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May 30 03:45:20 <freezex> samba can't startup,is there something wrong with the etc/event.d/ file?   http://code.bulix.org/7sjtjm-79959
May 30 13:14:30 <ice8lue> hey guys
May 30 16:12:31 <lordbah> Made a Sprint FrankenPre2 - thanks for the instructions.
May 30 16:13:13 <lordbah> Unfortunately I can't get openssh to work. Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
May 30 16:20:05 <NuttyBunny> what are you trying to do? openssh is the client, and runs on your Pre
May 30 16:21:18 <lordbah> ssh from ubuntu to get an interactive shell on my pre
May 30 16:22:16 <NuttyBunny> mmm... ok, from what I remember, you have to install opensshd (openssh-server) or something like that on your Pre, then put your public key inside your Pre so it recognizes you
May 30 16:22:58 <NuttyBunny> Of course, I may be completely mistaken as I've never actually done it :)
May 30 16:24:00 <lordbah> The OpenSSH package in preware says it is a server as well as client. When I use novacom to get in I can see sshd running. So I believe the server is there. Followed wiki instructions to generate keys from webos.
May 30 16:26:07 <m0ngr31> i'm trying to chroot into a debian img, and I can get into it, but when i exit it, i can't un mount everything so I have to restart the phone completely if i want to chroot into it again
May 30 16:26:24 <m0ngr31> has anyone seen that before?
May 30 17:04:47 <lordbah> /etc/hostname says "palm-webos" but uname -a returns "Jeff Van Epps' Palm Pre" (which is also seen in the shell prompt, in generated ssh keys, etc.). Where is it setting this / how can I change it?
May 30 17:08:50 <IGNTNUNLMTD> In the Settings app called "Device Info"
May 30 17:09:31 <IGNTNUNLMTD> lordbah, it's the first field in that app (called "Name")
May 30 17:10:34 <lordbah> @IGNTNUNLMTD Thanks. Quirky, it insists I begin with a capital letter and won't lower-case it with backspace.
May 30 17:10:46 <IGNTNUNLMTD> strange
May 30 17:11:14 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Same with mine.
May 30 17:11:38 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Not sure why it forces that, but there's probably some logical reason.
May 30 17:12:27 <lordbah> Probably not the cause of my openssh issue but at least I no longer have a hostname with embedded spaces and a single quote.
May 30 17:21:44 <m0ngr31> you can get around that by inserting a space before you begin typing, which will give you a lowercase letter, then backspsace to the beginning
May 30 17:31:14 <IGNTNUNLMTD> m0ngr31: Good to know.
May 30 17:31:21 <lordbah> Additional symptom (beyond permission denied for ssh): Terminal and Terminus just stare at me with black screens, no command prompt.
May 30 17:33:47 <m0ngr31> try sdlterminal
May 30 17:34:32 <lordbah> Didn't install. Preware looks like it downloads it all but just sits there spinning forever. Tried 3 times last night.
May 30 17:37:50 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I have the same issues with Terminal and Terminus on 2.1
May 30 17:38:03 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I think those issues are universal on 2.1
May 30 17:38:31 <m0ngr31> yeah, they have a zip file on the forums that has an installable version of sdlterminal
May 30 17:38:47 <m0ngr31> i had to send it to my self over an email and install it 2x before it worked for me
May 30 17:39:14 <m0ngr31> or you could just usb into your computer and use novaterm
May 30 17:40:16 <lordbah> Requires moving the cable from the Touchstone. Or buying a new USB cable I suppose.
May 30 17:40:34 <m0ngr31> lol
May 30 17:42:45 <IGNTNUNLMTD> lordbah: that's exactly how I feel about cables, lol
May 30 17:43:51 <m0ngr31> i guess i'm lucky enough to have gone through 5-6 pres so i have a ton of cables
May 30 17:50:45 <nomad84> hello
May 30 17:52:11 <nomad84> I'm looking for some assistance regarding to this issue: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/244474-screen-800mhz-screen-off-500mhz-uber-kernel-3rd-generation-overclocking-55.html#post2972433
May 30 17:52:23 <nomad84> am I at the good place?
May 30 18:35:03 <lordbah> m0ngr31: The SDLTerminal zip installed and works no 2.1.0. Wonder what's wrong with the version in Preware.
