**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 30 02:59:57 2011
Jun 30 03:03:27 <dwc-> the marketable features, hopefully
Jun 30 03:03:57 <mhats> hey all... having trouble applying a patch... hide-just-type-text. quick install says it cant connect to webosinternals server for the AUPT scripts. I've tried running it a few times, and it worked a few hours ago on a different device...
Jun 30 03:04:17 <dwc-> my best guess is either oversight or that it was sometimes useful for debugging... and since crash reports get sent to palm, they wanted the info
Jun 30 03:13:56 <mhats> ?
Jun 30 03:37:56 <oc80z> i just got a 4G modem to turn on in linux with the beceem driver, the U600 dongle
Jun 30 03:40:10 <oc80z> phew.
Jun 30 03:40:47 <oc80z> too bad its not 4G. its actually wimax
Jun 30 03:40:52 <oc80z> but, sales, n all.
Jun 30 11:38:52 <r9s> hello
Jun 30 11:40:08 <r9s> do you know where (on Pre) I can find files from quick search? I need edit wikipedia search
Jun 30 11:41:28 <r9s> from en.wikipedia.org to pl.wikipedia.org
Jun 30 11:43:38 <r9s> guys...
Jun 30 12:11:55 <RagingMind> I didn't realize that logging was that bad...  /me runs off to install the muffle patch
Jun 30 12:16:25 <rwhitby> that patch has been reported to cause problems.  research it first.
Jun 30 12:25:42 <RagingMind> I'm willing to test it a while.  the sluggishness has been extra frustrating lately as I've been spending time on the phone with my bank and other bills
Jun 30 12:26:35 <RagingMind> systems that expect touch tones don't like it when you spend 5ish seconds silent (cause it's not responding to me hitting the numbers)
Jun 30 13:02:00 <RagingMind> http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?tag=mantle_skin;content
Jun 30 13:48:06 <PuffTheMagic> if the TP is that easy to take apart i wonder if there will be custom backs
Jun 30 13:51:54 <RagingMind> I'm thinking "giant sticker"
Jun 30 14:15:01 <Loudergood> can I get one in rubberized flat black...like my pre or my thinkpad..
Jun 30 14:16:17 <PatrickC> ^^ +1
Jun 30 16:11:50 <NuttyBunny> Enyooooooooo!!!
Jun 30 16:14:05 <fudge_> hello!
Jun 30 16:14:26 <fudge_> can anyone tell me how to masq once i upgrade to webos 2.1?
Jun 30 16:15:46 <NuttyBunny> use the scripts, they do everything automatically
Jun 30 16:16:23 <rwhitby> fudge_: if you're talking about masqing, then you're following the wrong instructions. use the webos-internals wiki, and ignore everything else on the internet.
Jun 30 16:17:58 <fudge_> yeah masqing. im too tired to read the wiki any further. been awake for the past day and a half. running on coffee atm... does the scripts automatically masq?
Jun 30 16:24:02 <rwhitby> um, I recommend you don't do a 2.x upgrade in that state of mind.  sleep and then do it.
Jun 30 16:25:01 <rwhitby> all the info is on the wiki. by asking the same question here, you disrespect the time and effort that all the authors of the wiki page spent documenting the process.
Jun 30 16:25:32 <azakus> rwhitby: did you get that device out of QPT?
Jun 30 16:25:56 <rwhitby> azakus: wasn't me. he did a battery pull and it came up fine.
Jun 30 16:26:10 <azakus> power + center for 12 seconds if it happens again
Jun 30 16:27:27 <fudge_> rwhitby: i dont mean to disrespect anyone. i actually admire the effort that was put into making this thing work. i'll go take a nap in a little while.
Jun 30 16:27:59 <rwhitby> azakus: that documented anywhere?
Jun 30 16:28:13 <azakus> same procedure to reboot, so probably
Jun 30 16:28:29 <azakus> except, QPT mode isn't exactly supposed to happen
Jun 30 16:29:02 <summatusmentis> what makes a phone brickable or not?
Jun 30 16:29:36 <rwhitby> azakus: what is "center" ?
Jun 30 16:29:45 <azakus> the center button
Jun 30 16:30:44 <rwhitby> um, what center button?
Jun 30 16:31:39 <azakus> oho, wrong device...
Jun 30 16:31:53 * azakus needs to read closer
Jun 30 16:32:39 <azakus> nevermind!
Jun 30 16:33:46 * rwhitby wonders what device azakus was referring to?
Jun 30 16:35:18 <azakus> in other news, anyone want the beginnings of an enyoized jstop?
Jun 30 16:39:51 <fudge_> sup patrick
Jun 30 16:40:00 <PatrickC> hey fudge_
Jun 30 16:40:06 <PatrickC> nda lifted!!!
Jun 30 16:40:30 <PatrickC> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=79180#p79180
Jun 30 16:40:46 <fudge_> i havent been following the webos train for a while now. just got back a pre :)
Jun 30 16:41:02 <phoque> booya!
Jun 30 16:41:08 <PatrickC> yeah!!
Jun 30 16:44:17 <fudge_> this is why i hate technology
Jun 30 16:44:32 <fudge_> im upgrading to 2.1 and 3.0 is out already -_-
Jun 30 16:45:03 <PatrickC> the SDK isn't out yet
Jun 30 16:45:10 <PatrickC> the NDA has just been lifted
Jun 30 16:45:49 <phoque> fudge_, you can't update phones to 3.0 anyways
Jun 30 16:48:14 <fudge_> oh lol
Jun 30 16:48:50 <PatrickC> it will (hopefully) be available for Pre³ and Veer
Jun 30 16:49:09 <fudge_> lol i read that as pre squared :3
Jun 30 16:49:28 <PatrickC> haha
Jun 30 16:49:51 <fudge_> does anyone else have problems with their pre reciving calls late?
Jun 30 16:50:12 <fudge_> mine dosent ring till a good 10 seconds into the call
Jun 30 16:54:08 <NuttyBunny> you should at least be able to run enyo apps on Pre2, Veer and Pre3
Jun 30 16:54:59 * PatrickC runs them on his Pre2
Jun 30 16:55:03 <PatrickC> I can say that now!!!!!
Jun 30 16:55:29 * fudge_ imagines running enyo apps on his imaginary pre2
Jun 30 16:55:45 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 30 16:55:54 * PatrickC has 2 pre2's, a Pre+, and a Pre-
Jun 30 16:56:43 * fudge_ has over 4 broken pre-'s
Jun 30 16:56:56 <PatrickC> :/
Jun 30 16:56:58 <fudge_> anyone need a main board?
