**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 05 02:59:56 2011 Jun 05 04:38:18 Hello, everyone. Jun 05 04:41:04 <\\\\\\\\\\\> Hi guys! Jun 05 04:43:33 I know this chat is dedicated towards the topics of Preware, but I wanted to ask some questions about extracting tokens from a device. Jun 05 04:44:11 Ted___, why? Jun 05 04:44:22 Ted___: use the Show Properties app in Preware Jun 05 04:44:36 that'll do it. Jun 05 04:45:47 So, install Preware on my Sprint & Verizon Pre's, install Show Properties and then copy/paste the tokens out of the device, yes? Jun 05 04:46:51 it allows you to email them to yourself Jun 05 04:48:51 Brilliant, thank you. :) Jun 05 04:49:05 For some reason I found it as much more difficult than that. Jun 05 04:49:20 Ted___: where where you looking which did not tell you about Show Properties? Jun 05 04:49:34 s/where where/where were/ Jun 05 04:49:34 rwhitby meant: Ted___: where were you looking which did not tell you about Show Properties? Jun 05 04:51:55 I mistook "Show Properties" as something different than an Application, I'm afraid it was a foolish mistake. I just like to be extremely sure before i proceed with things. Jun 05 04:52:30 I'm helping my friend preform a coms board switch, I just wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing. Jun 05 04:52:32 please add whatever clarification is needed to the wiki page you were reading, so the next person can be sure Jun 05 04:53:01 <\\\\\\\\\\\> I'm said friend! Jun 05 04:53:45 He is indeed said friend: and once our coms board swap is complete, we'll work on adding any important information we gathered to help the next person on. Jun 05 04:53:48 * rwhitby wonders what is behind the over-abundance of punctuation in IRC nicks today Jun 05 04:55:09 puts them at the top or the bottom of the list I think. Jun 05 04:55:31 puts them at the bottom of my attention span, that's for sure. Jun 05 04:56:50 Ted___, do you have an account on the wiki? Jun 05 04:57:26 I don't believe so, but I'll make one upon editing. Jun 05 04:58:31 kk... Jun 05 04:58:53 Hey, Rod, you said before that I could use a GSM board with a CDMA pre without bothering with tokens, correct? It would just affect the battery life? Jun 05 04:59:13 I wouldn't recommend it Jun 05 04:59:33 <\\\\\\\\\\\> Why? Jun 05 05:00:26 Alright, but in the case of an ATT Pre Plus coms board going into a Sprint Pre, would I just follow the Wiki and supplement the parts with Sprint tokens with my ATT tokens? Jun 05 05:00:57 yeah, you just need to put in DMMODEL, DMCARRIER and PRODoID - no need to change anything else Jun 05 05:02:34 And I do that while making the metadoctor, yes? Jun 05 05:02:44 yes, by editing the castle.xml file Jun 05 05:03:00 those are the only three values you need, and the values are not device-specific Jun 05 05:03:16 so you don't really need to extract the tokens, but I'd advise you to do so anyway Jun 05 05:03:47 Don't worry, I will :) Jun 05 05:05:57 <\\\\\\\\\\\> Hey, Mr. Whitby, when are you generally on this IRC chat? Time-of-day wise. Jun 05 05:07:25 logging will be up and down for a bit while I fix the logger. Jun 05 05:10:01 Rod, when you last helped me I wanted to make the GSM Spre WiFi only and gave me the script "./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 --wifi-only" to run. Could this script still work if I just cut "wifi-only" off of it? Jun 05 05:10:51 Pardon the horrible grammar there, I don't know what happened...heh... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 05 05:12:11 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 05 05:18:14 2011 Jun 05 05:19:12 <\\\\\\\\\\\> Thanks, that's nifty. Oh man I just said nifty. What is life. Jun 05 05:22:11 <\\\\\\\\\\\> In Ted's case, if he doesn't extract tokens at all, his only downside is a faster draining battery. What about my situation? Sprint Pre COMM board going to a Verizon Pre Plus unit. