hm
May 26 21:27:47 <kevets> how do i know what the right settings are?
May 26 21:28:19 <NuttyBunny> kevets: I'd do the modem reflash thing until it works (and check the errors that popup)
May 26 21:28:22 <zandi> i'm sure they're online somewhere.
May 26 21:29:55 <kevets> ok so i have my 2.1.0 metadoctor image
May 26 21:30:02 <kevets> and i've pulled the castlecdmafw.tar out of it
May 26 21:30:11 <Loudergood> so....have you made a new image yet?
May 26 21:30:24 <kevets> yeah have a good one i just reflashed to earlier
May 26 21:30:35 <kevets> built using the verizon pre plus meta script
May 26 21:30:39 <NuttyBunny> you just need the castlecdmafw
May 26 21:30:40 <NuttyBunny> .tar
May 26 21:30:49 <kevets> ok i got that and threw it on the phone
May 26 21:30:49 <NuttyBunny> and memboot your Pre
May 26 21:31:13 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny: don't you need the uImage to memboot?
May 26 21:31:16 <kevets> ok do i need to boot linux? or can i use the nova terminal program to get it
May 26 21:31:22 <kevets> on my laptop
May 26 21:31:36 <NuttyBunny> PatrickC: yes, the uImage that's in resources/webOS, sorry
May 26 21:31:50 <PatrickC> kevets: novacom boot mem:// < kernel.uImage
May 26 21:31:59 <PatrickC> kevets: windows?
May 26 21:32:01 <kevets> ok i haven't done that yet...
May 26 21:32:03 <kevets> yea win7
May 26 21:32:05 <PatrickC> ok
May 26 21:32:21 <PatrickC> extract the uImage from resources/webOS in the doctor
May 26 21:32:34 <kevets> k
May 26 21:32:44 * PatrickC has membooted his Pre2 many a times :)
May 26 21:32:51 <kevets> i see nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 21:32:54 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny knows all about it :P
May 26 21:32:55 <kevets> thats it right
May 26 21:32:55 <PatrickC> yes
May 26 21:32:59 <PatrickC> extract it
May 26 21:33:12 <kevets> ok got that
May 26 21:33:15 <PatrickC> now
May 26 21:33:23 <PatrickC> open up a command prompt
May 26 21:33:31 <PatrickC> just a regular cmd prompt
May 26 21:33:46 <PatrickC> and cd into the directory that has the iMage that you just ectracted
May 26 21:33:48 <PatrickC> uImage*
May 26 21:34:01 * PatrickC says "Dang you Auto Correct"
May 26 21:34:04 <kevets> k
May 26 21:34:08 <kevets> got that up
May 26 21:34:21 <PatrickC> now.. are you in the directory with the uImage?
May 26 21:34:27 <kevets> yeah
May 26 21:34:42 <PatrickC> type
May 26 21:34:55 <PatrickC> novacom boot mem:// < kernel.uImage
May 26 21:35:07 <PatrickC> but "kernel.uImage" is the full uImage name
May 26 21:35:23 <PatrickC> wait!!
May 26 21:35:24 <PatrickC> before we do that command
May 26 21:35:32 <PatrickC> go into recovery mode first
May 26 21:35:34 <kevets> what is novacom? i have a novaterm.exe
May 26 21:35:44 <PatrickC> nope
May 26 21:35:47 <NuttyBunny> use novacom :)
May 26 21:35:47 <kevets> when i just run novacom its not recognized
May 26 21:35:55 <PatrickC> just type exactly what I said :)
May 26 21:36:01 <PatrickC> you must be in recovery mode
May 26 21:36:14 <NuttyBunny> kevets: did you reboot after installing the sdk?
May 26 21:36:26 <kevets> i might just have the drivers
May 26 21:36:34 <kevets> might not have the full sdk on here...
May 26 21:36:38 <kevets> that could be it
May 26 21:36:39 <PatrickC> you have the latest SDK?
May 26 21:36:41 <PatrickC> you need it
May 26 21:37:09 <kevets> ok searching
May 26 21:38:35 <kevets> https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/sdk_pdk_download.html
May 26 21:38:36 <kevets> this?