Jun 30 16:57:05 <playya_> yes :)
Jun 30 16:57:45 * PatrickC does :)
Jun 30 16:57:46 <fudge_> ok, i'll pull them out the box in a little bit. first im gonna go get some shut eye
Jun 30 16:57:53 <PatrickC> night
Jun 30 16:58:08 <fudge_> g/n, im gonna be back later and we will discuss it further
Jun 30 16:58:20 * fudge_ is away: sleep
Jun 30 16:59:03 <summatusmentis> wait, PatrickC, how do you run enyo apps on a pre2?
Jun 30 16:59:12 * PatrickC is special :)
Jun 30 16:59:25 <summatusmentis> I didn't realize that was possible yet
Jun 30 16:59:31 <rwhitby> enyo is just JS, nothing special.
Jun 30 16:59:38 <PatrickC> yeah, if you install it correctly..
Jun 30 17:00:00 <summatusmentis> rwhitby: I mean, yes, but don't you need the proper stuff in the proper places?
Jun 30 17:00:13 <rwhitby> yes. when has that ever been a barrier?
Jun 30 17:00:47 <summatusmentis> heh, I guess I assumed it was a palm sanctioned way of running enyo on the pre2 :)
Jun 30 17:01:07 <rwhitby> it's webOS device, the software license allows it
Jun 30 17:01:31 <summatusmentis> interesting
Jun 30 17:01:38 <summatusmentis> that's pretty neat
Jun 30 17:02:17 <NuttyBunny> not everything from enyo  works under the Pre2 :(
Jun 30 17:02:25 <PatrickC> scrolling doesnt...
Jun 30 17:03:08 <NuttyBunny> but the input example works!! that went into my app ;)
Jun 30 17:04:42 <PatrickC> :)
Jun 30 17:04:54 <PatrickC> NuttyBunny: why don't I have that version? :)
Jun 30 17:05:18 <PatrickC> scoutcamper: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;amp;p=79180#p79180
Jun 30 17:06:12 <NuttyBunny> PatrickC: If you run the "input" example, in the more examples folder in your Pre, you see that you can do 2 finger gestures, that I used on my app, you have the latest version (0.0.9 I think), don't you? it does gestures in the emu :)
Jun 30 17:06:34 <PatrickC> I have 0.10 :)
Jun 30 17:06:39 <PatrickC> which is the final release
Jun 30 17:07:21 <PatrickC> does your app scale properly?
Jun 30 17:10:04 <scoutcamper> PatrickC, that link is invalid
Jun 30 17:10:11 <PatrickC> hrmm..
Jun 30 17:10:31 <NuttyBunny> my app doesn't scale properly.. yet... and I don't intend it to do... yet... :D
Jun 30 17:10:44 <PatrickC> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=79180#p79180
Jun 30 17:11:09 <scoutcamper> yep, saw that
Jun 30 17:14:05 <PatrickC> now I have to install ssh...
Jun 30 17:23:04 <PatrickC> if I'm getting the permissions denied in the cmd line on my phone, how do I bypass that?
Jun 30 17:28:20 <PatrickC> anyone?
Jun 30 17:28:50 <zandi> PatrickC: what are you trying to do, and what user are you?
Jun 30 17:28:56 <cryptk> PatrickC, that would depend on what you are doing
Jun 30 17:28:58 <PatrickC> I'm under root
Jun 30 17:29:05 <PatrickC> trying to set up ssh-keygen
Jun 30 17:29:05 <cryptk> but the general answer would be "bypass it the linux way"
Jun 30 17:29:14 <zandi> chmod i guess
Jun 30 17:29:20 <zandi> what, can you not run the program?
Jun 30 17:29:26 <cryptk> where are you trying to output the key to
Jun 30 17:29:30 <zandi> or is it giving you a permissions error on some file?
Jun 30 17:29:35 <cryptk> what are the file permissions at that location
Jun 30 17:29:43 <cryptk> is that location mounted RW or RO
Jun 30 17:29:53 <PatrickC> I'm running
Jun 30 17:30:04 <rwhitby> PatrickC: what wiki page are you following, and where are you up to on it?
Jun 30 17:30:09 <PatrickC> http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH?wasRedirected=true
Jun 30 17:30:29 <PatrickC> under the "Generate Keys from webOS"
Jun 30 17:30:53 <PatrickC> and I'm up to the "/opt/bin/ssh-keygen
Jun 30 17:31:17 <cryptk> try this
Jun 30 17:31:19 <fudge_> sorry to change subjects here, but i jus have a quick question. Can i just grab any sprint PRL from any sprint phone and flash it to my pre?
Jun 30 17:31:21 <zandi> if it isn't running, you might have to chmod +x that file
Jun 30 17:31:22 <cryptk> mount -o remount,RW /
Jun 30 17:31:26 <cryptk> then run it
Jun 30 17:31:35 <zandi> fudge_: i don't see why not.
Jun 30 17:31:41 <rwhitby> PatrickC: have you read http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Basic_Linux_Use first?
Jun 30 17:31:42 <zandi> worst-case you'll be roaming when you shouldn't be
Jun 30 17:31:51 <fudge_> lol nice
Jun 30 17:31:51 <cryptk> fudge_, as long as they are both sprint phones, yes, assuming you do it right
Jun 30 17:32:00 <fudge_> ok great
Jun 30 17:32:01 <PatrickC> rwhitby: no
Jun 30 17:32:10 <rwhitby> PatrickC: start there.
Jun 30 17:32:11 <fudge_> just wanted to know if the PRL is the same for all phones :3
Jun 30 17:32:17 <PatrickC> rwhitby: ok
Jun 30 17:32:19 <PatrickC> reading now
Jun 30 17:32:21 <zandi> old ones will probably work alright for the most part
Jun 30 17:32:27 <zandi> i'd try and get the newest ones you can thoguh
Jun 30 17:32:33 <rwhitby> cryptk: giving a mount remount command to someone with no linux knowledge?
Jun 30 17:32:37 <zandi> and as always, keep backups ;)
Jun 30 17:32:49 <fudge_> yup. i was just wondering what to do when a new PRL comes out :3
Jun 30 17:32:54 <cryptk> rwhitby, doesn't preware remount RW when you run it
Jun 30 17:33:05 <zandi> yeah, PRLs aren't critical at all.