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 05 05:23:03 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 05 05:24:14 2011 Jun 05 05:25:08 okay all fixed...maybe Jun 05 05:29:00 Ted___, when you are done please be sure to update the wiki so others will understand...thanks Jun 05 05:29:33 Absolutely! Jun 05 05:29:40 <\\\\\\\\\\\> I'll help! Jun 05 05:29:52 thanks. Jun 05 05:30:14 Should we add notes for those who want an GSM Sprint pre? For as odd as it sounds? Or perhaps make another page for it? Jun 05 05:30:59 another page I would think (yes it appears odd but who I to say...you never know) Jun 05 05:31:18 s/who I/who am I/ Jun 05 05:31:19 ka6sox-home meant: another page I would think (yes it appears odd but who am I to say...you never know) Jun 05 05:32:46 is the mobi.optware.openssh package still the supported ssh package? Jun 05 05:33:21 that one is still supported. Jun 05 05:33:21 Alright, cool, it might take some time to be up-to-par with the other guide, but I'l do my best. Jun 05 05:33:31 copy and modify Jun 05 05:33:34 hrm. Jun 05 05:33:45 as a client, I remember when I installed it originally, I could ssh out... Jun 05 05:33:53 but? Jun 05 05:34:02 at some point, it started segfaulting during the protocol handshaking Jun 05 05:34:21 which version is installed now? Jun 05 05:34:29 but, I rarely use it, so I don't know exactly when it started doing that Jun 05 05:34:57 but, I was reminded that was an issue... I haven't used the ssh daemon before, but I tried to start it up, but it's not liking the ssh host keys Jun 05 05:35:08 5.3.1-5 Jun 05 05:35:23 okay let me look @ the optware feeds...brb Jun 05 05:36:58 the openssl is 0.9.8.12-4, I'm on webos 2.1.0 on a pre2, if that helps Jun 05 05:37:43 latest is openssh_5.8p2-1_arm.ipk Jun 05 05:38:28 I believe I installed these through the preware/optware feed Jun 05 05:38:38 update it and see if it fixes it. Jun 05 05:39:19 ipkg.preware.org/feeds/optware/all and /armv7? I have those, but I don't see any updates for them Jun 05 05:39:34 interesting..jas Jun 05 05:41:00 can you use a terminal proggie and tell me what you have for the feed name in optware? Jun 05 05:41:11 in /opt/etc/ Jun 05 05:41:39 Ted___: I'd just add an AT&T Franken Sprint Pre section to the existing wiki page Jun 05 05:41:47 /opt/etc/ipkg/optware.conf ? Jun 05 05:41:55 dwc-, yes please Jun 05 05:42:07 Ted___: although if you're doing tokens, I guess a new page is warranted Jun 05 05:42:16 src/gz cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/unstable Jun 05 05:42:24 src/gz native http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/native/unstable Jun 05 05:42:31 src/gz kernel http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/pre/cross/unstable Jun 05 05:42:41 dwc-, ipkg-opt update and ipkg-opt upgrade Jun 05 05:42:53 you are many revs behind there. Jun 05 05:43:22 dwc-, did you install ssh from preware? Jun 05 05:43:30 probably Jun 05 05:43:56 I think it deserves it's own page, for the sake of confusion. Jun 05 05:44:11 I got Downloading/Inflating for the 3 feeds Jun 05 05:44:17 ipkg-opt upgrade says Nothing to be done Jun 05 05:44:26 optware.conf is unchanged Jun 05 05:44:34 <\\\\\\\\\\\> In Ted's case, if he doesn't extract tokens at all, his only downside is a faster draining battery. What about my situation? Sprint Pre COMM board going to a Verizon Pre Plus unit. Jun 05 05:44:37 Ted___: ok Jun 05 05:44:59 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/optware/armv7/Packages suggests 5.3.1-5 Jun 05 05:45:04 \\\\\\\\\\\: I believe there is a wiki page for that alread Jun 05 05:45:05 y Jun 05 05:45:05 is the latest for that Jun 05 05:45:42 * rwhitby bbl Jun 05 05:45:58 dwc-, then we have to figure out why the optware feeds are not keeping up for preware. Jun 05 05:46:03 \\\\\\\\\\\, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus Jun 05 05:46:12 also... that nick is horrible, lol Jun 05 05:46:20 optware-project is @ 5.8 Jun 05 05:46:25 so preware is behind Jun 05 05:47:44 cryptk, they