May 26 21:38:47 <zandi> probably
May 26 21:39:00 <NuttyBunny> yup, just the sdk
May 26 21:40:01 <kevets> i can skip the virtualbox stuff right
May 26 21:40:20 <SineOt> yup
May 26 21:40:28 <kevets> gettin the sdk now... yeah i definitely didn't have this before
May 26 21:40:52 <NuttyBunny> https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/2.1.0.519/sdkBinaries/Palm_webOS_SDK-Win-2.1.0-519-x86.exe
May 26 21:41:13 <kevets> yep thats what i got
May 26 21:41:16 <kevets> *getting
May 26 21:41:19 <Loudergood> stay here a little longer and PatrickC will talk you into writing an app ;)
May 26 21:41:28 <NuttyBunny> LOL
May 26 21:42:16 <kevets> hey if he can get my phone to work i'd do damn near anything ha
May 26 21:42:42 <kevets> my wife thinks i bought a $60 paperweight off craigslist
May 26 21:42:45 <PatrickC> lol
May 26 21:43:11 <PatrickC> hahaha
May 26 21:43:25 <PatrickC> kevets: sorry, I gotta go.. I gotta mow the lawn
May 26 21:43:45 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny taught me how to memboot (multiple times :) so I'm sure he can help you :)
May 26 21:43:47 <kevets> i'll try that command from earlier up there
May 26 21:44:12 <kevets> thanks for the help
May 26 21:44:16 <PatrickC> no prob
May 26 21:44:23 <PatrickC> let me know if you get it :)
May 26 21:44:24 <NuttyBunny> we have 15 minutes till my boss comes and... starts bossing around
May 26 21:44:37 <PatrickC> and.. if in doubt, ask NuttyBunny :P
May 26 21:44:38 <kevets> oh for sure... installing sdk now
May 26 21:44:54 <PatrickC> installing already? what dl speed do you have?
May 26 21:45:15 <NuttyBunny> reboot after installing the sdk to make sure you can find the novacom executable
May 26 21:45:20 <kevets> cable modem at my client site... pulled 1.5Mbps lol
May 26 21:45:24 <kevets> kk
May 26 21:45:26 <PatrickC> lol
May 26 21:45:33 <PatrickC> I have 3mbps
May 26 21:45:38 <PatrickC> oops
May 26 21:45:44 <PatrickC> ok, bye
May 26 21:45:45 <PatrickC> bbl
May 26 21:45:47 <NuttyBunny> ok.. they plugged his cable ;)
May 26 21:45:53 <PatrickC> haha
May 26 21:46:01 <zandi> lol
May 26 21:47:33 <NuttyBunny> hey, rebooted already?
May 26 21:47:34 <kevets> nice... novacom is there
May 26 21:47:44 <kevets> yea i work fast :)
May 26 21:48:03 <kevets> ok so the phone needs to be in recovery mode yes?
May 26 21:48:11 <NuttyBunny> yep, you know how, don't you?
May 26 21:48:18 <kevets> yea lol
May 26 21:48:32 <NuttyBunny> perfect. You can use the "x" key instead of the volume up btw
May 26 21:48:42 <kevets> ah i didn't know that trick
May 26 21:49:10 <NuttyBunny> now, cmd window, and cd to the directory where the nova-installer-image-castle.uImage file is
May 26 21:49:13 <kevets> ok recovery mode
May 26 21:49:15 <kevets> on
May 26 21:49:28 <NuttyBunny> then type novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 21:50:08 <NuttyBunny> is should change the logo to the hp one (or palm, or penguin), depending on what you used to doctor it
May 26 21:50:41 <kevets> ok waiting
May 26 21:50:45 <NuttyBunny> now, what modem version are we going to flash?
May 26 21:50:50 <NuttyBunny> the latest?
May 26 21:50:55 <oc80z> hmm
May 26 21:51:06 <kevets> i don't know... i have the castlecdmafw.tar from the 2.1.0 meta image
May 26 21:51:19 <kevets> and the oen i pulled from the verizon 1.4.5.1 doctor image
May 26 21:51:27 <kevets> its taking some time
May 26 21:51:36 <NuttyBunny> what version is your Pre on right now?