Jun 30 17:33:26 <zandi> as long as you write ir properly, you shouldn't have to worry about erasing things or bricking the phone (in general!)
Jun 30 17:33:35 <fudge_> lol
Jun 30 17:33:36 <rwhitby> cryptk: it's not writing to the root partition anyway
Jun 30 17:33:40 <zandi> i'm not sure if the pre does things differently, but i don't think it would
Jun 30 17:33:52 <fudge_> is the modem on the main board or on the comms board
Jun 30 17:34:01 <cryptk> good point, I'm multitasking, probably shouldn't do that while assisting people, lol
Jun 30 17:34:02 <zandi> not sure
Jun 30 17:34:11 <fudge_> oh
Jun 30 17:34:28 <zandi> i know more about CDMA in general than i do about the pre
Jun 30 17:34:35 <PatrickC> rwhitby: I tried running it with sudo, but it rejected it..
Jun 30 17:34:45 <fudge_> lol, eh i'll see what happens
Jun 30 17:34:50 <cryptk> PatrickC, if you are root, sudo isn't going to get you anything more
Jun 30 17:34:50 <pcwiz84> anyone know how Impostah works?
Jun 30 17:35:06 <rwhitby> pcwiz84: nope
Jun 30 17:35:13 <cryptk> pcwiz84, not at all
Jun 30 17:35:15 <zandi> PatrickC: do an ls -l on the folder the executable's in, and see if it's set to be executable
Jun 30 17:35:37 <zandi> i might be behind on this, i don't know what sort of permissions error you're getting
Jun 30 17:35:39 <cryptk> PatrickC, are you getting any output at all from ssh-keygen?
Jun 30 17:35:49 <scoutcamper> pcwiz84, impostah is black magic
Jun 30 17:35:59 <PatrickC> 1 second, let me run it again to make sure I'm getting it correct
Jun 30 17:36:22 * rwhitby is still waiting for PatrickC to pastebin an exact log of what he typed and what happened, cause that should be in his first sentence to the channel
Jun 30 17:36:30 <pcwiz84> scoutcamper, haha very funny
Jun 30 17:36:43 <PatrickC> rwhitby: terminus doesn't let you copy/paste? does it?
Jun 30 17:36:52 <cryptk> PatrickC, novaterm?
Jun 30 17:36:59 <PatrickC> no PC nearby
Jun 30 17:37:10 <rwhitby> doing openssh without a PC nearby is foolhardy
Jun 30 17:37:14 <cryptk> so what are you going to SSH from?
Jun 30 17:37:19 <PatrickC> terminus
Jun 30 17:37:20 <rwhitby> s/openssh/openssh key setup/
Jun 30 17:37:22 <infobot> rwhitby meant: doing openssh key setup without a PC nearby is foolhardy
Jun 30 17:37:36 <PatrickC> terminus/xterm
Jun 30 17:37:58 <rwhitby> PatrickC: you never do things the easy way, do you?
Jun 30 17:38:07 <halfhalo> this will end it bloodshed or tears
Jun 30 17:38:07 <PatrickC> nope.. should I wait? lol
Jun 30 17:38:10 * halfhalo gets popcorn
Jun 30 17:38:23 <cryptk> PatrickC, I would go for the wait personally..
Jun 30 17:38:25 <pcwiz84> guess that's a no in general. *sigh*
Jun 30 17:38:43 <rwhitby> pcwiz84: Impostah is open source.
Jun 30 17:38:52 <cryptk> pcwiz84, if you have a more detailed question, we may be able to help, but short of that the source is on git.webos-internals.org
Jun 30 17:38:52 <PatrickC> cryptk: ok.. I'll be at a PC with novaterm in about 30 min to 1 hr
Jun 30 17:39:44 <rwhitby> pcwiz84: and Impostah does about 500 different things.  The quality of the answers usually reflects the quality of the question ;)
Jun 30 17:40:13 * cryptk wonders how close to correct that 500 number is... probably pretty close...
Jun 30 17:40:41 <rwhitby> cryptk: well, I added 5 more uses in the last hour.
Jun 30 17:41:00 <halfhalo> an impostah use a day keeps the webos doctor away.
Jun 30 17:41:07 <cryptk> s/500/505/
Jun 30 17:42:06 <pcwiz84> I see. Well, anyone know how to get all the different selections to work? Only have "connections, app data, app cookies, and web cookies" selectable.
Jun 30 17:42:36 <rwhitby> pcwiz84: some options are only available on webOS 2.x or later
Jun 30 17:43:04 <rwhitby> anyone using Impostah should have meta-doctored to 2.x already
Jun 30 17:45:35 <cryptk> which I might add is pretty easy to do, as long as you follow the correct instructions
Jun 30 17:45:40 <pcwiz84> I'm using 1.4.5.1 on vz pixi plus w/o any plan. Only rely on wifi, which is @ home so I'm usually good.
Jun 30 17:46:45 <pcwiz84> does meta-doctoring to 2.x work for Pixi as well?
Jun 30 17:46:45 <scoutcamper> pcwiz84, what do you wish to acomplish with impostah?
Jun 30 17:47:00 <cryptk> rwhitby, correct me if I'm wrong, but much of what Impostah does work by tying into the 2.X database (db8?), which doesn't exist on pre 2.X devices
Jun 30 17:47:08 <rwhitby> correct
Jun 30 17:47:34 <rwhitby> pcwiz84: it does not, since Palm has never released any 2.x for pixi anywhere in the world
Jun 30 17:48:39 <summatusmentis> whoa, I just installed impostah, there are some neat things in here
Jun 30 17:48:45 <pcwiz84> well, rats. Guess Pixis are sitting in the back of the bus, then. Poot
Jun 30 17:49:56 <pcwiz84> +summatusmentis, that's what I thought
Jun 30 17:51:46 <pcwiz84> ;-)
Jun 30 17:51:56 <summatusmentis> I should play with this more
Jun 30 17:52:09 <rwhitby> summatusmentis: watch out for the sharp edges
Jun 30 17:52:30 <summatusmentis> rwhitby: yes, by play with, I mean look at all the settings :)
Jun 30 17:52:39 <singmajesty> Hey, just wanted to check again
Jun 30 17:52:53 <singmajesty> So issue with app catalog is that < Pre 2 devices are not allowed to download 2.x apps?
Jun 30 17:52:58 <summatusmentis> does the profile override stuff have the potential to allow me to host my own "HP cloud"?