are putting a GSM into a sprint Pre...not the other way around. Jun 05 05:47:58 <\\\\\\\\\\\> I love my nickname! Mostly because I have absolutely no recollection of when/why I changed it to that. (It's been my general name for half a year now.) Jun 05 05:48:01 oh, gotcha Jun 05 05:48:24 wait.. I was posting that link for \\\\\\\\\\\ Jun 05 05:48:32 he is putting sprint pre comms into vze plus Jun 05 05:48:33 I'm stumped as to how it used to work, but now doesn't. I don't have gdb on the pre2, but I can see where it's definitely doing something wrong and getting the segfault from strace Jun 05 05:48:35 vzw Jun 05 05:48:37 ka6sox-home: actually \\\\\\\\\\\ is doing that page, Ted___ is doing the other. Jun 05 05:48:47 dwc-, I guess I'll have to update the packages... Jun 05 05:49:05 nm...I'm butting in where I shouldn't Jun 05 05:49:36 <\\\\\\\\\\\> What page am I doing? Jun 05 05:50:20 dwc-, you might consider adding: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/unstable/ Jun 05 05:50:26 as gdb is in there. Jun 05 05:50:55 to preware, or to optware.conf? Jun 05 05:50:57 but I need to find out how the feed for pre-optware is being created. Jun 05 05:51:07 optware.conf Jun 05 05:51:14 I'm doing the page dedicated to making the redheaded step child of a GSM Coms board in a Sprint Pre Jun 05 05:51:18 \\\\\\\\\\\, the one I linked you above Jun 05 05:51:33 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus Jun 05 05:51:44 # ssh-keygen -f ssh_host_rsa_key -y Jun 05 05:51:51 gives me the same error as starting sshd by hand Jun 05 05:52:01 PEM_read_PrivateKey: mismatch or unknown EVP_PKEY save_type 113 Jun 05 05:52:50 ka6sox-home: will consider that... if you can tell me a safe way to relocate /opt or make /var bigger Jun 05 05:53:32 /dev/mapper/store-var is only 62M, ... 24M of which is taken up by /var/mft Jun 05 05:53:34 dwc-, not without doctoring Jun 05 05:54:13 aww, that sucks Jun 05 05:54:28 dwc-, I did it without doctoring but I don't recommend it. Jun 05 05:54:50 it was ugly and I never released it. Jun 05 05:54:54 can't bind mount or symlink it onto another partition? Jun 05 05:55:07 So, if you preform the coms board switch of a Sprint Pre to a Verizon Pre Plus without tokens, and just run the corresponding script, will the device work, just with a lowered battery life (like in my situation) Jun 05 05:55:37 dwc-, the only partition with any real space in it is the media one Jun 05 05:56:06 and doesn't have a FS that allows us to do symlinks correctly in it. Jun 05 05:57:28 I was able to do a fatresize to allow more space but I don't recommend it. Jun 05 05:57:47 thru an optware app. Jun 05 05:58:12 well, I'm not recommending it, due to the way I think webos handles that partition when you let it mount over usb, but you could make a file in there, and formatting that file as a ext3 and mounting that ;) Jun 05 05:59:13 so loop mount it? Jun 05 05:59:20 <\\\\\\\\\\\> I love the dev mode code for webOS 2.0. "upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart" Jun 05 05:59:43 For all of webOS* Jun 05 06:00:07 dwc-, that would allow you to make a loop fs but its slow. Jun 05 06:00:10 it Should Work (tm), but I think you don't want to modify files on /media/internal when it's being mounted by a machine over usb Jun 05 06:00:27 yup...that could be a problem. Jun 05 06:00:57 I actually made a new partition and put debian in that... Jun 05 06:01:14 but that I did via the doctor + meta-doctor Jun 05 06:01:37 what's your concern about fatresize? Jun 05 06:01:46 <\\\\\\\\\\\> Just bypassed activation. Thanks for your help so far, guys! Jun 05 06:02:00 dwc-, nothing other than the issues you mentioned. Jun 05 06:02:16 also resizing a running system isn't for the feint of heart. Jun 05 06:02:29 eh, it's fat32, it's buggy and broken half the time anyways ;) Jun 05 06:03:13 well...if you have things on that partition backed up and use fatresize from the feed I just gave you then