May 26 21:51:43 <kevets> 2.1.0 metadoctor
May 26 21:51:49 <NuttyBunny> ok, then we'll try that
May 26 21:52:07 <NuttyBunny> ah, it's in the same place, cool, type:
May 26 21:52:25 <NuttyBunny> novacom put file://tmp/castlecdmafw.tar < castlecdmafw.tar
May 26 21:52:43 <NuttyBunny> castlecdmafw.tar should be in the same directory as nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 21:53:10 <kevets> will do... my first novacom command hasnt finished... still have the recovery mode screen on the pre
May 26 21:53:23 <NuttyBunny> that's not good
May 26 21:53:30 <NuttyBunny> it should take no more than 10 seconds
May 26 21:53:37 <NuttyBunny> open another cmd window
May 26 21:53:48 <kevets> i had to type novacom boot mem://<nova-installer-image-castle.uImage to get it to take
May 26 21:53:58 <kevets> but its taking longer than expected
May 26 21:54:27 <kevets> should i try the put command
May 26 21:54:27 <NuttyBunny> open novaterm
May 26 21:54:39 <NuttyBunny> no, not yet
May 26 21:54:41 <NuttyBunny> open novaterm
May 26 21:54:48 <NuttyBunny> give it a couple of enters
May 26 21:55:05 <NuttyBunny> does it show "root@palm-webos" or just "]" ?
May 26 21:55:11 <kevets> its doing the bracket thing
May 26 21:55:22 <kevets> i tried this before in recovery mode with novaterm and it was doing this
May 26 21:55:28 <NuttyBunny> yep
May 26 21:55:33 <oc80z> eh
May 26 21:55:34 <kevets> when i boot it normally it connects like normal
May 26 21:55:42 <NuttyBunny> press ctrl-C on the other window, on the novacom one
May 26 21:55:49 <NuttyBunny> see if it stops
May 26 21:55:52 <kevets> oh
May 26 21:55:53 <kevets> yeah
May 26 21:55:55 <kevets> penguin logo now
May 26 21:56:05 <kevets> after pressing ctrl+c
May 26 21:56:21 <NuttyBunny> weird..
May 26 21:56:28 <kevets> novaterm says parse_uimage:231: uimage 0x84000000
May 26 21:56:57 <NuttyBunny> yeah, it always says that when it boots...
May 26 21:57:08 <NuttyBunny> ok, novaterm should have disconnected you
May 26 21:57:22 <kevets> i just closed it
May 26 21:57:37 <NuttyBunny> ok, open it again
May 26 21:57:54 <NuttyBunny> you should get the root@palm-webos# prompt
May 26 21:58:29 <NuttyBunny> if you don't, and it shows the activation screen, we did something wrong :)
May 26 21:58:49 <kevets> i hit connect... but it hasn't given me a prompt yet
May 26 21:58:58 <kevets> penguin logo is still up
May 26 21:59:13 <kevets> ] brackets when i press enter
May 26 21:59:18 <NuttyBunny> aah
May 26 21:59:18 <NuttyBunny> ok
May 26 21:59:23 <NuttyBunny> good
May 26 21:59:30 <NuttyBunny> it didn't boot properly :)
May 26 21:59:39 <kevets> figures
May 26 21:59:53 <NuttyBunny> type again: novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 22:00:05 <kevets> does it matter if novaterm is up?
May 26 22:00:08 <NuttyBunny> no..
May 26 22:00:09 <NuttyBunny> wait
May 26 22:00:45 <NuttyBunny> what is this? a Pre+ or a Pre2?
May 26 22:01:08 <kevets> Pre+
May 26 22:01:49 <NuttyBunny> ok, do it again, novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 22:01:53 <NuttyBunny> leave novaterm open
May 26 22:01:59 <NuttyBunny> you'll see things there
May 26 22:02:35 <NuttyBunny> you should see: device_command_rx:489: got request: verb 'boot', url 'mem://', argc 0
May 26 22:02:39 <kevets> k i see it says device_command_rx and then some more stuff
May 26 22:02:54 <NuttyBunny> the last is something like parse_uimage:231: uimage 0x84241368 ?