Jun 30 17:53:03 <singmajesty> Regardless of whether 2.x is installed?
Jun 30 17:53:07 <pcwiz84> +summatusmentis, do you have 2.x?
Jun 30 17:53:20 <summatusmentis> pcwiz84: I'm runnig a meta-doctored 2.1 on my pre-
Jun 30 17:56:56 <PatrickC> singmajesty: I've insalled 2.x apps on my Pre-
Jun 30 17:56:59 <PatrickC> installed*
Jun 30 17:57:19 <pcwiz84> well, in other news I can't get wIRC to work for nothin! Keeps telling me it's "waiting for the plugin." any help? I have all the necessary dependencies, so I'm  at a loss.
Jun 30 17:58:53 <pcwiz84> +pcwiz84
Jun 30 17:59:33 <RagingMind> does 1.4.5.1 fix the fstab bug?
Jun 30 18:00:51 <cryptk> RagingMind, wow... blast from the past
Jun 30 18:01:19 <oilsworkn> RagingMind: i think it depends if your update was OTA to 145 or from doc
Jun 30 18:01:27 <pcwiz84> don't think so, cuz in apps that would require that patch installed, it still told me that after 1.4.5.1 was installed. Sorry
Jun 30 18:01:52 <RagingMind> the 145 doc didn't have the bug
Jun 30 18:02:24 <RagingMind> but I'm sure there are still people that ota updated to 1.4.5 and never doctored after and never installed the fixer package
Jun 30 18:02:40 <oilsworkn> im sure
Jun 30 18:04:20 <PatrickC> sadly..
Jun 30 18:04:51 <pcwiz84> Maybe I should backup my pixi, and doctor my phone to 1.4.5.1 and see if it makes a difference for those apps like earworm beta.
Jun 30 18:05:29 <oilsworkn> pixi 1451?
Jun 30 18:05:33 <cryptk> pcwiz84, it has been a while, but IIRC, if PDK apps install and run, you don't have the fstab bug
Jun 30 18:05:41 <RagingMind> the fstab bug is easy to check for
Jun 30 18:05:42 <oilsworkn> i thought pixi was 145 forever?
Jun 30 18:05:43 <cryptk> oil, affirm
Jun 30 18:06:12 <cryptk> that and I am pretty sure the fstab fixer package is idempotent, so running it even if you don't have the bug doesn't hurt anything
Jun 30 18:14:23 <fudge_> any viruses out for webos yet
Jun 30 18:14:32 <rwhitby> just Preware
Jun 30 18:14:48 <cryptk> yep, Preware is a huge one.... infects tons of devices with pure awesome
Jun 30 18:15:15 * PatrickC downloaded that virus a while ago
Jun 30 18:15:26 <PatrickC> hmm.. I won't remove it.. :)
Jun 30 18:15:44 <cryptk> it has spread to all of my devices...
Jun 30 18:15:49 * oilsworkn is upgrading the virus to enyo xD
Jun 30 18:16:08 <cryptk> I tried to remove it once, but my phone got... so... booring...
Jun 30 18:16:23 <RagingMind> a pre without preware?  :(
Jun 30 18:16:24 <fudge_> nice
Jun 30 18:16:39 <oilsworkn> is no pre at all
Jun 30 18:16:44 <PatrickC> yeah
Jun 30 18:16:46 <fudge_> just a ware
Jun 30 18:16:56 <PatrickC> and wares are bad
Jun 30 18:17:04 <fudge_> should rename preware to prewarez
Jun 30 18:17:08 <fudge_> sounds more badass
Jun 30 18:17:24 <PatrickC> haha
Jun 30 18:17:24 <summatusmentis> it also insinuates wares
Jun 30 18:17:26 <summatusmentis> warez*
Jun 30 18:17:31 <summatusmentis> which preware does not do
Jun 30 18:17:35 <halfhalo> sounds like an 11 year old kid named it
Jun 30 18:17:36 <fudge_> ye
Jun 30 18:17:41 <oilsworkn> well
Jun 30 18:17:45 <oilsworkn> not by default xD
Jun 30 18:17:47 <rwhitby> more badass only if you're a scum sucking pirate
Jun 30 18:17:54 <summatusmentis> oilsworkn: he
Jun 30 18:17:56 <summatusmentis> heh*
Jun 30 18:18:00 <summatusmentis> guh, I cannot type today
Jun 30 18:18:03 <oilsworkn> those chinese feeds
Jun 30 18:18:08 * fudge_ cleans the scum off his face
Jun 30 18:18:11 <fudge_> lol if only i missed the s in scum
Jun 30 18:18:11 <fudge_> ;3
Jun 30 18:18:44 <halfhalo> there are kids in this channel! like PatrickC... and ... others!
Jun 30 18:19:44 <PatrickC> I didn't do anything..
Jun 30 18:20:10 <oilsworkn> exactly
Jun 30 18:20:14 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 30 18:22:58 <cryptk> is it odd that I heard screeching tires exactly when rwhitby became op?
Jun 30 18:23:18 <cryptk> well... within about 30 seconds
Jun 30 18:23:26 * PatrickC hears tons of screeching tires.. Covert Affairs!
Jun 30 18:24:00 * halfhalo heres screeching tires whenever he drives in his webos powered car.
Jun 30 18:24:07 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 30 18:24:25 <halfhalo> hears*
Jun 30 18:26:00 * halfhalo happens to be crazy driver
Jun 30 18:26:19 <cryptk> my truck is getting upgraded to enyo tomorrow
Jun 30 18:26:31 <cryptk> I can't wait to have the doors be sliding panes...
Jun 30 18:27:09 <oilsworkn> heh
Jun 30 18:42:39 <fudge_> is there a flashlight app in webos 2.1?
Jun 30 18:43:38 <PatrickC> for the LED?
Jun 30 18:43:44 <PatrickC> I have one that's out in the catalog
Jun 30 18:43:52 <PatrickC> Just a Flashlight Plus (no LED)
Jun 30 18:44:15 <RagingMind> fudge_, in preware there is called LED Torch
Jun 30 18:44:51 <fudge_> awesome
Jun 30 18:45:08 <fudge_> the whole reason why i downgraded back to 1.4.5 was because there was no LED torch :3
Jun 30 18:45:37 <Loudergood> I use a patch that adds it to the topbar dropdown with the radio controls
Jun 30 18:45:46 <PatrickC> yeah
Jun 30 18:45:48 <PatrickC> same here
Jun 30 18:45:52 <fudge_> yeah, thats how mine is set up in 1.4.5
Jun 30 18:46:07 <fudge_> data usues a heck lot of battery
Jun 30 18:47:33 <fudge_> anyone running 2.1 on a pre minus?