you can do it. Jun 05 06:03:40 however.... Jun 05 06:03:49 the cryptofs stuff then gets unmounted too. Jun 05 06:04:11 which is why you can't umount it without basically disabling the phone during that period. Jun 05 06:04:27 to do it manually I used novaterm Jun 05 06:04:41 I'm not actually too familiar with cryptofs Jun 05 06:05:15 if you umount the media partition the phone won't work for that period of time. Jun 05 06:05:23 as the cryptofs stuff resides on that partition. Jun 05 06:05:40 then you can resize, then remount Jun 05 06:05:43 well.. Jun 05 06:05:55 fatresize, then lvresize then remount Jun 05 06:05:58 where does cryptofs stuff get defined? I noticed it wasn't in fstab Jun 05 06:06:22 I don't remember if luna controls it or something else. Jun 05 06:06:50 and /etc/cryptofs wasn't very telling Jun 05 06:06:53 but thats why, when you are in that mode (usb mode) it throws up hte screen. Jun 05 06:07:10 because its disabled. Jun 05 06:07:17 but novaterm works. Jun 05 06:07:31 yea. that's how I corrupted the fs the first time :p Jun 05 06:07:40 well, and the second time too Jun 05 06:07:57 like I said...not for the feint of heart. Jun 05 06:08:07 yea, it's fine. nothing a little chkdsk doesn't fix Jun 05 06:08:23 but not something I want to make a habit of Jun 05 06:08:45 basically...you need to make the phone think its in usb mode, then do the resizes, then bring it backup. Jun 05 06:08:59 and all is good. Jun 05 06:09:29 I remember shutting down all kinds of things till it worked. Jun 05 06:09:39 I just wanted a base system. Jun 05 06:09:55 So is ZodTTD floating around in here? I noticed his name earlier. Jun 05 06:09:56 but its very very much like USB mode to do it. Jun 05 06:10:15 so will dropping it into usb mode do it? Jun 05 06:10:39 I don't think so... Jun 05 06:11:03 mostly because then the gadget attached to the usb port I don't think allows novaterm. Jun 05 06:11:17 because I've already discovered how to get the phone in usb mode, but for the host system not to be using it Jun 05 06:11:22 but its been like a year since I did it. Jun 05 06:12:04 or rather, how to have the host system to be done wtih it, but not have the phone go back out of usb mode Jun 05 06:12:12 iirc there is an upstart script that does it. Jun 05 06:12:28 and that script tells you what mode it puts things in. Jun 05 06:13:10 usbctrl? Jun 05 06:13:20 might be...its been a while. Jun 05 06:14:16 I created my own scripts from the control script to let me put the things I wanted to make sleep do so and hten re-enable when the events happend. Jun 05 06:14:38 so instead of it being event driven (like the usb one is) I made it cli controlled. Jun 05 06:14:44 ahh Jun 05 06:15:08 dwc-: optware creates a loopfs file now, for as much space as you want Jun 05 06:15:11 but you have to go thru all the right steps in the right order. Jun 05 06:15:48 what version is this "now" at? Jun 05 06:17:26 I have whatever older version was in the preware feed, I think we've decided Jun 05 06:17:55 that is setup by the bootstrap for optware. Jun 05 06:18:43 I guess I need to update the recipies for various apps in preware. Jun 05 06:19:00 's version of optware. Jun 05 06:19:48 ah, here we go... cryptofs is set up in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh Jun 05 06:20:51 hah Jun 05 06:20:52 # erase /media/internal first. It takes a while, and if user gets Jun 05 06:20:52 # impatient and pulls the battery we need /var to still hold the WIPE Jun 05 06:20:53 # flag file Jun 05 06:22:43 dwc-: are you using the latest optware bootstrap in Preware ? Jun 05 06:23:02 If not, I would recommend you do that instead of whatever it is you're doing now Jun 05 06:23:26 I don't know? I have whatever was there at the end of feb when I got the pre2 Jun 05 06:24:04 which looks like, according to http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/optware/all/Packages Jun 05 06:24:08 to be 1.0.0 Jun 05 06:24:43 Hey, Rod, I beleive //////// asked about preforming the Sprint to verizon Pre Plus coms swap without using tokens, and what would happen. (He's afk right now, that's why I'm asking for him) Jun 05 06:25:03 dwc-: ah, 1.5.2 is in the optware testing feed Jun 05 06:25:52 Ted___: if you don't change the model and carrier tokens, you'll be presenting the wrong information to the profile server Jun 05 06:26:31 sounds like that might be a good candidate for graduating out of the testing feeds too then? Jun 05 06:27:09 dwc-, sounds like it Jun 05 06:27:24 I'll snag 1.5.2 and test too. Jun 05 06:27:54 But you said it could be done with the GSM board in the sprint pre (though not recommended). Jun 05 06:28:02 Or is this case different? Jun 05 06:28:04 bah. bash and it's too-smart auto-completions.... why yes, I do want dpkg to act on a .ipk file Jun 05 06:28:09 dwc-, did you say that ipkg-opt -l openssh is @ 5.3.1? Jun 05 06:28:44 no Jun 05 06:29:05 okay. Jun 05 06:29:08 I got my 5.3.1 from preware Jun 05 06:29:10 Ted___: seriously, follow the wiki pages. Jun 05 06:29:31 dwc-, okay lets see if the updated ones are in testing. Jun 05 06:29:38 otherwise, results are unpredictable, and unless you know exactly what you're doing and why it will stuff something up Jun 05 06:29:44 ipkg-opt list openssh shows 5.8 Jun 05 06:29:52 dwc-, let me lok @ the feed server Jun 05 06:30:04 Alrighty. Just wanted to get the correct information for him, sorry! But, really, thank you for all the questions you've answered, you're a life saver, mate Jun 05 06:30:08 okay so if you use preware to update it with 1.0.0 its still the old one... Jun 05 06:30:26 let me look @ the feed server and see what we have in the optware feed there. Jun 05 06:30:36 for 1.5.2 Jun 05 06:31:13 still the old one... Jun 05 06:31:31 let me update the makefile and push a change(if I can figure out how) Jun 05 06:32:01 * dwc- spies a mount -o loop /media/cryptofs/optware.ext3 /opt in the 1.5.2 upstart Jun 05 06:32:09 yup Jun 05 06:32:29 dwc-: then you can resize that .ext3 file to as large as you want. it defaults to 64MB Jun 05 06:33:54 does ext3 do online resizing? Jun 05 06:34:23 ah, yes it does Jun 05 07:14:59 So, admittedly, I haven't so much been paying attention for a few years. Jun 05 07:15:22 But I did not expect that when I started paying attention, webOS would be storing things in Berkeley DB. Jun 05 07:15:56 what about sqlite? Jun 05 07:18:01 is db8 based on berkeley db ? Jun 05 07:20:06 dwc-: webOS 1.x stored a lot of stuff in SQLite3, and webOS 2.x definitely does still have at least some SQLite3 databases. Jun 05 07:20:36 dwc-: However, at least a large chunk of the "meat" of webOS 2.x's data is in Berkeley DB. Jun 05 07:22:35 Note specifially /var/db/main/*.db, all of which are Berkeley DB v9 databases. Jun 05 07:26:08 rwhitby: I would really like to know that, actually. I would be somewhat surprised if it were, since it supports fairly powerful querying and ordering of results, but I'm not super familiar with Berkeley DB so for now I'm in the dark. Jun 05 07:28:22 dotequals: interesting, I was wondering what format /var/db was in Jun 05 07:28:42 dotequals: so you've read the contents with bdb v9 somehow? Jun 05 07:30:22 rwhitby: Yes, sort of. I identified the files as db3-ish files and tested that out with db-utils, which confirmed it. Jun 05 07:30:41 So I actually can process them with the Berkeley DB utilities. Unfortunately, that doesn't really give me access to their contents. Jun 05 07:31:22 So as of an hour or two ago I'm working on trying to access them using bindings from a scripting language. Jun 05 07:32:06 PHP's db4 handler wasn't helpful, and the version of PHP I have on hand doesn't have db2 or db3 handlers, so I'm going to try Perl (which I trust at this more anyway) next. Jun 05 07:48:37 Ah. Jun 05 07:48:42 rwhitby: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/mojo/db8.html#db8-faq Jun 05 07:49:09 It would appear that db8 does