May 26 22:03:11 <NuttyBunny> and then it disconnected novaterm? (like mine just did)
May 26 22:03:14 <kevets> mine says 'mem://<nova-installer-image-castle.uImage', argc 0
May 26 22:03:27 <NuttyBunny> ah, no, bad
May 26 22:03:33 <NuttyBunny> spaces
May 26 22:03:38 <kevets> ok let me try that again
May 26 22:03:50 <NuttyBunny> space between the // and the < and the novablabla
May 26 22:03:59 <NuttyBunny> novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-castle.uImage
May 26 22:04:12 <kevets> its giving me crap about the < operator is reserved for future use
May 26 22:04:28 <kevets> hmm
May 26 22:04:35 <NuttyBunny> wtf? what are you using?? win 7 you said?
May 26 22:05:05 <kevets> yeah win 7 64 bit..  let me try it another way
May 26 22:05:19 <kevets> i have a habit of using powershell as a cmd prompt
May 26 22:05:25 <NuttyBunny> aaaahh
May 26 22:05:39 <NuttyBunny> that might be the culprit
May 26 22:06:17 <kevets> ok i ran it that time with spaces and it accepted it
May 26 22:06:34 <kevets> novaterm disconnected... gonna try reconnecting with novaterm now
May 26 22:06:49 <kevets> sweet
May 26 22:06:53 <kevets> i r teh root
May 26 22:06:56 <NuttyBunny> perfect
May 26 22:07:19 <NuttyBunny> now, in your cmd window: novacom put file://tmp/castlecdmafw.tar < castlecdmafw.tar
May 26 22:07:36 <NuttyBunny> and in novaterm : ls /tmp
May 26 22:07:45 <NuttyBunny> it should show you a castlecdmafw.tar file
May 26 22:08:08 <kevets> sweet
May 26 22:08:11 <kevets> yeah its there now
May 26 22:08:33 <NuttyBunny> ok, now, FTW... in novaterm type: PmModemUpdater -v
May 26 22:08:46 <NuttyBunny> it should say: Powering-on Modem before flashing.Wait for modem to boot-up...
May 26 22:08:52 <NuttyBunny> then a bunch of things
May 26 22:09:08 <NuttyBunny> if it doesn't, then we can't talk to the modem for some stupid reason
May 26 22:09:20 <kevets> yeah its working
May 26 22:09:35 <kevets> ok yeah looks like it worked
May 26 22:09:44 <NuttyBunny> Modem Firmware Info, does it show stuff?
May 26 22:09:48 <kevets> Acquired exclusive access to port /dev/modemdiag woot woot
May 26 22:09:56 <kevets> yeah
May 26 22:10:01 <NuttyBunny> excellent!
May 26 22:10:52 <NuttyBunny> ok, try the following:
May 26 22:10:57 <kevets> time to flash it now?
May 26 22:11:02 <NuttyBunny> yup
May 26 22:11:42 <NuttyBunny> PmModemUpdater < /tmp/castlecdmafw.tar  -f
May 26 22:11:45 <kevets> and this time maybe it will stick since its rooted... nice
May 26 22:11:46 <kevets> k
May 26 22:12:43 <kevets> ok it stopped at the same place it always stops when I use -f
May 26 22:12:53 <kevets> Start reading NV item from modem . . . .  0531
May 26 22:12:55 <NuttyBunny> which is?
May 26 22:13:04 <kevets> and its stuck
May 26 22:13:34 <NuttyBunny> ok, lemme do it here as well to see where is that
May 26 22:14:12 <NuttyBunny> ok, mine is stuck at Creating temp file
May 26 22:14:14 <NuttyBunny> argh
May 26 22:14:27 <kevets> booting it up like this puts it in rescue mode right?
May 26 22:14:32 <NuttyBunny> yep
May 26 22:14:37 <kevets> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Research_Pre_GSM_Modem
May 26 22:15:08 <kevets> i had gotten it to run through using -m before...
May 26 22:15:18 <kevets> looks like -s forces it to be flashed in rescue mode
May 26 22:15:46 <NuttyBunny> ah, yes
May 26 22:16:27 <NuttyBunny> grr.r... mine doesn't go past creating temp file.. hold on
May 26 22:16:44 <kevets> i just didn't know how to get it to boot into this mode before.
May 26 22:17:02 <kevets> i got that one as well at some point
May 26 22:17:21 <NuttyBunny> the -s has two "xx xx" parameters, wonder what those mean
May 26 22:17:29 <kevets> yeah i don't really get that
May 26 22:18:25 <pxpls> test, test, can you read me?