Jun 30 18:47:38 <summatusmentis> I am
Jun 30 18:48:18 <PatrickC> same here
Jun 30 18:48:51 <fudge_> does it run good
Jun 30 18:49:21 <summatusmentis> fudge_: runs pretty well, but my compcache is way up, and I'm running OCd to 1ghz
Jun 30 18:49:45 <fudge_> just 3 questions: how many apps can you have open before it lags? Is there any battery life improvements over 1.4.5? Are you able to cetch phone calls?
Jun 30 18:49:50 <RagingMind> fudge_, the LED Torch app works on my 2.1 pre
Jun 30 18:49:57 <fudge_> nice
Jun 30 18:50:07 <fudge_> im gonna install 2.1 in a bit, im compling the flash player
Jun 30 18:50:28 <fudge_> summatusmentis: isnt the higher the compcache, the less quick the phone can cetch phone calls?
Jun 30 18:50:45 <summatusmentis> fudge_: I've never had an issue
Jun 30 18:51:03 <fudge_> oh
Jun 30 18:51:09 <summatusmentis> but I suppose that's a possible side effect?
Jun 30 18:51:12 <fudge_> we will see how all goes
Jun 30 18:51:22 <fudge_> yea, i read it a while back on precentral
Jun 30 18:51:32 <fudge_> back when i had my other pre that i sold for a bb
Jun 30 18:51:41 <summatusmentis> I run at 48mb compcache, 1ghz screenstate OC
Jun 30 18:51:52 <fudge_> gets pretty hot, dosent it
Jun 30 18:52:04 <summatusmentis> not too bad, no
Jun 30 18:52:25 <summatusmentis> I mean, if I play angry birds for an extended period of time, maybe
Jun 30 18:52:32 * scoutcamper 's Pre2 stays nice and cool at 1ghz :D
Jun 30 18:52:35 <fudge_> nice
Jun 30 18:52:53 <fudge_> battery life must be horribad with the 1ghz OC tho
Jun 30 18:53:27 <fudge_> are you able to go a whole day with one charge, summatusmentis?
Jun 30 18:53:29 <RagingMind> you need to OC if you're gonna compcache.  without it a pre+/- just lags too much
Jun 30 18:53:35 <fudge_> oh
Jun 30 18:53:36 <fudge_> lol
Jun 30 18:53:55 <summatusmentis> fudge_: no, not a full day, I carry a second battery
Jun 30 18:54:02 <RagingMind> I missed calls, couldn't use touch tone menus... stuff like that until I disabled compcache
Jun 30 18:54:18 <fudge_> ^exactly what im talking about
Jun 30 18:54:22 <PatrickC> I OC to 1.1GHz
Jun 30 18:54:56 <summatusmentis> oh, I see, yeah, I definitely OC while I use compcache
Jun 30 18:55:25 <RagingMind> without compcache it can still be a pain to use some phone menu systems at times when my phone decides it's "busy" but is is a lot better
Jun 30 18:55:46 <RagingMind> and I just installed a couple extra patches... we'll see if they help more :)
Jun 30 18:57:20 <fudge_> which ones
Jun 30 18:58:29 <RagingMind> they decrease the level of logging that the system does, but the forums have a couple reports of odd behavior
Jun 30 19:00:26 <PatrickC> hrmm.. any reason the web browser on my pre2 would stop working?
Jun 30 19:00:44 <PatrickC> nothing that uses a webview works.. I even tried universe
Jun 30 19:18:49 <PatrickC> anyone on my previous question?
Jun 30 19:19:06 <PatrickC> I just rebooted twice and the browser still doesn't work
Jun 30 19:19:41 <scoutcamper> webos doctor
Jun 30 19:20:14 <PatrickC> that's a little harsh? isn't it?
Jun 30 19:20:55 <scoutcamper> meh
Jun 30 19:21:41 <PatrickC> would packaging/re-installing possibly work?
Jun 30 19:21:52 <scoutcamper> doctor is eaisier
Jun 30 19:22:29 <PatrickC> not for me, too much stuff on here..
Jun 30 19:23:39 <PatrickC> http://www.zumodrive.com/share/dpk0OGUwYz
Jun 30 19:25:46 <PatrickC> scoutcamper: any idea what might cause that?
Jun 30 19:27:14 <scoutcamper> no clue
Jun 30 19:27:19 <scoutcamper> never happened to me
Jun 30 19:27:27 <PatrickC> grr..
Jun 30 19:27:31 <PatrickC> thanks though
Jun 30 19:28:03 <PatrickC> not even Universe works
Jun 30 19:28:17 <halfhalo> doctor
Jun 30 19:28:33 <PatrickC> eh, too evasive...
Jun 30 19:28:44 <PatrickC> I want to avoid that as much as possible..
Jun 30 19:33:18 <PatrickC> looks like I might have to doctor...
Jun 30 19:39:11 <fudge_> so i finally flashed my phone to 2.1. now i cant sign into my profile
Jun 30 19:39:16 <fudge_> neither can i make a new one
Jun 30 19:39:25 <fudge_> what do i do at this point?
Jun 30 19:39:43 <PatrickC> EV connection?
Jun 30 19:40:02 <fudge_> yeah
Jun 30 19:40:03 <fudge_> got that
Jun 30 19:40:14 <PatrickC> backup wipe first?
Jun 30 19:40:35 <fudge_> turned off backup before flashing
Jun 30 19:40:44 <PatrickC> hrmm..
Jun 30 19:40:47 <PatrickC> not sure then
Jun 30 19:41:21 <fudge_> says
Jun 30 19:41:33 <fudge_> "We are unable to sign you in"
Jun 30 19:41:36 <PatrickC> what script did you use? what Os did you build it with?
Jun 30 19:42:01 <fudge_> used sprint script
Jun 30 19:42:12 <fudge_> ubuntu
Jun 30 19:42:19 <PatrickC> hrmm.. no idea.. sorry
Jun 30 19:42:36 <PatrickC> I just built one the other day and it worked perfectly
Jun 30 19:42:47 <fudge_> did you masq it?