May 30 18:42:10 <m0ngr31> lordbah: yeah, i don't know. i tried it on 3 pres, but it wouldn't ever install
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May 30 19:45:19 <bnceo> nomad84: it's memorial day for us Americans
May 30 19:45:26 <bnceo> we out BBQing or at the pool
May 30 19:45:28 <bnceo> so yes, good place
May 30 19:45:59 <bnceo> but some of us are enjoying the holiday =)
May 30 20:02:07 <IGNTNUNLMTD> memorial day, but at the same time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI
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May 31 08:44:42 <swisstomcat> morning
May 31 09:26:37 <Judas-C> ok I have stupid question
May 31 09:27:50 <Judas-C> the /media/cryptofs is completely empty on my pre
May 31 09:28:27 <Judas-C> isn't it supposed to be full of fies of all the apps I have installed
May 31 09:52:52 <Judas-C> hi everyone
May 31 09:53:34 <Judas-C> or anyone who is alive an kicking
May 31 09:54:28 <ka6sox-home> dead and asleep..you woke me up.
May 31 09:54:39 <Judas-C> good
May 31 09:54:55 <Judas-C>  what is supposed to be in the /media/cryptofs directory
May 31 09:55:22 <Judas-C> everything in that dir is now missing
May 31 09:56:01 <ka6sox-home> I"d have to fire up my pre...its charging now.
May 31 09:56:14 <Judas-C> ok
May 31 09:56:26 <ka6sox-home> and says "not yet"
May 31 09:56:33 <Judas-C> I'm wondering if it only shows up in devmode
May 31 10:05:07 <Judas-C> this is why I asked
May 31 10:05:48 <Judas-C> Send file "input.config" and "config" to;
May 31 10:20:09 <cryptk> I don't think /media/cryptofs will show up if the device is in USB mode
May 31 10:20:12 <cryptk> should show in devmode though
May 31 10:21:29 <Judas-C> well I turned on devmode and the dir is still empty
May 31 10:22:29 <Judas-C> any other place they have the third party apps dir at
May 31 10:23:24 <Judas-C> been looking everywhere
May 31 10:25:05 <cryptk> that's the only place I know of
May 31 10:25:11 <cryptk> unless they moves it in 2.X
May 31 10:25:17 <cryptk> I never have to mess with them
May 31 10:25:32 <cryptk> I am of the "server admin" wing of WOSI
May 31 10:25:49 <cryptk> which basically means I keep the server up and alpha/beta test
May 31 10:25:57 <cryptk> not much actual hacking from me
May 31 10:26:01 <Judas-C> I'm still on 1.4.5
May 31 10:27:03 <Judas-C> but how can the apps work if the files aren't there
May 31 10:47:51 <Judas_C> can someone else check the /media/cryptofs dir for an apps dir
May 31 10:49:38 <cryptk> mine is there
May 31 10:49:41 <cryptk> on my Sprint Pre2
May 31 10:49:57 <Judas_C> I <Judas_C> I know I had an apps dir there before and copied too and from it before
May 31 10:50:14 <Judas_C>  but it isn't there now
May 31 10:50:40 <Judas_C> how can the apps like mplayer even work if the binary isn't there
May 31 10:54:32 <Judas-C> I'm stumped
May 31 11:22:46 <cryptk> and it's not in USB mode right?
May 31 11:23:45 <cryptk> and it's not in USB mode right?
May 31 11:24:11 <Judas-C> figured it out sorta
May 31 11:25:00 <Judas-C> do you think it might be stuck in usb mode
May 31 11:25:22 <cryptk> well, are you looking at the USB mode logo on the screen
May 31 11:25:29 <Judas-C> no
May 31 11:25:30 <cryptk> or are you looking at the normal luna interface
May 31 11:25:34 <cryptk> then it's not in USB mode
May 31 11:25:47 <Judas-C> well I'm on it with wirc
May 31 11:26:08 <cryptk> that won't put it in USB mode
May 31 11:26:17 <cryptk> wIRC is an app, nothing more
May 31 11:26:55 <Judas-C> the apps dir is hidden I can get too it in terminal by typing cd apps while in cryptofs
May 31 11:27:20 <Judas-C> but it's not .apps it's apps
May 31 11:30:18 <Judas_C> I even reinstalled internalz pro
May 31 11:31:33 <cryptk> wait... are you trying to get to it through internalz?