May 26 22:18:32 <NuttyBunny> pxpls yes
May 26 22:18:33 <kevets> howdy
May 26 22:18:48 <pxpls> yeah, hey
May 26 22:18:54 <pxpls> finally made it
May 26 22:18:58 <kevets> i think i will try -s
May 26 22:19:10 <kevets> do you think i should re boot the phone first
May 26 22:19:27 <kevets> im still root@palm-webos
May 26 22:19:33 <NuttyBunny> kevets: This one is flashing nicely.
May 26 22:19:42 <kevets> what command?
May 26 22:19:51 <NuttyBunny> Did you press ctrlC or you just closed the novaterm?
May 26 22:20:14 <kevets> i closed novaterm and reopened it
May 26 22:20:29 <NuttyBunny> I cd first to /tmp and then used: PmModemUpdater <castleumts.tar -f
May 26 22:20:38 <NuttyBunny> type:  ps ax
May 26 22:20:50 <NuttyBunny> it may be there, running, the PmmodemUpdater
May 26 22:21:10 <kevets> nope not seeing it
May 26 22:21:38 <NuttyBunny> Firmware Flashing Time: 2 Minutes: 50 Seconds
May 26 22:22:24 <NuttyBunny> ok. You said -v worked?
May 26 22:22:50 <kevets> ehh it said the modem was in download mode when i did it this time
May 26 22:23:00 <kevets> im thinking i should start over
May 26 22:23:05 <NuttyBunny> mmm.. yep
May 26 22:23:44 <zandi> wait, what? no way does it only take 2 minutes to flash a phone's firmware
May 26 22:23:57 <zandi> wait, modem firmware? that's possible. just caught up on the reading, heh.
May 26 22:24:03 <NuttyBunny> zandi: almost 3 minutes, MODEM firmware :D
May 26 22:24:07 <zandi> right
May 26 22:24:19 <NuttyBunny> Add another 6-8 minutes for the filesystem
May 26 22:24:24 <zandi> i was about to say, my pre isn't quick about flashing or rebooting
May 26 22:24:32 <NuttyBunny> and other 5 minutes for the first boot (stupid Doctor) hahahaha
May 26 22:25:53 <kevets> ok im back to root... just put the castlecdmafw.tar file back
May 26 22:26:04 <NuttyBunny> kevets: you *may* have a corrupted modem NVRAM.... I just did a -b and it worked past the 0531 you got there
May 26 22:26:32 <kevets> i think i might also
May 26 22:26:37 <NuttyBunny> mmm... let's see...
May 26 22:26:41 <kevets> still showing Modem In Download MODE
May 26 22:26:43 <kevets> grr
May 26 22:26:53 <NuttyBunny> you have to pull cable and battery
May 26 22:26:57 <NuttyBunny> start again
May 26 22:27:11 <kevets> i did that just now though
May 26 22:27:20 <kevets> that's after pulling cable and battery
May 26 22:27:24 <kevets> weird
May 26 22:27:39 <NuttyBunny> pff.. and how the hell we'll take the modem out from download mode???
May 26 22:27:47 <kevets> lets see
May 26 22:28:19 <kevets> ill try it one more time
May 26 22:28:24 <NuttyBunny> because I just found something interesting
May 26 22:29:49 <NuttyBunny> I think your filesystem should have a usr/lib/modem/palm_nv_items.txt file, with a basic nvram information
May 26 22:30:14 <NuttyBunny> with -b it backs up the nvram info in /var/lib/modem/palm_nv_backup.txt
May 26 22:30:31 <kevets> damnit... yeah now im getting Open Port /dev/modemdiag Failed (5=Input/output error)!
May 26 22:30:37 <kevets> and modem in download mode stuffs
May 26 22:31:07 <kevets> my /var/lib/modem is empty... ehh
May 26 22:31:46 <kevets> i sure could use a nvram file for a vz pre plus
May 26 22:34:08 <kevets> trying to understand this http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
May 26 22:34:31 <NuttyBunny> no, that's for booting, your Pre does boot
May 26 22:34:39 <kevets> ohh
May 26 22:40:32 <kevets> well damn - i have to get out of here soon. is this thing hosed?