Jun 30 19:43:14 <PatrickC> it auto masq's it
Jun 30 19:43:36 <PatrickC> the script does it all
Jun 30 19:43:47 <fudge_> oh
Jun 30 19:43:49 <fudge_> i wonder why
Jun 30 19:43:55 <PatrickC> why what?
Jun 30 19:44:13 <fudge_> did you apply any patches?
Jun 30 19:44:30 <PatrickC> patches as in the makefile?
Jun 30 19:44:54 <fudge_> yea
Jun 30 19:45:02 <fudge_> did you apply the remove carrier check
Jun 30 19:45:09 <PatrickC> nope
Jun 30 19:45:16 <PatrickC> no need to
Jun 30 19:45:22 <fudge_> i applied that
Jun 30 19:45:32 <PatrickC> that might have broke it..
Jun 30 19:45:40 <fudge_> hmm... lemme compile one without anything
Jun 30 19:46:12 <PatrickC> ok
Jun 30 19:46:39 * PatrickC backs up phone...
Jun 30 19:49:05 <fudge_> probably, im compiling another one right now
Jun 30 19:49:33 <PatrickC> I'm backing up my phone.. needs to visit the doctor
Jun 30 19:50:32 <fudge_> lol
Jun 30 19:50:41 <fudge_> i wonder why im not able to log into my profile
Jun 30 19:51:37 <PatrickC> idk
Jun 30 19:51:43 <PatrickC> my browser broke: http://www.zumodrive.com/share/dpk0OGUwYz
Jun 30 20:43:20 <shep1234> could somebody please /msg me the linphone download instructions thanks...
Jun 30 20:44:53 <summatusmentis> none of us have that access except rwhitby, and he's sleeping right now
Jun 30 20:48:41 <shep1234> ok thanks i'll try later
Jun 30 20:50:54 <fudge_> finally got it to login
Jun 30 22:22:28 <PuffTheMagic> You know you have a good job when your office break room as a dual tap kegerator
Jun 30 22:22:47 <zandi> i'm jealous
Jun 30 22:22:55 <zandi> we just have free water and coffee
Jun 30 22:25:35 <r2xj> whaaaat.  we need one of those here...
Jun 30 22:52:56 <Ted__> Hello.
Jun 30 22:53:30 <PatrickC> hello Ted__
Jun 30 22:53:42 <Lumiere> PuffTheMagic: or you have a full soda fountain with 8 different flavors for free in addition to coffee
Jun 30 22:53:51 <Ted__> I'm having a little bit of trouble with a meta doctor, could you, or anyone, be kind enough to lend a hand?
Jun 30 22:54:07 <PatrickC> did you read the *entire* wiki page?
Jun 30 22:55:27 <Ted__> Yes, but I'm trying to do something a little bit...odd. I've put a AT&T Coms Board in a Sprint Pre, and I'm using the command: "./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.-"
Jun 30 22:55:54 <PatrickC> that's to make a sprint pre2 if I'm not mistaken..
Jun 30 22:56:11 <Ted__> Rod told me that it would work, but upon using it, either the doctor doesn't recognize the Pre, or it tells me my pre is not compatable.
Jun 30 22:56:32 <Ted__> Rod told me that command would work in my case, (AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre)
Jun 30 22:56:57 <PatrickC> Ted__: talk to rwhitby I have no clue.. sorry :/
Jun 30 22:57:32 <Ted__> It's okay, thanks for just trying to help. :) It's very much apprciated.
Jun 30 22:57:54 <Ted__> I was actually hopeing he was poking around somewhere in this chat.
Jun 30 22:58:49 <r2xj> Ted__:  you usin a mac by chance?
Jun 30 22:58:55 <PuffTheMagic> Lumiere, no beer > soda
Jun 30 22:59:12 <Lumiere> PuffTheMagic: I agree, but soda > buying more
Jun 30 22:59:20 <Ted__> No, I'm using a PC, but I'm running Ubuntu.
Jun 30 22:59:34 <PatrickC> Ted__: he's sleeping iirc
Jun 30 23:00:08 <Ted__> Ah, okay, I'll try again later. I'm in no rush, this is just a side-project.
Jun 30 23:01:26 <r2xj> Ted__:  it was worth a shot, i metadoctored left and right with my stock pre, but as soon as I tried franken i got the same issue, had to reinstall the novacom drivers for some reason.   I also have a spint pre- with a GSM comms board sitting at my house, maybe ill try messin with it later and letting you know if i have any issues
Jun 30 23:01:56 <Ted__> Alright, that would be greatly appreciated mate!
Jun 30 23:02:22 <Ted__> I've read somewhere that if I take "test" out of the script, that it may run correctly, so I'll have to see.
Jun 30 23:02:36 <Ted__> Just out of curisity, the "radio" of the phone is indeed the coms board, yes?
Jun 30 23:02:50 <r2xj> yeah
Jun 30 23:03:15 <Ted__> Okay, because how I came across this Sprint Pre is because my buddy said it had a burnt radio, and wouldn't doctor.
Jun 30 23:03:38 <Ted__> But I figured the AT&T board would fix that problem, just wanted to make sure!
Jun 30 23:03:40 <Ted__> Thanks!
Jun 30 23:04:25 <r2xj> yeah, strange. my pre- with the gsm board boots fine (w/no service) but i havent tried redoctoring it yet
Jun 30 23:04:42 <r2xj> im heading home tho, so ill give it a shot and jump back on
Jun 30 23:04:49 <r2xj> later
Jul 01 00:48:12 <r2xj> !seen ted__
Jul 01 01:14:07 <damastah> is anyone here?
Jul 01 01:16:20 <Lumiere> no
Jul 01 01:16:29 * Lumiere plays the sounds of crickets chirping
Jul 01 01:37:35 <DieterBohn> Hello
Jul 01 01:37:42 <summatusmentis> hi
Jul 01 01:38:01 <summatusmentis> I didn't know you came in here
Jul 01 01:38:07 <bubby323> rwhitby i use make backup with the device plugged in?
Jul 01 01:38:10 <DieterBohn> Not often, it's too much info ;)
Jul 01 01:38:19 <summatusmentis> hah, fair enough :)
Jul 01 01:38:28 <DieterBohn> was hoping somebody could direct me to the right testing feed for full-screen wIRC for the touchpad
Jul 01 01:38:36 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: hi
Jul 01 01:38:42 <DieterBohn> Hi rwhitby
Jul 01 01:39:05 <DieterBohn> really nice job on full-screen preware
Jul 01 01:39:05 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.wirc_0.4.5_arm.ipk
Jul 01 01:39:30 <rwhitby> thx
Jul 01 01:39:57 <rwhitby> just setting up the 3.0.0 feeds now ...