put its stuff in /var/db, so I will assume that it is responsible for these files and therefore Berkeley DB-based. Jun 05 07:50:24 Moreover, since they say that they will "back up data objects of that kind", I suspect that the transition to a key-value store (like BDB) might have been motivated by trying to make cloud syncing easier. Jun 05 07:51:29 dotequals: agreed on all points Jun 05 08:34:44 If I'm right and this is just the db8 store, then it would probably be both more correct and much easier to figure out how to access the data I want through the db8 API. Jun 05 08:34:54 But I think I'm still going to try to read the files first. Jun 05 08:48:17 dotequals: have you used Impostah ? Jun 05 08:48:30 dotequals: /var/db is definitely the db8 store. I know that for a fact. Jun 05 08:49:01 and yes, it's much easier to use the com.palm.db service to access that data, just like Impostah does. Jun 05 13:17:46 hello Jun 05 13:18:31 How can I get org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-menus-device-menu installed via preware when it already has been installed before but due to recovery preware does not know this anymore Jun 05 13:19:05 -1: Unable to run command: IPKG_OFFLINE_ROOT=/media/cryptofs/apps /bin/sh /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info/org.webosinternals.patches.advanced-system-menus-device-menu.postinst 2>&1 Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] Apply anyway? [n] 22 out of 22 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file usr/lib/luna/system/luna-systemui/app/controllers/devicemenu-assistant.js.rej remove Removing package or Jun 05 13:32:28 recovery? Jun 05 13:34:27 EPR Jun 05 13:39:42 i'd run efv next Jun 05 13:47:30 ok thanks Jun 05 17:57:25 @rwhitby Hi, I would like to test your software linphone. What I have to do? Jun 05 18:19:06 bjawebos: wait for him to wake up, he lives in Australia :) Jun 05 18:22:21 NuttvBunnv: Upps, ok I wait. Thanks Jun 05 19:55:26 yo, wut up Jun 05 19:55:42 so, came back from trip to NJ. my Veer was being held by a neighbor Jun 05 19:56:38 What do I do now with it? Jun 05 20:08:49 send it over to me? Jun 05 20:11:40 lol Jun 05 20:11:47 I mean how do I enable dev mode on this thing Jun 05 20:14:59 dwc-: thanks for patches :) Jun 05 20:18:00 oil, how do I get a veer into dev mode? Jun 05 20:18:31 idk, *DEVMODE# or whatever it is from the dialer? Jun 05 20:19:38 how do I get to the dialer? Jun 05 20:20:20 I'm at the check SIM menu Jun 05 21:18:25 Hello? Jun 05 21:20:05 testing connection? Jun 05 21:20:14 Nope, had a question. Jun 05 21:21:10 well, it won't ask itself Jun 05 21:21:44 I have a Pre 2 and tried PreFox out (mistake 1)... Jun 05 21:22:25 My browser now won't allow links to video or audio connections, and links in apps that call browser don't work. Jun 05 21:22:56 I tried WebOS Doctor twice, and the behavior persists. Did WebOS Doctor and Full Erase, and it still persists. Jun 05 21:24:20 Is there a way for me to blank out the device further (to the point that only USB Recovery works), or is there a way to re-install Browser as a package to restore it's use? Jun 05 21:26:54 I have Ubuntu running novaterm right now. The device is connected up. Jun 05 21:31:13 Any ideas? Jun 05 21:37:46 No? Jun 05 21:40:47 80 people and nobody wants to talk. I can take a hint. Jun 05 21:41:10 oil: np ... can you tell me how to fix my jailer issue on the emu? Jun 05 21:42:15 more like 80 idlers and nobody knows the answer Jun 05 21:42:39 more like 80 idlers and nobody knows the answer Jun 05 21:42:47 nobody that's around, anyways Jun 05 21:42:58 Gotcha. Jun 05 21:43:05 * dwc- has no answer for you, and returns to idling Jun 05 21:43:43 Guess I'll dive in and just wave a machete around. Thanks. (Out) Jun 05 21:44:42 * ka6sox-home stays out of arm (and machete) reach Jun 05 21:51:02 heh, the browser config must have made its way to his profile.. he will have to delete his profile info... but... well, he