May 26 22:41:05 <NuttyBunny> nah, I don't think so
May 26 22:41:11 <NuttyBunny> but look at the PmLinuxModemCmd command
May 26 22:41:47 <kevets> k
May 26 22:45:00 <kevets> hmm... PmLinuxModemCmd not found
May 26 22:46:50 <NuttyBunny> lemme see where it is
May 26 22:48:08 <kevets> its not in /usr/bin on my image
May 26 22:48:49 <NuttyBunny> not here as well, not on the rootfs either..
May 26 22:48:50 <NuttyBunny> damn
May 26 22:49:18 <NuttyBunny> that's not good at all
May 26 22:49:40 <NuttyBunny> maybe they took it off from the 2.1 images?
May 26 22:50:25 * NuttyBunny extracts a 1.4.5 doctor
May 26 22:50:27 <kevets> could be... welp time to activate the blackberry again so i have a phone lol
May 26 22:53:02 <PatrickC> kevets: still working on it?
May 26 22:53:45 <kevets> lol... yeah i think my NVRAMs are corrupted / missing
May 26 22:54:22 <kevets> PmModemUpdate -v doesnt work no more, shows Open Port /dev/modemdiag Failed (5=Input/output error)!
May 26 22:55:32 <kevets> taking a shot at a 1.4.5.1 doctor now to see what files that gives me.
May 26 22:57:54 <NuttyBunny> ./usr/bin/PmLinuxModemCmd , 1.4.5 :S
May 26 22:58:04 <kevets> ahhh
May 26 22:58:11 <kevets> maybe if this sticks it'll be in this image
May 26 22:58:23 <kevets> 46%
May 26 22:59:07 <kevets> does it matter what version the nova-installer-image-castle.uImage is from?
May 26 22:59:30 <NuttyBunny> it should not depend
May 26 23:00:28 <kevets> ok stopped at 64% just like always lol
May 26 23:00:47 <PatrickC> what did it error out on?
May 26 23:00:55 <PatrickC> pastebin please :)
May 26 23:00:59 <kevets> that was the 1.4.5.1 webos doctor
May 26 23:02:26 <kevets> here are the last bits  http://pastebin.com/328ztKqH
May 26 23:04:13 <NuttyBunny> Open Port /dev/tts/modemdiag Failed!
May 26 23:04:15 <NuttyBunny> not good
May 26 23:04:22 <NuttyBunny> gotta go
May 26 23:04:32 <NuttyBunny> I may be here in a couple of hours
May 26 23:05:54 <kevets>  yeah man thanks for trying
May 26 23:06:26 <NuttyBunny> Ah! I do have a CDMA Pre, I'll poke  it later
May 26 23:06:30 <NuttyBunny> cya!
May 26 23:47:37 <zinge> is rsh available through optware?
May 26 23:53:02 <rwhitby> no, but ssh is
May 27 00:01:09 <zinge> Hmm... I need to use rsh and can't set up keys to do ssh without a password. oh well, thanks.
May 27 00:10:11 <Cerealklr> Anyone else here in Fight Club and completed the tutorial?
May 27 00:14:23 <oil> the first rule of fightclub...
May 27 00:14:37 <Cerealklr> I said nothing.
May 27 00:14:38 <halfhalo> bring a gun to a knife fight
May 27 00:14:47 <Cerealklr> ^^^
May 27 00:15:09 <Cerealklr> I'm having a rather tricky issue with chromes rather ludicrous security policy
May 27 00:15:24 <Cerealklr> and was wondering if anyone else had gotten through it
May 27 00:18:12 <rwhitby> Cerealklr: you mean the stylematters one?
May 27 00:18:32 <Cerealklr> FeedReader
May 27 00:18:44 <Cerealklr> and its one of those always-fun Access COntrol Allow Origin issues
May 27 00:18:54 <Cerealklr> can't work without being allowed to access local files
May 27 00:19:02 <Cerealklr> won't access external files if it can access local ones
May 27 00:19:03 <oil> you just need to launch chrome with a special flag
May 27 00:19:13 <Cerealklr> I did. It prevents external file access.