Jul 01 01:40:07 <DieterBohn> rwhitby odd I don't see it listed, I should install manually then?
Jul 01 01:40:21 <rwhitby> you can install from that URL with Preware
Jul 01 01:41:15 * Lumiere is going to attempt to get a Touchpad tomorrow and try to take calls on it from his Pre- :)
Jul 01 01:41:26 <bubby323> Pre - works
Jul 01 01:41:35 <bubby323> It was confirmed on the PC forums
Jul 01 01:41:41 <Lumiere> I know
Jul 01 01:41:44 <chpwn> I wonder why it's limited to webOS devices, though: isn't the TouchPad just emulating a car headset?
Jul 01 01:41:47 <Lumiere> but I want to try it myself :)
Jul 01 01:42:27 <summatusmentis> I expect the reason it's limited to webos devices is purely competitive edge
Jul 01 01:42:46 <summatusmentis> wouldn't want iphone users to be able to do the same thing now would we? :-P
Jul 01 01:42:54 <Lumiere> actually
Jul 01 01:42:56 <summatusmentis> (conjecture, I have no idea)
Jul 01 01:42:57 <Lumiere> we WOULD :)
Jul 01 01:43:08 <Lumiere> because then iphone users could use webos
Jul 01 01:43:16 <Lumiere> and we can wean them from their shackles
Jul 01 01:43:17 <Lumiere> :)
Jul 01 01:43:26 <summatusmentis> heh
Jul 01 01:44:03 <DieterBohn> rhwitby success! Thanks a ton!
Jul 01 01:44:35 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: np, enjoy.  let us know of any missing back buttons.
Jul 01 01:44:49 <DieterBohn> will keep an eye out
Jul 01 01:44:55 <DieterBohn> I have to go brag to Josh now ;)
Jul 01 01:45:26 <chpwn> I like the Preware back buttons more than the wIRC ones myself.
Jul 01 01:45:36 <bubby323> rwhitby I tried make backup with no luck.
Jul 01 01:45:42 <bubby323> But I can run novaterm
Jul 01 01:46:19 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: you could teach him how to use Govnah to show the TouchPad CPU speed too ... ;)
Jul 01 01:46:27 <DieterBohn> =]
Jul 01 01:46:37 <DieterBohn> straight mojo version work or is there a special one rwhitby?
Jul 01 01:46:54 <rwhitby> let me check if I pushed it
Jul 01 01:47:18 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: 0.9.2 is a full-screen app
Jul 01 01:47:25 <DieterBohn> 0.8.3 is what I see in the feed
Jul 01 01:47:40 <rwhitby> you must not have the app testing feed enabled
Jul 01 01:47:59 <rwhitby> or you've only got one of the two URLs added for it
Jul 01 01:48:15 <rwhitby> http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.govnah_0.9.2_arm.ipk
Jul 01 01:48:58 <bubby323> ?
Jul 01 01:49:00 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: the graphs still need some work
Jul 01 01:49:05 <DieterBohn> ah app testing feed, couldn't find the url for that
Jul 01 01:49:15 <rwhitby> ~testing-feeds
Jul 01 01:49:16 <infobot> [testing-feeds] a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Jul 01 01:49:54 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: once oil gives the Govnah graphs some HD love, we'll push that to public feeds
Jul 01 01:49:59 <DieterBohn> rwhitby I installed ALL and armv7
Jul 01 01:50:20 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: did you give them unique feed names?
Jul 01 01:50:32 <DieterBohn> whoa 192MHz - is that accurate. It throttles down that low?
Jul 01 01:50:38 <rwhitby> yep
Jul 01 01:50:40 <DieterBohn> rwhitby I think so
Jul 01 01:50:48 <rwhitby> screen goes down to 30Hz too, and single processor.
Jul 01 01:50:56 <halfhalo> 192mhz.  on one core only.
Jul 01 01:51:05 <halfhalo> this thing rocks.
Jul 01 01:52:21 <DieterBohn> rwhitby I get a bootload of errors when I update feeds. did I screw something up then or is that normal?
Jul 01 01:52:39 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: if the errors all have 3.0.0 in them, retry in an hour
Jul 01 01:52:47 <DieterBohn> wilco.
Jul 01 01:52:57 <DieterBohn> kk thanks a TON for your help, will letcha get at what you want to get at
Jul 01 01:53:08 <DieterBohn> Ping me if you've got something you want me to see :)
Jul 01 01:53:27 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: actually, should work now
Jul 01 01:53:46 <rwhitby> give it another try, and screenshot any errors
Jul 01 01:53:54 <DieterBohn> rwhitby emailing now
Jul 01 01:54:15 <rwhitby> (and I mean "just now", not 5 minutes ago, cause it just pushed)
Jul 01 01:55:49 <bubby323> ..? rwhitby
Jul 01 01:56:11 <rwhitby> ~utsl
Jul 01 01:56:12 <infobot> methinks utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?).  Real Men don't write documentation; if it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.
Jul 01 01:56:24 <rwhitby> bubby323: the Makefile has all the code
Jul 01 01:56:29 <bubby323> I know
Jul 01 01:56:34 <DieterBohn> rhwitby emailed you error screen and list of feeds I have enabled
Jul 01 01:56:37 <bubby323> I ran make backup and nothing
Jul 01 01:56:38 <PatrickC> hey rwhitby  and DieterBohn
Jul 01 01:56:45 <DieterBohn> howdy patrickc
Jul 01 01:58:28 <rwhitby> bubby323: the backup target requires the device to be in memboot recovery installation mode. but you said you just wanted the tar commands, which are all there.
Jul 01 01:59:11 <rwhitby> DieterBohn: haven't seen it yet
Jul 01 01:59:12 <halfhalo> just because I can... I'm going to try to make a metadoctored doctor on a device.
Jul 01 01:59:29 <rwhitby> should work in your chroot fine
Jul 01 01:59:32 * PatrickC tried to make a meta-doctor on device
Jul 01 01:59:34 <PatrickC> didn't work
Jul 01 02:01:20 <rwhitby> PatrickC: that's cause you incorrectly expected it to work as-is on an OpenEmbedded rootfs, and didn't make any effort to debug why it didn't.