May 31 11:32:16 <Judas-C> yes internalz pro which I have donee before
May 31 11:33:29 <cryptk> you would have to talk to Jason about that then
May 31 11:34:30 <Judas-C> should show up with pro with master mode on
May 31 11:36:04 <Judas-C> I wonder if it has to do with the .1 update
May 31 11:36:50 <cryptk> Internals isn't made by WOSI
May 31 11:36:56 <cryptk> so you would have to talk to him
May 31 11:37:16 <cryptk> if you see it all in terminal, then it is there... why Internalz isn't showing it, I have no clue
May 31 11:37:18 <Judas-C> yeah and who knows when hee is around
May 31 11:37:30 <cryptk> the PreCentral forums is the best place to get support for his stuff
May 31 11:37:36 <cryptk> he tends to respond to his threads
May 31 11:37:41 <Judas-C> no I don't see the name in terrminal it's hidden there too
May 31 11:38:21 <Judas-C> I only figured out it was there by trying a mkdir apps
May 31 11:39:06 <cryptk> restart the phone?
May 31 11:40:29 <JudasC> <Judas-C> done that when I uninstalled f105
May 31 11:42:24 <Judas-C> I think it has to do with the verizon 1.4.5.1 update
May 31 11:42:59 <Judas-C> they made it hidden somehow
May 31 11:44:41 <cryptk> reboot the phone, don't run anything, plug it in over USB and use novaterm
May 31 11:44:43 <cryptk> see if it is there
May 31 11:45:04 <cryptk> that way you can make sure it isn't anything else causing it
May 31 11:46:08 <Judas-C> can't no pc
May 31 11:47:33 <Judas-C> unix know any reason why they would hide the apps dir in cryptofs
May 31 12:01:13 <Judas-C> guess there is no answer seems likee a system wide issue
May 31 12:05:59 <cryptk> well, do you know if it is all VZW on 1.4.5.1 or not
May 31 12:06:07 <cryptk> because you can't say it is a systemic problem with no proof
May 31 12:06:10 <cryptk> that is a bold statement
May 31 12:07:15 <Judas-C> when I said that I meant as in the same thing is happening in terminal as iit is in internalz
May 31 12:08:36 <rwhitby> Judas-C: your problem is that your cryptofs is not mounted
May 31 12:08:58 <cryptk> why wouldn't it be though
May 31 12:09:33 <rwhitby> he's been running f105
May 31 12:09:50 <cryptk> f105 prevents mounting the cryptofs?
May 31 12:09:55 <rwhitby> overclock and anything can happen to filesystems
May 31 12:09:59 <cryptk> true
May 31 13:51:15 <Loudergood> hmm...guess I can't get preware to install an ipk from an email..interesting
May 31 14:03:34 <haeffb_pre> Loudergood: why not?
May 31 14:07:38 <matbee> I just seen the most ridiculous thing ever
May 31 14:07:45 <matbee> this guy has spent like $400 on his iphone
May 31 14:07:55 <matbee> converting it to white, titanium bumper, rubber back
May 31 14:08:00 <matbee> zipper case
May 31 14:08:08 <matbee> he says to me, "I can drop it and it wont break."
May 31 14:08:16 <matbee> so he tosses it on the floor
May 31 14:08:20 <matbee> ..."oh shit. it broke."
May 31 14:08:32 <summatusmentis> hah, wait really?
May 31 14:08:46 <matbee> yes
May 31 14:08:49 <matbee> right in front of me
May 31 14:08:50 <matbee> just now
May 31 14:09:09 <summatusmentis> holy shit
May 31 14:09:11 <Loudergood> haeffb_pre: I get a curl: 37 couldn't open file error
May 31 14:09:25 <matbee> I just laughed
May 31 14:09:34 <matbee> a big ole crack on the screen now
May 31 14:09:35 <Loudergood> haha wow
May 31 14:09:45 <Loudergood> that sucks
May 31 14:10:14 <matbee> and he said, "its okay, ill just replace the screen."