May 27 00:19:19 <oil> search the forums for your error
May 27 00:19:24 <Cerealklr> which the tutorial depends upon
May 27 00:19:28 <Cerealklr> searching hasn't turned anything up yet
May 27 00:19:33 <halfhalo> completely close chrome, then launch with the special flag
May 27 00:19:36 <Cerealklr> guess I'll start searching snippets of error code
May 27 00:19:40 <Cerealklr> I know, I did
May 27 00:19:42 <Cerealklr> the docs wouldn't even display
May 27 00:19:46 <Cerealklr> until I got the flag working
May 27 00:19:52 <Cerealklr> but once the flag is in action, it won't let local files access external ones
May 27 00:43:15 <Cerealklr> eh, got it
May 27 00:43:19 <Cerealklr> for any and all interested
May 27 00:43:23 <Cerealklr> use the flags
May 27 00:43:34 <Cerealklr> --allow-file-access-from-files --disable-web-security
May 27 00:43:39 <Cerealklr> and for the love of goodness
May 27 00:43:47 <Cerealklr> be careful about browsing
May 27 00:43:58 <Cerealklr> since Chrome won't let you turn off a single security policy apparently -.-
May 27 00:44:08 <Cerealklr> the issue is known to effect chromium, I havn't tested chrome
May 27 00:54:01 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I need help
May 27 00:54:27 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> how do I get linphone 1.9 ipk??
May 27 00:55:26 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I hear they have builds made especially for pixis as well??
May 27 00:56:54 <rwhitby> Vic_Sage-TheQues: what device and SIP provider?
May 27 00:57:10 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> palm pixi plus
May 27 00:57:14 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> sipgate
May 27 00:58:30 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> mine is stuck on waiting for the service to come up
May 27 01:04:21 <rwhitby> there are no 0.1.9 ipks available yet.
May 27 01:04:36 <rwhitby> if there were, they would follow the same URL scheme as the 0.1.8 ipks
May 27 01:06:33 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> well did I configure it wrong or something?
May 27 01:06:49 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I have it configged and working on my lapyop
May 27 01:08:05 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> on my laptop I have it marked sip:sipid
May 27 01:08:32 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I got it to register once but I didn't hear anything
May 27 01:08:49 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> when I went to place a call
May 27 01:09:54 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> how well does the pixi run webos 2.1??
May 27 01:11:29 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> rwhitby??
May 27 01:15:14 <Loudergood> that's NuttyBunny's dept
May 27 01:23:20 <PatrickC> Vic_Sage-TheQues: what carrier?
May 27 01:23:55 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> it is a verizon palm pixi plus setup on page plus
May 27 01:24:15 <PatrickC> 2.1 would kill your modem right now
May 27 01:24:24 <PatrickC> me and NuttyBunny are working on fixing that
May 27 01:25:06 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> i'm ok with 1.4.5 atm i'd really just like to get voip capabilities
May 27 01:25:25 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> right now I am pretty much using my phone as a beeper
May 27 01:25:50 <PatrickC> activate it?
May 27 01:25:55 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> people call me I call them back on google phone
May 27 01:26:22 <PatrickC> use Voogle
May 27 01:26:41 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I am out of minutes it is activated on page plus
May 27 01:26:51 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> voogle is not a voip
May 27 01:27:01 <PatrickC> Voogle is Google Voice iirc
May 27 01:27:07 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> all calls are routed through the network
May 27 01:27:25 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I wanna use my wifi connection
May 27 01:27:42 <Loudergood> that reminds me
May 27 01:27:51 <PatrickC> Voogle routes through the network?
May 27 01:27:52 <Loudergood> I need to give mine more money
May 27 01:28:22 <PatrickC> your what?
May 27 01:29:06 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> yeah voogle routes through your phone service and uses your minutes
May 27 01:29:28 <Loudergood> my phone, I'm on page plus too
May 27 01:29:30 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> when i'm home i'd prefer to keep my minutes
May 27 01:30:41 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I have linphone on my comp configged and working with the same settings this is ticking me off
May 27 01:31:29 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> damn you waiting for service to come up arrgh
May 27 01:31:36 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> lol
May 27 01:35:50 <rwhitby> Vic_Sage-TheQues: I am not the linphone developer
May 27 01:36:41 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I know i'm just venting don't mind me :)
May 27 01:37:41 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> does google or skype have sip settings?
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