Jul 01 02:01:43 <rwhitby> that's like trying to cut your fingernails with a power saw.
Jul 01 02:01:58 <halfhalo> blindfolded.
Jul 01 02:02:35 <PatrickC> rwhitby: I mounted the folder outside of /media/internal where I would have proper access and it didn't work
Jul 01 02:02:49 <rwhitby> "it's a cutting device, let's see whether this works ..."
Jul 01 02:03:02 <chpwn> DieterBohn: I saw your name on the list for a webOS/TouchPad meetup tomorrow, do you know more about that? (what's going on, who's running it, etc)
Jul 01 02:03:12 <DieterBohn> chpwn nope
Jul 01 02:03:17 <PatrickC> brb
Jul 01 02:03:19 <chpwn> k
Jul 01 02:03:37 <PatrickC> rwhitby: I worked on it for like 3 hours with NuttyBunny
Jul 01 02:03:37 <chpwn> still not sure if i'm going to go :/
Jul 01 02:03:41 <rwhitby> PatrickC: you realise how ineffectual a statement like "it didn't work" is?
Jul 01 02:04:06 <PatrickC> I got to the file thing where you had to run the script, and it wouldn't run
Jul 01 02:04:16 <rwhitby> "the file thing"
Jul 01 02:04:23 <PatrickC> I forget the reason, but it even stumped NuttyBunny
Jul 01 02:04:34 <Ted__> Hey, Rod, it's Ted, we spoke a few weeks about about a GSM Coms board in a Sprint Pre. Do you have a moment?
Jul 01 02:04:35 <halfhalo> "the thingie with the things that do that thing"
Jul 01 02:04:45 <rwhitby> I didn't see a pastebin of what you did and what didn't work. As always, that should be the first thing you do when reporting a problem.
Jul 01 02:05:00 <rwhitby> Ted__: what's up
Jul 01 02:05:01 <PatrickC> I did, to him
Jul 01 02:05:05 <PatrickC> brb
Jul 01 02:05:43 <Ted__> Hi Rod, first off I want to apologize about not updating the Wiki yet -but I just got the Sprint Pre today (some family issues came up, and I just didn't get around to the project)
Jul 01 02:05:44 <rwhitby> PatrickC: but you just made a statement that it didn't work, in this development channel, without showing that log.
Jul 01 02:06:22 <PatrickC> when I was doing it, I gave him everything the log showed me
Jul 01 02:06:26 <PatrickC> I did not come here
Jul 01 02:06:36 <PatrickC> you told me I was on my own when I asked for help
Jul 01 02:06:52 <PatrickC> so I tried to solve the problem without coming back here
Jul 01 02:06:53 <rwhitby> PatrickC: correct.
Jul 01 02:07:15 <Ted__> But, anyway, I used the script you reccommended "./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0" and I'm having a hard time getting the doctor to work.
Jul 01 02:07:43 <rwhitby> Ted__: there is no such script in the latest version of MetaDoctor
Jul 01 02:07:56 <Ted__> Well that could be a problem, then!
Jul 01 02:08:03 <Ted__> I feel so stupid!
Jul 01 02:09:01 <Ted__> I guess that's what I get for waiting so long, yeah? Anyway, let me run the update script in Ubuntu to get cd meta-doctor up to date. What's the new script, mate?
Jul 01 02:09:42 <rwhitby> what's the hardware configuration you're flashing?
Jul 01 02:10:46 <Ted__> I'm putting an AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre
Jul 01 02:11:00 <rwhitby> have you changed any tokens?
Jul 01 02:11:07 <Ted__> Also, forgive me if I go offline, there's a massive storm in my location, going to turn on back up power real quick.
Jul 01 02:11:13 <rwhitby> if not, use meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0
Jul 01 02:11:24 <Ted__> No, you told me it was not nessessary (though reccomended).
Jul 01 02:11:31 <Ted__> Okay, thank you so much! I'll be right back!
Jul 01 02:11:59 <rwhitby> Ted__: make sure you capture the full log of download, running, and flashing
Jul 01 02:12:21 <rwhitby> when people post full logs, problems are usually solved in seconds
Jul 01 02:12:35 <rwhitby> when they don't, guessing about the problem takes days
Jul 01 02:12:53 <Ted__> Alright, I'm back!
Jul 01 02:13:01 <rwhitby> Ted__: make sure you capture the full log of download, running, and flashing
Jul 01 02:13:21 <Ted__> Now, what do you mean capture the full log? (I've fairly new to useing a terminal/linux)
Jul 01 02:14:01 <rwhitby> I want to see everything you see, from when you git clone the meta-doctor to when the script runs the doctor and shows the log of it's operation
Jul 01 02:14:11 <rwhitby> how you capture that is specific to your system
Jul 01 02:15:09 <Ted__> Well, I've never done this before, but I'm using Ubuntu. I just updated my software, and I'll run the new script, if it doesn't work, I'll work on getting the log. :D
Jul 01 02:16:25 <Ted__> Hm...is says "command not found" when I type it in.
Jul 01 02:16:42 <Ted__> I musn't have updated correctly -joys of being new to an OS.
Jul 01 02:17:54 <rwhitby> Ted__: are you following the wiki page?
Jul 01 02:18:21 <Ted__> I am now, since the normal "sudo apt-get update" command didn't work.
Jul 01 02:19:43 <Ted__> The doctor is building!
Jul 01 02:20:37 <Ted__> Rod, I'm also new to editing Wiki's, and have enrolled in several summer school classes, but I have the full intention on getting this information up asap.
Jul 01 02:47:01 <Ted__> Update: still building the doctor, the code flashing on the screen looks a lot more "legit" than it did with the first doctor I made.
Jul 01 02:48:27 <bubby323> Ted__ what doctor are you making?
Jul 01 02:48:33 * bubby323 curios
Jul 01 02:48:41 <bubby323> *curious
Jul 01 02:50:02 <Ted__> ./scripts/meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0
Jul 01 02:50:14 <Ted__> I've put a AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre
Jul 01 02:55:43 <Ted__> Why am I forgetting this -does the pre have to be off to doctor?
Jul 01 02:56:29 <bubby323> Yes
Jul 01 02:56:45 <Ted__> I'm so stupid...I haven't doctored in months, thanks!
Jul 01 02:56:48 <bubby323> Pull the battery and then usb cable in with power+volume up
Jul 01 02:58:53 <rwhitby> Ted__: See the Recovery page on the wiki
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