has left.. too bad :) Jun 05 21:53:59 waving a machete would have me saying "hasta la Vista Baybee" Jun 05 21:54:23 dwc-: i have no clue haha Jun 05 21:55:17 oil, dwc: damn, 80 people here and nobody can fix dwc-'s problem with the emu.. pfft Jun 05 21:55:25 ;) Jun 05 22:19:18 As an FYI: "cd /usr | rm -r * | shutdown -r now", then ran WebOS Doctor again. No /usr data, no apps. I'm sure there's a more educated or efficient way to accomplish the same, but it did the trick. Jun 05 22:19:29 Thanks anyway. Jun 05 22:21:57 hehehe.. you could had doctored to a previous version and then to the actual :) Jun 05 22:22:49 morning Jun 05 22:23:31 bnceo: #*DEVMODE# works from the sim screen Jun 05 22:24:19 use the keyboard for the # and the * ;) Jun 05 22:24:20 brb Jun 05 22:45:22 thx NuttyBunny and rwhitby Jun 05 22:54:57 you kids and your webos 2.0 Jun 05 23:14:58 Hi fellas Jun 05 23:15:34 hey Jun 05 23:15:48 what's going on Nutty Jun 05 23:16:28 nothin much, cranking out ideas and trying to make them work for the TP launch Jun 05 23:17:14 are you guys working with the emulator? I cannot wait to get my nerdy hands on a TP Jun 05 23:17:31 i just got my sister to agree to buy my ipad off me to raise funds for a TP Jun 05 23:20:16 quick question for the hive mind: I have a GSM Unlocked Pre 2 i'm trying to doctor but it keeps failing at 12% Jun 05 23:20:18 I really don't have money for a TP yet, so, yes, emulator :( Jun 05 23:20:25 12%? Jun 05 23:20:27 I'm able to novaterm into the device Jun 05 23:20:37 12% into webos Dr Jun 05 23:21:10 try to run the doctor in a terminal to see if it barks any errors Jun 05 23:21:20 ok Jun 05 23:21:21 java -jar webosdoctor*.jar Jun 05 23:22:04 thanks, hopefully you guys will get a chance to buy a TP soon. I'm hoping the Jun 12th date is true Jun 05 23:22:10 i'll give that a try Jun 05 23:26:31 hope you can see what's happening, but at 12% ... it's strange that breaks there Jun 05 23:26:39 (it) Jun 05 23:26:54 Looks like the first error it hits is: Volume group store not found in existing configuration Jun 05 23:28:19 no way! hahahah Jun 05 23:28:36 cool :D Jun 05 23:28:47 was it working before?? Jun 05 23:29:03 yeah Jun 05 23:29:10 that's odd... Jun 05 23:29:24 I assume it's now in the palm/hp logo, stuck, and you have novaterm access Jun 05 23:29:35 i was getting ready to make a Sprint Pre 2 so i doctored the GSM Pre 2 after I backed it up and got the tokens to start with a clean slate Jun 05 23:29:52 i'm at the chip w arrow screen and i do have novaterm access Jun 05 23:30:27 ok, try this in novaterm: lvm.static vgdisplay Jun 05 23:30:44 it *should* talk about a "store" volume group Jun 05 23:31:02 yes, i'm seeing info about VG Name store Jun 05 23:31:25 and if you do: lvm.static lvdisplay Jun 05 23:31:37 you should see 8 blocks of information Jun 05 23:31:58 yes, the various mounts Jun 05 23:32:07 root, var, file-cache, db, media, swap and others Jun 05 23:32:20 I'm missing 2... *sigh* Jun 05 23:32:33 upgrade Jun 05 23:32:40 can you post your log to pastebin.org ? Jun 05 23:32:52 ah, yes, upgrade and log Jun 05 23:32:59 sure, any specific pastbin? or just create one Jun 05 23:33:18 new one is fine Jun 05 23:35:14 pastebin.com/nGgiavGt Jun 05 23:36:22 any particular reason it's funny? did someone else have this issue or am i the lucky first who admitted it? Jun 05 23:37:29 it's not "funny", but the funny thing is that over the past couple of months I've been playing a lot with lvm, and I never imagined to see something like that Jun 05 23:37:41 :-) lucky me to find ya here Jun 05 23:38:14 argh.. I was talking about the webosdoctor log :) Jun 05 23:38:19 o Jun 05 23:38:20 ok Jun 05 23:38:26 one min Jun 05 23:39:34 weird... why does it say NOT available on every LV status? Jun 05 23:39:52 try these 2: Jun 05 23:39:55 lvm.static vgscan --ignorelockingfailure Jun 05 23:39:55 lvm.static vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure Jun 05 23:40:11 then again the