May 31 14:10:20 <matbee> STOP SPENDING MONEY ON YOUR PHONE
May 31 14:10:29 <matbee> he bought 3 titanium bumper
May 31 14:10:30 <matbee> s
May 31 14:10:32 <matbee> $100 a piece
May 31 14:10:51 <Loudergood> that's crazy
May 31 14:11:05 <Loudergood> at that price they should be replacing the screen for him
May 31 14:11:12 <matbee> yeah
May 31 14:11:24 <matbee> but he blatantly dropped it face down
May 31 14:56:36 <zandi> hey, anyone remember a few days ago when i kept having "PmModemUpdater -b" freeze when i ran it from novaterm?
May 31 14:56:50 <zandi> i just tried it from "novacom open tty://" and it worked fine
May 31 14:57:16 <zandi> just FYI, for anyone else trying to run that command
May 31 16:10:28 <zandi> shit
May 31 16:10:47 <zandi> i don't think PmModemUpdater writes all the NV_ITEMS that i have to write...
May 31 17:13:44 <matbee> Have you guys seen this? C# -> Javascript compiler
May 31 17:13:52 <matbee> https://github.com/kevingadd/JSIL
May 31 17:15:13 <Loudergood> I have a really old vb.net weather app I wrote...I wonder...
May 31 17:15:58 <matbee> too cool
May 31 18:41:19 <nomad84> bnceo: nice, I hope you enjoyed it :)
May 31 18:44:00 <nomad84> rwhitby: thanks for resolving the compcache issue! :)
Jun 01 00:55:49 <oc80z> lol
Jun 01 00:56:12 <oc80z> matbee: C# -> javascript?
Jun 01 00:56:23 <oc80z> Whatabout the PHP -> C compiler...
Jun 01 01:26:18 <Cameron__> Is anybody available to help me out with my Palm Pre Plus? I'd really appreciate it.
Jun 01 01:57:27 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Cameron__: what do you need help with? I'll try, but I'm not the most qualified here by any means
Jun 01 02:02:23 <Cameron__> Any help would be great. I attempted to fully restore my Verizon Palm Pre Plus (running 1.4.5.1) earlier today and after choosing secure restore, I let it sit while I left the apartment. When I returned, the phone was completely off- now, when I attempt to boot it up, it shows the typical Palm loading logo and, after about 10 seconds, goes black and repeats continuously. I can't seem to gewt it past that screen. I'm not exa
Jun 01 02:03:22 <IGNTNUNLMTD> this was using the 1.4.5.1 Doctor?
Jun 01 02:03:22 <Cameron__> One thing I think it could be is that it may have died during the process... and I know that would possibly corrupt quite a bit of data.
Jun 01 02:03:36 <IGNTNUNLMTD> so you were clearing it
Jun 01 02:03:37 <Cameron__> No, using the reset option within the phone's settings.
Jun 01 02:03:41 <IGNTNUNLMTD> OG
Jun 01 02:03:42 <Cameron__> YEs.
Jun 01 02:03:43 <IGNTNUNLMTD> OH*
Jun 01 02:03:49 <IGNTNUNLMTD> easy fix
Jun 01 02:03:59 <IGNTNUNLMTD> so you want all the data off
Jun 01 02:04:00 <IGNTNUNLMTD> clean
Jun 01 02:04:00 <Cameron__> That's what I like to hear. lol
Jun 01 02:04:02 <IGNTNUNLMTD> empty
Jun 01 02:04:04 <IGNTNUNLMTD> ?
Jun 01 02:04:08 <Cameron__> Yep!
Jun 01 02:04:15 <Cameron__> I'm selling it to a friend
Jun 01 02:04:19 <IGNTNUNLMTD> http://palm.com/rom
Jun 01 02:04:58 <Cameron__> It's that easy? I haven't even tried plugging it in to see if my computer will recognize it.
Jun 01 02:05:26 <IGNTNUNLMTD> yep!
Jun 01 02:05:32 <IGNTNUNLMTD> just follow the instructions there
Jun 01 02:07:55 <Cameron__> Great, thanks! I really appreciate it.
Jun 01 02:57:53 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Cameron__: don't mention it :)
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