lvm.static vgdisplay and lvm.static lvdisplay Jun 05 23:43:05 um, I think we should ask for the other errors the doctor displayed. I think this one is a red herring. Jun 05 23:43:43 BeingBoston: pastebin.com the full log from the doctor from when you start it on the command line to when it stops at 12%. I bet it's not an LVM problem. Jun 05 23:44:16 working on the dr log now Jun 05 23:45:23 dr log = 2PjA3HqJ Jun 05 23:45:44 Unknown Paste ID! Jun 05 23:46:07 2PgA3HqJ Jun 05 23:48:10 I don't like: CPU-specific initialization failed Jun 05 23:48:42 you're using a Pre2 doctor, aren't you? Jun 05 23:49:33 webosdoctor103ueuna-wr.jar Jun 05 23:51:08 i'll run a checksum on it Jun 05 23:52:13 I'll assume as well that you don't have both of your devices connected Jun 05 23:52:31 i have only the pre 2 connected Jun 05 23:52:35 with the gsm board Jun 05 23:55:35 weird.. Jun 05 23:56:15 lemme see if I can find one thing Jun 05 23:57:10 the checksum is correct Jun 05 23:57:52 btw, i ran the two lvm cmds you ask and the LV status is avalible on each one Jun 05 23:58:47 yep, the problem (I think) is with that cpu-specific initialization error, but I don't have a spare pre2 to doctor and see if it's normal or not :) Jun 05 23:59:22 hmm Jun 06 00:02:38 i should not have had full confidence in myself. I made a Sprint Pre + (and GSM Pre-) before with little issue. So i thought this would go smoothly and it barely got off the ground Jun 06 00:03:44 No, it's not that hard, something's wrong on your device, are you sure all the cables are properly connected? (just wondering) Jun 06 00:03:57 the doctor should work Jun 06 00:04:03 i'll double check the connections Jun 06 00:04:33 CPU-specific initialization failed is a transient error - run the doctor again Jun 06 00:04:49 make sure you have the device plugged directly into the computer, no intermediate hubs or extenders Jun 06 00:05:18 i do have an extender, i'll remove it and plug directly in Jun 06 00:06:38 I hate you Rod, you always have an answer ;) hehehe Jun 06 00:07:04 that's why HP pays me the big bucks. oh, hang on, they don't. Jun 06 00:07:43 BeingBoston: BTW, I think you have your tokens in the wrong place in your custom castle.xml Jun 06 00:08:03 rwhitby: they could, but it would go against your free way of doing things ;) Jun 06 00:08:22 they could always pay cash ;) Jun 06 00:09:23 it's not that, Rod would have to sign NDAs and that kind of stuff Jun 06 00:10:18 mydesktop is a pita to get to the cables, give a min please Jun 06 00:10:50 I always connect my webOS devices directly, they get more juice from the port :) Jun 06 00:13:47 ok, cable is directly connected. I'm goign to run the dr from cmd line and pipe it to a file Jun 06 00:14:34 well first i'm goign to double chcekc hte comm board is snugg Jun 06 00:15:05 BeingBoston: it's not an issue with the phone hardware Jun 06 00:15:41 I get that every now and again on my Pre 2 device which has never been hardware modified. Jun 06 00:16:10 rwhitby: ok, i'll just go for the stock Dr then Jun 06 00:18:06 ok, it's doctoring Jun 06 00:19:17 failed, i'll paste bin the log Jun 06 00:21:07 7F9mq6jw Jun 06 00:21:21 BeingBoston: please paste the URL for convenience Jun 06 00:21:40 rwhitby: i'll be sure to do that going forward, thanks Jun 06 00:23:08 BeingBoston: are you using a custom castle.xml file? Jun 06 00:27:24 rwhitby: yes, that is where I entered the tokens for the comm board swap, but that was a different copy of the doctor Jun 06 00:27:50 rwhitby: do i need to corret a token? Jun 06 00:28:21 me Jun 06 00:28:41 rwhitby-pre: do i need to correct a token? Jun 06 00:29:42 BeingBoston: are you sure your XML file is correct for the Pre 2 ? Jun 06 00:30:32 rwhitby: i was sure to copy and paste right from the email that contained the tokens. should i create a custom dr with the tokens again to overwrite them incase there was an error? Jun 06 00:30:55 rwhitby: re-write the tokens to the Pre 2 Jun 06 00:32:45